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On March 05 2024 10:18 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 10:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
This DP push feels heavily contrived, why did that post from yonks ago trigger him I was rereading and it struck me as true, also you stopped caring and that doesn't parse with your town play last game. Nice to have you back though :D
Much less time unfortunately than that game
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On March 05 2024 08:57 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 08:50 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2024 08:50 iamperfection wrote:On March 05 2024 08:47 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2024 08:44 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2024 08:41 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2024 08:37 marvellosity wrote:
##vote: Palmar To lynch I assume? Obviously Surface level, obvious townreads without Palmar-esque reasoning behind them. Trying too hard to be funny. Mafia A solid case Best in the thread tbh I will go with that for now. Its solid ev regardless of the involved alignments.
What are you saying here?
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On March 05 2024 10:14 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 02:32 iamperfection wrote:
I'm inclined to think vivax has to be town. No scum claims like that. I strongly oppose any effort to make him mayor. He already has shown he willing to throw as town we aren't giving him power. OK so you accept he's town but don't want a town mayor? He has one kill and then is a potentially confirmed townie who can't get NK'd? If you believe he's town it would be dumb not to make him mayor. I don't think this is town aligned thinking, this is the kind of post scum would make who don't want a potentially confirmed town running around.
This is a softing scum read post, do you actually scum read iamp and why?
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Anyway here’s where I’m at
Town: koshi, iamp, rayn
Mafia: VE, jacob,
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On March 05 2024 10:37 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 04:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
Fuck no I’m not electing vivax
He’s probably town though and he’ll self resolve Like 4 people have said this now and I'm having a really hard time understanding people's reservations to have someone they believe is town as mayor, especially when that person has already offered the mayor kill to the town so the whole "vivax won't know who to kill" point is moot.
Killing the second top vote getter isn’t “offering the vote to town”.
I’m also not sure why it’s a problem that I have other town reads?
And there is also opportunity cost voting vivax
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On March 05 2024 10:40 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 10:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
Anyway here’s where I’m at
Town: koshi, iamp, rayn
Mafia: VE, jacob, If my push on you is contrived why don't you have an opinion on my alginment?
I’m really not putting my effort into figuring you out day 1 tbh, it’s a lost cause for me
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On March 05 2024 10:49 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 10:46 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 05 2024 10:40 DarthPunk wrote:On March 05 2024 10:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
Anyway here’s where I’m at
Town: koshi, iamp, rayn
Mafia: VE, jacob, If my push on you is contrived why don't you have an opinion on my alginment? I’m really not putting my effort into figuring you out day 1 tbh, it’s a lost cause for me What's your read on cake?
I think her thing about the town circle thing feels forced but I’ve got bigger fish to fry, I’ll look at her more later today
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On March 05 2024 11:39 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Holy shit that took me like an hour and a half. The person who stood out the worst to me during the readthrough was copcake. I am also going to look at everyone who said "vivax town but I'm not voting him for reasons blah blah blah"
Sandroba probably my strongest townread at the moment aside from Vivax.
Sandroba literally said what you looking at people for what??
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On March 05 2024 11:52 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 05:56 Rels wrote:
I will be gone for the next few hours. die_meatbaby when I'm back this evening I would be ecstatic if I find a list post from you, or even who is your biggest scumread and why Rels this is such a hard post to make this early of a game and my opinions will for sure change but for right now this what I think of the players and I know everytime I make a list post people call me scum but as I want to make a favor for a french guy for once in a lifetime here you go… Good TownMe 🙂
VivaxI know the claim was unnecessary if he has no PR. But I would say for sure never what he make such scummy slightly stupid thing as mafia. Too obvious, too high for his mafia meta. Maybe he is just a Townie but I totally understand why he did such a thing. He has trust issues and paranoia with this things you wouldn´t trust on anybody else to vote as a major. But he knows his alignment and it is for sure safer option to have as a major then anybody else right now! I hope he is blue, if not he is at least Town. And you guys know I would lynch him directly if he looks scummy to me. Did it as Town and as Mafia but right now I don´t see any reason to lynch him because he wouldn´t play like this as mafia TownRelshe only has a 2 page filter but he asks very good questions and really tries to help Town. At least that's how it looks to me for now. Could change quickly of course Sandrobahas the same energie as in the last game. Safe for now. Less Town but would have a chance to get TownishKoshi Didn´t like his inactivity at the start of the game. I know him way more active and aggressiv as Town. DPTrfl IAPSlightly scummyJSLMy Dear CC I am sorry but you disappointed me at the teaparty JustanotherTowniejustanotherscum MarvNo Town Marv behavier found MafiaOatsmasterSeems like he just asks a stupid questions and not trying to help us. RaynShow nested quote +On March 05 2024 04:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2024 04:58 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 05 2024 04:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2024 04:31 Vivax wrote:On March 05 2024 04:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2024 04:23 Vivax wrote:On March 05 2024 04:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2024 04:19 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 05 2024 04:10 Alakaslam wrote:
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Isn't Koshi saying he suspects a fake claim from Vivax?
This would be because Vivax is usually very adverse to real claiming,
Which implies this is a gambit for mayor.
If Vivax wasn't under pressure, that is further evidence it was a gambit for mayor.
Where is my comprehension/logic problem? He is not fake claiming thats not what he would do. As I already know fake claiming always be exposed at some point and as he loves to play here on TL he would not risk a fake claim as scum and risking an early lynch. Just feels so wrong and it would be not comparable with any game I habe read of him. Maybe he is Town and claims so we get a town mayor but even that doesn´t seem like his meta Why would Vivax think we don't get town mayor as he thinks i am town? Correction: I currently think you are town. But I know I'm town. Yes but how does DMB come to conclusion that while you thinking i am town, you need to claim to have a town mayor? Because for me that seems like an insane thought process. No it's clear rationality. How do you protect the role that can't protect itself but other players? You make it mayor. They have to kill three randomly selected BGS before they can NK me. If we get the roleblocker I become a jailkeeper with medic protection. It's honestly mind boggling I have to explain. I understand your point. I really do. It just hinges on us getting the roleblocker where there is no guarantee on. Otherwise none of this matters because most likely there is nothing else to roleblock than you.... I don't usually live long as town. There is perhaps some logic to that. I am not sure if you know this but i am 11/4 in LYLO (let it be F-3, F-5, or F-7) situations. From those games, one is where i had the correct read and i just couldnt for my life convince Oats to vote for VA over me even when the mafia dude was voting for Oats (lol). One i got right but i still consider it a loss, because i think Art/rsoul slot cheated to get me townread them and DP was mafia (RSM2). So basically i am really fucking good when i live long enough. I just: 1) dont get to live long enough 2) dont have enough "decent people" around long enough Both of these can be avoided this game, (2) naturally and (1) by making me a mayor. I have never been lynched in LYLO as town, have you? Does it tell you anything about how you/me look to other people and who is more trusthworthy (if we assume we have good reads -- as i legit know you DO have good reads most of the time, later on in the game)? The only other player i would genuinely say is on par or even perhaps better than i am late game as town is marv. you rolled so often mafia that your mafia game is insane and i would not vote you as a mayor in any game. There is no way to confince me to vote you as major. I would rather vote on somebody who plays bad mafia. You are not a safe option for mayor def. not. that's bullshit you have not seen me mafia aside from last game and i havent rolled mafia in like 1,5 years before that. I actually called him a really good mafia player here and his reaction is definitely not townish. No categorySlam illegible god of the gameMZ useless (for me rn) VE I'm sorry but I can't judge you, that would be the same as a doctor measuring the heartbeat of a coked-up guy. The result will probably be wrong Just WTF TotheStars I mean his filter looks worse then the history of my country Not playing jealous Hapahauli
This is just OMGUS
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Thinking about it more, that dmb list is terrible
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On March 05 2024 13:02 JacobStrangelove wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 12:57 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 05 2024 11:52 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 05 2024 05:56 Rels wrote:
I will be gone for the next few hours. die_meatbaby when I'm back this evening I would be ecstatic if I find a list post from you, or even who is your biggest scumread and why Rels this is such a hard post to make this early of a game and my opinions will for sure change but for right now this what I think of the players and I know everytime I make a list post people call me scum but as I want to make a favor for a french guy for once in a lifetime here you go… Good TownMe 🙂
VivaxI know the claim was unnecessary if he has no PR. But I would say for sure never what he make such scummy slightly stupid thing as mafia. Too obvious, too high for his mafia meta. Maybe he is just a Townie but I totally understand why he did such a thing. He has trust issues and paranoia with this things you wouldn´t trust on anybody else to vote as a major. But he knows his alignment and it is for sure safer option to have as a major then anybody else right now! I hope he is blue, if not he is at least Town. And you guys know I would lynch him directly if he looks scummy to me. Did it as Town and as Mafia but right now I don´t see any reason to lynch him because he wouldn´t play like this as mafia TownRelshe only has a 2 page filter but he asks very good questions and really tries to help Town. At least that's how it looks to me for now. Could change quickly of course Sandrobahas the same energie as in the last game. Safe for now. Less Town but would have a chance to get TownishKoshi Didn´t like his inactivity at the start of the game. I know him way more active and aggressiv as Town. DPTrfl IAPSlightly scummyJSLMy Dear CC I am sorry but you disappointed me at the teaparty JustanotherTowniejustanotherscum MarvNo Town Marv behavier found MafiaOatsmasterSeems like he just asks a stupid questions and not trying to help us. RaynOn March 05 2024 04:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2024 04:58 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 05 2024 04:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2024 04:31 Vivax wrote:On March 05 2024 04:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2024 04:23 Vivax wrote:On March 05 2024 04:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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Why would Vivax think we don't get town mayor as he thinks i am town? Correction: I currently think you are town. But I know I'm town. Yes but how does DMB come to conclusion that while you thinking i am town, you need to claim to have a town mayor? Because for me that seems like an insane thought process. No it's clear rationality. How do you protect the role that can't protect itself but other players? You make it mayor. They have to kill three randomly selected BGS before they can NK me. If we get the roleblocker I become a jailkeeper with medic protection. It's honestly mind boggling I have to explain. I understand your point. I really do. It just hinges on us getting the roleblocker where there is no guarantee on. Otherwise none of this matters because most likely there is nothing else to roleblock than you.... I don't usually live long as town. There is perhaps some logic to that. I am not sure if you know this but i am 11/4 in LYLO (let it be F-3, F-5, or F-7) situations. From those games, one is where i had the correct read and i just couldnt for my life convince Oats to vote for VA over me even when the mafia dude was voting for Oats (lol). One i got right but i still consider it a loss, because i think Art/rsoul slot cheated to get me townread them and DP was mafia (RSM2). So basically i am really fucking good when i live long enough. I just: 1) dont get to live long enough 2) dont have enough "decent people" around long enough Both of these can be avoided this game, (2) naturally and (1) by making me a mayor. I have never been lynched in LYLO as town, have you? Does it tell you anything about how you/me look to other people and who is more trusthworthy (if we assume we have good reads -- as i legit know you DO have good reads most of the time, later on in the game)? The only other player i would genuinely say is on par or even perhaps better than i am late game as town is marv. you rolled so often mafia that your mafia game is insane and i would not vote you as a mayor in any game. There is no way to confince me to vote you as major. I would rather vote on somebody who plays bad mafia. You are not a safe option for mayor def. not. that's bullshit you have not seen me mafia aside from last game and i havent rolled mafia in like 1,5 years before that. I actually called him a really good mafia player here and his reaction is definitely not townish. No categorySlam illegible god of the gameMZ useless (for me rn) VE I'm sorry but I can't judge you, that would be the same as a doctor measuring the heartbeat of a coked-up guy. The result will probably be wrong Just WTF TotheStars I mean his filter looks worse then the history of my country Not playing jealous Hapahauli This is just OMGUS OMG you're right everyone vote Die baby she made a list post must be scum. xD *your fears are coming true* I think apart from extreme paranoia about list posting die baby seems to be making town like actions consistant with her meta.
What exactly are those
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On March 05 2024 13:07 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 13:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
Thinking about it more, that dmb list is terrible why do you think that. had no reason to give reads and did so ? Why would mafia do that?
What?
Why would mafia pretend to be town? Is this a serious question?
Also rels asked her
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On March 05 2024 13:31 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 11:56 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Not to hard buddy DP more than I already have but wtf iamperf?
That makes perfect sense from town dp? Do you think Scum dp will be like yes we should have a random pile of people some of who are my scum buddies likely then leave it up to chance? He's far to control freak for that.
But acknowledging that mafia will likely be able to focus on a not town with statistical chance and a little influence picking a group we dislike and randomly removing one based on "as confirmed town as practical" vivax makes for a higher shot we actually hit a mafia as they can't control the hit as well while still being town choosing.
On a side note think I'm finally convinced to mayor Vivax assuming we go by this plan.
Mayor Vivax. This post is way too reasonable for JSL btw.
What’s his meta?
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On March 05 2024 13:46 iamperfection wrote:
I have no idea what to make of DP voting me.
I have explained several times i dont want someone who already acted like an idiot to get the hands on a lynch. Say he does something stupid again what we have to just say oh well guess we just have to live with that hes "confirmed".
I have already said before that i think rayn is extremely likely to be town. I don’t think my logic is wrong. It would be insane to go as mafia to marv. Yes there is a tiny chance they are mafia together but I don’t think that is worth entertaining. I feel like only a few people have looked at this point and some have ignored it and im not sure why. He is one of the few ppl I think in the game with the balls to do it as mafia but I don’t think its likely. I have had some doubts about this but the more i think about i reach the same conclusion over and over again i don't think im wrong.
Why wouldn’t they do this as mafia? It’s not a commitment
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On March 05 2024 14:12 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 14:11 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 05 2024 13:46 iamperfection wrote:
I have no idea what to make of DP voting me.
I have explained several times i dont want someone who already acted like an idiot to get the hands on a lynch. Say he does something stupid again what we have to just say oh well guess we just have to live with that hes "confirmed".
I have already said before that i think rayn is extremely likely to be town. I don’t think my logic is wrong. It would be insane to go as mafia to marv. Yes there is a tiny chance they are mafia together but I don’t think that is worth entertaining. I feel like only a few people have looked at this point and some have ignored it and im not sure why. He is one of the few ppl I think in the game with the balls to do it as mafia but I don’t think its likely. I have had some doubts about this but the more i think about i reach the same conclusion over and over again i don't think im wrong. Why wouldn’t they do this as mafia? It’s not a commitment what do you mean
The whisper ends at the end of the day and they aren’t obligated to whisper again, it’s not like a role.
I do agree that either both are mafia or rayn is town, I don’t think he does that as mafia rayn to town marv
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On March 05 2024 14:18 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 14:16 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 05 2024 14:12 iamperfection wrote:On March 05 2024 14:11 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 05 2024 13:46 iamperfection wrote:
I have no idea what to make of DP voting me.
I have explained several times i dont want someone who already acted like an idiot to get the hands on a lynch. Say he does something stupid again what we have to just say oh well guess we just have to live with that hes "confirmed".
I have already said before that i think rayn is extremely likely to be town. I don’t think my logic is wrong. It would be insane to go as mafia to marv. Yes there is a tiny chance they are mafia together but I don’t think that is worth entertaining. I feel like only a few people have looked at this point and some have ignored it and im not sure why. He is one of the few ppl I think in the game with the balls to do it as mafia but I don’t think its likely. I have had some doubts about this but the more i think about i reach the same conclusion over and over again i don't think im wrong. Why wouldn’t they do this as mafia? It’s not a commitment what do you mean The whisper ends at the end of the day and they aren’t obligated to whisper again, it’s not like a role. I do agree that either both are mafia or rayn is town, I don’t think he does that as mafia rayn to town marv so you agree with me i dont get what your getting at.
I think there’s a significant chance that they are mafia together what the fuck is happening???
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Anyway can we actually talk about your scumreads iamp? Like actually what’s your read on DMB?
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On March 05 2024 14:23 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 14:20 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 05 2024 14:18 iamperfection wrote:On March 05 2024 14:16 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 05 2024 14:12 iamperfection wrote:On March 05 2024 14:11 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 05 2024 13:46 iamperfection wrote:
I have no idea what to make of DP voting me.
I have explained several times i dont want someone who already acted like an idiot to get the hands on a lynch. Say he does something stupid again what we have to just say oh well guess we just have to live with that hes "confirmed".
I have already said before that i think rayn is extremely likely to be town. I don’t think my logic is wrong. It would be insane to go as mafia to marv. Yes there is a tiny chance they are mafia together but I don’t think that is worth entertaining. I feel like only a few people have looked at this point and some have ignored it and im not sure why. He is one of the few ppl I think in the game with the balls to do it as mafia but I don’t think its likely. I have had some doubts about this but the more i think about i reach the same conclusion over and over again i don't think im wrong. Why wouldn’t they do this as mafia? It’s not a commitment what do you mean The whisper ends at the end of the day and they aren’t obligated to whisper again, it’s not like a role. I do agree that either both are mafia or rayn is town, I don’t think he does that as mafia rayn to town marv so you agree with me i dont get what your getting at. I think there’s a significant chance that they are mafia together what the fuck is happening??? Really? i don't think that's likely.
It’s like we are two hamsters running on the treadmill
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On March 05 2024 14:50 JacobStrangelove wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 14:43 DarthPunk wrote:On March 05 2024 14:42 JacobStrangelove wrote:
I have to admit the game is much nicer assuming DP is town until like day 3. But also he does seem to be playing the same as I last remember him play town. I was starting to get worried that he wasn't being paranoid enough on his end but he fixed that as well so... Are you mafia Jake? I am not mafia and I'll go as far to be more specific and claim not traitor.
Why was traitor on your mind enough to say it? Seems very odd
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