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On March 11 2024 13:34 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2024 13:27 Jealous wrote:On March 11 2024 13:22 CopCake wrote:On March 11 2024 13:18 CopCake wrote:
Darth, did my team or not conceded a game we were winning because we felt bad for Slam? This can also go to vivax so you can explain jelaous what happened that game. What's Vivax's going rate? How much does he charge to be your advocate? Why do you have to hire outside help to make your own points to justify promises you never delivered on? Should I lawyer up too at this point? Wtf. I don‘t share the opinion of half the game I must be a lawyer
Sarcasm aside, I just want to know what point CopCake is trying to make and apparently you've been selected to make it, so I'm all ears.
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On March 11 2024 13:40 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2024 13:37 Jealous wrote:On March 11 2024 13:34 Vivax wrote:On March 11 2024 13:27 Jealous wrote:On March 11 2024 13:22 CopCake wrote:On March 11 2024 13:18 CopCake wrote:
Darth, did my team or not conceded a game we were winning because we felt bad for Slam? This can also go to vivax so you can explain jelaous what happened that game. What's Vivax's going rate? How much does he charge to be your advocate? Why do you have to hire outside help to make your own points to justify promises you never delivered on? Should I lawyer up too at this point? Wtf. I don‘t share the opinion of half the game I must be a lawyer Sarcasm aside, I just want to know what point CopCake is trying to make and apparently you've been selected to make it, so I'm all ears. I don‘t follow but if Copcake is town here she‘s fighting a massive uphill battle so it‘s hard to sound perfectly reasonaböe.
Jealous: *Posts quotes showing CopCake is being inconsistent and a hypocrite throughout the game*
CopCake: I will post screenshots from another game's Discord. [for some reason, never said what they would show tbh]
CopCake: Oh, Vivax is here.
-- Fast forward until now --
Jealous: So about them screenshots?
CopCake: Vivax was there, I didn't need them.
Jealous: Vivax, what does she mean?
Vivax: She's just having a really tough time right now.
Idk chief, this doesn't sound great, and she's technically not even the leading lynch target right now.
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On March 11 2024 13:45 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2024 13:44 Jealous wrote:On March 11 2024 13:40 Vivax wrote:On March 11 2024 13:37 Jealous wrote:On March 11 2024 13:34 Vivax wrote:On March 11 2024 13:27 Jealous wrote:On March 11 2024 13:22 CopCake wrote:On March 11 2024 13:18 CopCake wrote:
Darth, did my team or not conceded a game we were winning because we felt bad for Slam? This can also go to vivax so you can explain jelaous what happened that game. What's Vivax's going rate? How much does he charge to be your advocate? Why do you have to hire outside help to make your own points to justify promises you never delivered on? Should I lawyer up too at this point? Wtf. I don‘t share the opinion of half the game I must be a lawyer Sarcasm aside, I just want to know what point CopCake is trying to make and apparently you've been selected to make it, so I'm all ears. I don‘t follow but if Copcake is town here she‘s fighting a massive uphill battle so it‘s hard to sound perfectly reasonaböe. Jealous: *Posts quotes showing CopCake is being inconsistent and a hypocrite throughout the game* CopCake: I will post screenshots from another game's Discord. [for some reason, never said what they would show tbh] CopCake: Oh, Vivax is here. -- Fast forward until now --Jealous: So about them screenshots? CopCake: Vivax was there, I didn't need them. Jealous: Vivax, what does she mean? Vivax: She's just having a really tough time right now. Idk chief, this doesn't sound great, and she's technically not even the leading lynch target right now. I think your intent is burying her here not finding out if she is mafia if that helps.
So town!Anyone will make promises of future rebuttals to a case I made, never deliver, hide behind someone else, that someone also never delivers, I make a case about that, and somehow in your eyes I'm supposedly more scum than her after this interaction?
Good to know, I'll adjust my play accordingly.
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On March 11 2024 13:47 Vivax wrote:
She doubted my claim all the time during D1 but that doesn‘t earn her a free townread from Jealous ? Why for Jat then.
Because JAT made the case when it didn't make sense to do so as scum because it painted a target on his back, she sheeped it and came out unscathed, and she has proven that she doesn't know how to read, so her sheeping it is NAI at best, optimistic scum at worst.
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On March 11 2024 14:06 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2024 13:56 DarthPunk wrote:On March 11 2024 13:43 Rels wrote:On March 11 2024 13:15 DarthPunk wrote:On March 11 2024 13:11 Vivax wrote:On March 11 2024 13:09 DarthPunk wrote:
It bothers me because it just gives mafia a blueprint to keep me alive until so that the confirmed unkillable mayor will push for the wrong lynch at mylo.
It is literally that obviously bad what you are doing right now. If you are town then explain to me why Jealous and MZ can‘t be scum. I am not that confident on either of them to say they CAN'T be scum. I think that they are both town though, Jealous, his interactions in the QT were really townie and hard to fake in the moment. Clearing DMB in the way that he did for example, is something I would not expect scum to do in the way that he did. His reads have aligned with mine. His hapa=Town view early was really good and townie imo. MZ: Looks really bad in a way that makes me think he is just fearless townie saying what he believes regardless of the consequences. Has spent heaps of time scum hunting and filter diving this phase when he didn't have to and which is more than can be said for others here. Can you expand on the Jealous thought? What was hard to fake? Totally agree on MZ Just the level of interaction and thought processes that made sense, we talked ALOT in our discord chat, and aside from the one thing that bothered me he came across as townie to me. For example, he really really wanted oats to be lynched and thought he was mafia, and thought that the people not wanting to lynch oats were fishing for scum. Not once did he want to not lynch oats/ Just a whole bunch of really townie takes that I don't think make sense for him. I also don't think his positing on copcake makes any sense if they are partnered. Thanks. Can't comment on the Discord stuff obviously, but I feel like the "people not voting Oats are suspicious" can be a posture or mantra that's easy to follow as scum I didn't like that he went this way against Koshi and Vivax D2 but didn't really have an objective to where he would take him. Even though to my knowledge he didn't get a satisfactory answer, I don't think he got a conclusion on Koshi. I might be wrong (missed the last 24 hours before I came back)
I'd appreciate if you could point to where I "went this way" against Koshi and what you didn't like about it. I know you're busy though so I'm fine waiting, and again, GL with your interviews.
About Vivax, I'm putting off doing the math in my head because right now I have him as a default town read (as per my post), but I wanted to know why he was pushing for a VE second wagon (especially now that we have a confirm on Oats' alignment). He answered that to my satisfaction (he believes both lynches were scum), but he also threw in an accusation toward me. I have addressed this accusation multiple times including a question toward him, but he did not answer. After having brought it up again, I still got no answer. So, what's the point if he's just going to dodge? Just putting that one in the ol' memory banks for when we get rid of people that I find more likely to be scum (Cop and VE), if I stay alive long enough.
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On March 11 2024 14:19 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2024 14:17 Jealous wrote:On March 11 2024 14:06 Rels wrote:On March 11 2024 13:56 DarthPunk wrote:On March 11 2024 13:43 Rels wrote:On March 11 2024 13:15 DarthPunk wrote:On March 11 2024 13:11 Vivax wrote:On March 11 2024 13:09 DarthPunk wrote:
It bothers me because it just gives mafia a blueprint to keep me alive until so that the confirmed unkillable mayor will push for the wrong lynch at mylo.
It is literally that obviously bad what you are doing right now. If you are town then explain to me why Jealous and MZ can‘t be scum. I am not that confident on either of them to say they CAN'T be scum. I think that they are both town though, Jealous, his interactions in the QT were really townie and hard to fake in the moment. Clearing DMB in the way that he did for example, is something I would not expect scum to do in the way that he did. His reads have aligned with mine. His hapa=Town view early was really good and townie imo. MZ: Looks really bad in a way that makes me think he is just fearless townie saying what he believes regardless of the consequences. Has spent heaps of time scum hunting and filter diving this phase when he didn't have to and which is more than can be said for others here. Can you expand on the Jealous thought? What was hard to fake? Totally agree on MZ Just the level of interaction and thought processes that made sense, we talked ALOT in our discord chat, and aside from the one thing that bothered me he came across as townie to me. For example, he really really wanted oats to be lynched and thought he was mafia, and thought that the people not wanting to lynch oats were fishing for scum. Not once did he want to not lynch oats/ Just a whole bunch of really townie takes that I don't think make sense for him. I also don't think his positing on copcake makes any sense if they are partnered. Thanks. Can't comment on the Discord stuff obviously, but I feel like the "people not voting Oats are suspicious" can be a posture or mantra that's easy to follow as scum I didn't like that he went this way against Koshi and Vivax D2 but didn't really have an objective to where he would take him. Even though to my knowledge he didn't get a satisfactory answer, I don't think he got a conclusion on Koshi. I might be wrong (missed the last 24 hours before I came back) I'd appreciate if you could point to where I "went this way" against Koshi and what you didn't like about it. I know you're busy though so I'm fine waiting, and again, GL with your interviews. About Vivax, I'm putting off doing the math in my head because right now I have him as a default town read (as per my post), but I wanted to know why he was pushing for a VE second wagon (especially now that we have a confirm on Oats' alignment). He answered that to my satisfaction (he believes both lynches were scum), but he also threw in an accusation toward me. I have addressed this accusation multiple times including a question toward him, but he did not answer. After having brought it up again, I still got no answer. So, what's the point if he's just going to dodge? Just putting that one in the ol' memory banks for when we get rid of people that I find more likely to be scum (Cop and VE), if I stay alive long enough. Let me see if I didn't make a mistake, but I'm pretty sure that's the thing we talked about yesterday Was actually 2 days ago Show nested quote +On March 09 2024 15:16 Rels wrote:On March 09 2024 15:07 Jealous wrote:On March 09 2024 14:57 Rels wrote:On March 08 2024 11:06 Jealous wrote:On March 08 2024 10:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
You can't all be scum, some of you just have to be dumb. The tricky part is figuring out which is which. Kinda where I'm at, but I'm also thinking it might be smart!town throwing some seeds out there to see who shows up to pick at them. I kinda feel like Koshi and Vivac would generally be too smart to do something so stupid without a reason. Feel like it's been a few hours and beers in me by now so I feel comfortable saying that the bait would already be getting moldy, so no harm in my outing my suspicions that some of these baby wagon attempts are just that: little experiments to see who reacts how. What are you talking about in the last paragraph? Did you do something in order to bait reactions? If yes, what were those things and what were the results you got from them? My initial impression was that Koshi and Vivax were not dumb enough to go against a cop-claimed Alakazam's reveal on scum!Oats, but suddenly here they were, pushing other wagons out of nowhere. So, by eliminating the dumb option, the "smart" option is that Vivax and Koshi are just throwing out bait to see who bites and what those decisions result in. Like running an experiment. However, several hours later I figured the "experiments" (if that's what they were) had already run their course to some extent so I wouldn't be contaminating the results by outing my suspicion that this is what they were doing. This was further bolstered by alcohol in the system. Kinda regretting it now though because I would have loved to see how Koshi and Vivax would have justified their wagon attempts without my saying anything. Now that you know it was real, what do you think of them? Show nested quote +On March 09 2024 15:20 Jealous wrote:On March 09 2024 15:16 Rels wrote:On March 09 2024 15:07 Jealous wrote:On March 09 2024 14:57 Rels wrote:On March 08 2024 11:06 Jealous wrote:On March 08 2024 10:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
You can't all be scum, some of you just have to be dumb. The tricky part is figuring out which is which. Kinda where I'm at, but I'm also thinking it might be smart!town throwing some seeds out there to see who shows up to pick at them. I kinda feel like Koshi and Vivac would generally be too smart to do something so stupid without a reason. Feel like it's been a few hours and beers in me by now so I feel comfortable saying that the bait would already be getting moldy, so no harm in my outing my suspicions that some of these baby wagon attempts are just that: little experiments to see who reacts how. What are you talking about in the last paragraph? Did you do something in order to bait reactions? If yes, what were those things and what were the results you got from them? My initial impression was that Koshi and Vivax were not dumb enough to go against a cop-claimed Alakazam's reveal on scum!Oats, but suddenly here they were, pushing other wagons out of nowhere. So, by eliminating the dumb option, the "smart" option is that Vivax and Koshi are just throwing out bait to see who bites and what those decisions result in. Like running an experiment. However, several hours later I figured the "experiments" (if that's what they were) had already run their course to some extent so I wouldn't be contaminating the results by outing my suspicion that this is what they were doing. This was further bolstered by alcohol in the system. Kinda regretting it now though because I would have loved to see how Koshi and Vivax would have justified their wagon attempts without my saying anything. Now that you know it was real, what do you think of them? Would prefer to hear the aforementioned justifications first, even if they've been diluted. Last one fr fr
Ah well, Koshi hasn't answered yet either IIRC, but to be fair he might have just missed them. Vivax doesn't have that excuse. So, good point.
@Koshi, can you respond to the above? Why did you push a VE wagon at EOD2 over red checked Oats?
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On March 11 2024 20:16 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2024 14:23 Jealous wrote:On March 11 2024 14:19 Rels wrote:On March 11 2024 14:17 Jealous wrote:On March 11 2024 14:06 Rels wrote:On March 11 2024 13:56 DarthPunk wrote:On March 11 2024 13:43 Rels wrote:On March 11 2024 13:15 DarthPunk wrote:On March 11 2024 13:11 Vivax wrote:On March 11 2024 13:09 DarthPunk wrote:
It bothers me because it just gives mafia a blueprint to keep me alive until so that the confirmed unkillable mayor will push for the wrong lynch at mylo.
It is literally that obviously bad what you are doing right now. If you are town then explain to me why Jealous and MZ can‘t be scum. I am not that confident on either of them to say they CAN'T be scum. I think that they are both town though, Jealous, his interactions in the QT were really townie and hard to fake in the moment. Clearing DMB in the way that he did for example, is something I would not expect scum to do in the way that he did. His reads have aligned with mine. His hapa=Town view early was really good and townie imo. MZ: Looks really bad in a way that makes me think he is just fearless townie saying what he believes regardless of the consequences. Has spent heaps of time scum hunting and filter diving this phase when he didn't have to and which is more than can be said for others here. Can you expand on the Jealous thought? What was hard to fake? Totally agree on MZ Just the level of interaction and thought processes that made sense, we talked ALOT in our discord chat, and aside from the one thing that bothered me he came across as townie to me. For example, he really really wanted oats to be lynched and thought he was mafia, and thought that the people not wanting to lynch oats were fishing for scum. Not once did he want to not lynch oats/ Just a whole bunch of really townie takes that I don't think make sense for him. I also don't think his positing on copcake makes any sense if they are partnered. Thanks. Can't comment on the Discord stuff obviously, but I feel like the "people not voting Oats are suspicious" can be a posture or mantra that's easy to follow as scum I didn't like that he went this way against Koshi and Vivax D2 but didn't really have an objective to where he would take him. Even though to my knowledge he didn't get a satisfactory answer, I don't think he got a conclusion on Koshi. I might be wrong (missed the last 24 hours before I came back) I'd appreciate if you could point to where I "went this way" against Koshi and what you didn't like about it. I know you're busy though so I'm fine waiting, and again, GL with your interviews. About Vivax, I'm putting off doing the math in my head because right now I have him as a default town read (as per my post), but I wanted to know why he was pushing for a VE second wagon (especially now that we have a confirm on Oats' alignment). He answered that to my satisfaction (he believes both lynches were scum), but he also threw in an accusation toward me. I have addressed this accusation multiple times including a question toward him, but he did not answer. After having brought it up again, I still got no answer. So, what's the point if he's just going to dodge? Just putting that one in the ol' memory banks for when we get rid of people that I find more likely to be scum (Cop and VE), if I stay alive long enough. Let me see if I didn't make a mistake, but I'm pretty sure that's the thing we talked about yesterday Was actually 2 days ago On March 09 2024 15:16 Rels wrote:On March 09 2024 15:07 Jealous wrote:On March 09 2024 14:57 Rels wrote:On March 08 2024 11:06 Jealous wrote:On March 08 2024 10:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
You can't all be scum, some of you just have to be dumb. The tricky part is figuring out which is which. Kinda where I'm at, but I'm also thinking it might be smart!town throwing some seeds out there to see who shows up to pick at them. I kinda feel like Koshi and Vivac would generally be too smart to do something so stupid without a reason. Feel like it's been a few hours and beers in me by now so I feel comfortable saying that the bait would already be getting moldy, so no harm in my outing my suspicions that some of these baby wagon attempts are just that: little experiments to see who reacts how. What are you talking about in the last paragraph? Did you do something in order to bait reactions? If yes, what were those things and what were the results you got from them? My initial impression was that Koshi and Vivax were not dumb enough to go against a cop-claimed Alakazam's reveal on scum!Oats, but suddenly here they were, pushing other wagons out of nowhere. So, by eliminating the dumb option, the "smart" option is that Vivax and Koshi are just throwing out bait to see who bites and what those decisions result in. Like running an experiment. However, several hours later I figured the "experiments" (if that's what they were) had already run their course to some extent so I wouldn't be contaminating the results by outing my suspicion that this is what they were doing. This was further bolstered by alcohol in the system. Kinda regretting it now though because I would have loved to see how Koshi and Vivax would have justified their wagon attempts without my saying anything. Now that you know it was real, what do you think of them? On March 09 2024 15:20 Jealous wrote:On March 09 2024 15:16 Rels wrote:On March 09 2024 15:07 Jealous wrote:On March 09 2024 14:57 Rels wrote:On March 08 2024 11:06 Jealous wrote:On March 08 2024 10:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
You can't all be scum, some of you just have to be dumb. The tricky part is figuring out which is which. Kinda where I'm at, but I'm also thinking it might be smart!town throwing some seeds out there to see who shows up to pick at them. I kinda feel like Koshi and Vivac would generally be too smart to do something so stupid without a reason. Feel like it's been a few hours and beers in me by now so I feel comfortable saying that the bait would already be getting moldy, so no harm in my outing my suspicions that some of these baby wagon attempts are just that: little experiments to see who reacts how. What are you talking about in the last paragraph? Did you do something in order to bait reactions? If yes, what were those things and what were the results you got from them? My initial impression was that Koshi and Vivax were not dumb enough to go against a cop-claimed Alakazam's reveal on scum!Oats, but suddenly here they were, pushing other wagons out of nowhere. So, by eliminating the dumb option, the "smart" option is that Vivax and Koshi are just throwing out bait to see who bites and what those decisions result in. Like running an experiment. However, several hours later I figured the "experiments" (if that's what they were) had already run their course to some extent so I wouldn't be contaminating the results by outing my suspicion that this is what they were doing. This was further bolstered by alcohol in the system. Kinda regretting it now though because I would have loved to see how Koshi and Vivax would have justified their wagon attempts without my saying anything. Now that you know it was real, what do you think of them? Would prefer to hear the aforementioned justifications first, even if they've been diluted. Last one fr fr Ah well, Koshi hasn't answered yet either IIRC, but to be fair he might have just missed them. Vivax doesn't have that excuse. So, good point. @Koshi, can you respond to the above? Why did you push a VE wagon at EOD2 over red checked Oats? I pushed against the Oats wagon the entire day. I thought Oats wasnt be mafia. I was very sure about it.
Well, at least you are sticking to your guns here. Even in the sight of the red check, you placed faith in your read, I guess.
I guess the natural conclusion is that you thought VE was so scummy that it overrode the red check on Oats, and that is still the case now, so I am not going to ask the question but feel free to correct me if I am mistaken somehow.
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On March 12 2024 05:46 DarthPunk wrote:
If we lynch ve and I die tonight are any of you gonna be able to lynch cake without me here? What is the plan for her? Talk taking her to mylo?
There's nothing I've seen so far that would make not vote for her.
I feel like VE seems to be a stronger scum read for most people - which I can understand, to some extent - and people might just feel bad for her or something. So, maybe once people sate their thirst for lynching VE, Cake will be the next-best option for at least some of them.
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I too would like to see CopCake's reads, but something tells me that my asking for that will not result in the desired outcome either, as we're currently batting 0/2 on requests fulfilled.
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Feels like Koshi went into that filter with the outcome already in mind.
For example - and please correct me if I'm mistaken - she invited people to that tea party before she had any reads, very early on in the game where there was almost nothing to go off of, and then gave every attendant town cards for free. That's basically pocketing, isn't it?
It's also funny to me that you accept her calling other people as bad/beneath them as "sass" and is part of why you like her, then she comes in here to throw a pity party for herself because she is "sensitive." Does it make sense for a sensitive person to be antagonizing people like this and then cry victim later? I mean, I guess it does happen, and emotions are not logical, but it just feels like some sort of forced narrative to me and hypocritical in general.
TLDR: I think that most of what Cop does is NAI at best, scummy at worst. Throwing out 10 posts with 3-4 minute intervals but none of them landing in terms of logic, game state, or pushing scum does not a townie make.
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On March 12 2024 07:21 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2024 07:19 DarthPunk wrote:On March 12 2024 07:17 Koshi wrote:
I think now both are mafia. I think this also fully clears MZ. why the change of heart? The martyr most likely. It just read like "fuck it, we are both fucked ve, who goes out first doesnt matter anymore"
Could also be one last attempt at WIFOM "Scum wouldn't really tell another scum to avenge them while martyring themselves, right? No one sensible would actually do that, right?!"
Therein lies the trick, though.
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If she told multiple people they are bad and that they aren't worthy, called other people asses and told people she didn't give a fuck, she has no ground to stand on and neither do people defending her. That all started in D1. If she can dish it out, she should be able to take it.
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On March 12 2024 07:48 Koshi wrote:
Worst martyr vote ever. It just is.
I am angry at it.
It is truly wild that we are splitting our vote between two martyrs on D3. Disgusting tbh. This game has been pretty dang good up until recently IMO.
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On March 12 2024 07:51 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2024 07:50 Jealous wrote:On March 12 2024 07:48 Koshi wrote:
Worst martyr vote ever. It just is.
I am angry at it. It is truly wild that we are splitting our vote between two martyrs on D3. Disgusting tbh. This game has been pretty dang good up until recently IMO. maybe they have fun in scumQT with it and that is the only way this is acceptable.
Agreed. If either one of them flips town that should be a warning or a one game ban or something IMO. As others have said, it's basically policy lynch exclusive on the menu for D3 and possibly D4, too.
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On March 12 2024 07:57 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2024 07:49 die_meatbaby wrote:
Why do they both voting themselves? It's an appeal to emotion IMO.
I feel this needs to be brought up again in this context:
On March 06 2024 22:33 CopCake wrote:
And you know I find appeal to emotion tasteless
Not just doing it herself, but TRing VE who is also doing it at the same time. That is some galaxy brain stuff.
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On March 12 2024 08:38 Vivax wrote:
Giving DP his lynch
Low key shade on me tbh.
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On March 12 2024 09:03 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2024 08:44 Koshi wrote:
The only that makes sense to me is that they are both mafia but VE RBer.
That is the only thing that makes sense to me right now.
But dont get me wrong. Vote cake out today. I want to see her to flip red. Or to see my anger justified if she flips green. What anger? you just said you thought she was mafia.
I'm guessing anger at a townie playing so anti-town.
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On March 12 2024 09:41 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2024 18:48 Koshi wrote:On March 11 2024 13:02 Rels wrote:
Fuck already midnight. I thought I was only going to play for 30 minutes. I have 2 interviews tomorrow morning ... wish me luck! Good luck friend. Hope you get both, and they have to tripple your salary outbidding the other company. Thanks :D One went well, the other got rescheduled to tomorrow, I literally have 4 interviews tomorrow now lol And it's the opposite, I got a dream position right now working for a big tech company, until now it was OK to work from Montréal, but with the stupid return to office policies, I would have to move to a hub like Vancouver or Toronto or Seattle to continue like I am today, or I'll get laid off ... but I don't want to move, so I'm interviewing the few teams that are on Montréal ... not a lot of options so it's make or break!
RTO is fucking cancer.
#foreverremote
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On March 12 2024 10:57 iamperfection wrote:
before i get clouded by the result of this. I dont think a mafia rels comes in here to save cop whatever cop is like he did here.
Does scum!iamp sheep him though? 🤣
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