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On March 13 2024 08:03 JacobStrangelove wrote:
We'll ask to mason mz for what time is left just to prove you had it I guess.
And what would that prove? Why would he lie about it? Literally no idea where this line of reasoning is going.
On March 13 2024 08:04 iamperfection wrote:
If cop is town rels has to be town I would think right? Such an uncessary play if otherwise?
Disgree. Why? If he is mafia he has to do something and if the wagons are TvT there is literally 0 cost to this.
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I mean I agree that being interested is a thing that is towny. But he certainly does not have to be town for that.
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On March 13 2024 08:17 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 08:11 justanothertownie wrote:
I mean I agree that being interested is a thing that is towny. But he certainly does not have to be town for that. It draws unnecessary attention I would think. Why not just sit back and relax
Because people are already calling him a lurker and disinterested.
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For the record - I think we should look into this pool for lynch tomorrow (no particular order):
CC
MZ
DMB
+ potentially Koshi (he fell off pretty badly since day1, maybe scum Koshi running out of juice? Could & should easily turn up the heat if he is town so some pressure here could be worth it)
I am not feeling the Palmar lynch/I don't think he is mafia.
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On March 13 2024 08:36 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 07:36 Koshi wrote:
If I would have masoned anybody. I would have masoned MZ and try to work the game out with him and see what would have happened. But I simply cba to do outside stuff and only really considered it today and somewhere once during the 48 day phase.
Believe it or not. Why Mz after Palmar masoned him.That‘s very untownlike for you over someone like DP
Wasn't it the other way around? Not that it matters. If Koshi is mafia it is not for his refusal to use the mason mechanic.
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On March 13 2024 08:41 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 08:38 justanothertownie wrote:On March 13 2024 08:36 Vivax wrote:On March 13 2024 07:36 Koshi wrote:
If I would have masoned anybody. I would have masoned MZ and try to work the game out with him and see what would have happened. But I simply cba to do outside stuff and only really considered it today and somewhere once during the 48 day phase.
Believe it or not. Why Mz after Palmar masoned him.That‘s very untownlike for you over someone like DP Wasn't it the other way around? Not that it matters. If Koshi is mafia it is not for his refusal to use the mason mechanic. What for then? Aside from the obvious lack of his usually obvious town sparkle. He‘s matte coloured this game.
Exactly for that. Isn't that enough?
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On March 13 2024 09:08 JacobStrangelove wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 08:32 justanothertownie wrote:
For the record - I think we should look into this pool for lynch tomorrow (no particular order):
CC
MZ
DMB
+ potentially Koshi (he fell off pretty badly since day1, maybe scum Koshi running out of juice? Could & should easily turn up the heat if he is town so some pressure here could be worth it)
I am not feeling the Palmar lynch/I don't think he is mafia. Why not? He wants to lynch you. Is he bussing you for an easy win? Backup your read with reasons please.
I have multiple times. If you aren't reading then I cannot help you. If this game was as easy as "everyone who wants to lynch me is mafia" then it would be quite boring, wouldn't it?
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Anyways, I am off for today.
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Btw. voting VE instead of Oats is actually something that looks bad for Palmar. It is also very obvious though.
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On March 14 2024 01:30 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 23:28 iamperfection wrote:
Palamr straight up ignored when koshi said he would vote jat with him. It's not relevant information until I actually make a choice on who I want to lynch. It is somehwat interesting that jat hasn't really commented much on what is going on today.
Yeah, having a long and stressful work day. Very interesting that is. I'll be there in maybe an hour.
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On March 13 2024 13:55 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 08:32 justanothertownie wrote:
For the record - I think we should look into this pool for lynch tomorrow (no particular order):
CC
MZ
DMB
+ potentially Koshi (he fell off pretty badly since day1, maybe scum Koshi running out of juice? Could & should easily turn up the heat if he is town so some pressure here could be worth it)
I am not feeling the Palmar lynch/I don't think he is mafia. This list is terrible and not just for the OMGUS factor, these people are lynchbait at this point and the fact that you are using this to defend Palmar is pinging me immediately. Also I very much disagree with the characterization of Koshi’s play.
Is it though? Quite a bold statement to make that these are lynchbait. Implying they are all town. Who do you think is mafia then? Palmar/Rels/me?
Do you think I would defend Palmar this openly and supposedly lazily if we were mafia together?
Someone asked for a summary of my Palmar read. I can only reiterate that Marv has a phenomenal track record of reading him. I don't. Sometimes the smart thing is to listen to someone better. Rels point about him dumbtelling is also valid. His tone is alright - I personally thought his drunken spree was quite genuine for example. I could go into his filter to collect some examples of that but it seems like a waste of time currently. I would not touch him for a few days.
If you guys are serious about lynching him I might tomorrow but he can and should defend himself (this should make his alignment easier to see too). I feel my time is better used looking for mafia, so I will do that instead.
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Which means I will have to reread some people since today I am lacking a scumread with the same level of conviction I had on day3. Koshi already looks better though. Even though he is impressively wrong.
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Jealous is someone I need to reread for sure. I kind of ignored his existence so far.
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On March 14 2024 04:14 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 08:43 Palmar wrote:
This is just random and for post-game purposes.
We actually have like 4 objectively correct lynches (that is correct from a "how to play mafia" perspective).
1) Vivax - All day 1 claimers should be policy lynched without question
2) TTS - Complete inactivity
3) Hapa - replacement and demotivation is something that happens much more often as mafia
4) Trfel - He literally is voting without having any clue why
But for various reasons I'm not really pushing any of those lynches. Guess I'm bad. Palmar didn‘t notice the guy who didn‘t post for half a day started out by claiming VT. TTS and hapa are mischaracterized. TTs played early, then fucked off. For hapa it‘s the opposite. You can interchangeably use his reasons for his TtS and Hapa verdicts. They are barely different. It‘s fake.
That is actually not a bad.
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*observation
The VT claim stuff I think does not matter at all.
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On March 14 2024 04:26 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 04:08 justanothertownie wrote:
Jealous is someone I need to reread for sure. I kind of ignored his existence so far. This is the problem with you. We have had 4 confirmed town since forever, a town looking CC after town!VE flipped, and last night you were just happy holding the status quo with Palmar town. You are not doing PoE and actively finding mafia. You are just waiting and reacting. Thinking you can adapt to the new situations when they come. But you have no list in your head who you PoEd is mafia. After the VE flip the world was on its head. But not for Palmar & you. You do this as your first post after a huge shocker: Show nested quote +On March 12 2024 19:54 justanothertownie wrote:
Marv did not say palmar is mafia. He strongly called him town. How are you all getting this wrong. VEs case was also not very good.
I really love how you put your own name in the list of people who read him mafia though. Defending Palmar against a confirmed town. And now you go for the too scummy to be scum together defense?
Why should I care if it is a confirmed town I am defending Palmar against? That makes absolutely no sense. And I literally posted a PoE list yesterday so you can get the fuck out with that nonsense as well.
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On March 14 2024 04:26 Koshi wrote:
I laugh at you JAT
That's great!
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On March 14 2024 04:30 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 04:28 Koshi wrote:On March 12 2024 12:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Man what the fuck.
This game is going to be extremely hard if townies are gonna self-vote, I feel like that's playing against your wincon. I absolutely hate martyring so pointlessly. I think that was still 100% the right lynch.
And now we're gonna have to solve the copcake problem since she did exactly the same thing. She voted herself and peaced out when the vote was 7-4 with VE in the lead. Her vote made it 6-5, still with VE in the lead. She showed no problems with leaving her vote on randos the previous two days, and if she was scum, she had a safe place to park her vote on VE or a rando as nobody would have scumread her any harder than they already were for voting to save herself. Now granted, she didn't hammer herself, the closest she ever got was 7-6 against her 2 hours later. So, did town!cake just rage quit in the exact same manner that VE did? Or did scum!cake take a gamble, not realizing how close it was going to get? If it's the second option, Rel's desperation to save her pretty much guarantees him as scum in my eyes, but I still don't know if I can wrap my head around scum!cake doing that because the vote is so close I'd argue that's pretty close to intentionally throwing. Or maybe it's all #bigplays that I'm too stupid to understand.
I have a decent amount of thread to fully catch up on after just skimming to get through it, I focused more on the voting thread to try and figure out wtf both VE and cake were doing. I'm not surprised to see there were more shenanigans by certain people. I will also have a go at reading VE's filter although idk if there's much of a point. What a town hero does. Analyse. I kind of disagree. Feel like he just summed up what happened and listed every scenario. I don't think it's super town post.
You won't convince him. At this point Koshi is not reading MZs posts critically anymore.
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On March 14 2024 04:32 Koshi wrote:This wasnt his first post but this is what JAT/Palmar had to do: Show nested quote +On March 12 2024 15:09 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Yeah mafia is Palmer, Koshi, easy not sure on last
Cc is town because playing so drastically against win con as scum when you know ve is town is dumb.
It was scummy before but now we know VE is town Cc is town.
Unless we lynch Palmer and he flips town then it's cc rels and still not sure on last.
I like jealous and mz, Jat in that order of townness.
What do I have to do because he likes me?
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On March 14 2024 04:36 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 04:32 justanothertownie wrote:On March 14 2024 04:30 iamperfection wrote:On March 14 2024 04:28 Koshi wrote:On March 12 2024 12:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Man what the fuck.
This game is going to be extremely hard if townies are gonna self-vote, I feel like that's playing against your wincon. I absolutely hate martyring so pointlessly. I think that was still 100% the right lynch.
And now we're gonna have to solve the copcake problem since she did exactly the same thing. She voted herself and peaced out when the vote was 7-4 with VE in the lead. Her vote made it 6-5, still with VE in the lead. She showed no problems with leaving her vote on randos the previous two days, and if she was scum, she had a safe place to park her vote on VE or a rando as nobody would have scumread her any harder than they already were for voting to save herself. Now granted, she didn't hammer herself, the closest she ever got was 7-6 against her 2 hours later. So, did town!cake just rage quit in the exact same manner that VE did? Or did scum!cake take a gamble, not realizing how close it was going to get? If it's the second option, Rel's desperation to save her pretty much guarantees him as scum in my eyes, but I still don't know if I can wrap my head around scum!cake doing that because the vote is so close I'd argue that's pretty close to intentionally throwing. Or maybe it's all #bigplays that I'm too stupid to understand.
I have a decent amount of thread to fully catch up on after just skimming to get through it, I focused more on the voting thread to try and figure out wtf both VE and cake were doing. I'm not surprised to see there were more shenanigans by certain people. I will also have a go at reading VE's filter although idk if there's much of a point. What a town hero does. Analyse. I kind of disagree. Feel like he just summed up what happened and listed every scenario. I don't think it's super town post. You won't convince him. At this point Koshi is not reading MZs posts critically anymore. COOL STORY BRO When are those reads coming? Are you guys already finished organising a come back or is it this? Ignore & deflect
It is good to have town Koshi back in this game.
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