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JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
March 12 2024 06:10 GMT
#7044
Perfection is less perfect now tbh. Do is frustrated enough to be town.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
March 12 2024 06:11 GMT
#7045
On March 12 2024 13:46 DarthPunk wrote:
Just fucking lynch copcake.

My god why is this so hard/



No tbh yes she looked scummy before the flip bit ironically looks better after it.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
March 12 2024 06:35 GMT
#7047
On March 12 2024 15:23 Jealous wrote:
Can you elaborate on why CC is town now that VE is town? Because instead of taking the easy dogpile on the wagon, she voted for herself?


I mean yeah that is pretty much it tbh. In the situation where be and cc are scum they might be helpless and both self vote and be sad in qt right?

But they aren't, game isn't hopeless, at least two hidden or semi hidden scum out there.

Cupcake would have at least the most basic social requirement to them to hold on slightly longer so they have more chance of winning.

Hence cc is town who feels they are playing solo and depressed.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
March 12 2024 08:20 GMT
#7054
On March 12 2024 16:13 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2024 15:35 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On March 12 2024 15:23 Jealous wrote:
Can you elaborate on why CC is town now that VE is town? Because instead of taking the easy dogpile on the wagon, she voted for herself?


I mean yeah that is pretty much it tbh. In the situation where be and cc are scum they might be helpless and both self vote and be sad in qt right?

But they aren't, game isn't hopeless, at least two hidden or semi hidden scum out there.

Cupcake would have at least the most basic social requirement to them to hold on slightly longer so they have more chance of winning.

Hence cc is town who feels they are playing solo and depressed.


Why does that not also make sense if they are maf v maf?



Because VE flipped town. It did make sense hence why we voted them. Or doesn't make sense as mvt
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
March 12 2024 08:45 GMT
#7060
On March 12 2024 17:32 Koshi wrote:
JAT/Rels/dmb for me now.

Trying to read dead townies brought me nowhere.


Honestly if not you and Palmer. It might be rels palmer idk Jat.

Either way I'm going to do Palmer's Strat and vote for most scummy only which is him.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
March 12 2024 09:52 GMT
#7068
On March 12 2024 18:35 Vivax wrote:
Ima scratch that actually.

JS fakeclaimed gunsmith, pretended to give gun to mafia vig DP.

Everyone thinks Js is town now so he is semi-checked out, DP shoots lazy teammate. Oats is thrown to the wolves to placate the thirst for blood of the town.

DMB gets NDAd in scumchat so she stops bussing every teammate (she was tunneled on Oats DP and they tunneled her back at some point)


I like the moxy but why are DP and I constantly on the right lynch though?
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
March 12 2024 09:53 GMT
#7069
On March 12 2024 18:51 CopCake wrote:
But I will let what you posted Vivax to be discussed by somebody else.

I don’t want to go that alley.

If I could lynch someone, would be Palmar.


Yes, lets all lynch Palmer I'm going to fight for this tonight and make a town case so Solid it'll suvive 48 hours of IamPerfection Wifoming himself.

JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
March 12 2024 09:53 GMT
#7070
Last week on Grackville house, a very short summary

*news reporter voice*

We’re here at the scene of a conspiracy about half the guests of this party have died or fell ill under mysterious circumstances. We’re hearing that just last night a reputable Colonel Stars sleep walked into a paranoid Lord DP’s bedroom and was shot with a newly furnished Musket.

EX Detective LT Slam was called to the scene but did not show up. He was also found murdered in his bed with his notes on fellow guests.

Speculation into these murders leads us to believe a murder suicide cult may be behind it all.

Recently much discussion on who was to blame for the murders took place. It was decided there was to be a toast then a duel to the death between the two front runners VE and Duchess Cake.


*fade to black*

*Mysterious voice overheard talking to VE

Never fear you won’t have to fight Duchess Cake, I have put a pellet of poison in one of the vessels.

Ve “Which one?”

Mysterious voice: “The one with the figure of a pestle”

VE “The Vessel with the pestle?”

“Yes but you don’t want the vessel with the pestle, you want the chalice from the palace.”

VE : I don't want the vessel with the pestle, I want the chalice from... the what?

Jean : The chalice from the palace!

VE : Hmmm?

Mysterious Voice: : It's a little crystal chalice with a figure of a palace.

VE : The chalice from the palace has the pellet with the poison?

Mysterious Voice: : No, the pellet with the poison's in the vessel with the pestle.

VE : Oh, oh, the pestle with the vessel.

Mysterious Voice:: The vessel with the pestle.

VE : What about the palace from the chalice?

Mysterious Voice: : Not the palace from the chalice! The chalice from the palace!

VE : Where's the pellet with the poison?

Mysterious Voice: : In the vessel with the pestle. The chalice from the palace has the brew that is true.

Meanwhile copcake overhears the conversation from the side.


As the time comes and both walk towards the wine cups they both run desperate to drink from the Vessel with the Pestle. VE gets there first drinks it and dies. On him is a note saying “With my death you’ll all be free to find the true criminals his last words say Lord Koshi and and Marquess Palmer are part of the cult, he saw it in a dream. Duchess CopCake sits and pouts about living in a world with Lord DP where he is confirmed to be killing the Cult members.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
March 12 2024 10:30 GMT
#7080
The case for Palmer being Scum.

Point Number 1.

He thought I was town early on, That’s sus as fuck nobody ever thinks I’m town when I’m town.

2.

Marv, Trfel, Slam, VE, JSL, all confirmed town thought he was scum.

3.

He posts lots of “Hey guys this is the right policy play guys this is great Mafia advice, Oh actually scum hunting? Naw lets only do policy and correct TM play moves” Like in the last day or so he’s basically only just done mild oh these guys are all still scummy vaguely in a pile for… reasons… yes so keep them in mind to lynch when I’m still alive day 6 and it’s lylo.

4.

He’s sheeping DP hard and DP is falling for it because DP likes being called smart.

5.

He’s always on the “wrong” lynch target/the target that doesn’t get lynched.

Day one

On March 06 2024 11:58 Grackaroni wrote:
Day One Vote Count

Mayor

Vivax (13): raynpelikoneet, Rels, Vivax, DarthPunk, die_meatbaby, Koshi, Alakaslam, JacobStrangelove, Meapak_Ziphh, marvellosity, Palmar, Jealous, Trfel, sandroba
raynpelikoneet (3): JacobStrangelove, Alakaslam, raynpelikoneet, Iamperfection, raynpelikoneet, VisceraEyes
Oatsmaster (1): Oatsmaster
Koshi (1): Koshi, justanothertownie


Not Voting (3): CopCake, Hapahauli, ToTheStars

With 13 votes, Vivax is currently set to be elected!

Lynch

Trfel (11): iamperfection, Vivax, DarthPunk, JacobStrangelove, Alakaslam, Justanothertownie, Vivax, marvellosity, Koshi, VisceraEyes, Vivax, Jealous, DarthPunk, JacobStrangelove, sandroba
Justanothertownie (6): sandroba, Palmar, DarthPunk, Vivax, DarthPunk, JacobStrangelove, Vivax, Oatsmaster, die_meatbaby, Trfel, Rels, Meapak_Ziphh, Oatsmaster
Palmar (1) : marvellosity, justanothertownie, Alakaslam, sandroba, DarthPunk, Rels Koshi, raynpelikoneet, Trfel
JacobStrangelove (1): CopCake, DarthPunk
die_meatbaby (0): Oatsmaster, Oatsmaster, sandroba, DarthPunk
CopCake (0): Oatsmaster, DarthPunk, Meapak_Ziphh
ToTheStars (0): Rels, CopCake, JacobStrangelove, Vivax
Hapahauli (0): Alakaslam
VisceraEyes (0): iamperfection, sandroba, Vivax, Oatsmaster
DarthPunk (0) : raynpelikoneet
iamperfection (0): DarthPunk
Koshi (0) : JacobStrangelove, Oatsmaster, sandroba
raynpelikoneet (0) : DarthPunk
Alakaslam (0) Oatsmaster, CopCake
Vivax (0): Alakaslam
Oatsmaster (0) : Vivax, VisceraEyes, DarthPunk


Not Voting(2): Hapahauli, ToTheStars

With 8 votes, Trfel is currently set to be lynched!

Let me know if you see any votes misplaced

The deadline is Wednesday, Mar 06 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in




Oh what’s this? Was never on Oats, was never on TTS, went on JAT but wasn’t on the main lynch, does he know they are both town? Only ever voted one person and stayed there.


On March 09 2024 11:51 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Two Vote Count

Oatsmaster (9): Alakaslam, Jealous, JacobStrangelove, Rels, Meapak_Ziphh, iamperfection, DarthPunk, die_meatbaby, CopCake, Justanothertownie, ToTheStars, Koshi, marvellosity, JacobStrangelove, Alakaslam
VisceraEyes (7): Koshi, Oatsmaster, iamperfection, Vivax, Palmar, Alakaslam, Meapak_Ziphh, iamperfection, CopCake
Palmar (0): Oatsmaster, CopCake, iamperfection, JacobStrangelove, CopCake
Jealous (0): CopCake
Justanothertownie (0): Vivax, Oatsmaster
ToTheStars (0): iamperfection, Oatsmaster
marvellosity (0): Vivax
die_meatbaby (0): Oatsmaster
VisceraEyes (0): iamperfection
CopCake (0): Jealous

Not Voting (1): VisceraEyes

With 9 votes, Oatsmaster is currently set to be lynched!

The deadline is Saturday, Mar 09 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in




Oh what’s this? Oatsmaster has a confirmed red check? Never on him. Not even once, decisively counter meta. Blatantly so. Nearly the entire game was on Oats at one point and sure some changed but Palmer? No… not the red check? Can’t vote them ever… no doubt in his mind he’s not voting Oats.

Only on VE.

On March 12 2024 11:01 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Three Vote Count

VisceraEyes (7): Rels, Justanothertownie, Koshi, Palmar, Vivax, iamperfection, Meapak_Ziphh, DarthPunk, Vivax, VisceraEyes, die_meatbaby, Vivax, iamperfection
CopCake (6): Jealous, DarthPunk, iamperfection, Vivax, die_meatbaby, VisceraEyes, CopCake, JacobStrangelove, DarthPunk, iamperfection, CopCake, die_meatbaby, Vivax
Meapak_Ziphh (0): Vivax, Vivax
Palmar (0): VisceraEyes, CopCake
Jealous (0): Vivax
DarthPunk (0): Vivax

With 7 votes, VisceraEyes is lynched!


What’s this? Is this Palmer once again on VE only with not a single other vote? Man it’s so townie to never doubt your read ever because why would you if you know they’re all town?

What? You mean the counter wagon to the confirmed red check that almost got lynched even when the other person had a red check? No they can’t be town they must be scum. Can’t do association cases until people flip Palmer keeps saying that, can’t do association cases after people flip either because Uhhh you’ll find scum that way we don’t want that!

My man has never once voted for scum in this game. Not even accidentally. My man has never even gotten close to voting for scum in this game.

On March 11 2024 20:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2024 20:12 Palmar wrote:
On March 06 2024 06:47 Palmar wrote:
Btw the wagon on me is so bad.

marv is probably just mafia
jat has literally no reason to think I am, and is probably mafia anyway.
Trfel has literally no reason to think I am
Slam is slam
Koshi has thought I am mafia every game for 10+ years. I think he just enjoys murdering me.

The only standout is DP


Wow, the wagon on me on day 1 was so pure :D

Wasn't it just?

Palmar is almost certainly mafia here. Marv thought so. Rayn thought so. They're both dead to night kills. Palmar as town reviles playing with me, so him wanting me more active in this game bodes poorly for all of you given I'm going out first. He doesn't have fun WITH me, he has fun USING me, and he's salty I haven't given him ammo to do so until now. He voted for me instead of Oats even though he had a town read on me and a scum read on Oats D1. Pretty damning in hindsight, considering Oats was red checked AND was the framer.

His filter is all over the place as you'd expect, but there are some nuggets in there. There's this one post locking koshi as town for calling the framer town on D1. As if that's not something mafia are EXPECTED to do. I'm sure he has some reasonable sounding logic, like towncasing is as bad as mafcasing because it invites scrutiny regardless. But he conveniently refuses to factor in that A) it's Koshi and B) we're all big boys and girls and stuff here.

There's also a tendency to do mafia-ish things in his posts that I probably just dislike in general...but he does stuff like subtly fearmonger and appeal to peoples' insecurities. I've seen him do it as town but it's his bread and butter as mafia.

Palmar is probably Mafia Palmar, and frankly he's probably going to win.

I'm actually stopping here for now guys, I have tabs open with MZ iamp and CopCake filters, I had intended to do them tonight - I had actually intended for these all to be in one post - but when I found 2 mafia in Koshi/Palmar I figured the last one can wait. Especially given one of those people is the counterwagon to me and at this point I actually just WANT CopCake to be mafia so I can say the mafia tried to lynch me all game and couldn't - so I'll probably start with CC tomorrow. I HOPE she's mafia but that would be maybe too easy from my perspective.


May I present reason number 6.

Confirmed town VE’s case on Palmer.

Reason number 7.

On March 12 2024 00:54 Palmar wrote:
By the way I think CC should not be lynched and have a slight townread. I understand the waffling and self-doubt and giving up can be faked, but it still is more likely to come from town than scum.

I also think dmb sounds a lot more reasonable this game than last game.

For one reason or another, I'm not really considering the following people right now:

dp
jls
koshi
cc
dmb
vivax

Then there's like two people I just need to actually get off my ass and read

jealous
iamp
rels

and then there's the people I actively think could be mafia

jat
mz
ve

Remember, to me I'm really thinking about the game as a "day 1" situation where we have plenty of time and mislynches left. I am not really questioning weaker townreads and tinfoil theories at the moment, there is no need to.


Yo JAT, MZ, you are next in his firing line? If you are town fucking vote him maybe? Don’t let him kill you too.

Rels Iamp Jealous? Are any of you town? Do you want to be next? If you’re town in this I bet at least one of you is his scum buddy so he won’t be voting them it’ll be you that dies when Mafia needs another lynch.


Koshi, cc, dmb

He’s not considering you, yay you’re safe from Mafia killing you! After all he needs you on side to kill the others. But look at the post again, were there any reasons behind his reads in this list post? Nope nothing there at all backing up his reads. You are simply Palmers tool of destruction against your fellow town.

8. Fear is the mindkiller, Victory favours the bold

Fear not friends we can brave this new day. We can kill the Evil that lurks in this town, Fear not men and women of Grackville! We will triumph and see a new dawn, we will see a new day where fear does not run this town! If ever you fear death, if you ever are presented with a hammer do stay the course and run this vagabond out of town.










While I may die for giving my reads before the night ends I have faith you will execute my will and testament. I fear not death from gunshot nor inability to play and win I trust the town I see before me.

Do not fear, and do not doubt IamPerfection, Do not waver in spirit as yesterdays lynch was likely TvT all is forgiven, if you stay on the path of righteousness.


MZ, Master case poster, Realiser that you alone can absolve your past misdeeds and solve the game.

Vivax: Glorious Mayor, Trust in your town, do not let paranoia ruin your mind we are men of metal. Trust in me, Trust in DP trust in Town. Execute the Pretender.

JAT: Man of the people Targeted by Palmer the bringer of Doom. I have faith in you. I believe. You can make the right choice.

Jealous: My beloved child. One who fights to find scum and has earned my respect. Stay the course Kill the Vile being.

DMB: This Palmer dude likes clowns. He must die.

CC: Battered child, Ignore DP, even if he survives the night, don’t listen to his read on you listen to my read on you, I see now with VE being Town it’s likely you are both town. The agent of destruction has been revealed to us. It was Palmer all along.

Rels: I’ll be honest I ain’t so sure on you but I am so sure on Palmer so like idk kill him.

Koshi: You are either mafia or the antichrist has clouded your sight. Just like. Idk think about it let him die.

DP: No seriously he’s saying “the right thing” and getting the wrong result every time. Just like think about it you don’t want to be tricked by him sheeping your right? You would look like totally dumb if he sheeped you to a win.

My friends my fellow’s my brothers. If I die tonight fear not. With every post Palmer makes ignore it! Chant DEATH TO THE PRETENDER! DEATH TO THE HERETIC! DEATH TO PALMER!

If he suggests a wagon do not think do not feel chant! DEATH TO THE PRETENDER! DEATH TO THE HERETIC! DEATH TO PALMER!

If you feel your soul wavering fear not trust in the chant, believe in the chant. DOWN WITH THE PRETENDER! DEATH TO THE HERETIC! DEATH TO PALMER!

If I die I leave this in your hands. I need at least one page in your filter each dedicated to the chat when morning breaks. Over 48 hours it isn’t unreasonable.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
March 12 2024 10:41 GMT
#7084
On March 12 2024 19:39 Palmar wrote:
lol


DEATH TO THE PRETENDER! DEATH TO THE HERETIC! DEATH TO PALMER!
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
March 12 2024 13:14 GMT
#7110
On March 12 2024 22:09 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2024 21:54 justanothertownie wrote:
But he can defend himself if he is town. He is a big, very important boy.

Yeah no worries.

It's actually kinda fun.

The one thing I need, and I need other people to back me up on this. I am going to ask people why they think I am mafia, and I'm going to do it aggressively. Here's a very important point. Even if I was mafia, my teammates would absolutely want to get in on the "bus". This means that they would have to come up with good reasons to attack me. So even if townies agree that I must be mafia, be vary of who is on the train with you. And of course keep an open mind.

The worst thing that can happen if I get under heavy fire is that town just shuts up and does it quietly.

Essentially, if people want to hold hands and try to lynch me, I'm going to make them work for it, and in the process there is going to be a lot of information generated in the thread.

The last 2 days have been pretty bad in terms of information. Oats played well but was mafia so it can all be discarded, and VE just didn't even try.

That won't be the case if I'm the target.


VE did try he made a case on you and a case on Koshi then nobody reacted he got sad and then stopped sure.

But also don't listen to the mind controller this is simply a promise of in the future being active and defending himself not actually a post doing anything.

DEATH TO THE PRETENDER! DEATH TO THE HERETIC! DEATH TO PALMER!
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
March 12 2024 13:24 GMT
#7114
On March 12 2024 22:18 Palmar wrote:
I mean, I can't exactly call him making a case on me as a townie and writing one paragraph on koshi trying.

But maybe that was for other people to see.


Ahh yes but where's your last case more than a paragraph long?

DEATH TO THE PRETENDER! DEATH TO THE HERETIC! DEATH TO PALMER!
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
March 12 2024 22:04 GMT
#7213
On March 12 2024 23:22 Palmar wrote:
Starting some work:

For context, I've basically considered Rels a pseudo-lurker this game, but that may not be the correct take. Due the length of the game and my sporadic availability we may not have been in the thread at the same time much.

He basically hated the same post that I hated from TTS on day 1, which is a stance I wasn't aware of. I like that take, even if it's not impossible to make as mafia.

In the next few pages I think I agreed with most of what he was saying. I honestly think he just got hypnotized by my enormous balls and ended up getting mislead, but aside from attacking me, he wasn't actually bad in the early game.

I come away thinking he's less likely to be mafia than before, but this is just preliminary work.


Damn so you start looking into your reads and suddenly they're town can't find anything because maybe you're mafia?

Also Koshi's more than happy making complete 180 on various people without much backing it up and without using mason chat is mad sus ngl. Wonder if they're getting on a potential Palmer bus early.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
March 12 2024 22:06 GMT
#7214
Watch for them changing their mind and getting off it.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
March 12 2024 22:19 GMT
#7217
Watch for Palmer faking activity like above.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
March 12 2024 23:03 GMT
#7223
We'll ask to mason mz for what time is left just to prove you had it I guess.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
March 13 2024 00:06 GMT
#7236
I mean my two big cases this game have been Koshi and palmer and I think they're together if so
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
March 13 2024 00:08 GMT
#7237
On March 13 2024 08:32 justanothertownie wrote:
For the record - I think we should look into this pool for lynch tomorrow (no particular order):

CC
MZ
DMB

+ potentially Koshi (he fell off pretty badly since day1, maybe scum Koshi running out of juice? Could & should easily turn up the heat if he is town so some pressure here could be worth it)

I am not feeling the Palmar lynch/I don't think he is mafia.


Why not? He wants to lynch you. Is he bussing you for an easy win?

Backup your read with reasons please.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
March 13 2024 00:46 GMT
#7243
On March 13 2024 09:16 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2024 09:08 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On March 13 2024 08:32 justanothertownie wrote:
For the record - I think we should look into this pool for lynch tomorrow (no particular order):

CC
MZ
DMB

+ potentially Koshi (he fell off pretty badly since day1, maybe scum Koshi running out of juice? Could & should easily turn up the heat if he is town so some pressure here could be worth it)

I am not feeling the Palmar lynch/I don't think he is mafia.


Why not? He wants to lynch you. Is he bussing you for an easy win?

Backup your read with reasons please.

I have multiple times. If you aren't reading then I cannot help you. If this game was as easy as "everyone who wants to lynch me is mafia" then it would be quite boring, wouldn't it?


Legitimately sorry if I've missed it. The game is so big I've had to speed read a bit. Glad you acknowledge him voting ve over oats is sus.

It would be helpful if you can compile that read on him into one clear post or refresh our memories but understand you need to leave for now.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
March 13 2024 01:15 GMT
#7246
Yeah but did VE have tmi on cc? He didn't vote for her when he was on the line either?
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