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On March 13 2024 10:55 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 10:54 Jealous wrote:On March 13 2024 10:36 Rels wrote:
Kind of lost
I think the arguments on Koshi, but I still think he's town every time I read a posting spree from him. If he's scum, he really upped his level and motivation
If I had to settle on a team right now, it would be CopCake / Jealous / Probably MZ. I would have to revisit MZ because his D2 looked really fucking townie to me
DMB is town by association from CopCake in that scenario CopCake and me both being scum would be an Oscar-worthy performance for both of us I think. I'm simply not the thespian you seem to think I am. Sorry to disappoint. You have my interest, why?
As hypocritical as it may be, CopCake's hurt-posting and self-vote felt pretty genuine, I was immobile to lynch her D2, and she didn't switch off of herself either. The only reason she didn't get lynched is because of iamperfect. So your team would have to be two great actors in Me/CC and a painfully obvious hammer on VE from iamperfect. Nothing else would really make sense.
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On March 13 2024 11:02 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 10:59 Jealous wrote:On March 13 2024 10:55 Rels wrote:On March 13 2024 10:54 Jealous wrote:On March 13 2024 10:36 Rels wrote:
Kind of lost
I think the arguments on Koshi, but I still think he's town every time I read a posting spree from him. If he's scum, he really upped his level and motivation
If I had to settle on a team right now, it would be CopCake / Jealous / Probably MZ. I would have to revisit MZ because his D2 looked really fucking townie to me
DMB is town by association from CopCake in that scenario CopCake and me both being scum would be an Oscar-worthy performance for both of us I think. I'm simply not the thespian you seem to think I am. Sorry to disappoint. You have my interest, why? As hypocritical as it may be, CopCake's hurt-posting and self-vote felt pretty genuine, I was immobile to lynch her D2, and she didn't switch off of herself either. The only reason she didn't get lynched is because of iamperfect. So your team would have to be two great actors in Me/CC and a painfully obvious hammer on VE from iamperfect. Nothing else would really make sense. Oh I thought it was going to be about some back and forth between you and CC that made it impossible to be partner, a little disappointed :p Really disagree with the martyring part. First, I already found a post from anoter scum game of her where she martyred. Second, you cannot know she wasn't there, ready to ninja vote VE at the last minute if needed
I mean, there wasn't that much back-and-forth because after a while she just stopped responding to me in any intelligible manner, but I was lock CopCake the whole time and was who I focused my energy on casing several times D2. Point being, if you think that I can pretend to push CopCake, and CopCake can pretend to be upset with me, and then we both risk her getting lynched, then we would have to be good actors.
Really didn't think this would be a controversial take or something that needs explaining but maybe you weren't following closely.
Anyway:
##Vote: CopCake
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Damn, Rels stole my #1 vote spot on CopCake 
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Btw, salute to JSL. GG WP.
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On March 13 2024 11:09 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 11:07 Jealous wrote:On March 13 2024 11:02 Rels wrote:On March 13 2024 10:59 Jealous wrote:On March 13 2024 10:55 Rels wrote:On March 13 2024 10:54 Jealous wrote:On March 13 2024 10:36 Rels wrote:
Kind of lost
I think the arguments on Koshi, but I still think he's town every time I read a posting spree from him. If he's scum, he really upped his level and motivation
If I had to settle on a team right now, it would be CopCake / Jealous / Probably MZ. I would have to revisit MZ because his D2 looked really fucking townie to me
DMB is town by association from CopCake in that scenario CopCake and me both being scum would be an Oscar-worthy performance for both of us I think. I'm simply not the thespian you seem to think I am. Sorry to disappoint. You have my interest, why? As hypocritical as it may be, CopCake's hurt-posting and self-vote felt pretty genuine, I was immobile to lynch her D2, and she didn't switch off of herself either. The only reason she didn't get lynched is because of iamperfect. So your team would have to be two great actors in Me/CC and a painfully obvious hammer on VE from iamperfect. Nothing else would really make sense. Oh I thought it was going to be about some back and forth between you and CC that made it impossible to be partner, a little disappointed :p Really disagree with the martyring part. First, I already found a post from anoter scum game of her where she martyred. Second, you cannot know she wasn't there, ready to ninja vote VE at the last minute if needed I mean, there wasn't that much back-and-forth because after a while she just stopped responding to me in any intelligible manner, but I was lock CopCake the whole time and was who I focused my energy on casing several times D2. Point being, if you think that I can pretend to push CopCake, and CopCake can pretend to be upset with me, and then we both risk her getting lynched, then we would have to be good actors. Really didn't think this would be a controversial take or something that needs explaining but maybe you weren't following closely. Anyway: ##Vote: CopCake Yeah I didn't see anything greatly anti-partner indicative in my recollection. I might be wrong
That's wild lol
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On March 13 2024 12:01 Vivax wrote:
Another fun fact about this game: Do you know how many times Jealous placed a vote on a day then changed it?
I took a quick look and think it amounts to zero.
Read CopCake as scum.
Switched from CopCake to scum!Oats D1 (pls no misrep), while you stayed on town!VE.
Stayed on CopCake on D2, while you jumped back and forth several times between town! VE and CopCake and ended up on CopCake.
I vote CopCake again on D3, you vote MZ.
Not really seeing the issue here.
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On March 13 2024 12:11 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 12:01 Vivax wrote:
Another fun fact about this game: Do you know how many times Jealous placed a vote on a day then changed it?
I took a quick look and think it amounts to zero. Read CopCake as scum. Switched from CopCake to scum!Oats D1 (pls no misrep), while you stayed on town!VE. Stayed on CopCake on D2, while you jumped back and forth several times between town! VE and CopCake and ended up on CopCake. I vote CopCake again on D3, you vote MZ. Not really seeing the issue here.
EBWOP:
Whoa, definitely messed that up, somehow missed D1 and backdated all the other days.
D1: Came in late, sheeped Koshi's Trfel read, voted Trfel.
D2: Switched from CopCake to scum!Oats (pls no misrep), while you stayed on town!VE.
D3: Stayed on CopCake, while you jumped back and forth several times between town! VE and CopCake and ended up on CopCake.
D4: I vote CopCake again, you vote MZ.
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On March 13 2024 12:12 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 12:11 Jealous wrote:On March 13 2024 12:01 Vivax wrote:
Another fun fact about this game: Do you know how many times Jealous placed a vote on a day then changed it?
I took a quick look and think it amounts to zero. Read CopCake as scum. Switched from CopCake to scum!Oats D1 (pls no misrep), while you stayed on town!VE. Stayed on CopCake on D2, while you jumped back and forth several times between town! VE and CopCake and ended up on CopCake. I vote CopCake again on D3, you vote MZ. Not really seeing the issue here. Aside from voting copcake for no reason?
"no reason"
I'm not gonna waste time repeating myself, go ahead and filter me and find all the reasons I provided, some of them several times.
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Fine, brief summary, just for clarity:
1. Several bursts of posting almost exclusively about mechanics and digging into it without ever reaching a sensible or actionable conclusion.
2. Generally not making much sense at several points. This includes constructing a completely nonsensical case against me.
3. Hypocrisy.
4. Forming a conf!town circle at the very start of the game for no good reason besides the fact that she invited them to a tea party RP, then gave them all free town passes.
5. Martyrdom.
Probably forgot one or two by now but again, if you want more and actual quotes and etc., just filter me.
By my estimation you've contributed next to nothing to town's victory for the past several cycles so even if you're not scum, I don't really feel the need to explain myself to you.
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On March 13 2024 12:18 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 12:14 Jealous wrote:On March 13 2024 12:12 Vivax wrote:On March 13 2024 12:11 Jealous wrote:On March 13 2024 12:01 Vivax wrote:
Another fun fact about this game: Do you know how many times Jealous placed a vote on a day then changed it?
I took a quick look and think it amounts to zero. Read CopCake as scum. Switched from CopCake to scum!Oats D1 (pls no misrep), while you stayed on town!VE. Stayed on CopCake on D2, while you jumped back and forth several times between town! VE and CopCake and ended up on CopCake. I vote CopCake again on D3, you vote MZ. Not really seeing the issue here. Aside from voting copcake for no reason? "no reason" I'm not gonna waste time repeating myself, go ahead and filter me and find all the reasons I provided, some of them several times. You switched from Cop to Oats first the moment he was redchecked guessing from the vote timing. They are a couple of minutes apart. Nothing less than a move a roleblocker should make. And wasn't that your only switch this game?
Not following your logic here.
I switched because there was a redcheck, seems pretty simple to me. I know that you somehow didn't get the memo and ran a wagon on what we now know is a town.
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On March 13 2024 12:20 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 10:59 Jealous wrote:On March 13 2024 10:55 Rels wrote:On March 13 2024 10:54 Jealous wrote:On March 13 2024 10:36 Rels wrote:
Kind of lost
I think the arguments on Koshi, but I still think he's town every time I read a posting spree from him. If he's scum, he really upped his level and motivation
If I had to settle on a team right now, it would be CopCake / Jealous / Probably MZ. I would have to revisit MZ because his D2 looked really fucking townie to me
DMB is town by association from CopCake in that scenario CopCake and me both being scum would be an Oscar-worthy performance for both of us I think. I'm simply not the thespian you seem to think I am. Sorry to disappoint. You have my interest, why? As hypocritical as it may be, CopCake's hurt-posting and self-vote felt pretty genuine, I was immobile to lynch her D2, and she didn't switch off of herself either. The only reason she didn't get lynched is because of iamperfect. So your team would have to be two great actors in Me/CC and a painfully obvious hammer on VE from iamperfect. Nothing else would really make sense. Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 11:07 Jealous wrote:On March 13 2024 11:02 Rels wrote:On March 13 2024 10:59 Jealous wrote:On March 13 2024 10:55 Rels wrote:On March 13 2024 10:54 Jealous wrote:On March 13 2024 10:36 Rels wrote:
Kind of lost
I think the arguments on Koshi, but I still think he's town every time I read a posting spree from him. If he's scum, he really upped his level and motivation
If I had to settle on a team right now, it would be CopCake / Jealous / Probably MZ. I would have to revisit MZ because his D2 looked really fucking townie to me
DMB is town by association from CopCake in that scenario CopCake and me both being scum would be an Oscar-worthy performance for both of us I think. I'm simply not the thespian you seem to think I am. Sorry to disappoint. You have my interest, why? As hypocritical as it may be, CopCake's hurt-posting and self-vote felt pretty genuine, I was immobile to lynch her D2, and she didn't switch off of herself either. The only reason she didn't get lynched is because of iamperfect. So your team would have to be two great actors in Me/CC and a painfully obvious hammer on VE from iamperfect. Nothing else would really make sense. Oh I thought it was going to be about some back and forth between you and CC that made it impossible to be partner, a little disappointed :p Really disagree with the martyring part. First, I already found a post from anoter scum game of her where she martyred. Second, you cannot know she wasn't there, ready to ninja vote VE at the last minute if needed I mean, there wasn't that much back-and-forth because after a while she just stopped responding to me in any intelligible manner, but I was lock CopCake the whole time and was who I focused my energy on casing several times D2. Point being, if you think that I can pretend to push CopCake, and CopCake can pretend to be upset with me, and then we both risk her getting lynched, then we would have to be good actors. Really didn't think this would be a controversial take or something that needs explaining but maybe you weren't following closely. Anyway: ##Vote: CopCake I don't see a single reason for your vote on her here. You wrote a lot about nothing that would convince others she is scum. Guess who does that?
Dawg you couldn't even muster the effort to check a handful of final vote counts before you made the false accusation that I've never switched my vote. Not gonna take criticism on my amount of effort from you, especially if on top of that you went back just one page in the filter and called it a day. Majority of my lengthy posts on CopCake came in D2 and D3.
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On March 13 2024 12:21 Vivax wrote:
Like you spent two posts arguing on why you are not mafia to place a vote on someone.
Defensive
People tend to get defensive against false accusations/misrep, which is what you tried to do.
On March 13 2024 12:22 Vivax wrote:
Stale reads, stale votes, bad reasoning to vote copcake.
No doubt about other players alignments.
Go find my reads from D3 in my filter.
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On March 13 2024 12:26 Vivax wrote:
Anyone who was sure of copcake being mafia should at least consider that iamp voted to save her and could be scum, or am I wrong?
You're not.
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On March 13 2024 12:31 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 12:30 DarthPunk wrote:On March 13 2024 12:28 Vivax wrote:On March 13 2024 12:28 DarthPunk wrote:On March 13 2024 12:25 Vivax wrote:
##Vote: Jealous
We win or lose today Why? We have heaps of mislynches left right? I don't trust those who are surviving the nights. That’s you!! The throwers aren't mafia. I refuse to accept something isn't off in a game where 1 or perhaps even 2 townies self-voted.
Yea, someone must have made them do it?
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New super secret role:
Ophiocordyceps Unilateralis - Select a player. That player must now vote to have themselves lynched during the next day cycle. You can type for them by proxy for their reasoning for doing so.
Is a person who is selected automatically town? Or is that just what they want you to think? Find out on the next episode of "Goofy TL Mafia Stuff"!
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On March 13 2024 12:40 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 12:38 DarthPunk wrote:On March 13 2024 12:32 Vivax wrote:
And DP you are being too obtuse about Jealous and MZ for me to place any trust into you at this point. Your confidence interval is too fucking high my dude This is a hard game right now. You're ignoring evidence on Jealous. For two days. And it's not associative. You know how bad it looks for you if he flips scum here. If cop flips town what do we get? Nothing. If she flips scum? Nothing. I am probably the only person who has called Jealous potential mafia in this game. I have yet to see a good reason for him being town that isn't a vote on redchecks.
I mean, to be fair, if Cop flips town then I look pretty dang bad and stupid, and iamp looks pretty good because then there would have been no point in him switching votes and painting a target on his back, right?
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On March 13 2024 12:48 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax if jealous is town what then?
Assuming Vivax is successful in getting me mislynched D4, then he's been on a town wagon a confirmed 3 times out of 4, with the jury still out on CopCake, and is either scum or really, really bad this game.
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On March 13 2024 12:55 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 12:52 Jealous wrote:On March 13 2024 12:48 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax if jealous is town what then? Assuming Vivax is successful in getting me mislynched D4, then he's been on a town wagon a confirmed 3 times out of 4, with the jury still out on CopCake, and is either scum or really, really bad this game. Do you think he could be mafia?
He's been a default TR for me for so long since his D1 claim that I haven't bothered to see if it was mathematically/logically possible. Assuming it is, then there is always a non-0 chance.
Like, what would a scum!Vivax world look like?
1. Claims JK and doesn't get cc'd because there is no JK in this setup.
2. If he's JK, then there has to be a scum RB to RB him every night, which is why he hasn't been able to save anyone as far as we can tell, right? But if he's not JK, then there is no longer that necessity in the setup.
In this world, scum!Vivax made an absurd D1 play, and then keeps doing relatively absurd things like not voting to lynch what we now know is cop!Slam's reveal of a scum!Oats and instead helping the wagon of town!VE, then flip-flops between town!VE and (I guess in this world we have to assume?) town!CopCake before parking his vote on CopCake... Because he has a tendency to be erratic so it would be NAI and he thinks that his D1 play will give him enough town cred to shrug off any accusations?
Unless I'm missing something, it's theoretically possible, right? Still feels unlikely, though.
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On March 13 2024 13:17 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 13:16 Jealous wrote:On March 13 2024 12:55 DarthPunk wrote:On March 13 2024 12:52 Jealous wrote:On March 13 2024 12:48 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax if jealous is town what then? Assuming Vivax is successful in getting me mislynched D4, then he's been on a town wagon a confirmed 3 times out of 4, with the jury still out on CopCake, and is either scum or really, really bad this game. Do you think he could be mafia? He's been a default TR for me for so long since his D1 claim that I haven't bothered to see if it was mathematically/logically possible. Assuming it is, then there is always a non-0 chance. Like, what would a scum!Vivax world look like? 1. Claims JK and doesn't get cc'd because there is no JK in this setup. 2. If he's JK, then there has to be a scum RB to RB him every night, which is why he hasn't been able to save anyone as far as we can tell, right? But if he's not JK, then there is no longer that necessity in the setup. In this world, scum!Vivax made an absurd D1 play, and then keeps doing relatively absurd things like not voting to lynch what we now know is cop!Slam's reveal of a scum!Oats and instead helping the wagon of town!VE, then flip-flops between town!VE and (I guess in this world we have to assume?) town!CopCake before parking his vote on CopCake... Because he has a tendency to be erratic so it would be NAI and he thinks that his D1 play will give him enough town cred to shrug off any accusations? Unless I'm missing something, it's theoretically possible, right? Still feels unlikely, though. Not unless he and I are mafia together, There are missing roleblocks.
You're gonna have to walk me through this.
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On March 13 2024 13:33 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 13:27 Jealous wrote:On March 13 2024 13:17 DarthPunk wrote:On March 13 2024 13:16 Jealous wrote:On March 13 2024 12:55 DarthPunk wrote:On March 13 2024 12:52 Jealous wrote:On March 13 2024 12:48 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax if jealous is town what then? Assuming Vivax is successful in getting me mislynched D4, then he's been on a town wagon a confirmed 3 times out of 4, with the jury still out on CopCake, and is either scum or really, really bad this game. Do you think he could be mafia? He's been a default TR for me for so long since his D1 claim that I haven't bothered to see if it was mathematically/logically possible. Assuming it is, then there is always a non-0 chance. Like, what would a scum!Vivax world look like? 1. Claims JK and doesn't get cc'd because there is no JK in this setup. 2. If he's JK, then there has to be a scum RB to RB him every night, which is why he hasn't been able to save anyone as far as we can tell, right? But if he's not JK, then there is no longer that necessity in the setup. In this world, scum!Vivax made an absurd D1 play, and then keeps doing relatively absurd things like not voting to lynch what we now know is cop!Slam's reveal of a scum!Oats and instead helping the wagon of town!VE, then flip-flops between town!VE and (I guess in this world we have to assume?) town!CopCake before parking his vote on CopCake... Because he has a tendency to be erratic so it would be NAI and he thinks that his D1 play will give him enough town cred to shrug off any accusations? Unless I'm missing something, it's theoretically possible, right? Still feels unlikely, though. Not unless he and I are mafia together, There are missing roleblocks. You're gonna have to walk me through this. Well assuming they have a roleblocker over a strongarm The fact that I got a shot off means that vivax has to be a jail keeper unless from your perspective we are paired
Vivax says he jailed Slam, so if Vivax gets RB'd, Slam and marv die to 2 Mafia KP, and you get your shot off on TTS, no? Where is the missing RB?
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