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On March 05 2024 08:23 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 08:21 Vivax wrote:On March 05 2024 08:14 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2024 08:12 Vivax wrote:On March 05 2024 08:08 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2024 08:04 Vivax wrote:On March 05 2024 08:03 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2024 07:59 Vivax wrote:On March 05 2024 07:58 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2024 07:56 DarthPunk wrote:
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How is he getting more power?
He is just immune to night kill, if he was getting a double vote for the rest of the game that is a different story.
Having our jailkeeper with night kill immunity is really fucking powerful, at worst it soaks a rb for the rest of the game, at best it is just literally broken.
It puts mafia in all sorts of uncomfortable positions where they are fucked if the RB gets lynched or shot.
The vig shot or whatever can be negotiated, but I don't think vivax is bad as town regardless, and he is basically confirmed town.
Why would I roll the dice on anyone who is NOT confirmed town.
Rayn, marv and sandro are NOT confirmed town. Lets be real here for a second. Vivax is also not confirmed town. Wrong. CC me or go away Nobody will CC you on day1 if you have fakeclaimed (if we even have a Jailkeeper in that case). Not unless it looks like you are actually being elected and even then I am unsure if that would be the correct play. You realize how much information I give away for free if I do this as mafia right? It's like seppuku. No, I do not realize. What are you giving away? Worst case you get the actual blue to cc you. First of all, I'd betray all of my teammates just out of the blue. The actual JK would be able to coordinate his actions better by knowing I was confirmed scum. What you're suggesting is that I'd blindly gamethrow as mafia on D1. I wouldnt call that game throwing and weirder plays have been made. Doing it as town is arguably worse in my opinion. You'd still just sack a town JK on the first night so that says it all about the worth of your opinion. Not just yours though. Yeah, I will not sacrifice a strong town mayor for a JK that claimed needlessly.
Who's town?
The guy you are so sure you can read like a pro or a 100% authentic claim?
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It's the same fallacy casinos use. People prefer the attractive uncertainty over the unattractive certainty.
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On March 05 2024 08:27 Vivax wrote:
It's the same fallacy casinos use. People prefer the attractive uncertainty over the unattractive certainty.
Maybe I won‘t find mafia with this, but players with a basic understanding of what must be done in certain situations.
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So Rels, Dp, Dmb, Koshi are the smartest in the game for sure.
That should further be of help.
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Besides, it's a first time I think.
You can go back to the game and see what happens if town succeeds in cooperating to elect such a role as mayor.
Instead many opt to suppress the innovative thinking in favour of conformism.
As for the second kill, the runner-up to the main wagon would be alright.
Otherwise a zero-poster.
No shenanigans.
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On March 05 2024 08:15 Koshi wrote:
mafia is rayn, marv, tfrel and 2 lurkers
Town misslynches pushed by mafia are VE
Town misslynches pushed by town are most likely TTS, MZ, DMB and CC
That's where I am now.
I could see Trfel, the shield by cop bugs me too, though she could just be associating herself on purpose.
Especially the claim is something he would love to discuss as town as he's very analytical.
Looking forward to see his updates.
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On March 05 2024 08:47 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 08:44 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2024 08:41 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2024 08:37 marvellosity wrote:
##vote: Palmar To lynch I assume? Obviously Surface level, obvious townreads without Palmar-esque reasoning behind them. Trying too hard to be funny. Mafia
I could sheep you on that but it's possible he's still catching up.
We can do Oats + Palmar for D1.
What's your take on Oats?
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On March 05 2024 08:53 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 08:51 Vivax wrote:On March 05 2024 08:47 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2024 08:44 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2024 08:41 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2024 08:37 marvellosity wrote:
##vote: Palmar To lynch I assume? Obviously Surface level, obvious townreads without Palmar-esque reasoning behind them. Trying too hard to be funny. Mafia I could sheep you on that but it's possible he's still catching up. We can do Oats + Palmar for D1. What's your take on Oats? I thought tonally he has sounded town to me, lots of posts naturally coming one after another. I’m willing to listen if you think otherwise though - sorry if I missed reasoning beforehand.
I think I saw too much overdrive from him early, like the question to Grack that seemed like filler. And now he's fallen off a cliff.
His reaction to the claim was minimalistic.
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On March 05 2024 08:54 Koshi wrote:
marv vote between rayn and Vivax please. I want you to pledge your vote already. If you are town it would actually ease my mind. I don't understand why you would need more time.
Mafia has 5 members. I want this to be obvious before I go to bed tomorrow.
Ditto.
Also what makes Koshi further supertown.
Committment is needed.
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On March 05 2024 08:01 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 05:31 CopCake wrote:On March 05 2024 05:29 Koshi wrote:On March 04 2024 12:40 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:31 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:28 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:25 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:19 Trfel wrote:
[quote]Seems like an easy way to avoid the responsibility of the results of said lynch, no?
And I don't understand why saying pregame that you would vote for Palmar and then changing your mind is a reason we should make you mayor? I was making a joke about Vivax saying he was going to autovote Palmar pregame and then immediately changed his mind. Imo the Mayor KP is town KP, not a oneshot Day vig. It's not about avoiding responsibility it's about giving the town a chance to pull a 2for1 on D1. Actually I'll cement that point, if I'm not going to win the mayor vote at the end of the day, I'm not going to vote for someone who hasn't also pledged to have the town decide the lynch. I don't think the second wagon is a "town lynch" at all. In fact there's a decent likelihood that the second wagon would be pushed by mafia, no? That's assuming the first lynch is scum which D1 imo is a crap shoot, it's just as likely to be town pushed by mafia and the runner up is the scum, hence the double tap. TL towns are like barely 50% for D1 scum lynches iirc. You're still ignoring the possibility that both are town. My point is, just because "town" votes for something doesn't make it the best play. I'm not saying you have to go for a hero play or something, but just that automatically lynching the top two instead of the top one isn't necessarily a good idea. If both are town then we'll have played a colossally trash D1 and I wouldn't be trusting my own read anymore than I trust any other individual on D1. There's something to be said for wisdom of the crowds. There's almost nothing to be said for wisdom of the crowds, that's the point. It's 16 vs 5, the whole point is that wisdom of the crowds is really ineffective, that's how the game works. The problem with this entire conversation is that Tfrel looks smart and MZ bad. But it is the only thing Tfrel does in this entire timespan. Look smart. But he isn't doing anything that helps town find mafia. I don't like it at all. I think this is the second? comment about it, first being my rayn if I remember correctly. Why the "Trfl looks smart" a bad thing? Last game here, he was on fire and caught all the mafia team. If you feel like that, pressure him to give you a list of players. Because he looks smart on a set-up topic. As mafia it is harder to look good doing actual scumhunting, seeing somebody play sub optimal in a set-up way and make a conversation about that is way easier. You know you have the upper ground. During that conversation he doesn't make any other posts interrogating people or does he try to solve the game. He is content to just talk setup with somebody.
Old school best school
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On March 05 2024 09:00 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2024 15:15 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 04 2024 15:06 DarthPunk wrote:
Oats looking better.
Why? I’m doing the same shit I was earlier Does a scum post this?
Yes. Questioning lack of suspicion on themselves is actually not uncomon.
You still have your vote parked on VE.
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On March 05 2024 09:04 marvellosity wrote:
I’m watching 2 anime characters have sex. Wasn’t expecting that
That's why rayn and sandro are not posting.
You turned the discord into a smut cinema.
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On March 05 2024 09:07 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 09:06 Vivax wrote:On March 05 2024 09:04 marvellosity wrote:
I’m watching 2 anime characters have sex. Wasn’t expecting that That's why rayn and sandro are not posting. You turned the discord into a smut cinema. Really is my style in fairness
Vote me for mayor and I'll tell you what dmb got from me as first gift.
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On March 05 2024 09:08 marvellosity wrote:
Sorry I was rude earlier Vivax. Wasn’t cool
I don't even mind when it's a single person but when it gets a group dynamic it sucks
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I apologize too.
I'm surprised rayn didn't react more emotionally when I was rude to him though. Unless he is mafia of course.
Iamp probably doesn't give a damn.
JAT is just same old.
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On March 05 2024 09:23 Koshi wrote:
Rels is playing so good. Isn't he normally a guy who gathers a lot of votes on him as town and then comes back near EoD and tries to defend himself and fail?
I know he can play good. But mostly if he is left alone till later.
He upsets me but I don't know why.
Reminds me a bit of a French secret agent I once played chess with.
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On March 05 2024 05:56 Rels wrote:
I will be gone for the next few hours. die_meatbaby when I'm back this evening I would be ecstatic if I find a list post from you, or even who is your biggest scumread and why
Bruh
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Trfel, Oats, CC, Palmar, rayn
would be my main sussy pool and Palmar is just me throwing trust at marv for now.
The auxiliary pool consists of JS, MZ, marv atm. I liked JS posts though, but pockety.
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On March 05 2024 10:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
Anyway here’s where I’m at
Town: koshi, iamp, rayn
Mafia: VE, jacob,
I value your input as I was really impressed by your reads on MS and frankly this looks like too little.
What do you think about sandro, marv, DP?
I really struggle to spot any type of focus here buddy.
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Trfel had a hard townread on Oats and it needs updating.
I‘m not even tunneled I think.
I think rayn can be mafia but I‘d still not lynch him.
Cop felt like she was in way over her head at times.
Seeing Slam like this saddens me btw. Maybe he had a similar thought to mine.
Palmar a bit stiff overall. But I like his humour.
MZ with a very perfectionist display. Maybe a bit too much error-free for my liking. He avoids classical shitfights.
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