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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 10 2024 08:59 GMT
#147
On May 10 2024 17:58 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2024 17:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So you DO think scott is scummy or not?
Not sure. I don't see anything suspicious besides that one post.

Why do you think I should have a read on you? This surprises me, if anything I would have expected me to not have a read on you?
Edit for wording, I would have expected you to not expect me to have a read on you. If that makes sense
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 10 2024 09:12 GMT
#149
On May 10 2024 18:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I rhink youre the one person who can properly read me, also backed up with your own wordsfrom last 2 games.
That isn't what I said, I managed to read you once or twice but it's far from a guarantee and it's definitely not easy to do. I have one or two theories about how to read you but I'm not completely sure about them yet. Even if they are valid it's going to take time, you're really good at matching your town play as mafia and that makes it very difficult to tell.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 10 2024 09:22 GMT
#152
On May 10 2024 18:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I also think you havent done the Trfel thing and it saddens me because i sont want to tunnel you EVEN if youre mafia..
To be fair I haven't done much of anything
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 10 2024 17:16 GMT
#176
On May 10 2024 17:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
First post this page.
I think Oats is calling you out on backpedalling on your read on scott.
Huh, no wonder I didn't see this. My computer isn't showing the image, I only saw it when I went to bed and switched to my phone. Weird.

Don't have a ton of thoughts to be honest. I don't have a very good understanding of Day 1 unfortunately. Not sure what to make of scott31337's omgus, my first thought was that it looks bad but my second thought is that maybe it's more likely to come from town?

Maybe most inclined to lynch Grackaroni at this point, I think he's very capable of more. Also I have next to no idea what Oatsmaster thinks about anything, which normally would make me want to lynch him, but last game he was very clear about his thoughts on people and he was mafia. And I have vague memories of him always being on the sidelines and interjecting but not being helpful as town. So meh.

Scott31337, Grackaroni, and Oatsmaster are probably the people I'm most interested in right now? I'm probably going to have a really hard time reading these people though. Bleh.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 10 2024 21:03 GMT
#193
On May 11 2024 05:56 scott31337 wrote:
##Vote: Oatsmaster
Where did this come from?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 10 2024 21:13 GMT
#195
On May 11 2024 06:08 scott31337 wrote:
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On May 11 2024 06:03 Trfel wrote:
On May 11 2024 05:56 scott31337 wrote:
##Vote: Oatsmaster
Where did this come from?


It came from my understanding of him basically shitting up the thread and providing no insight.
I guess I'm just surprised since Oatsmaster wasn't included in your picture with reads earlier? Did Oatsmaster do something notable since then, or did something cause you to come to this realization? Or what? Just trying to understand.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 10 2024 21:29 GMT
#197
On May 11 2024 06:21 scott31337 wrote:
Oats had posted very little when I did my "reads" post.

Show nested quote +
On May 11 2024 03:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
On May 11 2024 02:04 scott31337 wrote:
On May 11 2024 01:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
On May 11 2024 00:34 scott31337 wrote:
This is usually the time when I wake up - just a heads up. I'm west coast US worker timewise on the east coast.

On May 10 2024 17:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think post #112 is very smart, unless exactly Jealous and scott are mafia, which again i dont think is the case in the first place.


It does show he wanted to clarify his Paint date positioning. I should thank him for that.

On May 10 2024 18:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Plammer the sanke can go to mafia list for now.


I know Palmmer is travelling the 16th to the 20th from earlier - but that's not now.

On May 10 2024 19:10 Palmar wrote:
You misread me because you have a different thinking process to mine, and you refuse to acknowledge that.

Trfel is town because pretty much every post I read that he made I found myself thinking "yeah that's reasonable".

Although I actually made a mistake.

I had mentally made a note that Trfel made the post that Jealous' pictures were made pre-game, but it was in fact scott that did it. I liked that post.


Do you mean my post? Which is "that" post? Do you believe Jealous's paints of dates and trying to rebuke? Although what I said is true, quite a few of them were premade, the town one if the date in the SS is accurate (Which I tend to believe it is) and the others were created afterwards.

YOU CAN PASTE IMAGES INTO PAINT AND THEN SAVE THEM TO GET A NEW CREATED DATE


That is true - but do I really think he did that?

Do you?

Yes


Now I get this is a one line answer - but makes me think he's the opposite alignment of Chez. Makes me think he's the opposite alignment as myself (Town). Now, I have no idea about Chez yet from my point of view - But I personally do not think Chez resaved his paint files - especially before I questioned Chez - and then posted the screenshot. It's a lot of work to change the time of the PC and resave those just to respond to my intriguing.

It's not a set in stone vote either. But my best choice at this time and we're through 1/2 a day already.

The rest of Oats posts are useless as well.

Hm, looks like Oatsmaster had nine posts before your picture in question and eight after. Do you stand by your first sentence?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 10 2024 21:32 GMT
#199
How are you doing, Chezinu?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 10 2024 21:42 GMT
#201
The sentence I was referring to was when you said "Oatsmaster had posted very little when I did my reads post." I don't think that's true, since more than half of his posts were made before this time.

I have no disagreement about the quality or substance of Oatsmaster's posting. I'm just questioning this part of your explanation, since it doesn't seem to add up.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 10 2024 21:46 GMT
#203
On May 11 2024 06:43 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2024 06:32 Trfel wrote:
How are you doing, Chezinu?

[image loading]
I see you have returned to the house of brown.

Will you help me identify those in the house of red?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 10 2024 22:06 GMT
#209
On May 11 2024 06:59 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2024 06:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
On May 11 2024 06:21 scott31337 wrote:
Oats had posted very little when I did my "reads" post.

On May 11 2024 03:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
On May 11 2024 02:04 scott31337 wrote:
On May 11 2024 01:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
On May 11 2024 00:34 scott31337 wrote:
This is usually the time when I wake up - just a heads up. I'm west coast US worker timewise on the east coast.

On May 10 2024 17:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think post #112 is very smart, unless exactly Jealous and scott are mafia, which again i dont think is the case in the first place.


It does show he wanted to clarify his Paint date positioning. I should thank him for that.

On May 10 2024 18:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Plammer the sanke can go to mafia list for now.


I know Palmmer is travelling the 16th to the 20th from earlier - but that's not now.

On May 10 2024 19:10 Palmar wrote:
You misread me because you have a different thinking process to mine, and you refuse to acknowledge that.

Trfel is town because pretty much every post I read that he made I found myself thinking "yeah that's reasonable".

Although I actually made a mistake.

I had mentally made a note that Trfel made the post that Jealous' pictures were made pre-game, but it was in fact scott that did it. I liked that post.


Do you mean my post? Which is "that" post? Do you believe Jealous's paints of dates and trying to rebuke? Although what I said is true, quite a few of them were premade, the town one if the date in the SS is accurate (Which I tend to believe it is) and the others were created afterwards.

YOU CAN PASTE IMAGES INTO PAINT AND THEN SAVE THEM TO GET A NEW CREATED DATE


That is true - but do I really think he did that?

Do you?

Yes


Now I get this is a one line answer - but makes me think he's the opposite alignment of Chez. Makes me think he's the opposite alignment as myself (Town). Now, I have no idea about Chez yet from my point of view - But I personally do not think Chez resaved his paint files - especially before I questioned Chez - and then posted the screenshot. It's a lot of work to change the time of the PC and resave those just to respond to my intriguing.

It's not a set in stone vote either. But my best choice at this time and we're through 1/2 a day already.

The rest of Oats posts are useless as well.


This line of reasoning also doesn’t make sense, I disagree with Scott about jealous so im scum? I don’t like how he specifically points out that he’s “town” either



Just giving from my point of view.

I post too much I get shit - I don't post enough I get shit. Now I remember why I took a break from this game.
I didn't mean to attack you, I'm just trying to understand your thought process better. If I can better understand how you think, it's easier for me to figure out your alignment is all. It's not meant to be aggressive or critical.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 10 2024 22:40 GMT
#216
On May 11 2024 07:06 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2024 06:59 scott31337 wrote:
On May 11 2024 06:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
On May 11 2024 06:21 scott31337 wrote:
Oats had posted very little when I did my "reads" post.

On May 11 2024 03:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
On May 11 2024 02:04 scott31337 wrote:
On May 11 2024 01:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
On May 11 2024 00:34 scott31337 wrote:
This is usually the time when I wake up - just a heads up. I'm west coast US worker timewise on the east coast.

On May 10 2024 17:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think post #112 is very smart, unless exactly Jealous and scott are mafia, which again i dont think is the case in the first place.


It does show he wanted to clarify his Paint date positioning. I should thank him for that.

On May 10 2024 18:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Plammer the sanke can go to mafia list for now.


I know Palmmer is travelling the 16th to the 20th from earlier - but that's not now.

On May 10 2024 19:10 Palmar wrote:
You misread me because you have a different thinking process to mine, and you refuse to acknowledge that.

Trfel is town because pretty much every post I read that he made I found myself thinking "yeah that's reasonable".

Although I actually made a mistake.

I had mentally made a note that Trfel made the post that Jealous' pictures were made pre-game, but it was in fact scott that did it. I liked that post.


Do you mean my post? Which is "that" post? Do you believe Jealous's paints of dates and trying to rebuke? Although what I said is true, quite a few of them were premade, the town one if the date in the SS is accurate (Which I tend to believe it is) and the others were created afterwards.

YOU CAN PASTE IMAGES INTO PAINT AND THEN SAVE THEM TO GET A NEW CREATED DATE


That is true - but do I really think he did that?

Do you?

Yes


Now I get this is a one line answer - but makes me think he's the opposite alignment of Chez. Makes me think he's the opposite alignment as myself (Town). Now, I have no idea about Chez yet from my point of view - But I personally do not think Chez resaved his paint files - especially before I questioned Chez - and then posted the screenshot. It's a lot of work to change the time of the PC and resave those just to respond to my intriguing.

It's not a set in stone vote either. But my best choice at this time and we're through 1/2 a day already.

The rest of Oats posts are useless as well.


This line of reasoning also doesn’t make sense, I disagree with Scott about jealous so im scum? I don’t like how he specifically points out that he’s “town” either



Just giving from my point of view.

I post too much I get shit - I don't post enough I get shit. Now I remember why I took a break from this game.
I didn't mean to attack you, I'm just trying to understand your thought process better. If I can better understand how you think, it's easier for me to figure out your alignment is all. It's not meant to be aggressive or critical.
@Scott31337, if I may, how can I better understand your thought process/alignment without coming across as attacking? I don't want to make things no fun, but at the same time I do want to play the game, if that makes sense.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 11 2024 01:13 GMT
#231
Idk, looks like a pre-made post to me.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 11 2024 01:41 GMT
#236
Anyone have any interest in figuring out who we are lynching today?

I'm still leaning towards scott31337, Grackaroni, and Oatsmaster (no particular order). But I"m not very happy with any of the options. I think scott31337 would be by far the most useful to keep around, in that I think more time would be very helpful in reading him better (for me, anyway), so I think it's time to vote for Grackaroni and see what happens.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 11 2024 03:13 GMT
#252
I am very confused by everything that is happening....
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 11 2024 04:00 GMT
#267
Is there any reason why you should be saved?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 11 2024 04:17 GMT
#274
On May 11 2024 13:07 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2024 13:00 Trfel wrote:
Is there any reason why you should be saved?

Very unlikely to hit mafia.

I'm actually extremely transparent, but people are unable to read me.

I make the posts that I like as town knowing that it drastically increases my likelihood of being lynched while as mafia I have to answer to someone serious like Rayn/you, so then I don't make posts that will put me as the first lynch.
Do you have any better suggestions then?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 11 2024 08:01 GMT
#292
Huh, you know, I kinda don't want to lynch Grackaroni.I'm easily convinced I suppose.

I'm not sure lynching raynpelikoneet is the move, I like the boldness though. I will have to think about that.

I don't think a scott31337 lynch will happen, whether I want it to or not (and I still don't know if I want it to), but I will delay figuring out scott31337's alignment since it isn't as immediately helpful.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 11 2024 08:23 GMT
#293
I have absolutely no idea what Vivax has been doing the past few pages. If anyone is a Vivax whisperer feel free to enlighten me.

Really not a fan of Oatsmaster here, my only reservation is that I have a vague memory of him being snipey and sideliney as town. But it really really really feels like he is just posting for the sake of posting, usually his sideline comments are at least somewhat pointed or relevant, here it seems like half his posts are talking about Paint picture timestamps, where even if he is right in his arguments, it doesn't mean much at all. Even for someone who just criticizes from the sidelines, this is particularly useless, and it could just mean he is mafia.

I don't know what to think of Jealous other than hoping he is town due to good MS Paint skills. Same with Chezinu, honestly. I'm extremely hesitant to lynch Jealous today, and pretty hesitant to lynch Chezinu too.

A little disappointed by Palmar's day 1 so far due to his standard of quality day 1's, but it's a Paint game and iirc he said he would be busy so it's understandable. I was just hoping for a Palmar carry since I am so awful at day 1. I don't really have a reason to lynch him.

Dunno about raynpelikoneet. He hasn't done enough yet for any of my theoretical metrics to be useful. I'm surprised at how different our game views are, but I don't know if that means anything.

Not lynching Vivax today, I have a few reasons to think he is town and no reasons to think he isn't. As I said before, I kinda like Grackaroni's thinking, at least enough for now. So I guess Oatsmaster is what's left?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 11 2024 08:34 GMT
#294
Oh and apparently it wasn't Palmar that said he was busy, it was raynpelikoneet.

Don't really think this means anything for raynpelikoneet, I don't really have a reason to lynch him anyway. A little disappointing for Palmar though, since he could have done something before the weekend then, but it doesn't make him mafia so whatever.
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