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On June 12 2024 15:32 Koshi wrote:
I suggest we sing kumbaja together during the night. There was too much arguing during the day.
Kum ba yah, my lord, Kum ba yah!
Kum ba yah, my lord, Kum ba yah!
Kum ba yah, my lord, Kum ba yah.
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Would you drop your reads as well before EoN Oats
Koshi also
And AlphaZero
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On June 13 2024 05:24 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2024 03:54 Koshi wrote:
No. If I am alive tomorrow I revisit everything.
I dont have a preffered lynch target.
I wont lynch Oats. Is this a pocketing attempt because it reads like one.
I don't see the need for them to pocket each other when they were #2 and #4 on Mafia yesterday. But...
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On June 13 2024 05:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
I don’t think I’ll reach lylo tbh big sad
I don't think we'll reach lylo 
Keep the positivity!
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On June 13 2024 06:41 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2024 06:13 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 13 2024 06:05 Trfel wrote:On June 13 2024 05:51 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 13 2024 04:21 Trfel wrote:I guess I should probably do something at some point, admittedly that was a nice break though. @Koshi, I thougth those three were mafia for the reasons I stated. It should be pretty clear reading my filter. If you disagree that's fine of course, but I made it quite clear why I thought what I thought. My instinct is that die_meatbaby is still mafia. Just like I had three reasons for sandroba being mafia, I have six reasons for die_meatbaby being mafia I'll try and read in more depth, but mafia bussing seems reasonable to me, not that it's guaranteed but it's absolutely a possibility (I'd even say it's quite likely but I suppose that's debatable). Not 100% slam dunk on die_meatbaby being mafia, and I will spend more time on this, but I think it's pretty likely. In all honesty, I'm not very inclined to think Mocsta is mafia, but I can re-evaluate this. My theory is that mafia was bussing, or at least willing to bus day 2. This is because surely the mafia team could tell that sandroba was very likely to die, especially if he knows that he has trouble playing as mafia. I don't think it makes a ton of sense for mafia!Mocsta to try and save mafia!sandroba like that when there is no realistic avenue for success. If sandroba was trying to defend himself I could mayyybeee see it, but I don't think it makes much sense for sandroba to give up and for Mocsta to defend him. Please don't misunderstand, I'm absolutely not saying that this means Mocsta is town for this, I'm saying that I don't think this is actually suspicious for Mocsta, and thus I am relying on my previous townread. if you want to lynch me tomorrow for beeing this much inactiv it´s okey for me (if I am alive). But your reads just doesn´t make any sense to me. Why should I make a case on sandroba before there was a lynchbus on him? Btw I am not sure if I can fake a case like the one I made and I still believe that sandroba and mocstar are togther. I am trying to figure out who the third person is and as I have already learend from the games before I should not stuck on the same people for days also when one of my mafia reads were correct. I also start to think if there is a possibility that you could be mafia This doesn't have anything to do with why I think you are mafia though. I think you are mafia because I have been doing everything I can to reach out to you, work with you, and understand you, and you've ignored me much more often than not. And I think you are mafia because you haven't been very involved or invested, and have been hiding behind constant excuses and promises of future activity. Furthermore, when people have raised valid concerns about your play, you have avoided answering, instead avoiding posting or distracting by talking about something else. I am sorry beeing so much inactiv, but also you should know that I was activ as mafia in my old mafia game. Now I am here ask me what ever you want. And tell me who do you think could also be mafia besides me? I still have my Mocstar/sandroba theory but the case that mocstar on az made looks interesting and I didn´t invest much interest in az or to make a good read on az, because I normaly compare old games or the way how the play as either aligment to the actual game. So it makes it more complicated for me to read AZ Well, it feels like always here. My superpower is probably being invisible. It doesn't matter if I post or not anyway. Most of the time it gets ignored until mafia needs it to make fake cases. I get barely answers. Trfl you wanna talk to me or not?
You aren't going to improve with this mindset.
Look at when I started out playing Mafia -
Town Vanilla Lynched
Town Vanilla Lynched
Town Vanilla Lynched
You get the picture.
But I worked on improving my game. I worked on trying to communicate with almost everybody. I added some other things as well, and I stopped getting mis-lynched way so often.
I've been mostly town read after D1 this game. There was pressure on me, and I just kept interacting. Was it frustrating? Sure. But I've learned to just keep trying and it usually works.
Always be learning and improving. Or else the opposite is true.
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On June 13 2024 07:02 AlphaZero wrote:
Scott do you stil think im mafia?
Yeah I do.
Since I know you'll ask why -
The main reason is you seem to be allergic to vote for other mafia.
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On June 13 2024 07:02 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2024 06:47 scott31337 wrote:On June 13 2024 06:41 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 13 2024 06:13 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 13 2024 06:05 Trfel wrote:On June 13 2024 05:51 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 13 2024 04:21 Trfel wrote:I guess I should probably do something at some point, admittedly that was a nice break though. @Koshi, I thougth those three were mafia for the reasons I stated. It should be pretty clear reading my filter. If you disagree that's fine of course, but I made it quite clear why I thought what I thought. My instinct is that die_meatbaby is still mafia. Just like I had three reasons for sandroba being mafia, I have six reasons for die_meatbaby being mafia I'll try and read in more depth, but mafia bussing seems reasonable to me, not that it's guaranteed but it's absolutely a possibility (I'd even say it's quite likely but I suppose that's debatable). Not 100% slam dunk on die_meatbaby being mafia, and I will spend more time on this, but I think it's pretty likely. In all honesty, I'm not very inclined to think Mocsta is mafia, but I can re-evaluate this. My theory is that mafia was bussing, or at least willing to bus day 2. This is because surely the mafia team could tell that sandroba was very likely to die, especially if he knows that he has trouble playing as mafia. I don't think it makes a ton of sense for mafia!Mocsta to try and save mafia!sandroba like that when there is no realistic avenue for success. If sandroba was trying to defend himself I could mayyybeee see it, but I don't think it makes much sense for sandroba to give up and for Mocsta to defend him. Please don't misunderstand, I'm absolutely not saying that this means Mocsta is town for this, I'm saying that I don't think this is actually suspicious for Mocsta, and thus I am relying on my previous townread. if you want to lynch me tomorrow for beeing this much inactiv it´s okey for me (if I am alive). But your reads just doesn´t make any sense to me. Why should I make a case on sandroba before there was a lynchbus on him? Btw I am not sure if I can fake a case like the one I made and I still believe that sandroba and mocstar are togther. I am trying to figure out who the third person is and as I have already learend from the games before I should not stuck on the same people for days also when one of my mafia reads were correct. I also start to think if there is a possibility that you could be mafia This doesn't have anything to do with why I think you are mafia though. I think you are mafia because I have been doing everything I can to reach out to you, work with you, and understand you, and you've ignored me much more often than not. And I think you are mafia because you haven't been very involved or invested, and have been hiding behind constant excuses and promises of future activity. Furthermore, when people have raised valid concerns about your play, you have avoided answering, instead avoiding posting or distracting by talking about something else. I am sorry beeing so much inactiv, but also you should know that I was activ as mafia in my old mafia game. Now I am here ask me what ever you want. And tell me who do you think could also be mafia besides me? I still have my Mocstar/sandroba theory but the case that mocstar on az made looks interesting and I didn´t invest much interest in az or to make a good read on az, because I normaly compare old games or the way how the play as either aligment to the actual game. So it makes it more complicated for me to read AZ Well, it feels like always here. My superpower is probably being invisible. It doesn't matter if I post or not anyway. Most of the time it gets ignored until mafia needs it to make fake cases. I get barely answers. Trfl you wanna talk to me or not? You aren't going to improve with this mindset. Look at when I started out playing Mafia - Town Vanilla Lynched Town Vanilla Lynched Town Vanilla Lynched You get the picture. But I worked on improving my game. I worked on trying to communicate with almost everybody. I added some other things as well, and I stopped getting mis-lynched way so often. I've been mostly town read after D1 this game. There was pressure on me, and I just kept interacting. Was it frustrating? Sure. But I've learned to just keep trying and it usually works. Always be learning and improving. Or else the opposite is true. I still think you are town. What are you current scum thoughts?
It'll be in my EoN post before dayflip.
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On June 13 2024 08:38 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2024 07:55 Vivax wrote:On June 13 2024 07:14 scott31337 wrote:On June 13 2024 07:02 AlphaZero wrote:
Scott do you stil think im mafia? Yeah I do. Since I know you'll ask why - The main reason is you seem to be allergic to vote for other mafia. I just realized you presume that you are 100% correct on dmb being town Good pickup, i posted the same thing to rayn in our discord.
I'll cover this too, but it's extremely unlikely how the wagon went down DMB is mafia especially with how you and Vivax voted.
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On June 13 2024 09:14 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2024 09:01 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 13 2024 08:58 die_meatbaby wrote:
Someone here who wants to talk actually about the game? Reads Koshi town Scott town Rayn kinda townisch Trfl maybe town You maybe town Vivax behaving strange scummy and townisch but more scummy in my eyes Az scummy M scummy Slam too less posts to make a read on him
This is just too many scum reads with only two left. I appreciate you sharing though. Would you please broaden or be a bit more specific, especially if you are town?
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On June 13 2024 09:47 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2024 09:40 scott31337 wrote:On June 13 2024 09:14 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 13 2024 09:01 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 13 2024 08:58 die_meatbaby wrote:
Someone here who wants to talk actually about the game? Reads Koshi town Scott town Rayn kinda townisch Trfl maybe town You maybe town Vivax behaving strange scummy and townisch but more scummy in my eyes Az scummy M scummy Slam too less posts to make a read on him This is just too many scum reads with only two left. I appreciate you sharing though. Would you please broaden or be a bit more specific, especially if you are town? I know that I have to many scum reads but I can not change how my head is working. I am still to paranoid to trust more people here to be town. I feel like everbody is kinda scummy in this game. also I have to tell that I think it´s either az or mocstar and not both and oats and az also not togther. kinder stucking here in shit situation were I try to figure out witch team would make more sense. How is avoiding who and whats to insane for mafia to do.
What about an AZ/Vivax team?
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On June 13 2024 10:03 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2024 09:56 Mocsta wrote:On June 13 2024 09:53 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 13 2024 09:49 scott31337 wrote:On June 13 2024 09:47 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 13 2024 09:40 scott31337 wrote:On June 13 2024 09:14 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 13 2024 09:01 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 13 2024 08:58 die_meatbaby wrote:
Someone here who wants to talk actually about the game? Reads Koshi town Scott town Rayn kinda townisch Trfl maybe town You maybe town Vivax behaving strange scummy and townisch but more scummy in my eyes Az scummy M scummy Slam too less posts to make a read on him This is just too many scum reads with only two left. I appreciate you sharing though. Would you please broaden or be a bit more specific, especially if you are town? I know that I have to many scum reads but I can not change how my head is working. I am still to paranoid to trust more people here to be town. I feel like everbody is kinda scummy in this game. also I have to tell that I think it´s either az or mocstar and not both and oats and az also not togther. kinder stucking here in shit situation were I try to figure out witch team would make more sense. How is avoiding who and whats to insane for mafia to do. What about an AZ/Vivax team? that would be balls of zeus if thats fucking it On June 12 2024 08:57 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Two Vote Count
sandroba (7); raynpelikoneet, Koshi, Scott31337, Oatsmaster, die_meatbaby, trfel, Alakaslam
die_meatbaby (3): Trfel, sandroba, AlphaZero, Vivax, AlphaZero, sandroba
raynpelikoneet(1): Mocsta, Trfel, AlphaZero, sandroba
Vivax (0): Trfel, AlphaZero, Scott31337, Koshi, Mocsta, Alakaslam, die_meatbaby
Koshi (0): Vivax, sandroba
scott31337 (0): Vivax
With 7 votes, sandroba is currently set to be lynched!
The deadline is Wednesday, Jun 12 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in
thats pretty close to where i have settled its basically (az + 1 of vivax/slam). more likely vivax koshi shot tongiht most likely  I don‘t think dmb is cleared. It‘s kinda wifomy but mafia bus at least 1 partner and if you rule out rayn + Koshi then you‘re left with her. AZ I think I might just townread after all but I got time to read more, something I need to do.
I could rayn pulling off that phat bus, but that's D4+ time
I'm ruling out Koshi.
You go ahead with that AZ town read.
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On June 13 2024 10:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
Nah there’s no shot it’s az and vivax
I'll respect this.
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On June 13 2024 10:13 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2024 10:07 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 13 2024 10:02 Mocsta wrote:On June 13 2024 09:58 die_meatbaby wrote:
But it would just be so smart. We are all looking at least for one mafia at sandroba voting. Because its safer for mafia to vote on there and then they voting on me or rayn. That would be to insane. But DP was so insane in his last mafia game that now everything is possible dp might make everything possible; but not everyone else is DP i had to check out that game to see what the fuss was. obvioulsy didnt read it. but far out 80+ pages. thats jsut. wow. Mafia dp had extra shoot he claimed it as town and said seconds before the night kill that he shoots the afk mafia and shooted on his actual fucking mafia buddy and won the game because of this. cool move indeed in this game. yeah its a possiblity reliant on 1. mafia having vig 2. mafia not shooting n1 3. mafia did shoot n1 and hit a vest role that isnt notified maybe a few others that go even more esoteric its not what you are saying is impossible, its that its improbable. we will know more in 50min i guess whether theres 1 or 2 kills. im banking on 1.
Yeah that's super conspiracy theory world for this game. Save them for D4 and beyond.
Who's AZ's mafia teammate?
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On June 13 2024 10:17 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2024 10:16 scott31337 wrote:On June 13 2024 10:13 Mocsta wrote:On June 13 2024 10:07 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 13 2024 10:02 Mocsta wrote:On June 13 2024 09:58 die_meatbaby wrote:
But it would just be so smart. We are all looking at least for one mafia at sandroba voting. Because its safer for mafia to vote on there and then they voting on me or rayn. That would be to insane. But DP was so insane in his last mafia game that now everything is possible dp might make everything possible; but not everyone else is DP i had to check out that game to see what the fuss was. obvioulsy didnt read it. but far out 80+ pages. thats jsut. wow. Mafia dp had extra shoot he claimed it as town and said seconds before the night kill that he shoots the afk mafia and shooted on his actual fucking mafia buddy and won the game because of this. cool move indeed in this game. yeah its a possiblity reliant on 1. mafia having vig 2. mafia not shooting n1 3. mafia did shoot n1 and hit a vest role that isnt notified maybe a few others that go even more esoteric its not what you are saying is impossible, its that its improbable. we will know more in 50min i guess whether theres 1 or 2 kills. im banking on 1. Yeah that's super conspiracy theory world for this game. Save them for D4 and beyond. Who's AZ's mafia teammate? are you asking me? umm. im gonna be a dick. i have posted barely anything this cycle and would prefer if you read what i produced than me give a blanket list i think its on p171 the team im sitting on is clear if thats too much. i literally posted my team combo i think on this page as well
I've read your filter like twice this "night". I just did again - still not seeing it.
I mean a half an hour ago you posted
" thats pretty close to where i have settled its basically (az + 1 of vivax/slam). more likely vivax"
So just verifying.
Are you warming to rayn?
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On June 13 2024 10:31 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2024 10:31 Vivax wrote:On June 13 2024 10:28 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 13 2024 10:23 Vivax wrote:On June 13 2024 10:21 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 13 2024 10:03 Vivax wrote:On June 13 2024 09:56 Mocsta wrote:On June 13 2024 09:53 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 13 2024 09:49 scott31337 wrote:On June 13 2024 09:47 die_meatbaby wrote:
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I know that I have to many scum reads but I can not change how my head is working. I am still to paranoid to trust more people here to be town. I feel like everbody is kinda scummy in this game.
also I have to tell that I think it´s either az or mocstar and not both and oats and az also not togther. kinder stucking here in shit situation were I try to figure out witch team would make more sense. How is avoiding who and whats to insane for mafia to do. What about an AZ/Vivax team? that would be balls of zeus if thats fucking it On June 12 2024 08:57 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Two Vote Count
sandroba (7); raynpelikoneet, Koshi, Scott31337, Oatsmaster, die_meatbaby, trfel, Alakaslam
die_meatbaby (3): Trfel, sandroba, AlphaZero, Vivax, AlphaZero, sandroba
raynpelikoneet(1): Mocsta, Trfel, AlphaZero, sandroba
Vivax (0): Trfel, AlphaZero, Scott31337, Koshi, Mocsta, Alakaslam, die_meatbaby
Koshi (0): Vivax, sandroba
scott31337 (0): Vivax
With 7 votes, sandroba is currently set to be lynched!
The deadline is Wednesday, Jun 12 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in
thats pretty close to where i have settled its basically (az + 1 of vivax/slam). more likely vivax koshi shot tongiht most likely I don‘t think dmb is cleared. It‘s kinda wifomy but mafia bus at least 1 partner and if you rule out rayn + Koshi then you‘re left with her. AZ I think I might just townread after all but I got time to read more, something I need to do. why am I mafia in your eyes? Many reasons that require reading. If you don‘t want to read you can always be loud and opinionated but don‘t spam questions with answers itt so you don't want to talk to me and you don't want to explain to me why exactly you think i'm mafia. Very good. Your filter is full of disturbing posts about Austria and the people who live here, but I can't find what I actually want to know. at least tell me the reasons. I find the people here disturbing so my posts are disturbed. Like what do I need to talk with you about ? Do you need me to convince you that you are mafia ? She is probably not mafia though. Its scott and mocsta.
Is this your plan or your teammates?
It ain't gonna work.
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On June 13 2024 10:33 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2024 10:32 scott31337 wrote:On June 13 2024 10:31 AlphaZero wrote:On June 13 2024 10:31 Vivax wrote:On June 13 2024 10:28 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 13 2024 10:23 Vivax wrote:On June 13 2024 10:21 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 13 2024 10:03 Vivax wrote:On June 13 2024 09:56 Mocsta wrote:On June 13 2024 09:53 die_meatbaby wrote:
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that would be balls of zeus if thats fucking it
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thats pretty close to where i have settled its basically (az + 1 of vivax/slam). more likely vivax koshi shot tongiht most likely I don‘t think dmb is cleared. It‘s kinda wifomy but mafia bus at least 1 partner and if you rule out rayn + Koshi then you‘re left with her. AZ I think I might just townread after all but I got time to read more, something I need to do. why am I mafia in your eyes? Many reasons that require reading. If you don‘t want to read you can always be loud and opinionated but don‘t spam questions with answers itt so you don't want to talk to me and you don't want to explain to me why exactly you think i'm mafia. Very good. Your filter is full of disturbing posts about Austria and the people who live here, but I can't find what I actually want to know. at least tell me the reasons. I find the people here disturbing so my posts are disturbed. Like what do I need to talk with you about ? Do you need me to convince you that you are mafia ? She is probably not mafia though. Its scott and mocsta. Is this your plan or your teammates? It ain't gonna work. some classic scum bluster hey?
You got me.
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On June 13 2024 10:36 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2024 10:35 scott31337 wrote:On June 13 2024 10:33 AlphaZero wrote:On June 13 2024 10:32 scott31337 wrote:On June 13 2024 10:31 AlphaZero wrote:On June 13 2024 10:31 Vivax wrote:On June 13 2024 10:28 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 13 2024 10:23 Vivax wrote:On June 13 2024 10:21 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 13 2024 10:03 Vivax wrote:
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I don‘t think dmb is cleared. It‘s kinda wifomy but mafia bus at least 1 partner and if you rule out rayn + Koshi then you‘re left with her.
AZ I think I might just townread after all but I got time to read more, something I need to do. why am I mafia in your eyes? Many reasons that require reading. If you don‘t want to read you can always be loud and opinionated but don‘t spam questions with answers itt so you don't want to talk to me and you don't want to explain to me why exactly you think i'm mafia. Very good. Your filter is full of disturbing posts about Austria and the people who live here, but I can't find what I actually want to know. at least tell me the reasons. I find the people here disturbing so my posts are disturbed. Like what do I need to talk with you about ? Do you need me to convince you that you are mafia ? She is probably not mafia though. Its scott and mocsta. Is this your plan or your teammates? It ain't gonna work. some classic scum bluster hey? You got me. I think i really do. I think I did day one, much to the relief of my ego.
Are you going to respond to Mocsta's case?
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On June 13 2024 10:39 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2024 10:36 AlphaZero wrote:On June 13 2024 10:36 Vivax wrote:On June 13 2024 10:31 AlphaZero wrote:On June 13 2024 10:31 Vivax wrote:On June 13 2024 10:28 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 13 2024 10:23 Vivax wrote:On June 13 2024 10:21 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 13 2024 10:03 Vivax wrote:On June 13 2024 09:56 Mocsta wrote:[quote]thats pretty close to where i have settled its basically (az + 1 of vivax/slam). more likely vivax koshi shot tongiht most likely I don‘t think dmb is cleared. It‘s kinda wifomy but mafia bus at least 1 partner and if you rule out rayn + Koshi then you‘re left with her. AZ I think I might just townread after all but I got time to read more, something I need to do. why am I mafia in your eyes? Many reasons that require reading. If you don‘t want to read you can always be loud and opinionated but don‘t spam questions with answers itt so you don't want to talk to me and you don't want to explain to me why exactly you think i'm mafia. Very good. Your filter is full of disturbing posts about Austria and the people who live here, but I can't find what I actually want to know. at least tell me the reasons. I find the people here disturbing so my posts are disturbed. Like what do I need to talk with you about ? Do you need me to convince you that you are mafia ? She is probably not mafia though. Its scott and mocsta. Almost but not quite.  Who then? I really think you and dmb Sandro got me really hooked on rayn Koshi though, that was impressive. It’s fun to have them as scum regardless
So you down for lynching AZ tomorrow?
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On June 13 2024 10:45 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2024 10:41 AlphaZero wrote:
Do you think someone who is capable of posting 20 pages in 2 phases as mafia doesn't know how to bus their inactive teammate?
anyone calling me mafia needs to reconcile this fact btw.
If you mean yourself, you were so wishy washy on Sandroba who knows
Plus you didn't anyway.
I know how to do XYZ it doesn't mean I do it.
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On June 13 2024 10:54 AlphaZero wrote:
Also ask yourself why scott scum reads me for not voting for mafia, but town reads mocsta who also didn;t vote for sandro.
I townread Mocsta because he's attempting to solve the game
He was tunneled on Rayn
Unlike your massive filter of waffling on Sandroba and lynch Scott
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