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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16340 Posts
March 12 2024 11:50 GMT
#7096
On March 12 2024 20:17 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2024 19:20 justanothertownie wrote:
There probably never were a lot of mafia players on Palmar.


Why do you say that?

Have a look at the wagon?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16340 Posts
March 12 2024 12:53 GMT
#7107
On March 12 2024 20:55 iamperfection wrote:
So jat is palmar scum? You diminished the case but it wasn't super clear if you disagreed with the whole thing.

I have said multiple times now that I think he is probably town. I trust Marvs ability to read him over my own and he said he is 90 % town.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16340 Posts
March 12 2024 12:54 GMT
#7108
But he can defend himself if he is town. He is a big, very important boy.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16340 Posts
March 12 2024 13:36 GMT
#7122
On March 12 2024 22:32 Palmar wrote:
ez maths

Yep. As someone who is really good at math I can confirm.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16340 Posts
March 12 2024 13:50 GMT
#7123
On March 12 2024 19:59 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2024 19:54 justanothertownie wrote:
Marv did not say palmar is mafia. He strongly called him town. How are you all getting this wrong. VEs case was also not very good.

I really love how you put your own name in the list of people who read him mafia though.


In which world do you live now?

You do not have to make big reads just who do you think is more town.


What are the worlds btw? I am aware that I have too many town or townish reads. Without having reread I would probably go for dmb or maybe MZ next.
Maybe we also need to flip you since some people I think are town feel so strongly about that and it would give us insight into day3. My first task should probably be making up my mind about that.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16340 Posts
March 12 2024 16:03 GMT
#7139
On March 13 2024 00:04 Koshi wrote:
JAT that is the laziest shit ever. So if Palmar fooled marv after being scumread by marv and having to try to fool him, we are never going to revisit that?

Poor play by JAT.

I am also very concerned Palmar just takes it and runs with it.

We should check how many meaningful conversations Palmar and JAT have had in these 350 pages.

It absolutely is lazy. But it is the best play in my opinion. Feel free to try and convince me he is mafia if you think he is that strongly but I think it is rather weird how little respect you give to marv here. I mean your whole shtick this game is to sheep dead townies. Rayn thought palmar is mafia, yes. But who has the best record of reading him?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16340 Posts
March 12 2024 16:06 GMT
#7142
And I will of course revisit this if we are getting closer to lylo. We aren't though.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16340 Posts
March 12 2024 16:14 GMT
#7150
On March 13 2024 00:10 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2024 21:14 CopCake wrote:
Why am I town, Koshi?


Same reason here. He just give me Townreads because of MZ
You get Townreads without any explanation from him.
There are always reason why you Townread somebody.
That hole Koshi thing in this game just feels like a bit lazy mafia...

Still criticizing me for lazy townreada like a boss.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16340 Posts
March 12 2024 16:51 GMT
#7160
On March 13 2024 01:24 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2024 01:14 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 13 2024 00:10 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 12 2024 21:14 CopCake wrote:
Why am I town, Koshi?


Same reason here. He just give me Townreads because of MZ
You get Townreads without any explanation from him.
There are always reason why you Townread somebody.
That hole Koshi thing in this game just feels like a bit lazy mafia...

Still criticizing me for lazy townreada like a boss.

that was on koshi. I know him that is suspect for him

I was also talking about Koshi.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16340 Posts
March 12 2024 18:02 GMT
#7165
Koshi, please explain how this:
On March 12 2024 17:05 Koshi wrote:
Ok. Game is still very interesting.
I am glad iamp decided to go for VE because that position was unholdable.

We blame rayn, marv and sandroba for this one.


Next.


As palmar said. This is just the first lynch in a mini. No need to worry.


I think I actually connected with Jealous yesterday. So I dont scum read him anymore.

I really have to rethink MZ. If our alliance should continue.


JAT & Rels. So difficult.

Palmar (((

I'll probably will be under fire more and more. Which is fine. Really fun game. Mafia is doing well.

Became this:
On March 12 2024 17:26 Koshi wrote:
Rels Jealous and MZ
I think Jealous and I were both equally flabbergasted by what was happening yesterday. Should be a good basis to build on comming days.
I have a nagging feeling Rels is mafia since the start. It is that or he is playing quasi perfect and that sits bad. I should reread him for sure but my gut says to look here.
MZ and I are friends now. It is just easier for me if I dont have to think about dmb. MZ pleading to me to look into CC felt townie.

On March 12 2024 21:06 Koshi wrote:
Palmar/JAT/Rels then.
Maybe dmb but I trust my man MZ.

On March 13 2024 02:16 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2024 01:46 Vivax wrote:
Just waiting for Koshi to townread him so we get the okay from flight control

Funny. But he is my ally. No questions asked.

With nothing in between. You are taking 2 people who I could see being mafia from the table for very flimsy reasoning. Was there a great reevaluation which you did not tell us? Or did you just forget you were supposed to rethink this?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16340 Posts
March 12 2024 18:05 GMT
#7167
I would like to hear the reasons for this "alliance". I mean I already know the dmb reasoning is terrible because it just part of a deal. But at least reason out the read on MZ please.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16340 Posts
March 12 2024 18:07 GMT
#7168
On March 13 2024 03:04 CopCake wrote:
The case of interest to me is TTS
- inactive
- doesnt care
- tfrel is better lynch because - reasons - even if he posted better.

Yet
- VE was the wagon vs Oatmaster
- wasnt he a political lynch option? (TTS)
- why give the privilege to live TTS than your town coolest neighbor VE? Specially if you enjoy to play with him?

Besides
- his imminent dead was announced (TTS)
- mafia goon
- VE getting lynched for inactivity while TTS is in the same position
- Killing - me - would had been better and understandable.



Let's be honest - there were very good reasons to lynch VE. It was not a policy lynch.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16340 Posts
March 12 2024 18:38 GMT
#7172
On March 13 2024 03:35 iamperfection wrote:
I have been reading old palmar games and i may have confirmation bias but in general i would say he is a tad more aggressive as town and certainly more invested i would say. I would say palmar hasnt been that invested and has certainly been more passive which is more similar to his scum games.

also as an aside

https://tl.net/forum/mafia/479775-xxx-mini-mafia-a-night-of-debauchery-18?user=Palmar

This game is insane and has marv rayn and palmar at endgame and i have no memory of it lol.

Not my proudest moment.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16340 Posts
March 12 2024 18:38 GMT
#7173
On March 13 2024 03:37 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2024 03:05 justanothertownie wrote:
I would like to hear the reasons for this "alliance". I mean I already know the dmb reasoning is terrible because it just part of a deal. But at least reason out the read on MZ please.

I think he is town.

Very helpful. Not lazy at all. Maybe I should look into your interactions to see if you are mafia together?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16340 Posts
March 12 2024 19:51 GMT
#7185
On March 13 2024 04:47 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2024 04:35 Koshi wrote:
On March 13 2024 04:14 iamperfection wrote:
On March 13 2024 04:00 Koshi wrote:
On March 13 2024 03:40 Vivax wrote:
On March 13 2024 03:35 Koshi wrote:
On March 13 2024 03:02 justanothertownie wrote:
Koshi, please explain how this:
On March 12 2024 17:05 Koshi wrote:
Ok. Game is still very interesting.
I am glad iamp decided to go for VE because that position was unholdable.

We blame rayn, marv and sandroba for this one.


Next.


As palmar said. This is just the first lynch in a mini. No need to worry.


I think I actually connected with Jealous yesterday. So I dont scum read him anymore.

I really have to rethink MZ. If our alliance should continue.


JAT & Rels. So difficult.

Palmar (((

I'll probably will be under fire more and more. Which is fine. Really fun game. Mafia is doing well.

Became this:
On March 12 2024 17:26 Koshi wrote:
Rels Jealous and MZ
I think Jealous and I were both equally flabbergasted by what was happening yesterday. Should be a good basis to build on comming days.
I have a nagging feeling Rels is mafia since the start. It is that or he is playing quasi perfect and that sits bad. I should reread him for sure but my gut says to look here.
MZ and I are friends now. It is just easier for me if I dont have to think about dmb. MZ pleading to me to look into CC felt townie.

On March 12 2024 21:06 Koshi wrote:
Palmar/JAT/Rels then.
Maybe dmb but I trust my man MZ.

On March 13 2024 02:16 Koshi wrote:
On March 13 2024 01:46 Vivax wrote:
Just waiting for Koshi to townread him so we get the okay from flight control

Funny. But he is my ally. No questions asked.

With nothing in between. You are taking 2 people who I could see being mafia from the table for very flimsy reasoning. Was there a great reevaluation which you did not tell us? Or did you just forget you were supposed to rethink this?

I did. And we are still friends.


Sounds like one of you/Mz got the unclaimed whisperer.
Inexplicably sad today. Is it one of you

It was me. I cba with that.

you didnt use it?

No. I didnt.
I didnt have anything to say outside the thread.

i dont understand your thinking at all on this. I understand even less why you would admit to it.

Yeah? I am 100 % with him on that tbh.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16340 Posts
March 12 2024 20:09 GMT
#7187
On March 13 2024 05:06 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2024 12:50 Trfel wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
Trefel do you want to be mayor?
Sorry I completely missed this somehow.

I wouldn't mind being mayor, I think one advantage of me theoretically being mayor is that I am generally obvious town. I think it's very dangerous to nominate someone like Holyflare as mayor, since he has an extremely terrifying scum game capability, and giving them the extra protection is dangerous. Unfortunately I'm pretty garbage as mafia, and I think someone with a bad scum game is a good choice for mayor.

However, I also am garbage at day 1's. Like DarthPunk, I don't think campaigning for mayor makes much sense, if people want to vote for me they can, I'm not going to worry too much about it.
@DarthPunk, why don't you like Oatsmaster? I just read through his filter and it actually seems reasonable to me.



This is so weird, why did oatmaster ask Tfrel to be mayor?

Why is that interesting in your opinion? They are both dead.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16340 Posts
March 12 2024 20:35 GMT
#7190
On March 13 2024 05:34 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2024 05:16 CopCake wrote:
On March 13 2024 05:09 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 13 2024 05:06 CopCake wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:50 Trfel wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
Trefel do you want to be mayor?
Sorry I completely missed this somehow.

I wouldn't mind being mayor, I think one advantage of me theoretically being mayor is that I am generally obvious town. I think it's very dangerous to nominate someone like Holyflare as mayor, since he has an extremely terrifying scum game capability, and giving them the extra protection is dangerous. Unfortunately I'm pretty garbage as mafia, and I think someone with a bad scum game is a good choice for mayor.

However, I also am garbage at day 1's. Like DarthPunk, I don't think campaigning for mayor makes much sense, if people want to vote for me they can, I'm not going to worry too much about it.
@DarthPunk, why don't you like Oatsmaster? I just read through his filter and it actually seems reasonable to me.



This is so weird, why did oatmaster ask Tfrel to be mayor?

Why is that interesting in your opinion? They are both dead.


Because it was out of nowhere.

There must be a reason.

Why is analyzing the interactions of the dead players bad? Ofc I am also seeing how Tfrel reacted to others but this pinged me in the wrong way.





Seems like a throw away line scum can make to seem like they are participating but actually do nothing. Trfel would never be made mayor.

Exactly.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16340 Posts
March 12 2024 21:12 GMT
#7199
On March 13 2024 06:06 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2024 03:02 justanothertownie wrote:
Koshi, please explain how this:
On March 12 2024 17:05 Koshi wrote:
Ok. Game is still very interesting.
I am glad iamp decided to go for VE because that position was unholdable.

We blame rayn, marv and sandroba for this one.


Next.


As palmar said. This is just the first lynch in a mini. No need to worry.


I think I actually connected with Jealous yesterday. So I dont scum read him anymore.

I really have to rethink MZ. If our alliance should continue.


JAT & Rels. So difficult.

Palmar (((

I'll probably will be under fire more and more. Which is fine. Really fun game. Mafia is doing well.

Became this:
On March 12 2024 17:26 Koshi wrote:
Rels Jealous and MZ
I think Jealous and I were both equally flabbergasted by what was happening yesterday. Should be a good basis to build on comming days.
I have a nagging feeling Rels is mafia since the start. It is that or he is playing quasi perfect and that sits bad. I should reread him for sure but my gut says to look here.
MZ and I are friends now. It is just easier for me if I dont have to think about dmb. MZ pleading to me to look into CC felt townie.

On March 12 2024 21:06 Koshi wrote:
Palmar/JAT/Rels then.
Maybe dmb but I trust my man MZ.

On March 13 2024 02:16 Koshi wrote:
On March 13 2024 01:46 Vivax wrote:
Just waiting for Koshi to townread him so we get the okay from flight control

Funny. But he is my ally. No questions asked.

With nothing in between. You are taking 2 people who I could see being mafia from the table for very flimsy reasoning. Was there a great reevaluation which you did not tell us? Or did you just forget you were supposed to rethink this?


Good post

If we lynch dmb and she flips scum Koshi needs to be looked at again. In this setup, he just clears her by association without having to interact with her or even assess her play at all. But I guess MZ would have to be town for that.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16340 Posts
March 12 2024 21:19 GMT
#7201
On March 13 2024 06:16 DarthPunk wrote:
I’m just assuming cake is town now.
You all can deal with her at mylo I don’t care anymore

May I ask what caused this drastic change? I really don't get it. That goes for everyone else who was so sure about this too.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16340 Posts
March 12 2024 21:52 GMT
#7207
On March 13 2024 06:44 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2024 06:19 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 13 2024 06:16 DarthPunk wrote:
I’m just assuming cake is town now.
You all can deal with her at mylo I don’t care anymore

May I ask what caused this drastic change? I really don't get it. That goes for everyone else who was so sure about this too.


What's difficult to understand about it.

She was going against a town wagon, who was hammered. Unfortunate if she is mafia but no reason to change read or conviction. Is this the whole emo *you will not lynch her when I am dead* thing again?
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