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On March 05 2024 07:56 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 07:51 iamperfection wrote:On March 05 2024 07:46 DarthPunk wrote:
Does anyone know why rayn thinks I am mafia? Probably because you want to make vivax mayor. Which is insane imo we have someone who already made a terrible decision and you want to give said person more power. He probably thinks your smarter then that and concluded you must be mafia to not see that. How is he getting more power? He is just immune to night kill, if he was getting a double vote for the rest of the game that is a different story. Having our jailkeeper with night kill immunity is really fucking powerful, at worst it soaks a rb for the rest of the game, at best it is just literally broken. It puts mafia in all sorts of uncomfortable positions where they are fucked if the RB gets lynched or shot. The vig shot or whatever can be negotiated, but I don't think vivax is bad as town regardless, and he is basically confirmed town. Why would I roll the dice on anyone who is NOT confirmed town. Rayn, marv and sandro are NOT confirmed town.
Lets be real here for a second. Vivax is also not confirmed town.
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On March 05 2024 07:59 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 07:58 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2024 07:56 DarthPunk wrote:On March 05 2024 07:51 iamperfection wrote:On March 05 2024 07:46 DarthPunk wrote:
Does anyone know why rayn thinks I am mafia? Probably because you want to make vivax mayor. Which is insane imo we have someone who already made a terrible decision and you want to give said person more power. He probably thinks your smarter then that and concluded you must be mafia to not see that. How is he getting more power? He is just immune to night kill, if he was getting a double vote for the rest of the game that is a different story. Having our jailkeeper with night kill immunity is really fucking powerful, at worst it soaks a rb for the rest of the game, at best it is just literally broken. It puts mafia in all sorts of uncomfortable positions where they are fucked if the RB gets lynched or shot. The vig shot or whatever can be negotiated, but I don't think vivax is bad as town regardless, and he is basically confirmed town. Why would I roll the dice on anyone who is NOT confirmed town. Rayn, marv and sandro are NOT confirmed town. Lets be real here for a second. Vivax is also not confirmed town. Wrong. CC me or go away
Nobody will CC you on day1 if you have fakeclaimed (if we even have a Jailkeeper in that case). Not unless it looks like you are actually being elected and even then I am unsure if that would be the correct play.
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On March 05 2024 08:01 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 08:00 DarthPunk wrote:On March 05 2024 07:59 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2024 07:58 DarthPunk wrote:
The fact that vivax claimed when he did is arguably bad, but now that he HAS claimed, it is just worse to not make him NK immune by voting him for mayor.
otherwise he will just get NK this night, and we lose a confirmed town.
So someone explain to me why I am the idiot in this situation? You know mayors can get lynched right bud Are we lynching vivax marv? You miss my point. You elect a nut job who kills stupid people or makes stupid decision. Or you elect someone v likely town who might actually hit mafia, and In case you elected mafia after all you can still lynch them later
Rough way to put it. But correct.
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On March 05 2024 08:04 Koshi wrote:
Do I really have to go and compare D1 reads from the past year between Vivax and rayn? I would be surprised if rayn is so much better.
I know for instance I have had some good D1 reads. Sadly enough my main suspect was often town but I was near mafia. Copcake once, DMB last game, iamp in the canceled game. I don't remember anything else though. Let alone Vivax and rayn reads.
Who cares?
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On March 05 2024 08:04 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 08:03 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2024 07:59 Vivax wrote:On March 05 2024 07:58 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2024 07:56 DarthPunk wrote:On March 05 2024 07:51 iamperfection wrote:On March 05 2024 07:46 DarthPunk wrote:
Does anyone know why rayn thinks I am mafia? Probably because you want to make vivax mayor. Which is insane imo we have someone who already made a terrible decision and you want to give said person more power. He probably thinks your smarter then that and concluded you must be mafia to not see that. How is he getting more power? He is just immune to night kill, if he was getting a double vote for the rest of the game that is a different story. Having our jailkeeper with night kill immunity is really fucking powerful, at worst it soaks a rb for the rest of the game, at best it is just literally broken. It puts mafia in all sorts of uncomfortable positions where they are fucked if the RB gets lynched or shot. The vig shot or whatever can be negotiated, but I don't think vivax is bad as town regardless, and he is basically confirmed town. Why would I roll the dice on anyone who is NOT confirmed town. Rayn, marv and sandro are NOT confirmed town. Lets be real here for a second. Vivax is also not confirmed town. Wrong. CC me or go away Nobody will CC you on day1 if you have fakeclaimed (if we even have a Jailkeeper in that case). Not unless it looks like you are actually being elected and even then I am unsure if that would be the correct play. You realize how much information I give away for free if I do this as mafia right? It's like seppuku.
No, I do not realize. What are you giving away? Worst case you get the actual blue to cc you.
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On March 05 2024 08:12 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 08:08 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2024 08:04 Vivax wrote:On March 05 2024 08:03 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2024 07:59 Vivax wrote:On March 05 2024 07:58 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2024 07:56 DarthPunk wrote:On March 05 2024 07:51 iamperfection wrote:On March 05 2024 07:46 DarthPunk wrote:
Does anyone know why rayn thinks I am mafia? Probably because you want to make vivax mayor. Which is insane imo we have someone who already made a terrible decision and you want to give said person more power. He probably thinks your smarter then that and concluded you must be mafia to not see that. How is he getting more power? He is just immune to night kill, if he was getting a double vote for the rest of the game that is a different story. Having our jailkeeper with night kill immunity is really fucking powerful, at worst it soaks a rb for the rest of the game, at best it is just literally broken. It puts mafia in all sorts of uncomfortable positions where they are fucked if the RB gets lynched or shot. The vig shot or whatever can be negotiated, but I don't think vivax is bad as town regardless, and he is basically confirmed town. Why would I roll the dice on anyone who is NOT confirmed town. Rayn, marv and sandro are NOT confirmed town. Lets be real here for a second. Vivax is also not confirmed town. Wrong. CC me or go away Nobody will CC you on day1 if you have fakeclaimed (if we even have a Jailkeeper in that case). Not unless it looks like you are actually being elected and even then I am unsure if that would be the correct play. You realize how much information I give away for free if I do this as mafia right? It's like seppuku. No, I do not realize. What are you giving away? Worst case you get the actual blue to cc you. First of all, I'd betray all of my teammates just out of the blue. The actual JK would be able to coordinate his actions better by knowing I was confirmed scum. What you're suggesting is that I'd blindly gamethrow as mafia on D1.
I wouldnt call that game throwing and weirder plays have been made. Doing it as town is arguably worse in my opinion.
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Atm Koshi might be the best candidate for mayor tbh. Even though he is obstinate as usual.
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We would have to have a serious talk about the additional kill though.
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On March 05 2024 08:21 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 08:14 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2024 08:12 Vivax wrote:On March 05 2024 08:08 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2024 08:04 Vivax wrote:On March 05 2024 08:03 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2024 07:59 Vivax wrote:On March 05 2024 07:58 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2024 07:56 DarthPunk wrote:On March 05 2024 07:51 iamperfection wrote:
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Probably because you want to make vivax mayor. Which is insane imo we have someone who already made a terrible decision and you want to give said person more power. He probably thinks your smarter then that and concluded you must be mafia to not see that. How is he getting more power? He is just immune to night kill, if he was getting a double vote for the rest of the game that is a different story. Having our jailkeeper with night kill immunity is really fucking powerful, at worst it soaks a rb for the rest of the game, at best it is just literally broken. It puts mafia in all sorts of uncomfortable positions where they are fucked if the RB gets lynched or shot. The vig shot or whatever can be negotiated, but I don't think vivax is bad as town regardless, and he is basically confirmed town. Why would I roll the dice on anyone who is NOT confirmed town. Rayn, marv and sandro are NOT confirmed town. Lets be real here for a second. Vivax is also not confirmed town. Wrong. CC me or go away Nobody will CC you on day1 if you have fakeclaimed (if we even have a Jailkeeper in that case). Not unless it looks like you are actually being elected and even then I am unsure if that would be the correct play. You realize how much information I give away for free if I do this as mafia right? It's like seppuku. No, I do not realize. What are you giving away? Worst case you get the actual blue to cc you. First of all, I'd betray all of my teammates just out of the blue. The actual JK would be able to coordinate his actions better by knowing I was confirmed scum. What you're suggesting is that I'd blindly gamethrow as mafia on D1. I wouldnt call that game throwing and weirder plays have been made. Doing it as town is arguably worse in my opinion. You'd still just sack a town JK on the first night so that says it all about the worth of your opinion. Not just yours though.
Yeah, I will not sacrifice a strong town mayor for a JK that claimed needlessly.
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On March 05 2024 08:24 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 08:23 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2024 08:21 Vivax wrote:On March 05 2024 08:14 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2024 08:12 Vivax wrote:On March 05 2024 08:08 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2024 08:04 Vivax wrote:On March 05 2024 08:03 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2024 07:59 Vivax wrote:On March 05 2024 07:58 justanothertownie wrote:
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Lets be real here for a second. Vivax is also not confirmed town. Wrong. CC me or go away Nobody will CC you on day1 if you have fakeclaimed (if we even have a Jailkeeper in that case). Not unless it looks like you are actually being elected and even then I am unsure if that would be the correct play. You realize how much information I give away for free if I do this as mafia right? It's like seppuku. No, I do not realize. What are you giving away? Worst case you get the actual blue to cc you. First of all, I'd betray all of my teammates just out of the blue. The actual JK would be able to coordinate his actions better by knowing I was confirmed scum. What you're suggesting is that I'd blindly gamethrow as mafia on D1. I wouldnt call that game throwing and weirder plays have been made. Doing it as town is arguably worse in my opinion. You'd still just sack a town JK on the first night so that says it all about the worth of your opinion. Not just yours though. Yeah, I will not sacrifice a strong town mayor for a JK that claimed needlessly. Who's town? The guy you are so sure you can read like a pro or a 100% authentic claim?
Unfortunately, there is neither in this game 
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But I think I answered that a few minutes ago.
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On March 05 2024 08:37 marvellosity wrote:
##vote: Palmar
To lynch I assume?
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On March 05 2024 08:50 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 08:50 iamperfection wrote:On March 05 2024 08:47 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2024 08:44 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2024 08:41 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2024 08:37 marvellosity wrote:
##vote: Palmar To lynch I assume? Obviously Surface level, obvious townreads without Palmar-esque reasoning behind them. Trying too hard to be funny. Mafia A solid case Best in the thread tbh
I will go with that for now. Its solid ev regardless of the involved alignments.
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On March 05 2024 17:05 marvellosity wrote:
Iamp, i take back my criticism of your VE vote. I’m not convinced but I don’t think it’s bad.
As I’m not gonna be here, doing this to make life easier.
##mayor: Vivax
Do you really think that's the play here? Or are you just being lazy? I think mafia is super happy with Vivax being the guy they cannot shoot instead of someone who can actually lead lynches on them. People here put too much stock in roles and not enough in playing the game imo. But I would expect you not to.
I would much prefer you being obv town and going for mayor.
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On March 05 2024 19:02 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 19:00 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2024 17:05 marvellosity wrote:
Iamp, i take back my criticism of your VE vote. I’m not convinced but I don’t think it’s bad.
As I’m not gonna be here, doing this to make life easier.
##mayor: Vivax Do you really think that's the play here? Or are you just being lazy? I think mafia is super happy with Vivax being the guy they cannot shoot instead of someone who can actually lead lynches on them. People here put too much stock in roles and not enough in playing the game imo. But I would expect you not to. I would much prefer you being obv town and going for mayor. Hi I forgot you existed. What are your reads please.
You will have to wait. I am at work and can't play while that's the case. Haven't even caught up fully. My vote is out there.
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On March 05 2024 19:09 JacobStrangelove wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 19:00 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2024 17:05 marvellosity wrote:
Iamp, i take back my criticism of your VE vote. I’m not convinced but I don’t think it’s bad.
As I’m not gonna be here, doing this to make life easier.
##mayor: Vivax Do you really think that's the play here? Or are you just being lazy? I think mafia is super happy with Vivax being the guy they cannot shoot instead of someone who can actually lead lynches on them. People here put too much stock in roles and not enough in playing the game imo. But I would expect you not to. I would much prefer you being obv town and going for mayor. Why is Marv obvious town over say Ray?
He isn't that's the whole issue. Both aren't.
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On March 05 2024 19:52 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 19:47 Palmar wrote:On March 05 2024 19:45 Koshi wrote:
Glad to see Palmar his Oats read be so lackluster. Makes it less easier to vote him out. I've lynched Oats for being bad town before. I'm perfectly willing to listen to ideas for other people to kill. That's good but doesn't change the fact you filtered Oats and failed to see he is playing hard. Poking at everybody; and it seems sincere as he does follow up. Also I don't like that Oats is Vivax his nr1 lynch, and that you are not putting more thought in it than "He wanted to be mayor" but didn't follow up bullshit read. Oats is the most important person right now. Or one of the most important people because our Mayor wants him dead. You should have been way more careful & thoughtful Palmar.
What happened to town gets to decide who Vivax kills? If you do not trust him to keep that promise you should switch your vote back to yourself.
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But I agree that Oats should not be the lynch today.
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On March 05 2024 20:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Rels probably town, JAT maybe mafia.
I dont understand why JAT keeps complaining about Vivax mayor but cant read anyone as town except Koshi but does nothing about Koshi getiing mayor.
Rels doesnt seem to be pushing any agenda.
On one hand I am comaining too much about Vivax mayor on the other hand I should do more to get koshi mayor. What is it now?
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Apparently people are dead set on making Vivax mayor. They cannot all be mafia even though I would bet a lot of money that mafia is on board.
The logic apparently being Vivax wouldn't make such a bad play as mafia. The disconnect here is that he did the bad play regardless of his alignment but for some reason only town can be bad in people's minds. I disagree with that but I really don't know what to do about it except for complaining and offering a better alternative which is koshi right now. What am I supposed to do in your opinion, rayn?
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