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On March 07 2024 00:11 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 00:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 07 2024 00:08 Vivax wrote:On March 07 2024 00:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 06 2024 23:59 Vivax wrote:
Rels, MZ, Palmar, Jealous, VE
Cop wants in.
Good working hypothesis? How sure you are of DMB not being mafia, because she looks very mafia to me as well. and why? Not at all. I think she always looks scummy on a surface level but her being so stubborn about DP makes me think town. Its just not worth it to pursue that as scum. Why does she scumread Cake when Cake is the only other person ever in this game to scumread DP? Also her read on me is shit. I can understand people thinking i am mafia, but i don't understand that shit she is saying. You are looking for someone to make sense as town who enjoys chaos and not making sense in the first place. A bit like me. But I can flip around and try to make sense if the situation requires it.
i looked at her reads on me in previous games, mirroring them to this dont make sense to me.
if she has some new "meta" from our scumgame, it might make sense, but she's not saying any of that sort.
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On March 07 2024 00:12 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 22:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 06 2024 22:35 Palmar wrote:
It's so enjoyable watching rayn hammering someone other than yourself.
Go rayn! youre still scum. until you explain how in your head mafia rayn masoned mafia marv (1min into the game) masoned town sandroba. until you tell us why VE is mafia, because he is You see, I understand this is a stretch for you but I am capable of holding multiple options in my head at any moment. We had this argument last game as well, where you were mafia trying to hammer me for exactly the same logic. I do not make associative readsSo, I can think at some point that marv is mafia, and I can independently think you are mafia, and even if I agree that it's unlikely you'd do a stunt like that, that doesn't change my individual conclusions. Now I'm not even sure marv is mafia, hell I'm not even sure you're mafia, I really liked you going after copcake just now. Remember, we HAD THIS ARGUMENT last game, and you were the mafia and I was the town there. I do not make associative reads and I do not care about links like this. I just individually consider players and accept that sometimes I'm wrong. If marv is scum and you're town, that makes the mason thing suddenly not weird at all, same with the other direction, could just be a stunt you pull. It really doesn't matter to me, that's not how I think about the game. Also I kinda agree VE has fallen off a cliff in my opinion. I kinda wrote him off and haven't filter dived him mostly for that tonal read that he was enjoying himself, but since then he has stopped enjoying playing... so... that no longer applies?
this is not an associative read in normal sense.
it's similar to you calling slam 100% town for masoning you last game.
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On March 07 2024 00:19 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 22:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 06 2024 08:55 Palmar wrote:
I'm finalizing here.
I like a bunch of mafia in:
rayn
jat
rels
mz
tts
then there's gonna be some mafia in the people who should be killed on policy
vivax
trfel
hapa
then there's the people that need constant monitoring and need to improve
iamp
marv
jealous
copcake
slam
ve
and finally we have the people I have somewhere from mild to good reasons to think are town
sandro
oats
dp
dmb
jls
koshi
None of the lists are in any particular order
I don't really think Trfel will flip mafia. It's just a "I believe in people" read that he wouldn't fuck off like that as mafia with the whole "If I get lynched I get lynched" thing. But it's an objectively good lynch so I'm not going to fight it all that hard. Leaving my vote on jat. I've been burned before by placing too much faith in people not doing crazy things as mafia so it's whatever. Whoever likes this post as for Palmar townie points, is stupid. This post has something for everyone, everyone can be happy about something in this post, and it literally says nothing at all. Even the Trfel townread is not a townread really. I mean that post can be ignored, it's already out of date. I was just going to sleep and had no idea if town would swing back around on me, so I wanted to summarize how I felt about the game in case I flipped.
It was not out of date when you posted it.
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On March 07 2024 00:31 marvellosity wrote:
He coloured Hapa all green which I think is a super ballsy move if he’s mafia
that's the only townie thing i found in that post.
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On March 07 2024 00:31 Palmar wrote:
So like preemptively, I'm trying to come to a conclusion why rayn wouldn't open up my filter and ctrl+f Vivax while shouting in caps at me and I just really can't think of one.
Secondly I already explained to him as confirmed town (last game) how I differ in my approach to people's alignment. I don't tie them together like that.
raynpelikoneet
fite me!
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On March 07 2024 00:37 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 00:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 07 2024 00:31 Palmar wrote:
So like preemptively, I'm trying to come to a conclusion why rayn wouldn't open up my filter and ctrl+f Vivax while shouting in caps at me and I just really can't think of one.
Secondly I already explained to him as confirmed town (last game) how I differ in my approach to people's alignment. I don't tie them together like that.
raynpelikoneet
fite me! Gonna explain why you think I'm mafia without reading me filter?
I have read enough.
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Vivax point is not important, it just came to my head when i quoted your post to show how that list post is not townie.
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At least the parts i base my read on you.
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On March 07 2024 00:39 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 00:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax point is not important, it just came to my head when i quoted your post to show how that list post is not townie. I find it important. Also if it's not important, why all the caps?
because in the heat of the moment i thought it is important.
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On March 07 2024 00:40 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
At least the parts i base my read on you. Which parts are those?
On March 06 2024 22:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:Adding to palmar from me/marv QT: "Palmar was trying to buddy sandroba and me, when it didnt work on me he called me mafia WITH marv. His read progression on VE is trash, or like the lack of it."And earlier: Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 12:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Palmar says its possible mafia rayn masoned mafia marv, that should already be like 100% scum claim.
Palmar claims VE lloks worse does absolutely nothing about it, while VE is his best buddy he is really really really good at reading. scumclaim #2 On first point, that's completely unreasonable thought. Like scum rayn masons scum marv and THEN scum marv masons town sandroba. Never ever in his head the thought of this being ridiculous on all fronts appears. Second point needs no explaining.
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I entirely dislike your read "progression" on VE, and i think it makes you mafia.
I entirely dislike that you even have a thought in your head at any point of the game that me and marv are mafia together (which you had as per your posts). And i think it makes you mafia.
Rels made a good point about your stance on marv's scumread on you. Maybe Rels is mafia with you as JAT thinks, but nevertheless it's a good point, you just shrug it off like it's nothing. And people buy that shit from you.
JAT makes a good point about your case on him. Your thinking is not coherent there, as it is not in other cases as well above. I think it also makes you mafia.
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On March 07 2024 00:47 Palmar wrote:
The second point about VE is also kinda weird. I have had a change of heart about VE, but he was never my primary scumread yesterday, I just mentioned that him falling off a cliff made him look worse. Why do you care so much about my read on VE? I've arguably said more about VE than I've said about for example iamp or dmb or Rels.
because youre super good at reading VE
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On March 07 2024 00:52 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 00:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I entirely dislike your read "progression" on VE, and i think it makes you mafia.
Let's break this down. I initially made a tone read on VE and explained that it was mostly that, along with some theorycrafting, shitting on people using unccd as a thing. That latter part is NAI but whatever. The second time I talked about him I mentioned him looking a little worse, and then I made another post about him and Trfel needing to step up. I feel like this makes perfect sense given VE's lack of activity in the later parts of D1 And now during the night I said he's fallen off a cliff, which I kinda think is a fair characterization of his play. What's the problem with this? I admit, he's not been a primary investigative target of mine, but I don't think I've said anything weird.
So did you or did you not read VE's fliter?
Because you have basically claimed to follow the thread with ctrl+f palmar on people's filter?
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On March 07 2024 00:56 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 00:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I entirely dislike that you even have a thought in your head at any point of the game that me and marv are mafia together (which you had as per your posts). And i think it makes you mafia.
Again, I understand you disliking it, but now that I've reminded you that these kind of associative reads don't really matter to me as town, doesn't that change your stance?
so do you think it is 1% possible mafia rayn masoned mafia marv masoned town sandroba?
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On March 07 2024 01:01 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 01:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 07 2024 00:52 Palmar wrote:On March 07 2024 00:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I entirely dislike your read "progression" on VE, and i think it makes you mafia.
Let's break this down. I initially made a tone read on VE and explained that it was mostly that, along with some theorycrafting, shitting on people using unccd as a thing. That latter part is NAI but whatever. The second time I talked about him I mentioned him looking a little worse, and then I made another post about him and Trfel needing to step up. I feel like this makes perfect sense given VE's lack of activity in the later parts of D1 And now during the night I said he's fallen off a cliff, which I kinda think is a fair characterization of his play. What's the problem with this? I admit, he's not been a primary investigative target of mine, but I don't think I've said anything weird. So did you or did you not read VE's fliter? Because you have basically claimed to follow the thread with ctrl+f palmar on people's filter? Did not. Opened it, skimmed a little, but no I didn't read his filter. Obviously that ctrl+f thing is a hyperbole with a tiny bit of truth in it 
Well you scumread me, why does my read on VE that was well known hold no significance to you?
On March 07 2024 01:01 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 01:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 07 2024 00:56 Palmar wrote:On March 07 2024 00:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I entirely dislike that you even have a thought in your head at any point of the game that me and marv are mafia together (which you had as per your posts). And i think it makes you mafia.
Again, I understand you disliking it, but now that I've reminded you that these kind of associative reads don't really matter to me as town, doesn't that change your stance? so do you think it is 1% possible mafia rayn masoned mafia marv masoned town sandroba? I don't think about the game that way and refuse to have this argument again with you.
everyone does, always.
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Does anyone else in the game think mafia rayn masoned mafia marv and either had all those discussions in the discord chat or doctored it?
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On March 07 2024 01:08 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 01:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Does anyone else in the game think mafia rayn masoned mafia marv and either had all those discussions in the discord chat or doctored it? No, but I am not sure that's a helpful avenue right now.
It very sure is because Palmar at the time seems to have that thought.
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"Here is a post where there is something for everyone to be happy about"- Palmar
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That's good i am alive tomorrow.
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iamp where is your head at at the moment?
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