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On March 06 2024 07:18 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 07:15 Koshi wrote:On March 06 2024 07:13 DarthPunk wrote:On March 06 2024 07:08 Koshi wrote:
For the people thinking this was a good post by Palmar.
why marv should not be called mafia:
1) marv has a 7 page filter and is actually playing. That alone is enough to not call him mafia D1.
2) Palmar admits the first vote is legit on him. So that means marv came out of hiding to post a legit vote that would and could mean he had to play hard for the rest of the game if town!Palmar brought his A game. It is less likely Mafia!marv would do that because he cba. Town!marv would come out because he thinks it is the best thing to do for town. So this also leans towards a town!marv. This alone would be a good reason not to vote marv D1.
3) marv being wrong on Palmar means fuck all for his alignment. Last game, with Palmar and marv, they both wrongly tunneled Tfrel and Sandroba for 3 days straight, and townread mebaby. They were wrong 3 times, for 3 days. Both didn't catch scum rayn for those 3 days. Maybe I am slightly exaggerating but not too much. So don't think marv is flawless and it makes him mafia.
Why Palmar is mafia:
4) His reads are not good enough. The Oats read; which was at that time his top 1 mafia, was opportunistic and badly thought out. His marv read is just OMGUS and trying to discredit the person who leads his wagon.
5) He can play as a town leader, so him playing like a weasel this game points towards mafia.
6) Doing better is not hard when you start at the bottom of bottoms. It's a horrible point people are making. (calling out DP). He is at his best in this game still doing worse than he did in the previous game.
Kill Palmar. Koshi if Palmar is town, after last game you realise he SHOULD be scum reading marv because marv prides himself on being the palmar whisperer and saving him from being mislynched etc. so in this game, assuming palmar is town and marv seems to just be coasting to a palmar lynch here, town!palmar is always going to read marv as mafia. Why now? Why not 2-3 hours ago Because I have infinite faith in marv coming around. 2-3 hours ago I didn't actually think I was going to be killed. I NEED to pre-empt the "well he was playing like mafia" bullshit and "I would never call him mafia as scum because it's risky cause people think I'm the Palmar oracle" that he has already posted in the thread. If I do get lynched this needs to be in the thread. That's why I'm pointing it out now.
… pulling on my heart strings. Is it going to work? Stay tuned.
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On March 06 2024 08:04 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 08:03 marvellosity wrote:
Palmar calling me mafia is not helping me townread him.
And it’s not omgus. It’s his only play as mafia. Still reading g Why does it have any bearing on your read what he calls you?
If he doesn’t come out swinging he’s fucked.
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On March 06 2024 07:27 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 07:19 justanothertownie wrote:On March 06 2024 07:13 DarthPunk wrote:On March 06 2024 07:08 Koshi wrote:
For the people thinking this was a good post by Palmar.
why marv should not be called mafia:
1) marv has a 7 page filter and is actually playing. That alone is enough to not call him mafia D1.
2) Palmar admits the first vote is legit on him. So that means marv came out of hiding to post a legit vote that would and could mean he had to play hard for the rest of the game if town!Palmar brought his A game. It is less likely Mafia!marv would do that because he cba. Town!marv would come out because he thinks it is the best thing to do for town. So this also leans towards a town!marv. This alone would be a good reason not to vote marv D1.
3) marv being wrong on Palmar means fuck all for his alignment. Last game, with Palmar and marv, they both wrongly tunneled Tfrel and Sandroba for 3 days straight, and townread mebaby. They were wrong 3 times, for 3 days. Both didn't catch scum rayn for those 3 days. Maybe I am slightly exaggerating but not too much. So don't think marv is flawless and it makes him mafia.
Why Palmar is mafia:
4) His reads are not good enough. The Oats read; which was at that time his top 1 mafia, was opportunistic and badly thought out. His marv read is just OMGUS and trying to discredit the person who leads his wagon.
5) He can play as a town leader, so him playing like a weasel this game points towards mafia.
6) Doing better is not hard when you start at the bottom of bottoms. It's a horrible point people are making. (calling out DP). He is at his best in this game still doing worse than he did in the previous game.
Kill Palmar. Koshi if Palmar is town, after last game you realise he SHOULD be scum reading marv because marv prides himself on being the palmar whisperer and saving him from being mislynched etc. so in this game, assuming palmar is town and marv seems to just be coasting to a palmar lynch here, town!palmar is always going to read marv as mafia. Scum marv knows he will not easily be able to mislynch town Palmar. And I really really doubt he would ever try needlessly since he hates putting effort in as mafia. I don;t buy this at all sorry. Palmar was a really easy mislynch here.
Bad logic DP. If palmar is town and I am mafia I am risking palmar coming out looking really townie. I can’t possibly assume he will stay inactive.
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On March 06 2024 08:14 iamperfection wrote:
my fucking phone broke
Oh baby cakes.
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I might have to concede I shouldn’t lynch palmar here.
I still think he can be mafia. But his posts have a much better tone to them now.
The doubt may make it a bad lynch.
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Did anyone answer me on JAT?
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On March 06 2024 08:02 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 08:00 marvellosity wrote:
I haven’t got to his posting.
As JAT seems to be a real wagon, can someone answer why he is taking this weird stance with Vivax?
Vivax is clearly going to be mafia and he’s only making himself look bad.
I think Jat is smarter than that. What’s his agenda? It’s clear no one else is going to be elected mayor at this stage That's why he is mafia, keep up marv.
Found it. Explain this logic to me. My point is he knows better as mafia.
As town he can just really believe in this Vivax stuff. I don’t think it’s unreasonable as I’m only voting Vivax for an easy life.
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On March 06 2024 08:18 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 08:12 marvellosity wrote:On March 06 2024 07:27 DarthPunk wrote:On March 06 2024 07:19 justanothertownie wrote:On March 06 2024 07:13 DarthPunk wrote:On March 06 2024 07:08 Koshi wrote:
For the people thinking this was a good post by Palmar.
why marv should not be called mafia:
1) marv has a 7 page filter and is actually playing. That alone is enough to not call him mafia D1.
2) Palmar admits the first vote is legit on him. So that means marv came out of hiding to post a legit vote that would and could mean he had to play hard for the rest of the game if town!Palmar brought his A game. It is less likely Mafia!marv would do that because he cba. Town!marv would come out because he thinks it is the best thing to do for town. So this also leans towards a town!marv. This alone would be a good reason not to vote marv D1.
3) marv being wrong on Palmar means fuck all for his alignment. Last game, with Palmar and marv, they both wrongly tunneled Tfrel and Sandroba for 3 days straight, and townread mebaby. They were wrong 3 times, for 3 days. Both didn't catch scum rayn for those 3 days. Maybe I am slightly exaggerating but not too much. So don't think marv is flawless and it makes him mafia.
Why Palmar is mafia:
4) His reads are not good enough. The Oats read; which was at that time his top 1 mafia, was opportunistic and badly thought out. His marv read is just OMGUS and trying to discredit the person who leads his wagon.
5) He can play as a town leader, so him playing like a weasel this game points towards mafia.
6) Doing better is not hard when you start at the bottom of bottoms. It's a horrible point people are making. (calling out DP). He is at his best in this game still doing worse than he did in the previous game.
Kill Palmar. Koshi if Palmar is town, after last game you realise he SHOULD be scum reading marv because marv prides himself on being the palmar whisperer and saving him from being mislynched etc. so in this game, assuming palmar is town and marv seems to just be coasting to a palmar lynch here, town!palmar is always going to read marv as mafia. Scum marv knows he will not easily be able to mislynch town Palmar. And I really really doubt he would ever try needlessly since he hates putting effort in as mafia. I don;t buy this at all sorry. Palmar was a really easy mislynch here. Bad logic DP. If palmar is town and I am mafia I am risking palmar coming out looking really townie. I can’t possibly assume he will stay inactive. Do you actually agree that you would never push a palmar mislynch as mafia.
Bet you can’t find an instance in our 50 games together where I did
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I really want to go to bed but I am racked with indecision.
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##unvote
##vote: Trfel
This is not a townread on Palmar. But he is right, if I have doubt I should probably wait a day. I get 72 hours more to nail him if he is mafia after all.
I’m uncomfortable lynching JAT. I have nothing on Trfel but I’m sheeping the only alternative.
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On March 06 2024 08:23 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +11) justanothertownie - It almost feels suicidal to be against** the Vivax for mayor narrative so frankly I don't see JAT doing so as mafia and sticking out like a sore thumb. ^ ETA.
My precise thoughts Jealous.
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On March 06 2024 08:25 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 08:24 marvellosity wrote:
##unvote
##vote: Trfel
This is not a townread on Palmar. But he is right, if I have doubt I should probably wait a day. I get 72 hours more to nail him if he is mafia after all.
I’m uncomfortable lynching JAT. I have nothing on Trfel but I’m sheeping the only alternative. what do you mean nothing
I’ve not read him and I’ve not really concentrated on what anyone said about him. His peace out post can be anything.
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On March 06 2024 08:25 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 08:25 marvellosity wrote:On March 06 2024 08:23 Jealous wrote:11) justanothertownie - It almost feels suicidal to be against** the Vivax for mayor narrative so frankly I don't see JAT doing so as mafia and sticking out like a sore thumb. ^ ETA. My precise thoughts Jealous. It was a great post.
It really was. I particularly agreed with Hapa in green tbh :/
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On March 06 2024 08:26 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 08:24 marvellosity wrote:
##unvote
##vote: Trfel
This is not a townread on Palmar. But he is right, if I have doubt I should probably wait a day. I get 72 hours more to nail him if he is mafia after all.
I’m uncomfortable lynching JAT. I have nothing on Trfel but I’m sheeping the only alternative. How do you feel about the people who sheeped you onto me?
It’s natural to sheep me on to you. I don’t have the time to parse this now
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On March 06 2024 08:27 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 08:26 marvellosity wrote:On March 06 2024 08:25 iamperfection wrote:On March 06 2024 08:24 marvellosity wrote:
##unvote
##vote: Trfel
This is not a townread on Palmar. But he is right, if I have doubt I should probably wait a day. I get 72 hours more to nail him if he is mafia after all.
I’m uncomfortable lynching JAT. I have nothing on Trfel but I’m sheeping the only alternative. what do you mean nothing I’ve not read him and I’ve not really concentrated on what anyone said about him. His peace out post can be anything. He is coasting by on a sandro town read all day one.
You don’t need to convince me. I am making the only play I have 
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On March 06 2024 08:27 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 08:26 marvellosity wrote:On March 06 2024 08:25 iamperfection wrote:On March 06 2024 08:24 marvellosity wrote:
##unvote
##vote: Trfel
This is not a townread on Palmar. But he is right, if I have doubt I should probably wait a day. I get 72 hours more to nail him if he is mafia after all.
I’m uncomfortable lynching JAT. I have nothing on Trfel but I’m sheeping the only alternative. what do you mean nothing I’ve not read him and I’ve not really concentrated on what anyone said about him. His peace out post can be anything. you dont think the peace out post had a scum mindset
Or he’s a town with no time.
Life happens. I’m just gonna ride with DP.
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On March 06 2024 08:28 Vivax wrote:
I like that Jealous called rayn mafia and the quotes that followed.
Not the time for a hero play but I guarantee that I will be eagerly be drilling into rayn with inquiries past D1 or worse.
Yes it’s hard to see that read coming from mafia.
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On March 06 2024 08:36 DarthPunk wrote:
BTW, why does JAT need to wait for marv's permission to vote trfel to save himself, seems really fucking off to me.
Is Jat the kind of player who sucks up to marv.
A million percent he is.
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On March 06 2024 08:55 Palmar wrote:
I'm finalizing here.
I like a bunch of mafia in:
rayn
jat
rels
mz
tts
then there's gonna be some mafia in the people who should be killed on policy
vivax
trfel
hapa
then there's the people that need constant monitoring and need to improve
iamp
marv
jealous
copcake
slam
ve
and finally we have the people I have somewhere from mild to good reasons to think are town
sandro
oats
dp
dmb
jls
koshi
None of the lists are in any particular order
I don't really think Trfel will flip mafia. It's just a "I believe in people" read that he wouldn't fuck off like that as mafia with the whole "If I get lynched I get lynched" thing. But it's an objectively good lynch so I'm not going to fight it all that hard. Leaving my vote on jat. I've been burned before by placing too much faith in people not doing crazy things as mafia so it's whatever.
I sort of agree with you about Trfel tbh.
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