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Palmar
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Palmar DP Vivax iamp jat Rels MZ Jealous DMB Yes I think DMB may be the scummiest person here. I am almost certainly giving a shitty townread to a mafia somewhere in there. Despite the concerns regarding iamp it also may just be jat, or even one of the mechanically "confirmed" players. Sadly that probably won't be my job to deal with. | ||
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On March 18 2024 07:55 DarthPunk wrote: The thing is palmar is that I am really weak to you being smart and reasonable and witty. But I don’t know if that is enough to justify it lynching you when your case is the most tangible lead I have got right now. I am not sure what teams make sense without you. I’m guessing something like Rels/dmb/jealous/mz Yeah but if it consoles you at all, your case is trash. | ||
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What an artist the world is losing! | ||
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On March 18 2024 08:00 DarthPunk wrote: Like the fact this game is so hard points to someone as mafia who is really reasonable and townie looking who is mafia. I know buddy, I know | ||
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On March 18 2024 08:01 DarthPunk wrote: I don’t think you are getting lynched fwiw. Iamp hasn't moved. And even then, unless Jealous is town, mafia can just take this lynch as long as even one of them is reasonably hidden. Like they can sacrifice 2 for 1 here, shut down all discussion for the next 2 cycles as the counterlynches happen, and leave very tired and strategically picked 2 townies left with the best hidden mafia in lylo. It's going to be me or Jealous, and everyone else should vote the same person. It should be 8v1 in either direction because splitting this allows mafia to control the vote. I know it won't happen because people are stubborn egomaniacs, but that would allow town to guarantee the lynch with no bullshit shenanigans. | ||
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I don't think there was anything to be done about the VE lynch, that was always going to happen. | ||
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On March 18 2024 08:04 Vivax wrote: Rels ? Guy with god reads, but absent parked on Palmar. It‘s who you can bribe me with My problem with Rels is that he has godlike reads on everyone but me. I am egocentric, but can I be egocentric enough to think that was his entire damn strategy? Just TMI everything and tunnel me? Him just being town is a simpler explanation. But I can't guarantee it. | ||
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Maybe vote Jealous then because I'm such a nice guy? | ||
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On March 18 2024 08:09 DarthPunk wrote: Well if you are town and I am throwing the game here I’m sorry palmar. I’m heading out for my physio I will be back before the flip From each according to his ability. | ||
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On March 18 2024 08:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: HE'S GIVING YOU THEIR GAME PLAN RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF YOUR FACES LMFAO. This is why I say Palmar first Vivax. w/e I'm not rehashing that discussion again. Rofl | ||
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Massive kudos to the entire team. | ||
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On March 06 2024 08:55 Palmar wrote: I'm finalizing here. I like a bunch of mafia in: rayn jat rels mz tts then there's gonna be some mafia in the people who should be killed on policy vivax trfel hapa then there's the people that need constant monitoring and need to improve iamp marv jealous copcake slam ve and finally we have the people I have somewhere from mild to good reasons to think are town sandro oats dp dmb jls koshi None of the lists are in any particular order I don't really think Trfel will flip mafia. It's just a "I believe in people" read that he wouldn't fuck off like that as mafia with the whole "If I get lynched I get lynched" thing. But it's an objectively good lynch so I'm not going to fight it all that hard. Leaving my vote on jat. I've been burned before by placing too much faith in people not doing crazy things as mafia so it's whatever. Throw in the fact that I ended voting on JAT and I had to be bashed out of my Oats scumread by Koshi (before Oats promptly pocketing me :D ). I had a really good day 1, with the only problem, yet again, being called mafia by a bunch of townies. I really, really need to figure out how to get people to call me town. Like... if anyone actually has an idea on what I can improve on here, please share. Can you guys please stop trying to murder me every goddamn game so I can focus on actually playing. On March 18 2024 05:55 Jealous wrote: People who have never once voted for Palmar (except for himself): 12) die_meatbaby 15) Hapahauli executed day 1 18) ToTheStars killed night 2 But yeah, I personally fell into the trap that having no allies can do to you. Through days 3-5 my best allies were... JAT and DP. My play past day 1 was really bad. I ended up basically throwing my keyboard at my screen and becoming stubborn as fuck because rayn decided to not listen to me at all, then after explaining in detail why we should kill Oats I voted VE. I don't really regret the VE vote. It's sad we have to deal with townies not playing, but that's basically how mafia is. The CC lynch the next day was to me the coup that killed it for mafia. I still don't know why we did that. And I'm really unhappy with my own approach of letting DP lead the town too much. I don't question the decision of letting him live. that was mechanically required for a logical game, but there is no reason to let him just take control of the thread like that. I feel like my problem, yet again, was that I was constantly barraged by people wanting to kill me, so I never managed to establish a base of support to actively present a challenge. I had to beg people to vote for JAT on day 4, and those that did were either mafia or thought I was. I'm not making excuses. The #1 responsibility of any townie in a mafia game is to not get lynched. I failed that all important objective and my performance in this game, especially past day 1, was really bad. | ||
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On March 21 2024 19:06 DarthPunk wrote: I genuinely felt bad about lynching you. I would never lynch you as town in that spot. Definitely wasn’t gloating when I apologised, actually felt bad. All good man, you have a performance for the ages this game. Your team was great, but this one is on you. Because while JAT and MZ successfully avoided the pointy end of the stick very well, you were the one that took charge of the thread and repeatedly led town into a terrible direction. It's hard to overstate how impressive this game was. I can't think of a better mafia performance. I'm sure there are a few that rival this one, but it is definitely a HoF/top5 in the history if this site. Edit: Basically, it's one thing to avoid lynches and rely on town making mistakes. What you did here is the next level of mafia play we almost never see. I'm actually kind of looking back through some archives and stuff to find anything similar. There are bound to be some, but this was pretty stellar. | ||
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On March 21 2024 19:16 CopCake wrote: Let’s play paint mafia! Promise to play please. I really did not enjoy the antics on day 4. Self voting, martyring, threatening to be replaced basically amount to cheating. We used to have pretty strict rules about playing against your win condition. I enjoyed the bits of the game when you actually played. I absolutely hated that other part. | ||
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On March 21 2024 19:19 justanothertownie wrote: Yeah, it would be great if townies could start reading the op and stop self voting. The dumbtells this game were through the roof. It is really annoying when this is what you have to argue against as mafia. To be fair, dumbtells aren't cheating. It's perfectly legitimate to not read anything. Trick is to not read as mafia either lol | ||
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On March 21 2024 19:26 CopCake wrote: Also I didnt know sharing >~< that rayn was losing it laughing in the other room was - cheating - Yeah I didn't mind that one at all. Probably don't mention it next time, but I didn't read anything into it. | ||
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On March 21 2024 19:25 CopCake wrote: I was planning that regardless of what I roll, I will post less and wait until I get home to play on conputer. That's the thing, as long as you're producing maybe a page or two per cycle, you're doing your job. Just ignore people, that's allowed. What is annoying is getting frustrated with the game and taking it out on the rest of the people actually trying to play and enjoy it. Everyone gets frustrated. I was mad at so many points this game. Trick is just to say "fuck it, I'll try again later" instead of allowing yourself to negatively impact other player's experience. | ||
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