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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 05 2024 09:35 GMT
#1869
Why did you decide to not worry about me this game Jake? And why did you not say that before roles went out?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 05 2024 10:01 GMT
#1876
OK having just read Jacob's filter from this game and his last town game, gun to my head I would probably say town, he is posting 'freely' and there are a few times he volunteered reads

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On March 04 2024 18:01 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Okay I'm backish, currently sick so I may drop out for a few hours at a time to just sleep shits exhausting.

It's totally within DP's Meta to be question presuring and smug but as I said before I'm not going to think about him for a good while otherwise we'll get another JSL v TTT event.

Slam is interesting. I'm using all my power to not instantly Cheziu vote them.

Ray always seems like the most reasonable person ever to me but this might be because I don't think I've ever been in a ray scum game. This said I would vote for them for Mayor behind myself.

Cake Cop's gender identity has thrown my read of them entirely off which is strange I didn't realise it would do that I'll have to start reading them again.

I'm not sure who it was but someone came into the thread and was like hey three pages and no votes bah but then in the vote thread doesn't seem to have voted either.


On March 05 2024 08:38 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Okay I've been reading for like an hour and only up to page 55 but oh boy was it a "Fun" night. this is just up to 55 haven't seen anything after that.

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On March 04 2024 23:26 Vivax wrote:
Moving Oats to town. I thought he spammed too much at the time and his question to the host felt like something he could have done in PM land but the fact he felt the same way about JS looking scummish early probably means we think more alike than not.

So I‘m at:

Town: DP, Rayn, Oats, TTS
Good nulls : Marv
Null/need to read more: MZ, cop, Slam
Bad nulls: VE, Sandroba
Mafia: Trfel


Okay I'll just open up replies of interest from when I was sleeping and then combine them all later it might look a bit discombobulated.

Do you still think I'm scummish? If so where am I on the list?

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On March 04 2024 23:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't understand the case Vivax, can you sum it up?


Yeah I'm not seeing Sando being bad from this either she was like exactly I changed my mind. Seemed town in play as far as I could tell. (following up with later posts sando being in mason with marv and not being seen as scum by marv is also good)

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On March 05 2024 00:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
Koshi is trying too hard to do his “I’m so town look at me stuff”


I also did get this impression a bit but I might be biased by last game Koshi being mafia, speaking of I voted for him to see if he got pouty about it. Which they did a very small amount but not sure if alignment indicitive nessesarally. (follow up now that I've read to page 55 both my very slight town reads are voting VE and then Rayn just started mentioning voting VE so I would be happy to "sheep", that said I wasn't super impressed but I know I have a massive cognative bais against Koshi.

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On March 05 2024 02:13 Vivax wrote:
I have been thinking a bit about it and believe that the benefits outweigh the drawbacks of me claiming Jailkeeper on D1.

That‘s basically the only reason I want to be mayor.

I think that with half the day over we‘re far enough in the phase to have gathered who else was keen on the mayor spot without having the role to justify it.



Honestly wtf how?

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On March 05 2024 02:46 sandroba wrote:
On March 05 2024 02:39 marvellosity wrote:
Vivax is town but I don’t trust his lynch target if he gets elected.

Slam there is no point doing anything with. Let mafia deal with him and if he’s alive in X days revisit it.

Vivax is prob role-blocked and killed however now if not elected. If elected we are probably tying up a possible rb on him forever. Either way we lost one protective role for town, but now we have to think about how to minimize the damage or make the best situation out of it.


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On March 05 2024 02:56 CopCake wrote:
I also do not understand the whole vivax is town because he claimed jailkeeper because that is bullshit.

Not because the logic of the whole scenario but because I think he is the type of player to be insane enough as mafia to do something like that.



Okay I see the logic of tying up a role block forever on him but... if mafia (although I find it almost certain he isn't) I feel like I would prefer a strong town later.

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On March 05 2024 03:37 iamperfection wrote:
Copcake goes up several town tiers for borderline cheating


This is kinda fair.

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On March 05 2024 04:03 CopCake wrote:
I think that Vivax is angry because he claimed and he might lose mayor so he is going to die at night.

And if he doesnt die, then he fake claimed.

Because why would mafia lose an opportunity like that, right?



I don't feel mafia vivax would do this without this much pressure like don't get me wrong that's actually a play I can see someone making or... I could see someone convinced into by their scum team but I don't know if they would have used jailkeeper for that claim and also what about counterclaim risks as mafia? No I think vivax is town.

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On March 05 2024 04:11 Koshi wrote:
On March 05 2024 04:08 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 05 2024 04:07 Koshi wrote:
On March 05 2024 02:35 marvellosity wrote:
On March 05 2024 02:34 marvellosity wrote:
On March 05 2024 02:34 Vivax wrote:
On March 05 2024 02:34 marvellosity wrote:
I’m currently not looking outside my mason partners for mayor.


Sandro is scummy though

He’s townie.

He has pursued me in the chat in a very townie way.

Also this is dumb. Good info for when you flip town. But now all this is dumb.

Whisperer mafia only need to fight 1 townie. While if he posts in the thread he needs to fight 16.

Mason stuff is useless. Keep it to yourselves.

Eh, let them decide. It is far from shitting up the thread.

If that bothers you, you should be shouting me down honestly.

It bothers me that marv kinda forced the sandroba read on us because "mason stuff". Really bad going forward to approach it like that.


Ehh was already reading sandro as pretty town. Think the mason hate is weird.


Anyway will disapear again until I catch up from page 55




On March 05 2024 09:09 JacobStrangelove wrote:
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On March 05 2024 05:15 Vivax wrote:
On March 05 2024 05:14 die_meatbaby wrote:
@copcake my tea is getting cold and I ate already a lot of the hand baked biscuits.I am waiting for you to tell me the real tea about you that I should know. I hope I didn't bake this exquisite pastry for the wrong person.


What is this the newest issue of modern grandma


Found this really funny, not helpful I know but I like it.

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On March 05 2024 05:32 DarthPunk wrote:
I don’t think Rayn is outside of his scum range btw.


What is Rayn's Scum range I probably need to know.

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On March 05 2024 05:38 Vivax wrote:
On March 05 2024 05:34 iamperfection wrote:
On March 05 2024 05:32 DarthPunk wrote:
I don’t think Rayn is outside of his scum range btw.

So you thinks it's possible scum rayn masoned marv willingly


We don't even know what marv is. Besides, why shouldn't he?
It's like you think masoning marv is equal to running naked and heavily armed into a military encampment.


I mean if Marv was town quite possibly but not for a player like Ray who while I've only seen the town play but I know it's strong and strong early which is why if town being mayor would be an advantage compared to say dp who's town game is only strong later.

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On March 05 2024 05:57 Vivax wrote:
I am waiting for JS to offer a behind the scenes picture of what‘s really happening in that marv sandro rayn masonry


After a day like this my night post is going to be glorious.

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On March 05 2024 06:06 Koshi wrote:
On March 05 2024 05:59 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 05 2024 05:57 Koshi wrote:
On March 05 2024 01:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
sandroba what marv is telling you is true.

lol this is funny

On March 05 2024 01:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 05 2024 01:51 iamperfection wrote:
I do find it odd marv isn't posting in the thread

I told a couple of hours ago to him that people are gonna scumread him for playing the game only in discord with 2 mason chats ^^

If mafia makes me mayor. I am willing to shoot marv.
Just putting that out there.

0 fucks would be given.


Great way to not end up as mayor.

Koshi can I have a list post? Doesn’t need to be everyone just enough so that I can see where your head is at

page 36 and too angry to continue.

But

town:
iamp cuz town best time was in the first pages and he was a driving factor.
dp: I wrote 'good interpretation of DP vs Oats' but that seems incorrect. That being said. I don't dislike your copcake stuff but I haven't read it because it doesn't spark anything in me. I am pretty sure I read copcake really good of one of her first posts in a previous game because she backtracked on a story after being called out. So I am waiting on her to fuck up. She is just playing a different game as me here, but not in a bad way.
Vivax I like him
MZ Ugly posts, but I can see him being town and him finding his way

Null
Oats

Mafia
DMB because bad start
TheNewGuy because I don't like that entrance
Tfrel because reasoning given. Too safe.
marv because he can die




Okay are you avoiding me specifically or really have no opinion even a null one?

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On March 05 2024 06:16 Palmar wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Thirdly I pledge to make my personal lynch a town lynch.

Pretty scummy, I pledge to make my personal lynch a scum lynch. Much better platform.


This is funny and as marv says funny palmer is mafia.

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On March 05 2024 06:54 DarthPunk wrote:
I think Koshi is super townie here.

Also I am going to unvote cake.

##unvote


WHY what? *takes deep breath and decides not to tunnel DP again.

Would you be able to explain why you are unvoting cake please.

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On March 05 2024 07:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 05 2024 07:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 05 2024 07:29 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 05 2024 07:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##vote DarthPunk


lol why?

youre mafia. gn.


Love this.


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On March 05 2024 07:46 DarthPunk wrote:
Does anyone know why rayn thinks I am mafia?



I mean after seeing you unvote cake...

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On March 05 2024 07:56 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 05 2024 07:51 iamperfection wrote:
On March 05 2024 07:46 DarthPunk wrote:
Does anyone know why rayn thinks I am mafia?

Probably because you want to make vivax mayor. Which is insane imo we have someone who already made a terrible decision and you want to give said person more power. He probably thinks your smarter then that and concluded you must be mafia to not see that.


How is he getting more power?

He is just immune to night kill, if he was getting a double vote for the rest of the game that is a different story.

Having our jailkeeper with night kill immunity is really fucking powerful, at worst it soaks a rb for the rest of the game, at best it is just literally broken.

It puts mafia in all sorts of uncomfortable positions where they are fucked if the RB gets lynched or shot.

The vig shot or whatever can be negotiated, but I don't think vivax is bad as town regardless, and he is basically confirmed town.

Why would I roll the dice on anyone who is NOT confirmed town.

Rayn, marv and sandro are NOT confirmed town.


This said good looking post, as sad as it is maybe it's worth keeping vivax alive. I did like him before he roll claimed tbh seemed townish which is why it baffled me all the more that he felt presured enough to claim.

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On March 05 2024 08:01 marvellosity wrote:
On March 05 2024 08:00 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 05 2024 07:59 marvellosity wrote:
On March 05 2024 07:58 DarthPunk wrote:
The fact that vivax claimed when he did is arguably bad, but now that he HAS claimed, it is just worse to not make him NK immune by voting him for mayor.

otherwise he will just get NK this night, and we lose a confirmed town.

So someone explain to me why I am the idiot in this situation?

You know mayors can get lynched right bud


Are we lynching vivax marv?

You miss my point.

You elect a nut job who kills stupid people or makes stupid decision.

Or you elect someone v likely town who might actually hit mafia, and In case you elected mafia after all you can still lynch them later


But I can also see this point as well. Difficult.... I'm conflicted right now.



when he didn't have to this game which was also a notable trait in his last town game.

Activity metrics are comparable to his town play and the posting style is quite similar.

The only thing that gives me pause is his treatment of me as confirmed town from the get-go, and not wanting to lynch his top scum read over lurkers. These are big reasons to be worried but if his activity stays on track and he doesn't contribute to actively trying to find mafia later then yeet him, but I don't want to lynch him today.

His latest posting is really weird, but he posted some out there shit in his last town game to so meh.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 05 2024 10:02 GMT
#1877
On March 05 2024 19:00 justanothertownie wrote:
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On March 05 2024 17:05 marvellosity wrote:
Iamp, i take back my criticism of your VE vote. I’m not convinced but I don’t think it’s bad.

As I’m not gonna be here, doing this to make life easier.

##mayor: Vivax

Do you really think that's the play here? Or are you just being lazy? I think mafia is super happy with Vivax being the guy they cannot shoot instead of someone who can actually lead lynches on them. People here put too much stock in roles and not enough in playing the game imo. But I would expect you not to.

I would much prefer you being obv town and going for mayor.


Hi I forgot you existed.

What are your reads please.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 05 2024 10:08 GMT
#1879
I'm going to bed early so I can get up early to be around a bit before the deadline to catch up.

I think Palmar is the best lynch today.

Reasons:

1) he spent all last game posting about how he is a god on day one and carried the town and yayaya.

2.) his filter from day one this game.

##vote: Palmar

He is just not the same player as his town play last time.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 05 2024 10:10 GMT
#1881
On March 05 2024 19:09 JacobStrangelove wrote:
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On March 05 2024 19:00 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 05 2024 17:05 marvellosity wrote:
Iamp, i take back my criticism of your VE vote. I’m not convinced but I don’t think it’s bad.

As I’m not gonna be here, doing this to make life easier.

##mayor: Vivax

Do you really think that's the play here? Or are you just being lazy? I think mafia is super happy with Vivax being the guy they cannot shoot instead of someone who can actually lead lynches on them. People here put too much stock in roles and not enough in playing the game imo. But I would expect you not to.

I would much prefer you being obv town and going for mayor.


Why is Marv obvious town over say Ray?


He is saying he wishes marv could be obvious town, which marv could choose to do as alignment if he was so inclined probably.

But hasn't really bothered to do so recently.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 05 2024 21:23 GMT
#2268
I’m here.

Unvote
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 05 2024 21:42 GMT
#2280
On March 06 2024 06:33 Trfel wrote:
My apologies, I don't have time to play today. I'll try and catch up later tonight or tomorrow.

Voting for Vivax and Palmar, I don't particularly know why, I'll try and check in to see if I need to switch votes. If I get lynched so be it.


Mafia
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 05 2024 21:43 GMT
#2281
On March 06 2024 06:36 Palmar wrote:
I guess it's become my duty to play spot the mafia.

VE looks a little worse btw


It’s ok you aren’t being lynched today.

End of day is my time to shine ✨
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 05 2024 21:45 GMT
#2283
On March 06 2024 06:44 Koshi wrote:
Palmar and Hapa guys.
It's good enough fir D1.


Palmar looks way better though.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 05 2024 21:58 GMT
#2306
On March 06 2024 06:46 justanothertownie wrote:
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On March 06 2024 06:45 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 06 2024 06:44 Koshi wrote:
Palmar and Hapa guys.
It's good enough fir D1.


Palmar looks way better though.

How?


The main reason to lynch him was the fact he was being a lazy bastard and not scumhunting or doing anything at all when ostensibly day one is supposed to be his best day.

So, he was a clear lynch going to bed last night my time.

Now that I have started to catch up again, he has just been scumhunting and trying to solve the game as much as he can before he dies.

This is generally the number one way that people are town when they are going to be lynched, just get as much info in the thread.

I think his tone has looked good since he started trying, particularly the joy that he had when he got the same scumread on you with sandro at the same time.

Now you could say that he is faking this level of engagement as mafia, but I happen to have first hand experience that palmar is absolutely terrible and lazy as mafia and I don't buy it.

I think as mafia he would have not coasted so obviously only to then scum hunt and fake mindmelds later on, probably he would just fakeclaim something and roll the dice that way.

Anyway I am not lynching 5 page palmar who is scumhunting and mindmelding with sandro day one.

I just need to figure out who we are lynching instead.

Like, why not you for example, in the obs you were really smart and here you are thoroughly underwhelming.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 05 2024 22:00 GMT
#2309
On March 06 2024 06:49 iamperfection wrote:
That trfel vote is one of the scummiest vote posts I have ever seen.


agree.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 05 2024 22:02 GMT
#2311
On March 06 2024 06:55 Palmar wrote:
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On March 05 2024 23:24 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 05 2024 23:13 Palmar wrote:
JAT looks pretty bad. He has said pretty much nothing about me except that comment about not agreeing with my logic on how Vivax needs to be treated, which isn't alignment indicative.

And he's trying to kill me.

And his filter is shorter than mine so he can't even claim lurker lynch

Well, I think it should be obvious that I am 100 % sheeping right now to see where this goes. I don't have a reason of my own except for the lack of reasons to townread you.

want this one instead?



There is no way mafia palmar does this btw.

Like he is being offered a fucking lifeline with trfel scumclaiming in the thread and then instead of taking it he just goes, how about MY preferred lynch instead.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 05 2024 22:04 GMT
#2314
On March 06 2024 07:02 Palmar wrote:
I want to point out once again how bad marv's take on me is. I don't even need him to call me town, I just need him to at least give the idea a thought. Even if it's just "hey Palmar is always going to try in mafia, maybe not kill him on day 1.

The dude LIKES playing with me. The fact he hasn't even stopped for a second, can't find a single redeeming thing is pretty bad.


Agree with this.

I also have issues a'la Koshi about rayn hard town reading marv based on the summary he posted which was just like whatever.

Sandro is the only one in that circle I am feeling good about right now.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 05 2024 22:05 GMT
#2319
On March 06 2024 07:03 justanothertownie wrote:
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On March 06 2024 06:58 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 06 2024 06:46 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 06 2024 06:45 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 06 2024 06:44 Koshi wrote:
Palmar and Hapa guys.
It's good enough fir D1.


Palmar looks way better though.

How?


The main reason to lynch him was the fact he was being a lazy bastard and not scumhunting or doing anything at all when ostensibly day one is supposed to be his best day.

So, he was a clear lynch going to bed last night my time.

Now that I have started to catch up again, he has just been scumhunting and trying to solve the game as much as he can before he dies.

This is generally the number one way that people are town when they are going to be lynched, just get as much info in the thread.

I think his tone has looked good since he started trying, particularly the joy that he had when he got the same scumread on you with sandro at the same time.

Now you could say that he is faking this level of engagement as mafia, but I happen to have first hand experience that palmar is absolutely terrible and lazy as mafia and I don't buy it.

I think as mafia he would have not coasted so obviously only to then scum hunt and fake mindmelds later on, probably he would just fakeclaim something and roll the dice that way.

Anyway I am not lynching 5 page palmar who is scumhunting and mindmelding with sandro day one.

I just need to figure out who we are lynching instead.

Like, why not you for example, in the obs you were really smart and here you are thoroughly underwhelming.

I am utterly unconvinced. Palmar can absolutely play a decent mafia game and he has not done anything recently that would be hard to fake. What has he solved? He is just going after the people who voted for him.


Find me one decent mafia game he has played then I will read it and decide.

as it is I am still not lynching him today.

I suggest you tell me why we should lynch trfel over yourself.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 05 2024 22:06 GMT
#2320
On March 06 2024 07:05 justanothertownie wrote:
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On March 06 2024 07:02 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 06 2024 06:55 Palmar wrote:
On March 05 2024 23:24 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 05 2024 23:13 Palmar wrote:
JAT looks pretty bad. He has said pretty much nothing about me except that comment about not agreeing with my logic on how Vivax needs to be treated, which isn't alignment indicative.

And he's trying to kill me.

And his filter is shorter than mine so he can't even claim lurker lynch

Well, I think it should be obvious that I am 100 % sheeping right now to see where this goes. I don't have a reason of my own except for the lack of reasons to townread you.

want this one instead?



There is no way mafia palmar does this btw.

Like he is being offered a fucking lifeline with trfel scumclaiming in the thread and then instead of taking it he just goes, how about MY preferred lynch instead.

I don't think you know Palmar at all. Or you are just pulling things out of your ass. One of the 2.


I played with him a fair amount back in the day.

He was useless as mafia god as town, that is my recollection of him.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 05 2024 22:08 GMT
#2322
Vote: JAT

Talk to me about someone that isn't palmar or vivax.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 05 2024 22:10 GMT
#2326
On March 06 2024 07:09 justanothertownie wrote:
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On March 06 2024 07:05 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 06 2024 07:03 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 06 2024 06:58 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 06 2024 06:46 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 06 2024 06:45 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 06 2024 06:44 Koshi wrote:
Palmar and Hapa guys.
It's good enough fir D1.


Palmar looks way better though.

How?


The main reason to lynch him was the fact he was being a lazy bastard and not scumhunting or doing anything at all when ostensibly day one is supposed to be his best day.

So, he was a clear lynch going to bed last night my time.

Now that I have started to catch up again, he has just been scumhunting and trying to solve the game as much as he can before he dies.

This is generally the number one way that people are town when they are going to be lynched, just get as much info in the thread.

I think his tone has looked good since he started trying, particularly the joy that he had when he got the same scumread on you with sandro at the same time.

Now you could say that he is faking this level of engagement as mafia, but I happen to have first hand experience that palmar is absolutely terrible and lazy as mafia and I don't buy it.

I think as mafia he would have not coasted so obviously only to then scum hunt and fake mindmelds later on, probably he would just fakeclaim something and roll the dice that way.

Anyway I am not lynching 5 page palmar who is scumhunting and mindmelding with sandro day one.

I just need to figure out who we are lynching instead.

Like, why not you for example, in the obs you were really smart and here you are thoroughly underwhelming.

I am utterly unconvinced. Palmar can absolutely play a decent mafia game and he has not done anything recently that would be hard to fake. What has he solved? He is just going after the people who voted for him.


Find me one decent mafia game he has played then I will read it and decide.

as it is I am still not lynching him today.

I suggest you tell me why we should lynch trfel over yourself.

I will not go through the database at this time of day to prove something everyone already knows...


Clearly not everybody.
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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 05 2024 22:13 GMT
#2333
On March 06 2024 07:08 Koshi wrote:
For the people thinking this was a good post by Palmar.

why marv should not be called mafia:
1) marv has a 7 page filter and is actually playing. That alone is enough to not call him mafia D1.
2) Palmar admits the first vote is legit on him. So that means marv came out of hiding to post a legit vote that would and could mean he had to play hard for the rest of the game if town!Palmar brought his A game. It is less likely Mafia!marv would do that because he cba. Town!marv would come out because he thinks it is the best thing to do for town. So this also leans towards a town!marv. This alone would be a good reason not to vote marv D1.
3) marv being wrong on Palmar means fuck all for his alignment. Last game, with Palmar and marv, they both wrongly tunneled Tfrel and Sandroba for 3 days straight, and townread mebaby. They were wrong 3 times, for 3 days. Both didn't catch scum rayn for those 3 days. Maybe I am slightly exaggerating but not too much. So don't think marv is flawless and it makes him mafia.

Why Palmar is mafia:
4) His reads are not good enough. The Oats read; which was at that time his top 1 mafia, was opportunistic and badly thought out. His marv read is just OMGUS and trying to discredit the person who leads his wagon.
5) He can play as a town leader, so him playing like a weasel this game points towards mafia.
6) Doing better is not hard when you start at the bottom of bottoms. It's a horrible point people are making. (calling out DP). He is at his best in this game still doing worse than he did in the previous game.

Kill Palmar.


Koshi if Palmar is town, after last game you realise he SHOULD be scum reading marv because marv prides himself on being the palmar whisperer and saving him from being mislynched etc.

so in this game, assuming palmar is town and marv seems to just be coasting to a palmar lynch here, town!palmar is always going to read marv as mafia.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 05 2024 22:16 GMT
#2340
On March 06 2024 07:11 Vivax wrote:
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On March 06 2024 04:57 Grackaroni wrote:
Palmar (7) : marvellosity, justanothertownie, Alakaslam, sandroba, DarthPunk, Koshi, raynpelikoneet, Trfel



Updated.

Any reason we shouldn't kill TTS?
I'm not discounting that Palmar could flip mafia especially if marv is town but it has the touch of a vanity wagon and Trfel's vote is lazy bussing in that case.

I won't fight it but a counterwagon is pointless atp because we got scum with shaky knees apparently.


TTS is a really easy lynch here. I really didn't want to lynch them day one, just because its a new player to the site, but they are my backup wagon right now, just cause its easy and they won't be modkilled.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 05 2024 22:22 GMT
#2355
This is so much fun btw
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
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