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On March 05 2024 05:31 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 05:29 Koshi wrote:On March 04 2024 12:40 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:31 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:28 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:25 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:19 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
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Well first off I didn't say pregame I'd vote for Palmar and then change my mind once the game started.
Secondly I don't think I've ever been a mayor before.
Thirdly I pledge to make my personal lynch a town lynch and will select whoever is the second in votes at the end of the day. Seems like an easy way to avoid the responsibility of the results of said lynch, no? And I don't understand why saying pregame that you would vote for Palmar and then changing your mind is a reason we should make you mayor? I was making a joke about Vivax saying he was going to autovote Palmar pregame and then immediately changed his mind. Imo the Mayor KP is town KP, not a oneshot Day vig. It's not about avoiding responsibility it's about giving the town a chance to pull a 2for1 on D1. Actually I'll cement that point, if I'm not going to win the mayor vote at the end of the day, I'm not going to vote for someone who hasn't also pledged to have the town decide the lynch. I don't think the second wagon is a "town lynch" at all. In fact there's a decent likelihood that the second wagon would be pushed by mafia, no? That's assuming the first lynch is scum which D1 imo is a crap shoot, it's just as likely to be town pushed by mafia and the runner up is the scum, hence the double tap. TL towns are like barely 50% for D1 scum lynches iirc. You're still ignoring the possibility that both are town. My point is, just because "town" votes for something doesn't make it the best play. I'm not saying you have to go for a hero play or something, but just that automatically lynching the top two instead of the top one isn't necessarily a good idea. If both are town then we'll have played a colossally trash D1 and I wouldn't be trusting my own read anymore than I trust any other individual on D1. There's something to be said for wisdom of the crowds. There's almost nothing to be said for wisdom of the crowds, that's the point. It's 16 vs 5, the whole point is that wisdom of the crowds is really ineffective, that's how the game works. The problem with this entire conversation is that Tfrel looks smart and MZ bad. But it is the only thing Tfrel does in this entire timespan. Look smart. But he isn't doing anything that helps town find mafia. I don't like it at all. I think this is the second? comment about it, first being my rayn if I remember correctly. Why the "Trfl looks smart" a bad thing? Last game here, he was on fire and caught all the mafia team. If you feel like that, pressure him to give you a list of players.
Because he looks smart on a set-up topic. As mafia it is harder to look good doing actual scumhunting, seeing somebody play sub optimal in a set-up way and make a conversation about that is way easier. You know you have the upper ground.
During that conversation he doesn't make any other posts interrogating people or does he try to solve the game. He is content to just talk setup with somebody.
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On March 05 2024 08:01 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 08:00 DarthPunk wrote:On March 05 2024 07:59 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2024 07:58 DarthPunk wrote:
The fact that vivax claimed when he did is arguably bad, but now that he HAS claimed, it is just worse to not make him NK immune by voting him for mayor.
otherwise he will just get NK this night, and we lose a confirmed town.
So someone explain to me why I am the idiot in this situation? You know mayors can get lynched right bud Are we lynching vivax marv? You miss my point. You elect a nut job who kills stupid people or makes stupid decision. Or you elect someone v likely town who might actually hit mafia, and In case you elected mafia after all you can still lynch them later
Why is Vivax bad at this game? Where is your proof?
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Do I really have to go and compare D1 reads from the past year between Vivax and rayn? I would be surprised if rayn is so much better.
I know for instance I have had some good D1 reads. Sadly enough my main suspect was often town but I was near mafia. Copcake once, DMB last game, iamp in the canceled game. I don't remember anything else though. Let alone Vivax and rayn reads.
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On March 05 2024 08:03 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 08:02 Koshi wrote:On March 05 2024 08:01 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2024 08:00 DarthPunk wrote:On March 05 2024 07:59 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2024 07:58 DarthPunk wrote:
The fact that vivax claimed when he did is arguably bad, but now that he HAS claimed, it is just worse to not make him NK immune by voting him for mayor.
otherwise he will just get NK this night, and we lose a confirmed town.
So someone explain to me why I am the idiot in this situation? You know mayors can get lynched right bud Are we lynching vivax marv? You miss my point. You elect a nut job who kills stupid people or makes stupid decision. Or you elect someone v likely town who might actually hit mafia, and In case you elected mafia after all you can still lynch them later Why is Vivax bad at this game? Where is your proof? Because he just rants that people are stupid. It’s incredibly bad regardless of his reads.
Nha false. He actually posted the most reads this game. Way more than rayn. rayn posted that everybody is town though. Really smart to do if you want to be mayor. I'll give him that.
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On March 05 2024 08:04 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 08:01 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2024 08:00 DarthPunk wrote:On March 05 2024 07:59 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2024 07:58 DarthPunk wrote:
The fact that vivax claimed when he did is arguably bad, but now that he HAS claimed, it is just worse to not make him NK immune by voting him for mayor.
otherwise he will just get NK this night, and we lose a confirmed town.
So someone explain to me why I am the idiot in this situation? You know mayors can get lynched right bud Are we lynching vivax marv? You miss my point. You elect a nut job who kills stupid people or makes stupid decision. Or you elect someone v likely town who might actually hit mafia, and In case you elected mafia after all you can still lynch them later Rough way to put it. But correct.
incorrect. I know where Vivax his head is way better than rayn.
Don't follow the mason shitheads.
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7 page Vivax with reads and reads progression.
And this ******** are claiming this is scum Vivax.
Come the fuck on.
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I am not going to adhoc anymore this game.
Please let me know when I do because it is not fun.
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On March 05 2024 08:06 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 08:04 Koshi wrote:
Do I really have to go and compare D1 reads from the past year between Vivax and rayn? I would be surprised if rayn is so much better.
I know for instance I have had some good D1 reads. Sadly enough my main suspect was often town but I was near mafia. Copcake once, DMB last game, iamp in the canceled game. I don't remember anything else though. Let alone Vivax and rayn reads. Who cares?
I do. Because there is an unholy push that rayn should be mafia because statistics.
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On March 05 2024 08:08 iamperfection wrote:
Nobody called him scum just not confirmed town you goof
THEN NOBODY WILL EVER BE CONFIRMED.
HE IS A 7 PAGE FILTER VIVAX WITH READS
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Oh ok. Mafia is going the Vivax is probably town and blue but idiotic for reasons so let's not make him mayor but this guy who calls literally everybody town and has amazing reads should be.
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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On March 05 2024 02:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oatsmaster - probs town
DarthPunk - townish
Vivax - town
sandroba - town
Trfel - unsure, seems slightly off for me from town game
marvellosity - town
Jealous - not posted
Meapak_Ziphh - townish
Palmar - not posted
justanothertownie - not posted
die_meatbaby - town
CopCake - null, maybe teeny tiny bit townish perhaps?
JacobStrangelove - weird, cant make a read on him
Hapahauli - not posted
Iamperfection - town
Koshi - meh, useless
ToTheStars - would like to see more, read on trfel sounds townish
VisceraEyes - scummy, useless
Rels - useless
Alakaslam - town
In the meantime I also got a townread from rayn.
DP went to mafia though.
So that is 2 mafia.
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On March 05 2024 08:09 iamperfection wrote:
Confirmed means by game mechanics he can't be scum you dolt
Ok if that is your only way to confirm somebody. Fair.
If I see a 7 page 24h Vivax I am putting him on the confirmed pile.
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mafia is rayn, marv, tfrel and 2 lurkers
Town misslynches pushed by mafia are VE
Town misslynches pushed by town are most likely TTS, MZ, DMB and CC
That's where I am now.
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On March 05 2024 08:16 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 08:15 Koshi wrote:
mafia is rayn, marv, tfrel and 2 lurkers
Town misslynches pushed by mafia are VE
Town misslynches pushed by town are most likely TTS, MZ, DMB and CC
That's where I am now. What is DP?
He is town in my opinion. I don't think he is being seriously pushed so he didn't make the list.
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Also. In my opinion mafia knows TownMayor!Vivax is a bad thing for them. They also believe the claim and they want to just shoot him N1.
I believe they are ok with him being ridiculed. I believe they prefer anybody else being mayor. They are content with his situation as it is. Not on track to be mayor and not taking seriously.
For some reason I can see Rels being mafia and being the exception. I don't know why. Maybe because he is pushing TTS wrongly and wants to also be right about something as mafia. I can't explain it.
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On March 05 2024 08:24 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 05:53 Koshi wrote:
So I am on page 36 and I am going to call marv mafia.
and I am calling sandroba & rayn dummies for pushing the marv is town shit into this thread with literally nothing to back it up.
Fuck your shit.
town!marv is very capable to play this game and get mayor. He would be a good mayor and this game could be easy and fun.
The shit you 3 are doing is horrible and against town wincon. I also play against town wincon on purpose in previous games and marv was the one complaining and saying I shouldn't do it.
Well he is doing just that.
Now what mafia!marv would do this is an entire other story. And a very believable one.
I also dislike sandroba.
I probably like rayn but not enough to say he is for sure not mafia. But ok. I can work with him most likely. Tbh I understand why you might think that about me. But I think sand looks really townie in the thread.
Yes he is confused atm but he will get there.
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On March 05 2024 08:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
I don't know why anyone cares what anyone claimed on D1, if they're real claims then they're making awful plays that ruin the game and we'll deal with that when it's relevant. Until then it's chaff and I'm tired of reading about it.
My friend, I understand what you are saying. But if it is a real claim, we need to adopt and flame Vivax after the game for being an idiot. If it is a false claim, we need to bring back the award thread and give Vivax a prize for best shennanies.
The question is. Is this 7 page Vivax town or not?
Like you said. Look beyond the goddamn claim. Look beyond what the fake!media tells you about Vivax. Is Vivax town? Is he playing for town, is he trying to solve the game? If he is. Just make him mayor. Like. Who the fuck cares. If he is town. Make him mayor.
He brought so much discussion in this game. I can genuinely say his claim made it easier for me to make reads.
Even scum!marv is coming out of hiding to stop the progression being made right here.
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On March 04 2024 12:59 Vivax wrote:
I like Jacob shrugging it off that I found him a bit suspicious early, and I tend to read his writing style as scummy I think.
So for now I am at:
Maximum town: Me
Townish: DP, JS, iamp
Unsure: MZ
Very unsure: Trfel
Scummy : Oats
MZ is mayor competition and I believe would be an ideal mafia candidate. Can‘t pin much on him though. His focus pn conversing with Trfel is noteworthy.
Trfel seemed like he mistook MZ for me with the promise to vote Palmar. Strikes me as low confidence tone wise.
DP I think is actively looking for mafia already and I felt like I had a congruent thinking moment when it came to Oats.
On March 04 2024 23:26 Vivax wrote:
Moving Oats to town. I thought he spammed too much at the time and his question to the host felt like something he could have done in PM land but the fact he felt the same way about JS looking scummish early probably means we think more alike than not.
So I‘m at:
Town: DP, Rayn, Oats, TTS
Good nulls : Marv
Null/need to read more: MZ, cop, Slam
Bad nulls: VE, Sandroba
Mafia: Trfel
On March 04 2024 23:30 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2024 23:26 Vivax wrote:
Moving Oats to town. I thought he spammed too much at the time and his question to the host felt like something he could have done in PM land but the fact he felt the same way about JS looking scummish early probably means we think more alike than not.
So I‘m at:
Town: DP, Rayn, Oats, TTS
Good nulls : Marv
Null/need to read more: MZ, cop, Slam
Bad nulls: VE, Sandroba
Mafia: Trfel Forgot to include iamp to town. Considering adding DMB to the town pile. Let‘s make it so.
This guy is reading the thread. Keeping up with his scumreads and townreads. And playing the game.
rayn, I call everybody town, is not.
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On March 05 2024 08:20 justanothertownie wrote:
We would have to have a serious talk about the additional kill though.
Funny but I think it needs to be Vivax now. I just don't see any other option.
Unless anybody tells me he is mafia.
But literally everybody calls him town. Everybody.
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