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On March 04 2024 13:11 DarthPunk wrote:
MZ could be mafia here.
That associative push with me/vivax is really out there. And usually I am the one defending him from being misylnched by all the bads. I interpreted this to be your top scumread since it seems like the strongest suspicion you have shared so far.
I'll let it play out, go ahead and do your thing I guess. But the same thing you are scumreading him for strikes me as towny.
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On March 04 2024 13:52 CopCake wrote:
Lord Trfel, Duchess meatbaby… would you like to join me for tea in this perfectly splendid day?
Unfortunately I don't drink tea, why do you ask?
@DarthPunk sorry I guess I misinterpreted what you were saying, I wasn't trying to misrepresent you. I'll let you do your thing instead of arguing over little nonsense.
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On March 04 2024 14:01 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2024 13:58 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 13:52 CopCake wrote:
Lord Trfel, Duchess meatbaby… would you like to join me for tea in this perfectly splendid day?
Unfortunately I don't drink tea, why do you ask? @DarthPunk sorry I guess I misinterpreted what you were saying, I wasn't trying to misrepresent you. I'll let you do your thing instead of arguing over little nonsense. Any thoughts of dmb/vivax/me/perfection from the past few pages? I actually like die_meatbaby's point about Vivax, it's interesting to me and makes sense. So I would lean town on her. Vivax I am not sure about, his posting feels carefree so maybe town? It feels like there is a bit of a drive to his posting, despite the slow early game. But this doesn't line up with die_meatbaby's point so I really don't know. I have no idea about you, we just think very differently and I could argue about semantics for ages. Makes it difficult. I haven't read imperfection's filter yet but my first thought is that he is the most likely mafia so far, since he has been present mostly to critique people's thoughts and hasn't seemed to show much interest in finding people's alignments.
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On March 04 2024 14:01 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2024 13:58 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 13:52 CopCake wrote:
Lord Trfel, Duchess meatbaby… would you like to join me for tea in this perfectly splendid day?
Unfortunately I don't drink tea, why do you ask? @DarthPunk sorry I guess I misinterpreted what you were saying, I wasn't trying to misrepresent you. I'll let you do your thing instead of arguing over little nonsense. Out of character: it is just set up flavour, do not take it too literal, just enjoy the chat engagement. 🥂 Sure, I won't drink any tea but I can bring some water and see where it leads.
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On March 04 2024 14:08 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2024 14:06 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 14:01 DarthPunk wrote:On March 04 2024 13:58 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 13:52 CopCake wrote:
Lord Trfel, Duchess meatbaby… would you like to join me for tea in this perfectly splendid day?
Unfortunately I don't drink tea, why do you ask? @DarthPunk sorry I guess I misinterpreted what you were saying, I wasn't trying to misrepresent you. I'll let you do your thing instead of arguing over little nonsense. Any thoughts of dmb/vivax/me/perfection from the past few pages? I actually like die_meatbaby's point about Vivax, it's interesting to me and makes sense. So I would lean town on her. Vivax I am not sure about, his posting feels carefree so maybe town? It feels like there is a bit of a drive to his posting, despite the slow early game. But this doesn't line up with die_meatbaby's point so I really don't know. I have no idea about you, we just think very differently and I could argue about semantics for ages. Makes it difficult. I haven't read imperfection's filter yet but my first thought is that he is the most likely mafia so far, since he has been present mostly to critique people's thoughts and hasn't seemed to show much interest in finding people's alignments. What about this is mafia aligned? First bold quote isn't mafia aligned. Second bold section is textbook mafia, not sure why you are asking this? Being present without actually trying to identify alignments is highly mafia motivated since you are playing for survival instead of solving the game.
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Raynpelikoneet, why do you think iamperfection is town?
I kinda think the opposite. He's been throwing side comments without getting involved or invested.
@CopCake, I agree that I am town  But more seriously, I think die_meatbaby is probably town. I still need to take another look at what DarthPunk was saying about you, it didn't make much sense to me at first though.
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On March 05 2024 01:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 01:27 Trfel wrote:
Raynpelikoneet, why do you think iamperfection is town?
I kinda think the opposite. He's been throwing side comments without getting involved or invested.
I think he is completely and utterly useless as mafia, and too lazy to form almost any reasonable trains of thoughts. I don't see it being like that here. Just look at the game that got cancelled last year for reference. Hm, maybe.... I don't really know his meta but his play feels decently scummy here. I guess I can think more about this.
I lost track, what do you think about CopCake?
I read over what DarthPunk was saying, I don't think it holds much water but I also don't really know CopCake's meta so who knows.
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On March 05 2024 01:51 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 01:49 Trfel wrote:On March 05 2024 01:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2024 01:27 Trfel wrote:
Raynpelikoneet, why do you think iamperfection is town?
I kinda think the opposite. He's been throwing side comments without getting involved or invested.
I think he is completely and utterly useless as mafia, and too lazy to form almost any reasonable trains of thoughts. I don't see it being like that here. Just look at the game that got cancelled last year for reference. Hm, maybe.... I don't really know his meta but his play feels decently scummy here. I guess I can think more about this. I lost track, what do you think about CopCake? I read over what DarthPunk was saying, I don't think it holds much water but I also don't really know CopCake's meta so who knows. I think we have played several times, no? I remember at least once, but I don't feel like I have a good grasp on how you play. That's fine, I still think you are town and I don't value meta as highly as I used to.
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On March 05 2024 02:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 01:49 Trfel wrote:
I lost track, what do you think about CopCake?
Not sure. I think DP's point #3 in his case is valid. I don't know if Cake's defense on that is townie or not. Sorry, what point is point 3? There were two posts with numbered points and I am not sure which you are referring to.
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On March 05 2024 02:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 02:06 Trfel wrote:On March 05 2024 02:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2024 01:49 Trfel wrote:
I lost track, what do you think about CopCake?
Not sure. I think DP's point #3 in his case is valid. I don't know if Cake's defense on that is townie or not. Sorry, what point is point 3? There were two posts with numbered points and I am not sure which you are referring to. Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 01:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2024 01:26 iamperfection wrote:
I'm also pretty null on dp right now too I think his point on Cake, where Cake is accusing DP of being too quiet when 50% of posts in the game are DP's, is valid. CopCake, do you have any response to this?
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Ah sorry I missed it. I thought your response was going to be that DarthPunk had been quiet tonally instead of quantity of posts. Like a lack of aggressiveness as opposed to how many posts he is making.
Will have to think about this.
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On March 05 2024 04:18 Alakaslam wrote:
Why is Oatsmaster town? Do you think he is mafia?
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On March 05 2024 04:24 Rels wrote:Look at this way of phrasing things, having to come with justification just for his vote Show nested quote +
But yes, I am gonna vote my weak scumread because if a wagon starts then I could use the way other players engage with it to start having more reads.
Am I the only one seeing this or what? Honestly it feels a bit weak to me. But he's posted so little it's just hard to say.
@Alakaslam, that wasn't really how I would characterise Oatsmaster's play, but I suppose it's up to interpretation.
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On March 05 2024 04:32 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 04:29 Trfel wrote:On March 05 2024 04:24 Rels wrote:Look at this way of phrasing things, having to come with justification just for his vote
But yes, I am gonna vote my weak scumread because if a wagon starts then I could use the way other players engage with it to start having more reads.
Am I the only one seeing this or what? Honestly it feels a bit weak to me. But he's posted so little it's just hard to say. @Alakaslam, that wasn't really how I would characterise Oatsmaster's play, but I suppose it's up to interpretation. So how do you? He just asks "why do you say that" and however honest the reply, just says "that makes no sense" unless it's someone he respects. Partly, I can get that, but have you NEVER seen aggro scum pursue mislynch opportunities? What about Oatsmaster's play has been different from that? To me he's actually seemed to care and is involved. He truly seems interested in his approach, even if that approach is a bit different from mine, it makes me think he is trying to figure out the game.
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On March 05 2024 04:38 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 04:34 Trfel wrote:On March 05 2024 04:32 Alakaslam wrote:On March 05 2024 04:29 Trfel wrote:On March 05 2024 04:24 Rels wrote:Look at this way of phrasing things, having to come with justification just for his vote
But yes, I am gonna vote my weak scumread because if a wagon starts then I could use the way other players engage with it to start having more reads.
Am I the only one seeing this or what? Honestly it feels a bit weak to me. But he's posted so little it's just hard to say. @Alakaslam, that wasn't really how I would characterise Oatsmaster's play, but I suppose it's up to interpretation. So how do you? He just asks "why do you say that" and however honest the reply, just says "that makes no sense" unless it's someone he respects. Partly, I can get that, but have you NEVER seen aggro scum pursue mislynch opportunities? What about Oatsmaster's play has been different from that? To me he's actually seemed to care and is involved. He truly seems interested in his approach, even if that approach is a bit different from mine, it makes me think he is trying to figure out the game. Caring about what exactly? Because if he cares to find actual scum, this pursuit of perfection doesn't seem to be a surefire way to me. He was not far from lynching our cop, for example, for being a bit logically inconsistent- in Oatsmaster's mind. I think Oats may suffer from some difficulty with theory of mind if he is town here, which I could relate to. In which case I would go right back from a growing SR to a TR. I'm not confident enough in my read to be interested in defending Oatsmaster here, it's just the impression I got from his posts, which could be wrong. I will say though that whether or not his play is helpful doesn't matter as much as whether or not he truly thinks it is helpful.
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My apologies, I don't have time to play today. I'll try and catch up later tonight or tomorrow.
Voting for Vivax and Palmar, I don't particularly know why, I'll try and check in to see if I need to switch votes. If I get lynched so be it.
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Yeah sorry, been dealing with some mental health issues, combined with being horrendous on day 1, has made it hard to find mafia or be very effective.
I think raynpelikoneet's play was very solid early on, he feels much more genuine than last game. It feels like he really cares about what he's doing. So I think he is town, same with marvellosity and sandroba by association. I would be very hesitant about suspecting these three. Kinda think DarthPunk is town as well, but I could be wrong.
I don't have any great scumreads unfortunately, or I would have shared them. I still don't like the way iamperfection was playing but I have vague memories of that just being his playstyle so I could be wrong.
Not sure what Vivax is doing with his "reasons" to suspect me. There are reasons I could be mafia, he managed to not find them but is very passionate about it anyway. I don't know if that means anything though.
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Also Oatsmaster is town. Please don't lynch him. Same with Alakaslam but he claimed so that's obvious.
Kinda liked CopCake too, I know she's been suspected some, not really sure why but at least early on I don't think it held much water. Just felt genuine, I don't think her unique approach is scummy at all, I actually liked her early interaction with DarthPunk and the explanation.
Sorry I don't have more.
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I would say what I said regardless of alignment, it doesn't mean anything other than I haven't had the ability to be involved
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Why is die_meatbaby mafia? I really didn't think she was suspicious at all, she seemed far more reasonable than last game. Would be very hesitant to suspect her.
May actually be worth taking another look at Vivax because he should know this.
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