Winter Warfare Mafia - Page 6

On December 11 2023 09:50 DarthPunk wrote:


That is important imo objectively important

On December 11 2023 10:09 DarthPunk wrote:


Did you get his permission to do this?

On December 11 2023 10:10 die_meatbaby wrote:

sorry getting active now. The thing is i don´t like how Koshi is just like 100% sure that Trfel is Town and just almost every post from him is like trying to save him. But also if Koshi is mafia he wouldn´t be that activ.

On December 11 2023 10:15 DarthPunk wrote:
I have a 55 page report due in 3 days, this game is killing my productivity, I think im an addict. :D

On December 11 2023 10:19 die_meatbaby wrote:


That´s the first really helpfull post you ever made in any game i have played with you.

On December 11 2023 10:24 Palmar wrote:
Vivax’s filter is terrible lol

On December 11 2023 10:27 die_meatbaby wrote:

I will print it, frame it and put in front of to the toilet

On December 11 2023 20:36 Palmar wrote:
I promised a list post earlier, so here's some Palmar thoughts:

I am not lynching Slam today. My 100% town read is obviously overblown but I think in general he is ok. I have become more suspicious of him recently but he's firmly in the list of unlynchables today.

I am not lynching Trfel. My initial call still makes sense, mafia doesn't excitedly want to dump their shit in the thread. Mafia dreads posting. He's also been active albeit not very useful.

I an not lynching DP today. His effort is high, his reads are mostly decent and his entire thread presence looks like someone that's actually trying. Love him stirring shit up like this.

I am not lynching dmb today, if only for the fact that he's so annoyed at me for being me, yet still agrees through "independent research" that Vivax should be killed. You're a strong independent person!

I am not lynching Koshi today. I went through his filter and he pretty much sees the game exactly as I do. He's half-assedly trying to break up what I agree are TvT fights. He calls Vivax boring before I do. Pretty good performance.

I am not lynching rayn today. He's looked town for a while and immediately recognized me being town without any qualifiers or anything.

This leaves the following list:

Vivax
Marv
Sandroba
Chezinu
Holyflare

Out of those Chezinu is just a crapshoot lynch if we have nothing better. We absolutely have something better. Holyflare hasn't really done much but I also have not really spotted any reason to kill him right now.

If I was to guess a mafia team on this day 1 it'd be Vivax, Marv, Sandroba.

I've somewhat said things about Sandroba and Vivax. The problem I have with marv is his unenthusiastic response to the Vivax accusation. Throw in the defeat-ist response just now to DP's case. It's not hard to tell a towny he's an idiot, but marv seems almost... too tired?

I think the case against Vivax is the strongest one. I'll see if I can find time to flesh it out a little bit more into an actual case, but his filter is just sooo sooo boring and terrible. He's absolutely not trying to solve the game. As a side note, and this is mostly a personal thing, when I made my first list post I had opinions on pretty much everyone that has posted EXCEPT for Vivax. That's how unremarkable his contributions were.

Unremarkable and boring is almost always mafia.

As a side note, I had completely forgotten how rayn is like only 99% literate. It's hilarious the semantics and shit he gets stuck on and argues with.

I'm pretty happy with this day one.

On December 11 2023 20:42 DarthPunk wrote:
If you can't be bothered reading the big post (you really fucking should)

This is a snapshot. a pretty egregious case of incongruence:

Rayn asks for an opinion on holyflare. Marv is.... Non-commital.





Two unrelated posts later.


7B


Marv thinks holyflare is town, or at least not mafia because he can follow his thoughts. Why does Marv not say that in the first place? Why does he say nothing at all when it is clear he in fact has something to say?

between those posts, holyflare had not posted a thing.

On December 11 2023 22:03 marvellosity wrote:
By the way Palmar, or anyone who cares to read. The reason for my responses to DP being low energy is that basically every game we played this year DP has made a mega case on me pointing out inconsistencies and incongruities (that aren’t true) and twisting my entire filter into a scummy narrative.

The thing is, if he does this to me every time we play, sometimes I’m town, sometimes I’m mafia, but DP is only right sometimes because I am sometimes mafia. A broken clock is right twice a day.

It is tiring hearing the same case over and over, as nothing in it ever makes me mafia, he has no idea how to read me, he just makes the same case every game. It’s tedious that that becomes the focal point of my attention, rather than happily bumbling along with my suspicions on sandro and Vivax.

On December 11 2023 22:04 Vivax wrote:
I also plan on being entertaining when the mood is right, unlike pornstars you don't see my jokes coming from miles away. Right now the mood is that there's a lot of, pardon, excrement tier of information flying about and I'd rather find mafia without having to read every single post in here cause some guys I won't call out write like they wake up every morning with an adderall IV drip in their veins.

On December 11 2023 22:29 Holyflare wrote:


You think the world is that mafia went after mafia who OMGUSed back onto their mafia partner, just for the 3rd mafia partner to pick one of the mafia partners to start tunelling?

What on earth

On December 11 2023 23:51 Palmar wrote:
The people are pleased with your suffering Vivax.

On December 12 2023 00:12 marvellosity wrote:

As explained by multiple people now, it is bad.

On December 12 2023 00:23 Palmar wrote:


Why we should lynch Vivax

The case has been made pretty well by more people than me. The gist of it is that his early filter simply doesn't look like he's actually trying to solve the game. He's just floating along and asking boring questions. a particularly egregious one is this one:



Like... who cares dude? How is this a thing?

Then there's all the commentary on the thread "Palmar seems sure of himself" (no shit?), "rayn doesn't look eager for conclusions." Some random questions to random people with no appearance of any kind of critical thread he's chasing.

I'm not gonna make a massive case because the essence is pretty much this:





Like I honestly can't think of a more deserving day 1 lynch. Also for people who think "blue hunting" is a thing:



Which it obviously isn't and thinking this way is a very bad way of playing the game, Vivax already claimed VT so who cares.

I have some reasons not to lynch all the other candidates (well maybe not sandroba, but whatever). Marv and HF will reveal themselves to be mafia if they are, and Chez would just be a default lynch if we had no options.

Vivax is objectively the best lynch because I can't think of a single reason to keep him alive...


How we should lynch Vivax

If you're town your vote should be on Vivax and because of the weird deadline we should be incredibly resistant to shenanigans. If we last minute derail the lynch the chances are going down the drain we hit mafia AND it will reduce the information we have from the voting, even if I'm wrong (I'm not).

The reason we lose information is that bunch of people will be sleeping at the deadline and thus cannot commit one way or another in any last minute vote train.

If you don't agree with killing Vivax you need to present your findings as soon as possible, there really isn't that much left in the day.

We don't need Rambo players in this town going after their own lynch. You're only allowed to be town and not vote Vivax if you can make the case that he isn't mafia. Just making a case one someone else (like DP on Marv) isn't enough. This isn't about bragging rights, it's about maintaining control.

Also the first person who talks about the wagon being too easy should be shot.

What Vivax's death means

This is the hard part. If he flips mafia we get a bunch of good information. If he is mafia his friends have long since thrown him under the bus. Don't expect to find mafia in the resistance to the Vivax mafia lynch.

If he flips town it's more likely to find mafia in the resistance, but probably among the less vocal resistance. People who seem unsure or claim to be happy to lynch Vivax but maybe want to lynch someone else? Those are the people you need to focus on.

People who blindly sheep the case or do it because they genuinely believe in it are more likely to be town, regardless of alignment. Remember of course to only use the information up to this post, as I've just told the mafia how to appear town :D

Honestly even if Vivax flips town I don't think I need to reconsider my list of people all that much. There's still people who are following the case in a townie way and scummy way.

On December 12 2023 00:39 Trfel wrote:
Vivax, what gives?