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On March 09 2024 08:28 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2024 07:32 Palmar wrote:
Like I think you've done everything right if you're town Oats, and if you're mafia massive kudos for wool stuff. I am NEVER lynching you here without a red check.
I'll stick around for a little bit while doing other stuff, but I'm just not confident enough in my reads to actually move somewhere else. I think. he says this and then votes VE ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
You must understand. VEs recent play has changed his read on him dramatically.
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On March 09 2024 09:15 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Everyone down to be sub optimal let's go for Palmer lynch
Don't tempt me.
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I will go to bed now. The wagons are quite close right now so please be reasonable. Even if VE is mafia we still need to lynch oats. You are only postponing it if we are not doing it today and then people will again take this as an excuse not to play for a full dayphase.
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On March 09 2024 09:36 iamperfection wrote:
can we get a vote count
I think it is like 8:6 Oats:VE now
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On March 09 2024 09:37 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2024 08:00 justanothertownie wrote:On March 09 2024 07:59 Koshi wrote:
Copcake mafia would explain the rayn kill I guess. As would Palmar & VE. Show nested quote +On March 09 2024 08:32 justanothertownie wrote:On March 09 2024 08:28 iamperfection wrote:On March 09 2024 07:32 Palmar wrote:
Like I think you've done everything right if you're town Oats, and if you're mafia massive kudos for wool stuff. I am NEVER lynching you here without a red check.
I'll stick around for a little bit while doing other stuff, but I'm just not confident enough in my reads to actually move somewhere else. I think. he says this and then votes VE ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? You must understand. VEs recent play has changed his read on him dramatically. He thinks VE and Palmar are teamed first and then he plays interpreter for Palmar to defend him from iamp. lmao
whoosh
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On March 09 2024 18:24 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2024 18:19 JacobStrangelove wrote:On March 09 2024 18:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
I only bus when I'm around to actually soak up that sweet town cred, push the wagon, call people dumb/mafia for disagreeing with me. I don't point at a teammate and then fuck off, you can ask literally anyone who has been mafia with me. That's not how I play as the role mafia. So like, good luck to anyone who wants to lynch me - yes, I've been inactive but I've done pro-town things and my mafia meta is ironclad here. Okay so did you catch up? What are your current reads on those voting for you? Some must be town Man I haven't read shit are you kidding me? I went on a date with my new gf and forgot all about the internet and its denizens until I opened Chrome and TL was a suggestion and I was like :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO So no I don't have any reads on anyone who was voting for me, off the cuff, I think they're all of them mafia. Every single one. Because Oats was a framer with a claimed cop in the game and they wanted to save him, I was a viable target because I hadn't posted shit after promising to do so, and if whoever (I guess Vivax probably? He had the strongest tr on me when I left anyway) hadn't probably saved me then I'd be a dead townie and you'd still not know what's going on with Oats. The mafia wanted to save oats and kill me D2, that was the agenda. Lynch right down the line and if the game doesn't end then you'll probably already know who is next by then.
At least have a look into the vote thread man. That's not asking too much.
Spoiler: Vivax wanted to müder you.
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Yeah. That was not a towny stint.
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Rels posted some very obvious things after the flip and peaced. Not impressed.
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On March 09 2024 16:45 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2024 16:41 Palmar wrote:On March 09 2024 16:38 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2024 06:18 Palmar wrote:
I read like 2 posts of Oats and he's scummy Palmar, this was right near the start. What had pinged you? Genuinely curious here. It was the fact he said he wanted to be mayor. But then never really did anything to convince people he should be. Instead all his following posts were stupid questions and passive posts. I then let his reasonableness in the face of dumbassery on part of other people convince me he was town. Yep okay. I think I need to stop being a pussy and just call you town. I am really struggling to see the world you drop the suspicion on him like that as his buddy. It’s just you seeing something and saying it. I didn’t get it at the time, but obvs I am just had 
That is really not convincing to me so I have to hope that it is just a longer list of tone things I don't understand that leads you to your read. Because I cannot see it. Unless you are wifoming mafia here but I think you would not do that anyways.
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I guess I will just blame Marv if palmar is mafia. We should just lynch VE next.
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So, I just waded through Oats' filter until the start of the last dayphase. Everything after the check was claimed I don't think is even worth reading at this point. There are a few interesting things in there:
Mafia dumbtelling is a thing :D
On March 04 2024 12:28 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2024 12:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:19 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:14 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
hbd Trfel,
I'm thinking of running for mayor, we haven't had mayor elections in a looong time (or I haven't played in a game with mayor elections in a long time). May I ask, why should we vote for you as mayor? Well first off I didn't say pregame I'd vote for Palmar and then change my mind once the game started. Secondly I don't think I've ever been a mayor before. Thirdly I pledge to make my personal lynch a town lynch and will select whoever is the second in votes at the end of the day. Seems like an easy way to avoid the responsibility of the results of said lynch, no? And I don't understand why saying pregame that you would vote for Palmar and then changing your mind is a reason we should make you mayor? I was making a joke about Vivax saying he was going to autovote Palmar pregame and then immediately changed his mind. Imo the Mayor KP is town KP, not a oneshot Day vig. It's not about avoiding responsibility it's about giving the town a chance to pull a 2for1 on D1. Actually I'll cement that point, if I'm not going to win the mayor vote at the end of the day, I'm not going to vote for someone who hasn't also pledged to have the town decide the lynch. Wait do you not know that there is only 1 vote for day 1 and that’s for the mayor
I think mainly his interactions with dmb, copcake and jealous are interesting. Especially copcake since a significant part of his filter is discussing things with her but he never really seems to try and put a read on her:
A few examples of a lot of posts:
On March 04 2024 15:36 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2024 15:29 CopCake wrote:On March 04 2024 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:On March 04 2024 15:19 CopCake wrote:On March 04 2024 15:15 DarthPunk wrote:On March 04 2024 15:14 CopCake wrote:
🤭 This is so funny Cake who would you lynch right now and who would you make mayor right now? I would lynch you in a heartbeat - when I arrived you didn't try to engage me until way later (i ignored your question to see how you would react to that and there was like literally not opinion of it when the last game we played we did the opposite) - you are generally a thread control person and you are confident of your reads, here you wait for the opinion of rayn just to tell him later he is wrong and cant read you? With a little bit of bragginess - Now you think Oats is right at reading me suspicious because ??????? He has like no idea how I play. I also do not think you are trying to solve the game. Cake why did I have to ask you for a read before you stated all this? You asked me for reads before and I ignored them, in porpouse. And I go to office soon and I have a meeting. And a lot of work since I was on vacation. So next time I will post will be in 10 hours or so. And since I consider you might be mafia trying to hold on the thin - read - of oats to do something against me, I decided to act. What exactly is “how you play” What is your read on me then?
On March 05 2024 04:49 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 04:30 CopCake wrote:On March 05 2024 04:29 iamperfection wrote:On March 05 2024 04:27 CopCake wrote:On March 05 2024 04:20 Vivax wrote:On March 05 2024 04:19 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 05 2024 04:10 Alakaslam wrote:On March 05 2024 04:08 iamperfection wrote:On March 05 2024 04:07 Alakaslam wrote:On March 05 2024 04:06 iamperfection wrote:
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He didn't have any real pressure on him though Does this not strengthen Koshi's point? No how so. Isn't Koshi saying he suspects a fake claim from Vivax? This would be because Vivax is usually very adverse to real claiming, Which implies this is a gambit for mayor. If Vivax wasn't under pressure, that is further evidence it was a gambit for mayor. Where is my comprehension/logic problem? He is not fake claiming thats not what he would do. As I already know fake claiming always be exposed at some point and as he loves to play here on TL he would not risk a fake claim as scum and risking an early lynch. Just feels so wrong and it would be not comparable with any game I habe read of him. Maybe he is Town and claims so we get a town mayor but even that doesn´t seem like his meta Thank you, at least someone gets it. How is this useful on the first day, tho? I can understand third day but first? Town loses everything, and an important role, I dont want to sound mean but you fucked up in such a way that there are no words and I didnt find it funny. Like I am TOTALLY opposed of a mayor wanting to kill, like that is stupid, no matter how "capable" the player is, how "blue" is. It is a shot in the dark pretty much, and that helps mafia. If there is a mayor, and the mayor kills on first and second day, I will pretty much never consider that person town. Unless a rolecop have a check or something mechanical supports a person is mafia. Why wouldn't a mayor not just treat it as a vig shot I don't understand? I think day vig shots are stupid, there is more chance of hiting town than mafia. Day vig is a really strong town role lmao what kinda take is this??
On March 06 2024 01:22 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 01:20 CopCake wrote:
Like, I want to rule out that vivax is not mafia with two big names. And your plan is to ask 2 people who haven’t posted in the last 24 hours?
On March 06 2024 01:31 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 01:29 CopCake wrote:
Like, I dont understand why is it so bad to question Vivax claim.
I have the right to do it if I wanted to.
Okay so outside of the claim, how is vivax mafia
On March 06 2024 01:46 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 01:45 CopCake wrote:On March 06 2024 01:44 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 06 2024 01:40 CopCake wrote:On March 06 2024 01:31 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 06 2024 01:29 CopCake wrote:
Like, I dont understand why is it so bad to question Vivax claim.
I have the right to do it if I wanted to.
Okay so outside of the claim, how is vivax mafia The claim itself is just stupid, how he wants tfrel dead considering the last game, I dont think he is scumhunting His reads On March 05 2024 23:13 Vivax wrote:
I think rayn has a decent chance to flip mafia by the way.
Cop says he can't be because he'd be angrier but there's nothing that says he isn't simply more restrained in this game.
I'm moving cop out of the mafia pool just because of what Koshi said about her and good intentions. I still think she was struggling back then and took way too long to join the chorus calling my claim awful.
Iamperfection has dropped off a lot and looks a lot like Oats at this point. I just don't see any motivation to find the right lynch here. Erratic play. I believe Oats still didn't deliver an estimation of marv and Sandroba like I asked.
I don't want to lynch Palmar. I think marv is doing jack shit, and he didn't try to run for mayor for it. The Palmar vote was his first meaningful contribution, and everyone treated it like some high priest tossed a piece of metal from a pyramid and they went wild chasing it while screeching like a bunch of teenies at a rock concert.
I also think marv is kinda avoidant of DP and I know that marv has to fear DP if he's mafia. Him masoning Sandoba over DP is bad and might explain DPs lower effort.
MZ, Rels reasonable and pro-town all around but also a bit synthetic and lacking emotion for now. Not on the table for D1 I think and they have shown that they know what it takes to not lose to a casino.
DMB I think town. I liked most of the placements in her list and she had a golden opportunity to fall into her meta of antagonizing me just for fun and blending in with others doing so. I don't think she'd want a JK as mayor as mafia either.
That's about it for now. Otherwise:
Hapa joined discord and didn't post at all so I think it's due we make him the main secondary wagon that I can kill but I also need town's consent for it. Jealous works too, just make it visible please. and an hour later On March 06 2024 00:10 Vivax wrote:
Slam, iamp, TTS, Hapa
Man this game is easy read progressions are not ok Out of curiosity, have you played with vivax before? And secondly, have you read the game you linked earlier? Yeah, I have played with Vivax and yeah, that is why I said Tfrel MVP there. So with what you linked, how is that not typical vivax? He literally does that that’s vivax
On March 06 2024 02:02 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 01:49 CopCake wrote:On March 06 2024 01:46 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 06 2024 01:45 CopCake wrote:On March 06 2024 01:44 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 06 2024 01:40 CopCake wrote:On March 06 2024 01:31 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 06 2024 01:29 CopCake wrote:
Like, I dont understand why is it so bad to question Vivax claim.
I have the right to do it if I wanted to.
Okay so outside of the claim, how is vivax mafia The claim itself is just stupid, how he wants tfrel dead considering the last game, I dont think he is scumhunting His reads On March 05 2024 23:13 Vivax wrote:
I think rayn has a decent chance to flip mafia by the way.
Cop says he can't be because he'd be angrier but there's nothing that says he isn't simply more restrained in this game.
I'm moving cop out of the mafia pool just because of what Koshi said about her and good intentions. I still think she was struggling back then and took way too long to join the chorus calling my claim awful.
Iamperfection has dropped off a lot and looks a lot like Oats at this point. I just don't see any motivation to find the right lynch here. Erratic play. I believe Oats still didn't deliver an estimation of marv and Sandroba like I asked.
I don't want to lynch Palmar. I think marv is doing jack shit, and he didn't try to run for mayor for it. The Palmar vote was his first meaningful contribution, and everyone treated it like some high priest tossed a piece of metal from a pyramid and they went wild chasing it while screeching like a bunch of teenies at a rock concert.
I also think marv is kinda avoidant of DP and I know that marv has to fear DP if he's mafia. Him masoning Sandoba over DP is bad and might explain DPs lower effort.
MZ, Rels reasonable and pro-town all around but also a bit synthetic and lacking emotion for now. Not on the table for D1 I think and they have shown that they know what it takes to not lose to a casino.
DMB I think town. I liked most of the placements in her list and she had a golden opportunity to fall into her meta of antagonizing me just for fun and blending in with others doing so. I don't think she'd want a JK as mayor as mafia either.
That's about it for now. Otherwise:
Hapa joined discord and didn't post at all so I think it's due we make him the main secondary wagon that I can kill but I also need town's consent for it. Jealous works too, just make it visible please. and an hour later On March 06 2024 00:10 Vivax wrote:
Slam, iamp, TTS, Hapa
Man this game is easy read progressions are not ok Out of curiosity, have you played with vivax before? And secondly, have you read the game you linked earlier? Yeah, I have played with Vivax and yeah, that is why I said Tfrel MVP there. So with what you linked, how is that not typical vivax? He literally does that that’s vivax I do not understand his claim, when he knows he might suffer the danger of getting misslynched anyways because the claim is just so bad to be true. Which makes me believe that he could be mafia with at least two big names. I want to rule out that probability, as easy as that. Yes you said this already. The question I’m asking is if you think he’s mafia then there has to be things other than the claim that he’s doing that’s scummy
On March 06 2024 02:58 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 02:55 CopCake wrote:On March 06 2024 02:48 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 06 2024 02:44 CopCake wrote:On March 06 2024 02:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
@cake so if I’m understanding what you are saying, you think trefel is mafia with vivax then? Why else would he, in your perspective, not want to start a wagon on trefel No, I dont understand why is not voting his scum read. He claims because he doesnt want to start a wagon of someone who wont get lynched. But he starts one on you so I guess he thinks you are more lynchable. What’s the mafia motivation? I don’t see the link He is talking a lot of “why are you white knighting Tfrel”, “I think Tfrel is mafia” “I wont vote Tfrel coz to lazy to start a wagon of someone who wont be lynched” but started a wagon on you Oats. Yes you’ve literally described the situation 5 times but failed to mention how that makes him mafia
Lots of interaction, very little conclusion. Could see this being mafia/mafia.
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DMB:
He is attacking her a lot. The question is - is it distancing or is that the townie he decided to push?
On March 06 2024 10:29 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 10:26 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 06 2024 10:03 iamperfection wrote:On March 06 2024 10:00 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 06 2024 01:19 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 06 2024 01:16 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 06 2024 01:05 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 05 2024 20:02 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 05 2024 19:41 Palmar wrote:So I'm going to talk about a few people now. Consider this just rambling thoughts about the thread that I'm absolutely not going to read in full. Probably gonna do this in a few parts so my reads might evolve from now until I've done the last people I want to talk about. OatsmasterBoth initially, and currently, the reason he's my tentative #1 lynch target is based on exactly one thing, this: On March 04 2024 12:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
I’m running for mayor Go find that post in his filter, then read the following maybe... 20 posts? I don't think there is a single one of them where he is actually pushing to get himself elected as mayor. Ironically he scolded someone else for doing that same thing. On March 04 2024 12:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
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You don’t seem to even want to be mayor There really isn't much else to it. The case is simply "He said he wanted to be mayor but then none of his posting seems to point towards him actually wanting to be mayor". It's far from lock scum case, it's mostly just a bad play regardless of alignment, but it's... maybe easier to explain as an attempt to do something bold as mafia. I'm gonna read more before I plant a vote or anything. VisceraEyesPart of me just wants him to be town because I'm happy VE is playing, so I admit it may be an overreaching town read. But it's mostly a tone read. He seems to be happy to be playing the game. He said he wanted mayor and actually made a few follow up posts complaining no one was voting for him. Also this isn't even alignment indicative but it's super good. On March 05 2024 11:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
People saying unccd in a semi open setup is making my eyes roll so hard they're doing back flips. God I've never wished I was Mafia more in a game. I have zero interest in lynching VE today. DMBSo I haven't really read anything of hers but I just wanted to make this point. On March 05 2024 06:18 die_meatbaby wrote:
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Iceland has 1 or 2 hours time difference than Austria. It is not possible. You come here and directly start to lie?? It should be 9:18 or 8 :18 PM She confuses me so much. I make something that's an obvious joke, and she jumps on it? Why? My gut is "well that's stupid and townies do stupid shit". But my meta is that she's perfectly willing to do stupid shit as mafia from last game. She does get townie points for completely forgetting I exist in her list post though. But yeah, I don't actually have a read on her, it's just something I noticed. Sorry for not having you in my list post. You had like one page on you Filter. You came in the game after like 60 Pages or something. You posted some good one liners that i actually liked. Especially that one that either people should vote Vivax for mayjor or for lynch. That one made think a litte bit about the other players here. I understand that people think the claim is a scum move but why do they not lynch him when they are not voting him as mayjor either?Still it was to less posting from you to make any kind of opinions on your aligment. I can just say I was not suspicious about your few posts just kinda liked them. Atm you are more likely Town for me, but beware, this can change quickly Out of all the posts in the past like 12 hours DMB chooses this one to respond to, fence sits and doesn’t apply any of the bolded section to her list post earlier so where does that thinking even come out? Normaly i have day off, but somebody is sick and I had to come in fast. Didn't have much time to read. Btw list Was requested by rels. No answer from him atm So what have you learned from the bolded section? I have already used a translator 3 times, which means I have learnt 3 new words in English But for real I think the lynch is goeing in a wrong direction so what are you going to do? I don´t know, but I will not vote for Trfl right now. I don´t see any majorly scum shit at his filter. He plays like in the last game and he was actually doeing amzing as Town last game. So I would not like to loss him if he is Town. Actually I would like to vote on DP because he seems more scummy for me in this game, but that would be a usless vote... Vote: Justanothertownie So is this just a poe not trfel so jat? Or what is this?
Ironic, since he never even gave a reason to vote me.
On March 06 2024 10:48 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 10:44 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 06 2024 10:36 DarthPunk wrote:Especially when she is joining my wagon  I don´t really saw you making a wagon. It´s more like somebody kinda says that that person looks scummy and just tried to push a wagon on it or a lynch or whatever. Does´t really seem like you searching for actual mafia here just for a reasonable town lynch where you can say; before I started the wagon there where other people thinking the same. I was not alone.. blablabla.... Just already disapointed of you in this game. You big filter doesn´t make you direkty activ Town... This is a scumslip
On March 06 2024 11:01 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 10:59 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 06 2024 10:53 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 06 2024 10:51 DarthPunk wrote:On March 06 2024 10:50 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 06 2024 10:49 DarthPunk wrote:On March 06 2024 10:48 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 06 2024 10:44 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 06 2024 10:36 DarthPunk wrote:Especially when she is joining my wagon I don´t really saw you making a wagon. It´s more like somebody kinda says that that person looks scummy and just tried to push a wagon on it or a lynch or whatever. Does´t really seem like you searching for actual mafia here just for a reasonable town lynch where you can say; before I started the wagon there where other people thinking the same. I was not alone.. blablabla.... Just already disapointed of you in this game. You big filter doesn´t make you direkty activ Town... This is a scumslip I don't see it. Reasonable town lynch ie jat is town Is that a stretch though, could be ESL What’s the difficulty? She’s callling the lynch town AND shes on it Can you read? I didn´t say JAT is Town i just said I am not happy with both wagons. Should I waste my vote. Did it in my first game. OPEN YOU EYES AND READ CORRECTLY PLS You literally said that DP is searching for a reasonable town lynch when referring to him talking about his wagon. Lol this is hilarious
How likely is it that oats thought this was a genuine slip (he knows dmb is mafia and I am town) and that is why he went after that and ignored the supposed Koshi slip? If my memory of his play is correct pushing his buddy like that would be a 100 % Oats thing to do. Same with the general accusation of tmi:
On March 07 2024 12:01 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote:
Regardless of what I think about cake, but it seems to me that he picks weaker players to annoy until they make a mistake because of beeing annoyd and then he can push the wagon that comes up. Why he didn´t do that do players like Koshi, marv or rayn. They wouldn´t fear Dp.
This is so Tmi it’s crazy, she knows that these players are town or what??
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Forgot this post in the Cake post:
On March 05 2024 12:18 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 10:49 DarthPunk wrote:On March 05 2024 10:46 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 05 2024 10:40 DarthPunk wrote:On March 05 2024 10:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
Anyway here’s where I’m at
Town: koshi, iamp, rayn
Mafia: VE, jacob, If my push on you is contrived why don't you have an opinion on my alginment? I’m really not putting my effort into figuring you out day 1 tbh, it’s a lost cause for me What's your read on cake? I think her thing about the town circle thing feels forced but I’ve got bigger fish to fry, I’ll look at her more later today
Talks about her all day. But he has bigger fish to fry.
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On March 09 2024 22:13 Vivax wrote:
It‘a a hard choice who to protect.
I‘d just make a big enough basement and put you all in there if I could like is tradition in Austria.
Ouch
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Now that I review the posts to Jealous that I had tabs open for I realize they aren't actually that interesting. Some small things that could be interpreted positively for a world were Palmar is town though:
On March 06 2024 01:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
I’m trying to wrap my head around this Palmar push by marv and what it means for marvs alignment.
I think Palmar has been way more townie this last like 5 pages and that only seems to solidify marvs read
On March 07 2024 01:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
This Palmar rayn thing is boring
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On March 09 2024 18:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
I won't darken the thread again except to meet the activity requirements and vote. Good luck gentlemen and ladies and everything in between.
You think leaving someone like this alive is a good idea? Really?
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