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I really thought I had a chance to be lynched today. But no. Vivax needs to cheat  ((
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Will read previous game and this game after making and eating dinner. Saw iamp was mafia. #koshisogood
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On August 26 2023 11:01 iamperfection wrote:
thank god. you know how depressed i was to get scum in the one game ill probably able to play all year
I noticed it.
Also the not trying to solve the game at all around the townslips.
Also the not denieing your own townslip and even somewhat pointing it out you did it.
But I saw TTT was also caught so ezgame ezlife.
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On August 26 2023 12:10 iamperfection wrote:
delusional is certainly one word i would use to describe you.
Why so angry?
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On August 27 2023 04:57 mathenalin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2023 04:55 Koshi wrote:On August 26 2023 11:01 iamperfection wrote:
thank god. you know how depressed i was to get scum in the one game ill probably able to play all year I noticed it. Also the not trying to solve the game at all around the townslips. Also the not denieing your own townslip and even somewhat pointing it out you did it. But I saw TTT was also caught so ezgame ezlife. Damn thats some smart shit
Yes, I is Koshi
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On August 26 2023 13:57 JacobStrangelove wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2023 13:38 iamperfection wrote:
we go from skirting the rules punk to boy scout punk. Just anecdotally you seem more on point with these calls this game. Could be a well we just lost a game due to this result punk tho so I'll not say it means anything about him more you though. I like you better this game.
Hmmmm on point is not the word I would use. Maybe confrontational. It's different not sure better. Pressuring Chez is 100% pointless.
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On August 26 2023 19:41 Vivax wrote:
Cheez in u
is
cheesin u
How did I notice just now.
Just before my off days, not bad. Have yet to fully read last game but we could call it a preliminary turbo that was a welcome warm-up for some. Tells us how quickly we turn to wrong guesses, RIGHT KOSHI? Sorry Rayn :D
Glad to have y'all, anyways. No drama around me either. Many spiked ladders in my mind to go still.
You deserved everything I threw at you. Pretty sure I would have lynched iamp in the 1-2 hours I would have had to play.
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On August 27 2023 05:06 mathenalin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2023 05:04 Koshi wrote:On August 26 2023 13:57 JacobStrangelove wrote:On August 26 2023 13:38 iamperfection wrote:
we go from skirting the rules punk to boy scout punk. Just anecdotally you seem more on point with these calls this game. Could be a well we just lost a game due to this result punk tho so I'll not say it means anything about him more you though. I like you better this game. Hmmmm on point is not the word I would use. Maybe confrontational. It's different not sure better. Pressuring Chez is 100% pointless. Do you have a way of reading him?
No. Each day just start your vote on Chez and only remove it if you find mafia.
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Dp/rayn/marv scumteam
##Vote DP
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Or is iamp too angry? Decisions decisions
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On August 27 2023 05:34 LightningStrike wrote:Why you voting DP? Also isn't it a little to early to form a scumteam?
Because it makes me happy.
Maybe yes, mayne no.
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On August 27 2023 05:53 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2023 05:50 Koshi wrote:On August 27 2023 05:34 LightningStrike wrote:On August 27 2023 05:25 Koshi wrote:
Dp/rayn/marv scumteam
##Vote DP Why you voting DP? Also isn't it a little to early to form a scumteam? Because it makes me happy. Maybe yes, mayne no. So no reason other than to make yourself happy?
Secret reasons that arzn't good enough to write down lol.
You want to talk iamp meta?
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On August 27 2023 06:18 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2023 05:56 Koshi wrote:On August 27 2023 05:53 LightningStrike wrote:On August 27 2023 05:50 Koshi wrote:On August 27 2023 05:34 LightningStrike wrote:On August 27 2023 05:25 Koshi wrote:
Dp/rayn/marv scumteam
##Vote DP Why you voting DP? Also isn't it a little to early to form a scumteam? Because it makes me happy. Maybe yes, mayne no. So no reason other than to make yourself happy? Secret reasons that arzn't good enough to write down lol. You want to talk iamp meta? He hasn't made a lot posts so far but maybe slight differences from last game?
+1
Together we are 2
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On August 27 2023 06:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:something's wrong at least, but still not lynching you, sorry bro 
BFFs till day 3. ❤
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On August 27 2023 06:44 Vivax wrote:
Koshi you were awesome.
You are forgiven.
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On August 27 2023 10:43 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2023 06:40 Koshi wrote:On August 27 2023 06:18 LightningStrike wrote:On August 27 2023 05:56 Koshi wrote:On August 27 2023 05:53 LightningStrike wrote:On August 27 2023 05:50 Koshi wrote:On August 27 2023 05:34 LightningStrike wrote:On August 27 2023 05:25 Koshi wrote:
Dp/rayn/marv scumteam
##Vote DP Why you voting DP? Also isn't it a little to early to form a scumteam? Because it makes me happy. Maybe yes, mayne no. So no reason other than to make yourself happy? Secret reasons that arzn't good enough to write down lol. You want to talk iamp meta? He hasn't made a lot posts so far but maybe slight differences from last game? +1 Together we are 2 I made zero posts at this point (aside from a post saying I wasn't posting) How are there slight differences from last game Koshi? The difference is stark Explained and verifiable the only thing that smells bad is trying to imply it's more than it is.
As mafia it is hard to read propperly. Just isnt as much fun.
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On August 27 2023 17:26 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2023 16:49 Koshi wrote:On August 27 2023 10:43 DarthPunk wrote:On August 27 2023 06:40 Koshi wrote:On August 27 2023 06:18 LightningStrike wrote:On August 27 2023 05:56 Koshi wrote:On August 27 2023 05:53 LightningStrike wrote:On August 27 2023 05:50 Koshi wrote:On August 27 2023 05:34 LightningStrike wrote:On August 27 2023 05:25 Koshi wrote:
Dp/rayn/marv scumteam
##Vote DP Why you voting DP? Also isn't it a little to early to form a scumteam? Because it makes me happy. Maybe yes, mayne no. So no reason other than to make yourself happy? Secret reasons that arzn't good enough to write down lol. You want to talk iamp meta? He hasn't made a lot posts so far but maybe slight differences from last game? +1 Together we are 2 I made zero posts at this point (aside from a post saying I wasn't posting) How are there slight differences from last game Koshi? The difference is stark Explained and verifiable the only thing that smells bad is trying to imply it's more than it is. As mafia it is hard to read propperly. Just isnt as much fun. Can you explain yourself please? If you are just doing this to try and get lynched I can totally oblige.
A good mafia strategy is to scan the thread for your name ans attack the people attacking you.
However, I would suggest to attack arguments made against you and not other people. That's just overkill.
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On August 27 2023 17:34 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2023 17:32 Koshi wrote:On August 27 2023 17:26 DarthPunk wrote:On August 27 2023 16:49 Koshi wrote:On August 27 2023 10:43 DarthPunk wrote:On August 27 2023 06:40 Koshi wrote:On August 27 2023 06:18 LightningStrike wrote:On August 27 2023 05:56 Koshi wrote:On August 27 2023 05:53 LightningStrike wrote:On August 27 2023 05:50 Koshi wrote:
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Because it makes me happy.
Maybe yes, mayne no. So no reason other than to make yourself happy? Secret reasons that arzn't good enough to write down lol. You want to talk iamp meta? He hasn't made a lot posts so far but maybe slight differences from last game? +1 Together we are 2 I made zero posts at this point (aside from a post saying I wasn't posting) How are there slight differences from last game Koshi? The difference is stark Explained and verifiable the only thing that smells bad is trying to imply it's more than it is. As mafia it is hard to read propperly. Just isnt as much fun. Can you explain yourself please? If you are just doing this to try and get lynched I can totally oblige. A good mafia strategy is to scan the thread for your name ans attack the people attacking you. However, I would suggest to attack arguments made against you and not other people. That's just overkill. What are you talking about? are you saying I was doing that? If so then you should just say it rather than imply it. I read the whole thread as both alignments FYI so I would never use that strategy. I also don't think it's a good strategy. So...
We were talking about iamp not you.
You take something personal that wasn't even directed at you.
What is the word for that. Inherent guilt or something like that.
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I would have preffered to be lynched yesterday. Is that still possible?
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So I don't want to lynch math; mebaby and iamp.
I tried my bestest with DP but clicked his filter and he is on 4 pages so probably not a good idea.
Felt like he was the most active/townie person last game and completely disappeared this game so felt like a good place to start.
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On August 28 2023 03:53 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 03:52 Koshi wrote:
I would have preffered to be lynched yesterday. Is that still possible? we could fit it in today if your still gonna be like this
yes yes. You guys want me to perform to ease your mind. It's ok. I have time now.
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just to explain my abesnce.
Yesterday went to Paira Daiza which is a zoo. And for some reason 4g was non existent there. For some weird reason I didn't check the game till I was at the zoo/park and didn't know there was a new game till I arrived yesterday.
Today I had a flea market and a BBQ organised by the street my wife/gf lived in. So I tried to sometimes read something but wasn't easy with 2 kids to manage and we were already late due to flee market etc etc etc.
So now everybody is asleep and I am ready to do things.
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On August 28 2023 03:57 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 03:56 Koshi wrote:
So I don't want to lynch math; mebaby and iamp.
I tried my bestest with DP but clicked his filter and he is on 4 pages so probably not a good idea.
Felt like he was the most active/townie person last game and completely disappeared this game so felt like a good place to start. we knew dp wasnt going to post at the start
I didn't. Except if you mean the game thing with TTT.
I didn't read anything from the previous game yet.
It was a good place to start but the pressure wasn't ideal. I understand. Wanted to get a reaction but it kinda felt bad.
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On August 28 2023 04:01 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 03:56 Koshi wrote:
So I don't want to lynch math; mebaby and iamp.
I tried my bestest with DP but clicked his filter and he is on 4 pages so probably not a good idea.
Felt like he was the most active/townie person last game and completely disappeared this game so felt like a good place to start. Why do you like DMB
Opening felt genuine. I can see her wanting to play mafia and being sad rolling town and making a post about it.
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On August 28 2023 04:03 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 04:01 marvellosity wrote:On August 28 2023 03:56 Koshi wrote:
So I don't want to lynch math; mebaby and iamp.
I tried my bestest with DP but clicked his filter and he is on 4 pages so probably not a good idea.
Felt like he was the most active/townie person last game and completely disappeared this game so felt like a good place to start. Why do you like DMB Opening felt genuine. I can see her wanting to play mafia and being sad rolling town and making a post about it.
Making that post instant lying about her feelings is possible but would be very nice scumplay.
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On August 28 2023 04:05 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 04:03 Koshi wrote:On August 28 2023 04:01 marvellosity wrote:On August 28 2023 03:56 Koshi wrote:
So I don't want to lynch math; mebaby and iamp.
I tried my bestest with DP but clicked his filter and he is on 4 pages so probably not a good idea.
Felt like he was the most active/townie person last game and completely disappeared this game so felt like a good place to start. Why do you like DMB Opening felt genuine. I can see her wanting to play mafia and being sad rolling town and making a post about it. Okay. But how hard for a mafia to do that given this is a re-roll. Sort of changes some dynamics I think. Last game was like less than 48h, you lose all energy for your alignment because you rolled the same as a barely-existent game?
I don't understand what you are saying.
What I am saying is. She wanted to play mafia. She rolled town. She is sad. She makes a post about it.
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I am going to start looking into DP anyway.
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On August 28 2023 04:06 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 04:05 Koshi wrote:On August 28 2023 04:03 Koshi wrote:On August 28 2023 04:01 marvellosity wrote:On August 28 2023 03:56 Koshi wrote:
So I don't want to lynch math; mebaby and iamp.
I tried my bestest with DP but clicked his filter and he is on 4 pages so probably not a good idea.
Felt like he was the most active/townie person last game and completely disappeared this game so felt like a good place to start. Why do you like DMB Opening felt genuine. I can see her wanting to play mafia and being sad rolling town and making a post about it. Making that post instant lying about her feelings is possible but would be very nice scumplay. i dont know about that. she barely posted in the game when excited to be mafia for the record.
That's not my point.
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On August 27 2023 10:43 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2023 06:40 Koshi wrote:On August 27 2023 06:18 LightningStrike wrote:On August 27 2023 05:56 Koshi wrote:On August 27 2023 05:53 LightningStrike wrote:On August 27 2023 05:50 Koshi wrote:On August 27 2023 05:34 LightningStrike wrote:On August 27 2023 05:25 Koshi wrote:
Dp/rayn/marv scumteam
##Vote DP Why you voting DP? Also isn't it a little to early to form a scumteam? Because it makes me happy. Maybe yes, mayne no. So no reason other than to make yourself happy? Secret reasons that arzn't good enough to write down lol. You want to talk iamp meta? He hasn't made a lot posts so far but maybe slight differences from last game? +1 Together we are 2 I made zero posts at this point (aside from a post saying I wasn't posting) How are there slight differences from last game Koshi? The difference is stark Explained and verifiable the only thing that smells bad is trying to imply it's more than it is.
I still have issues with this.
It clearly was about iamp.
And he makes it about him.
Shows he is not reading carefully. But anyway.
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On August 28 2023 04:09 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 04:07 Koshi wrote:On August 28 2023 04:06 iamperfection wrote:On August 28 2023 04:05 Koshi wrote:On August 28 2023 04:03 Koshi wrote:On August 28 2023 04:01 marvellosity wrote:On August 28 2023 03:56 Koshi wrote:
So I don't want to lynch math; mebaby and iamp.
I tried my bestest with DP but clicked his filter and he is on 4 pages so probably not a good idea.
Felt like he was the most active/townie person last game and completely disappeared this game so felt like a good place to start. Why do you like DMB Opening felt genuine. I can see her wanting to play mafia and being sad rolling town and making a post about it. Making that post instant lying about her feelings is possible but would be very nice scumplay. i dont know about that. she barely posted in the game when excited to be mafia for the record. That's not my point. And your point is valid, but so is iamp’s. If that makes sense to everyone
If he made that comment not to pressure me but to tell me the sky is blue. Than I am fine with it.
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DP can easily be mafia.
Vivax is talking gibberish and I don't understand what he means with timelines and iamp.
But why the fuck is DP just hammering into him like that? Nothing positive can come out of that and he claims Vivax is clearly mafia while Vivax is just being dumb.
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On August 27 2023 17:32 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2023 16:49 marvellosity wrote:
Well, I actually don’t have much to say. Vivax’s posts felt obtuse and I thought I recognised misdirection there from when we were scum together. But he argued about it so damn much this time which is a different look and more classically ‘vivax’ I am basically sitting in this boat, at the end I thought he seemed to make a lot more sense, but im wondering if he is actually as oblivious as he was making himself out to be. Cause Re-reading that fight we had, it was really, really hard to not understand, and I feel like he would literally 'have' to play the misunderstanding angle to have me let go of it.
As soon he gets pressure for his shitfight he drops it.
So in his head Vivax was being an idiot to just fuck with him? And that makes Vivax mafia?
Don't buy it. He went over the top way too fast.
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Also tinfoil.
The misunderstanding with Vivax.
The exact same thing he did with me.
Like how do you not reread the quotes and see that I was talking with LS about iamp meta?
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On August 28 2023 04:27 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 04:25 Koshi wrote:On August 27 2023 17:32 DarthPunk wrote:On August 27 2023 16:49 marvellosity wrote:
Well, I actually don’t have much to say. Vivax’s posts felt obtuse and I thought I recognised misdirection there from when we were scum together. But he argued about it so damn much this time which is a different look and more classically ‘vivax’ I am basically sitting in this boat, at the end I thought he seemed to make a lot more sense, but im wondering if he is actually as oblivious as he was making himself out to be. Cause Re-reading that fight we had, it was really, really hard to not understand, and I feel like he would literally 'have' to play the misunderstanding angle to have me let go of it. As soon he gets pressure for his shitfight he drops it. So in his head Vivax was being an idiot to just fuck with him? And that makes Vivax mafia? Don't buy it. He went over the top way too fast. You two have met right?
What? No. I haven't seen anybody irl.
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On August 28 2023 04:27 Koshi wrote:
Also tinfoil.
The misunderstanding with Vivax.
The exact same thing he did with me.
Like how do you not reread the quotes and see that I was talking with LS about iamp meta?
The tinfoil being that mafia play is being retarded for no good reason just to fuck with somebody.
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On August 28 2023 04:28 iamperfection wrote:
do you really think a mafia DP comes into a dead thread and shits it up to put a spotlight on himself?
if you put it like that.
Yes. Because he did it first with Vivax and then with me.
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On August 27 2023 19:56 DarthPunk wrote:
I could lynch DMB at this point also.
On August 27 2023 19:59 DarthPunk wrote:
Marv and Vivax, how do you feel about Mathenalin's day one this game compared to last game's day one?
Completely open questions. No substance behind it.
He even liked mathenalin his post.
Let's see if he follows up
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On August 28 2023 04:29 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 04:27 Koshi wrote:On August 28 2023 04:27 marvellosity wrote:On August 28 2023 04:25 Koshi wrote:On August 27 2023 17:32 DarthPunk wrote:On August 27 2023 16:49 marvellosity wrote:
Well, I actually don’t have much to say. Vivax’s posts felt obtuse and I thought I recognised misdirection there from when we were scum together. But he argued about it so damn much this time which is a different look and more classically ‘vivax’ I am basically sitting in this boat, at the end I thought he seemed to make a lot more sense, but im wondering if he is actually as oblivious as he was making himself out to be. Cause Re-reading that fight we had, it was really, really hard to not understand, and I feel like he would literally 'have' to play the misunderstanding angle to have me let go of it. As soon he gets pressure for his shitfight he drops it. So in his head Vivax was being an idiot to just fuck with him? And that makes Vivax mafia? Don't buy it. He went over the top way too fast. You two have met right? What? No. I haven't seen anybody irl. I was being too cryptic. I mean - you know what he’s like right. It’s why I have a struggle reading DP, he does things I don’t think he should think or do, but it turns out he does.
Hmm. Last game he was tiptoptown.
The other game I think I would never had him as mafia except with TTT and that was superunlikely.
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After that DP does nothing.
So really activity is the only reason to not lynch him.
Him fucking up the thread and misreading obvious things would be a good reason to lynch him.
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On August 28 2023 03:43 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 03:39 iamperfection wrote:
ve is being very nice and it disturbs me It’s not the niceness that disturbs me. His vote is on someone who is suspicious of the other person he’s suspicious of, based on a rule he’s warning his vote target that people take seriously (although he doesn’t but also does) except no one else is taking it seriously.
Why is this the only thing in your filter I could sheep marv? You are making my life harder.
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On August 27 2023 20:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think ismp looks very different from last game. Here i feel like he is actually interested inthe topics he takes part to (hope this answers your wuestion yesterday as well mathenalin).
Marv i had some restrictions early on, namely the "No" post where he after that somehow felt the need to wxplain the "no" for some reason. Idk it felt unnecessary. However his posting today i agree a lot with, the only reason i am not writing him off a firm town read is because he is defs capable pf that as mafia, sonce we are not really talking about scumreads here. Anyways id say town here.
Idk why Jacob is being scumread. He's more careless than before restart but you can probably tell why if you reslly think about it..
I dont think Vivax is mafia. Probably strongest town read after iamp. DP also looks "good" from the argument, but just because he was being logical and letting go ehen he "needed to" doesnt make him town. Definitely still townie side.
I also read mathenalin town just for being invested, but not a strong read, could still be mafia. I also read him town before restart, for the same reasons. Idk if it was a legit reasonto read him town for though.
TTT is probably town. Here he is actually asking about some relevant shit, before restart it was pretty... lol, i mean where he faked interest as mafia.
Everyone else can be mafia for now. Chezinu i dont even really care to read D1, dont hate the votes on him atm. Just dont know if what Jacob said is true. Koshi said some Koshi-smart stuff early on (before his marv/dp/rayn scum post). After that no smart. DMB has just not really posted.
Is someone else in the game? Let me look.
I am fine with this. I agree except DP. Math is fine. iamp same. TTT I haven't read a post from except 1 in DP filter so can't say.
TTT next.
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jacob next as well. So hard to read.
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I don't know if I like TTT full filter though. Feels like he is waiting on something to happen and jump on it. He is making really safe/"smart" posts and I can see a sneaky mafia. Would I ever lynch TTT with that filter? No. Can I say he is not mafia? No.
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On August 28 2023 04:47 Koshi wrote:
I don't know if I like TTT full filter though. Feels like he is waiting on something to happen and jump on it. He is making really safe/"smart" posts and I can see a sneaky mafia. Would I ever lynch TTT with that filter? No. Can I say he is not mafia? No.
Ok wanted to quote a post on top in which he perfectly describes DP his actions against Vivax. That got lost after looking into typogate lol
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Must say. After reading DP vs Vivax. Didn't think it was possible but Typogate is even dumber.
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I am going to hardpass on Jacob today. I can't penetrate his brain.
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On August 28 2023 04:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##vote VisceraEyes
fuck me.
I feel like VE and I are like Trump and Biden supporters that respect ach other but can't really understand each other very well. I love his presence but each game I read his posts and I just don't understand it.
And I know you guys do and I pretend I do but in reality I kinda really don't.
But ok. I am going to try.
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On August 28 2023 04:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 04:47 Koshi wrote:
I don't know if I like TTT full filter though. Feels like he is waiting on something to happen and jump on it. He is making really safe/"smart" posts and I can see a sneaky mafia. Would I ever lynch TTT with that filter? No. Can I say he is not mafia? No. On TTT, i think his questions are smarter this game. Like in his own way it looks to me like he is actually trying to solve something. Before restart in one of my last posts i found this shit i didn't remember who posted it (when VE voted for TTT): Show nested quote +On August 25 2023 18:12 TankTopTiger wrote:
@Math and IAP
In your opinion, who here has the best idea of how you play as town vs. mafia?
@VE can you describe a scenario in which your line of questioning regarding my excitement for this game results in a read one way or another? It's not clicking for me what you were looking to happen here. Like this "looks smart" but actually those are very garbage questions with no intention to solve anything. He couldnt even see how possibly asking DP about TTT meta would result in anything... It's like, about a light year from this game (and games before) to me. He might have learned from mistake, but for now i doubt it at least much enough to not vote him.
I"ll take that into account for the future.
I didn't read anything from last game so I don't know how you guys caught TTT.
So I"ll follow you and marv on it for now.
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On August 26 2023 21:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
oh look iamp was skilled enough to fake that town tell.
:OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
So this game. I think everyone who's posted is town. I want to lynch whoever hasn't posted starting.....now.
ezD1
Not finding mafia is a good mafia tell.
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Hope you aren't driving and typing. That's just dumb.
Are you available in 1 hour?
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Or within the hour I mean.
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On August 28 2023 05:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
Koshi unknown I try, but do consider math in that time
I don't want to do math man. I prefer Chez.
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For me it is DP (own read)
VE (sheep rayn marv)
Chez cuz that is always a good lynch
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Are you before a permanent red light or do you drive with your feet?
Important question
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On August 28 2023 05:17 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 05:16 Koshi wrote:
Are you before a permanent red light or do you drive with your feet?
Important question I'm typing with my voice
Press X to doubt. Pretty sure only people under 15 know how to do that.
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Yes I will. Smoke first and then I decide.
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On August 28 2023 05:55 iamperfection wrote:
what do you think of that unvote by him
No problem with it. He has been on Chez since the start.
Are you implying he leaves VE while VE has done nothing but because he has TMI.
That is not the case here.
More likely newbie being suckered by activity.
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I like math. I gave him a townie point at the start for pushing the game forward. Due to not playing at all he is the only one lol.
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Due to me not playing and not awarding points that is.
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Do I want to backstab marv and rayn is the question.
VE as town needs to have forgotten his own Chez suspicion, and proceeded to think Chez was mafia misslynch of choice and then used the Chez rule to find math scummy. But why Math over 2-3 others that also had it gunning for Chez.
I will look into this.
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On August 28 2023 06:12 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 06:11 Koshi wrote:
Due to me not playing and not awarding points that is. Not gonna lie your tone seems off. But I'm kinda unstable rn.
Tone as in?
I need to be in the thread to do my normal thing. I hate and love it at the same time. I waste so much time but I understand the game better.
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On August 28 2023 06:22 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 06:19 Koshi wrote:On August 28 2023 06:12 Vivax wrote:On August 28 2023 06:11 Koshi wrote:
Due to me not playing and not awarding points that is. Not gonna lie your tone seems off. But I'm kinda unstable rn. Tone as in? I need to be in the thread to do my normal thing. I hate and love it at the same time. I waste so much time but I understand the game better. You lack the 'tingles' It looks more like you're doing chores
lol. man I had the busiest weekend. Great time with the family but I am spent.
This morning I had to play mafia while being tired as fuck and watch 2 kids.
Yesterday morning I was allowed to sleep a bit longer but then had to help prepare for an entire day at the zoo.
My back hurts. Alcohol is already wearing off. Maybe if I refill I have some more energy to give but going to sleep instead.
That might explain it. I should have been lynched yesterday. Would have been so nice. I can't get lynched and not play. That's against my code.
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Chez or VE it will be.
Think it will be VE.
Showed up to show activity and get some suckers of his lynch. I hate that.
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Well I hate that when I am asleep and my lynch choice is not lynched and instead town doctor. lael
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On August 28 2023 06:31 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 06:30 Koshi wrote:
Chez or VE it will be.
Think it will be VE.
Showed up to show activity and get some suckers of his lynch. I hate that. In my experience he's more aggressive as scum. Doesn't shy away from acting like it.
VE? He was pretty meak when he was lynched D3 when I was in obs.
First day he was ok. Second I didn't read.
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I haven't filtered LS Chez and iamp. Only 3. Probably should do that before going to bed. Probably only Chez.
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##Unvote
##Vote: VisceraEyes
Maybe this sparks some more activity. Maybe useful one this time.
I am out. glhf.
Sleep well all.
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iamp. I meant from VE not from everybody. As he faded away again wothout doing anything xcept show activity.
Good lynch. Wpuld habe preffered VE but I can live with this.
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I am at work today. So full access to a computer all the time. Only got to do a presentation in an hour. But after that. 100 % focus.
Still got to read like 250 posts.
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On August 28 2023 21:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i have to sleep before work.
VE/LS/TTT/DP.
For now i think it doesnt get harder than that.
To remember
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Caught up from the lynch. Didn’t read around 5 pages before lynch but cba.
Going to park my vote on LS and figure out if he mafia misslynch of choice or just mafia.
##vote: LS
More to come during and after lunchbreak.
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On August 29 2023 18:20 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2023 18:19 Koshi wrote:On August 28 2023 21:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i have to sleep before work.
VE/LS/TTT/DP.
For now i think it doesnt get harder than that. To remember At least two of these are wrong…
Doesn't sound very good for the other 2 then.
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On August 29 2023 12:23 JacobStrangelove wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 17:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like you could technically argue Koshi could be mafia if VE is town (i wouldnt still believe that), but never with VE, since at the time thread progression was VE lynch pushed by marv+rayn+iamp and from those people marv+iamp didnt think mebaby is town, so why make a read the influence doesnt believe and is not supposed to gain you any town points? Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 19:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Reasons:
- tried to change the lynch from his town read but not really tried
- missing out on obvious good reasons on VE and doing something else instead
- something else instead was kind of a lackluster, i doubt he actually wanted to do something else instead
- Koshi pointed out smart stuff, DP pointed out stupid stuff on that
- bad read on mebaby, not warranted at all that point
Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 19:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is also this Koshi thing that doesnt make any sense... also back to koshi
Hmm so doesn't want to lynch VE because he wanted to lynch math but we can ignore this as VE is town so I stillt hink math vote good but there's a lot ot TTT LS and DP preasure coming out of the person Mafia shot.
A bit of Koshi presure as well. This indicates to me that the focus should be on TTT LS DP Koshi or, Math as the side vote. I might end up switching vote off math based on this. I like DP personally think ray could have just been wrong think honestly might be semi lurky LS being like lets get the guy who keeps saying I'm mafia dead.[/QUOTE]
The things you point out here are false.
First quote he says "I still wont believe koshi is mafia in this scenario"
Second quote he is talking about the DP stuff said against me. "What DP said about Koshi doesn't make sense"
Nothing there is rayn pressure on me. Quite the opposite because he townread me because of the DP stuff.
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On August 28 2023 17:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like you could technically argue Koshi could be mafia if VE is town (i wouldnt still believe that), but never with VE, since at the time thread progression was VE lynch pushed by marv+rayn+iamp and from those people marv+iamp didnt think mebaby is town, so why make a read the influence doesnt believe and is not supposed to gain you any town points?
On August 28 2023 19:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is also this Koshi thing that doesnt make any sense...
On August 28 2023 19:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Reasons:
- tried to change the lynch from his town read but not really tried
- missing out on obvious good reasons on VE and doing something else instead
- something else instead was kind of a lackluster, i doubt he actually wanted to do something else instead
- Koshi pointed out smart stuff, DP pointed out stupid stuff on that
- bad read on mebaby, not warranted at all that point
I fucked it up.
The things you point out here are false. Potentially intentionnaly because you also changed the order of the quotes.
First quote he says "I still wont believe koshi is mafia in this scenario" but in theory it is possible.
Second quote he is talking about the DP stuff said against me. "What DP said about Koshi doesn't make sense" and he explains it better in the next quote
Nothing there is rayn pressure on me. Quite the opposite because he townread me because of the DP stuff.
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Not happy about that shit tbh.
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(also I lied and didn't read last 3 pages yet so now I am catching up on those.)
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On August 29 2023 12:32 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2023 11:54 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Okay you know what bold move I know. I'm not even under attack yet but I'm going to claim Vanilla Town. Because here's the thing. It's not giving any info to mafia well maybe slightly but not enough to matter and IF this means they don't kill me next and hit a blue that's not Iamperf it'll mean IF there is another blue they'll suddely realise Iamperf is lying. If not it's still low chance of them hitting blue knowing I'm not blue if I'm perf is blue as there's likely only one left.
Also this ups my chance of surviving to day three where I thrive as town by claiming stupid early not blue it takes away options if I was a mafia which isn't something a mafia would want to do certainly not someone who "as mafia" would want to wait til late game to counter claim a blue if I was mafia.
With this though I'm suggesting other town don't claim town over blue though because at that point we would be giving mafia too much information.
DP Marv and Koshi i would like your thoughts on this.
People tend to continue playing as mafia more than as town. To not let the team down.
So if he is mafia it is with people that aren't active.
If it is a fake drop out. I would be very upset.
I am a big fan of never modkilling for inactivity and never replacing people with a filter +1 page. The info is in the thread and the game is not balanced around it.
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On August 29 2023 12:54 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2023 12:53 iamperfection wrote:
interesting that DP considered me confirmed town. He didn't even consider a mafia vig....... marv and koshi thoughts on this plz.
People who considered a mafia vig longer than a minisecond should be lynched. That's the dumbest shit possible. And also. The problem solves itselve most likely.
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On August 29 2023 13:07 mathenalin wrote:
I think ls is the lynch. Still no investment, emotional or otherwise, hopped on the chez wagon.
Game hasnt been what i expected now VE has flipped town. Poor play and low activity from him. Plus someone replacing out because of headspace. Like its a text forum game not a war.
I'm being scumread by a lot of people now off of a weak case and responding to it is scummy apparently. I guess im not cut out for this game and don't understand it.
Im voting LS and outta here. Peace
# Vote LightningStrike
I think you played well but this is just weird.
tinfoil: 2 mafia that want to replace? lol
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On August 29 2023 14:16 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2023 13:50 iamperfection wrote:On August 29 2023 13:48 DarthPunk wrote:On August 29 2023 13:15 iamperfection wrote:On August 29 2023 12:56 iamperfection wrote:
why didnt you consider a mafia vig. You can confess your sins to me im going to bed but im not forgetting this DP. Didn’t remember about mafia vig not a role I have played with a lot, or is that likely in a 10+3 setup Also Why would you do that as mafia? lol Naughty boy. Let's see what the others say What’s naughty about it?
lol
lol
lol
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On August 29 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2023 12:32 iamperfection wrote:On August 29 2023 11:54 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Okay you know what bold move I know. I'm not even under attack yet but I'm going to claim Vanilla Town. Because here's the thing. It's not giving any info to mafia well maybe slightly but not enough to matter and IF this means they don't kill me next and hit a blue that's not Iamperf it'll mean IF there is another blue they'll suddely realise Iamperf is lying. If not it's still low chance of them hitting blue knowing I'm not blue if I'm perf is blue as there's likely only one left.
Also this ups my chance of surviving to day three where I thrive as town by claiming stupid early not blue it takes away options if I was a mafia which isn't something a mafia would want to do certainly not someone who "as mafia" would want to wait til late game to counter claim a blue if I was mafia.
With this though I'm suggesting other town don't claim town over blue though because at that point we would be giving mafia too much information.
DP Marv and Koshi i would like your thoughts on this. Intial impression: Dumb. 1st level down: Townish because he has the conspiratorial 'the mafia are after me and im gonna be NK' thing going on, completely lacking the self awareness to understand he is never getting shot and in all likilihood will be facing down a lylo with fucking LS and Math at this rate. 2nd level down: I am worried he is shit posting as mafia and getting away with it.
wow this was a brainshock
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On August 29 2023 19:12 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:On August 29 2023 12:32 iamperfection wrote:On August 29 2023 11:54 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Okay you know what bold move I know. I'm not even under attack yet but I'm going to claim Vanilla Town. Because here's the thing. It's not giving any info to mafia well maybe slightly but not enough to matter and IF this means they don't kill me next and hit a blue that's not Iamperf it'll mean IF there is another blue they'll suddely realise Iamperf is lying. If not it's still low chance of them hitting blue knowing I'm not blue if I'm perf is blue as there's likely only one left.
Also this ups my chance of surviving to day three where I thrive as town by claiming stupid early not blue it takes away options if I was a mafia which isn't something a mafia would want to do certainly not someone who "as mafia" would want to wait til late game to counter claim a blue if I was mafia.
With this though I'm suggesting other town don't claim town over blue though because at that point we would be giving mafia too much information.
DP Marv and Koshi i would like your thoughts on this. Intial impression: Dumb. 1st level down: Townish because he has the conspiratorial 'the mafia are after me and im gonna be NK' thing going on, completely lacking the self awareness to understand he is never getting shot and in all likilihood will be facing down a lylo with fucking LS and Math at this rate. 2nd level down: I am worried he is shit posting as mafia and getting away with it. wow this was a brainshock
(because I misread that initial post)
I thought iamp quoted the same post twice and he asked about the jacob thing on TTT.
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On August 29 2023 19:22 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2023 19:03 Koshi wrote:On August 29 2023 12:54 iamperfection wrote:On August 29 2023 12:53 iamperfection wrote:
interesting that DP considered me confirmed town. He didn't even consider a mafia vig....... marv and koshi thoughts on this plz. People who considered a mafia vig longer than a minisecond should be lynched. That's the dumbest shit possible. And also. The problem solves itselve most likely. So do you want to lynch meat baby for it??
She didn't think he was mafia vig.
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On August 29 2023 19:30 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2023 19:16 marvellosity wrote:On August 29 2023 11:36 Vivax wrote:On August 29 2023 11:34 iamperfection wrote:On August 29 2023 11:28 Vivax wrote:On August 27 2023 05:09 Koshi wrote:On August 27 2023 05:06 mathenalin wrote:On August 27 2023 05:04 Koshi wrote:On August 26 2023 13:57 JacobStrangelove wrote:On August 26 2023 13:38 iamperfection wrote:
we go from skirting the rules punk to boy scout punk. Just anecdotally you seem more on point with these calls this game. Could be a well we just lost a game due to this result punk tho so I'll not say it means anything about him more you though. I like you better this game. Hmmmm on point is not the word I would use. Maybe confrontational. It's different not sure better. Pressuring Chez is 100% pointless. Do you have a way of reading him? No. Each day just start your vote on Chez and only remove it if you find mafia. Reread this after the flip. what am i rereading ? He knew that Chez was town Don’t be ridiculous The wording suggests real knowledge of his alignment. It‘s easy to have that leak out during a joke. But it‘s also 50/50 that it’s a correct reason. So I‘m dropping it. At the very least he should have been considering that Chez could turn out mafia.
Is this true? What Vivax is saying.
Is that how you guys could even potentially read what I wrote?
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On August 29 2023 19:33 Vivax wrote:
Koshi 5 pages of filter is basically a confession
Throw me a bone here so I don’t have to start tunneling you
I am ok with the tunnel tbh.
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On August 29 2023 19:39 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2023 19:32 marvellosity wrote:On August 29 2023 19:30 Vivax wrote:On August 29 2023 19:16 marvellosity wrote:On August 29 2023 11:36 Vivax wrote:On August 29 2023 11:34 iamperfection wrote:On August 29 2023 11:28 Vivax wrote:On August 27 2023 05:09 Koshi wrote:On August 27 2023 05:06 mathenalin wrote:On August 27 2023 05:04 Koshi wrote:
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Hmmmm on point is not the word I would use. Maybe confrontational. It's different not sure better. Pressuring Chez is 100% pointless. Do you have a way of reading him? No. Each day just start your vote on Chez and only remove it if you find mafia. Reread this after the flip. what am i rereading ? He knew that Chez was town Don’t be ridiculous The wording suggests real knowledge of his alignment. It‘s easy to have that leak out during a joke. But it‘s also 50/50 that it’s a correct reason. So I‘m dropping it. At the very least he should have been considering that Chez could turn out mafia. There’s nothing to suggest he wasn’t considering Chez might be mafia? He said you only remove the vote from Chez if you find mafia. If Chez is a coinflip or a p-lynch, why can‘t he be mafia ? So the correct assumption would be ‚if you find a better lynch‘ not ‚if you find mafia‘ I know it seems nitpicky
My point was, unless you find mafia don't change your vote.
So the alignment of Chezinu doesnt matter because if you can't find mafia, and Chez is mafia, you lynch mafia.
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On August 29 2023 19:52 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2023 19:43 marvellosity wrote:On August 29 2023 19:41 iamperfection wrote:On August 29 2023 19:37 marvellosity wrote:On August 29 2023 19:29 iamperfection wrote:
Who do you want to lynch marv Into TTT/LS/(Jacob?) Really, really, really annoying out of game stuff everywhere. LS birthday. TTT giving up? math giving up? Doesn't 1 give up look more real then the other? Tell me what you’re thinking One obviously looks more real how don't you see it.
Because one said he contacted the hosts and will quit playing?? What a question.
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On August 29 2023 21:13 JacobStrangelove wrote:
All those who voted ls with me what's your second biggest scum read?
TTT most likely.
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On August 29 2023 22:01 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 08:21 TankTopTiger wrote:
Hi. I read the thread while in bed and so I'm caught up.
Vote is currently split between VE and Chez, with VE set to go down.
I don't have anyone else I'd prefer to lynch, but I don't think these are great lynches. Feels LAL. Basically, both players are off, but assuming differences in play is due to alignment shift with no underlying mechanistic explanation is dumb. I've seen VE as scum, and it didn't look like this. I'm actually darker on VE now since I last mentioned him, because I think his responses have been nothing at all, but I still don't feel great about it.
I think Chez is a better lynch. VE is playing rubbish as either alignment, but I see this as NAI. Chez however isn't engaged in his shitposting and that seems like a red flag to me. He's offered zero insight and has been half-hearted in his provocation. He hasn't bargained or given cryptic clues about the game state. He also hasn't adapted to the ban on his seal. I believe last time he started using filters or something? Normally, he is galvanised by a sadistic need to lure people into his cryptic BS. This game, it feels like he's playing solitaire for show and doesn't actually want us to come and play.
This has been quoted by multiple people as a very suspicious post back on day 1. Looks even worse given the two flips. Very TMI. Can we not let him get away with the afk give up post?
I agree but TTT might be modkilled EoD. So 2 for 1 is better.
Can there be clarity about the replacement/modkill? You can ignore this if there is no answer.
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On August 29 2023 21:51 JacobStrangelove wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2023 21:44 marvellosity wrote:On August 27 2023 12:15 JacobStrangelove wrote:Yeah I have autocorrect on constantly keeps wanting dp to become do so that'll pop up at some point. Might be time to have a softish reset and look for teams as interconnected people is all I'm good at. Found it strange that x was backing up y out of nowhere but forget who the people were going to go read. On August 27 2023 07:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well it doesn't make sense to me why you think he first made the vote for being bold (if mafia) and then when questioned, was getting nervous about being questioned? I obviously agree the vote and the reasoning at it's best is dumb, but like... idk. I didn't want to defend him but i don't really think it's scummy. Oh yeah good point why did you think I was nervous. Just throwing out feelers or legit opinion. Also can't find the afformentioned backing up unless it was ray backing me up... On August 27 2023 12:06 TankTopTiger wrote:
Yeah but jacob can you be more specific about your read on Chez. Is it just vibes or do you have insight?
I'm not really up to date on DP's stuff. I'm just parsing it now but I'm moving slow.
I think typogate is dumb shit Typo gate is kinda dumb but feel it's the town kinda dumb it's almost too dumb for mafia intentionality hence my town read. Vibes initially but backed up by, what would mafia jsl do. Aka if I rolled mafia I would probably lean even more into the troll persona the washy wavey stuff. Also his posted made sense last game despite being cheese styles this game it's... More what I would do tbh. Finding some way to have fun while also seperating ego from it because oh I wasn't trying seriously anyway that kind of behaviour. To my earlier point about Jakey. Looks fairly self-referential for how he’s played. Lots of chummy/matey/weirdness, but it looks calculated Yeah I don't quite buy that you believe this actually. But in that instance I could actually see this as a Marv dp with fake disagreements plus someone scum team but I don't want to believe in that reality so I won't yet. I'm still going to believe it's ttt that's mafia and not dp
When did marv and dp have fake disagreements?
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On August 29 2023 18:55 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 17:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like you could technically argue Koshi could be mafia if VE is town (i wouldnt still believe that), but never with VE, since at the time thread progression was VE lynch pushed by marv+rayn+iamp and from those people marv+iamp didnt think mebaby is town, so why make a read the influence doesnt believe and is not supposed to gain you any town points? Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 19:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is also this Koshi thing that doesnt make any sense... Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 19:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Reasons:
- tried to change the lynch from his town read but not really tried
- missing out on obvious good reasons on VE and doing something else instead
- something else instead was kind of a lackluster, i doubt he actually wanted to do something else instead
- Koshi pointed out smart stuff, DP pointed out stupid stuff on that
- bad read on mebaby, not warranted at all that point
I fucked it up. The things you point out here are false. Potentially intentionnaly because you also changed the order of the quotes. First quote he says "I still wont believe koshi is mafia in this scenario" but in theory it is possible. Second quote he is talking about the DP stuff said against me. "What DP said about Koshi doesn't make sense" and he explains it better in the next quote Nothing there is rayn pressure on me. Quite the opposite because he townread me because of the DP stuff.
@jacob did you read this?
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On August 29 2023 22:18 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2023 21:09 Vivax wrote:I have a bunch of issues with this post sequence and what it means for LS' progressions. (1) : He seems to harbor suspicions for DP but doesn't really spell them out. Initially he even asks Koshi why he's after him. He thought the fight looked forced, decided DP looked townier, but ignored spelling out an opinion on me that would confirm that he felt it was forced. (2) He is one of the few who thinks TTT doesn't look scummy. He townread DP but later stated that TTT looked townier for him after having a back and forth with DP. That reads as if he had an expectation that being in a clinch with DP would be a townie thing to do. (3): He didn't really have a read on VE. But he thought Koshi was obviously mafia and his vote on VE seemed off. But first it seemed off, and afterwards he analyzed the reasons that could make him mafia and concluded nothing. On August 27 2023 05:34 LightningStrike wrote:On August 27 2023 05:25 Koshi wrote:
Dp/rayn/marv scumteam
##Vote DP (1) Why you voting DP? Also isn't it a little to early to form a scumteam? On August 27 2023 06:24 LightningStrike wrote:
(1)Hopefully DP posts more soon given it's early in the morning where he's at. On August 27 2023 21:24 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke up after having to unexpectedly getting busy after my last post and DP and Vivax had a fight (1)seemed forced? At least I think DP is town from that fight.
Koshi though seemed underwhelming on my reread: He not exactly pushing his own thoughts per say this game compared to normal if he's town he needs to step it up big time. Also Chez not using his own rule right now is pretty suspicious considering he loved talking about in the past how he applies it. On August 27 2023 21:33 LightningStrike wrote:
(2) Also side note TTT seemed more insightful this time around compared to Part 1 where he was mafia so likely town for the time being. On August 27 2023 21:39 LightningStrike wrote:On August 27 2023 21:35 DarthPunk wrote:
who you want to lynch right now LS?
Chez and Koshi obviously. On August 28 2023 08:54 LightningStrike wrote:
(3) I am back from having to do house work all day and Koshi looks a bit better but his vote on VE seems off? Idk how to feel about Koshi. VE though not being as abrasive as he was when I was mafia with him in Endure's 1 but he wasn't around as much as that game either if I remember how much activity he had that game but his content not exactly that great either. Chez not doing anything after the Chez rule stuff and ninja voting VE ???? Chez most likely is mafia out of the 2 wagons though if I have to pick out of those 2.
##Vote: Chezinu On August 28 2023 12:41 LightningStrike wrote:
Got out of my TTRPG session and Chez flipped town :| I will admit I should of figured when there was little to no resistance to his lynch when I did my vote >.< (2) TTT is town like I did say earlier and his fight with DP cements it for me. But I am a bit lost though given the flip. Not a good look either way. I would vote LS.
##Vote: LightningStrike Regarding the DP and TTT fight: I just thought it was forced idk why it felt that way. Regarding not trying to read VE: When I was mafia with him he admits he can do everything as either alignment in that Mafia QT so I didn't know how to read him. Regarding DP I only asked others about DP only because I was curious where everyone else was at with him because I misread him badly in Endures 2 Day 1 if you remember I legit thought he was mafia there.
DP and TTT was forced or DP and Vivax?
Also. Vivax typing words and not backing down is meta town Vivax right? So why not meta read Vivax but instead give a gutfeel DP read? Feels off for you.
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On August 27 2023 21:24 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke up after having to unexpectedly getting busy after my last post and DP and Vivax had a fight seemed forced? At least I think DP is town from that fight.
I am talking about this.
I read that as DP going off for no reason at all and Vivax being Vivax.
DP looked like shit and Vivax looked silly but showed activity so meta wise he was more likely town.
So can you talk me through why you thought Vivax was neutral and DP townish. And why that is if it is a forced conversation, because then Vivax would be redish because he is faking activity.
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On August 29 2023 21:15 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2023 21:09 Vivax wrote:I have a bunch of issues with this post sequence and what it means for LS' progressions. (1) : He seems to harbor suspicions for DP but doesn't really spell them out. Initially he even asks Koshi why he's after him. He thought the fight looked forced, decided DP looked townier, but ignored spelling out an opinion on me that would confirm that he felt it was forced. (2) He is one of the few who thinks TTT doesn't look scummy. He townread DP but later stated that TTT looked townier for him after having a back and forth with DP. That reads as if he had an expectation that being in a clinch with DP would be a townie thing to do. (3): He didn't really have a read on VE. But he thought Koshi was obviously mafia and his vote on VE seemed off. But first it seemed off, and afterwards he analyzed the reasons that could make him mafia and concluded nothing. On August 27 2023 05:34 LightningStrike wrote:On August 27 2023 05:25 Koshi wrote:
Dp/rayn/marv scumteam
##Vote DP (1) Why you voting DP? Also isn't it a little to early to form a scumteam? On August 27 2023 06:24 LightningStrike wrote:
(1)Hopefully DP posts more soon given it's early in the morning where he's at. On August 27 2023 21:24 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke up after having to unexpectedly getting busy after my last post and DP and Vivax had a fight (1)seemed forced? At least I think DP is town from that fight.
Koshi though seemed underwhelming on my reread: He not exactly pushing his own thoughts per say this game compared to normal if he's town he needs to step it up big time. Also Chez not using his own rule right now is pretty suspicious considering he loved talking about in the past how he applies it. On August 27 2023 21:33 LightningStrike wrote:
(2) Also side note TTT seemed more insightful this time around compared to Part 1 where he was mafia so likely town for the time being. On August 27 2023 21:39 LightningStrike wrote:On August 27 2023 21:35 DarthPunk wrote:
who you want to lynch right now LS?
Chez and Koshi obviously. On August 28 2023 08:54 LightningStrike wrote:
(3) I am back from having to do house work all day and Koshi looks a bit better but his vote on VE seems off? Idk how to feel about Koshi. VE though not being as abrasive as he was when I was mafia with him in Endure's 1 but he wasn't around as much as that game either if I remember how much activity he had that game but his content not exactly that great either. Chez not doing anything after the Chez rule stuff and ninja voting VE ???? Chez most likely is mafia out of the 2 wagons though if I have to pick out of those 2.
##Vote: Chezinu On August 28 2023 12:41 LightningStrike wrote:
Got out of my TTRPG session and Chez flipped town :| I will admit I should of figured when there was little to no resistance to his lynch when I did my vote >.< (2) TTT is town like I did say earlier and his fight with DP cements it for me. But I am a bit lost though given the flip. Not a good look either way. I would vote LS.
##Vote: LightningStrike Yes, I agree with this actually. Particularly the DP/TTT fight being forced, except he ends up with 2 townreads out of it
Am I going crazy or is there no mention of a forced DP/TTT fight in LS filter?
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On August 29 2023 22:38 iamperfection wrote:
It's right in the quote what do you mean
SHOW ME THE QUOTE
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On August 29 2023 22:40 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2023 22:33 Koshi wrote:On August 27 2023 21:24 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke up after having to unexpectedly getting busy after my last post and DP and Vivax had a fight seemed forced? At least I think DP is town from that fight. I am talking about this. I read that as DP going off for no reason at all and Vivax being Vivax. DP looked like shit and Vivax looked silly but showed activity so meta wise he was more likely town. So can you talk me through why you thought Vivax was neutral and DP townish. And why that is if it is a forced conversation, because then Vivax would be redish because he is faking activity. Oh that fight (I had to reread that entire interaction but that was super early Day 1): Typo gate happened and felt like one of those 2 at the time tried to push it more than necessary. Vivax was more afk as mafia in Endure's 2 and didn't make any like big stand to just back down so easily here he took multiple hardstands and not backing down per say which is why I got him as town by meta.
Dude. You concluded with DP is town and nothing on Vivax.
So can you answer me on how you came to that explanation. Both the DP and Vivax one.
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On August 27 2023 21:24 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke up after having to unexpectedly getting busy after my last post and DP and Vivax had a fight (1)seemed forced? At least I think DP is town from that fight.
Koshi though seemed underwhelming on my reread: He not exactly pushing his own thoughts per say this game compared to normal if he's town he needs to step it up big time. Also Chez not using his own rule right now is pretty suspicious considering he loved talking about in the past how he applies it.
That is not a forced DP/TTT fight.
Ok everybody is just dumb apparantly.
RIP rayn.
I miss you.
I wish we had more time together.
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On August 29 2023 22:48 iamperfection wrote:
Koshi what do you think of marv
Tiptoptown
For everybody except marv:
+ Show Spoiler +he is doing these little snippets that don't contribute as much as I would like but are his town meta. In the game I cohosted he was the most obvious mafia out of the 3 and I am not feeling that here. So I would say let's wait 1 more lynch and 1 more nk and murder him tomorrow if he is alive.
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On August 29 2023 23:11 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2023 23:06 iamperfection wrote:On August 29 2023 23:04 LightningStrike wrote:On August 29 2023 23:03 iamperfection wrote:On August 29 2023 22:55 LightningStrike wrote:
JSL it's because I am one of the most lynched people in TL Mafia history so I am not surprised there isn't much resistance. What do you plan on doing about it? Just trying to post and giving thoughts and fight it obviously. What do you think of marv Marv not exactly hard pushing things is a bit concerning but he been giving his thoughts every time he was around. But him voting TTT over me in that situation is ???? A slight scum read atm I do want him to explain more so why he voting TTT over me even though he admitted about the circumstances for me and TTT.
What you are saying is that you townread TTT more than you townread yourself?
Good stuff.
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On August 29 2023 23:17 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2023 23:15 Koshi wrote:On August 29 2023 22:48 iamperfection wrote:
Koshi what do you think of marv Tiptoptown For everybody except marv: + Show Spoiler +he is doing these little snippets that don't contribute as much as I would like but are his town meta. In the game I cohosted he was the most obvious mafia out of the 3 and I am not feeling that here. So I would say let's wait 1 more lynch and 1 more nk and murder him tomorrow if he is alive. Can you do a little more then that
Did you read the spoiler?
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On August 29 2023 23:21 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2023 23:19 Koshi wrote:On August 29 2023 23:17 iamperfection wrote:On August 29 2023 23:15 Koshi wrote:On August 29 2023 22:48 iamperfection wrote:
Koshi what do you think of marv Tiptoptown For everybody except marv: + Show Spoiler +he is doing these little snippets that don't contribute as much as I would like but are his town meta. In the game I cohosted he was the most obvious mafia out of the 3 and I am not feeling that here. So I would say let's wait 1 more lynch and 1 more nk and murder him tomorrow if he is alive. Can you do a little more then that Did you read the spoiler? I did more as in possible examples from said games
Quelle punishment. No ty.
Let's just lynch him no questions asked tomorrow.
Way more fun.
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On August 29 2023 23:30 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2023 23:18 Koshi wrote:On August 29 2023 23:11 LightningStrike wrote:On August 29 2023 23:06 iamperfection wrote:On August 29 2023 23:04 LightningStrike wrote:On August 29 2023 23:03 iamperfection wrote:On August 29 2023 22:55 LightningStrike wrote:
JSL it's because I am one of the most lynched people in TL Mafia history so I am not surprised there isn't much resistance. What do you plan on doing about it? Just trying to post and giving thoughts and fight it obviously. What do you think of marv Marv not exactly hard pushing things is a bit concerning but he been giving his thoughts every time he was around. But him voting TTT over me in that situation is ???? A slight scum read atm I do want him to explain more so why he voting TTT over me even though he admitted about the circumstances for me and TTT. What you are saying is that you townread TTT more than you townread yourself? Good stuff. No I just wanting an explanation and iamp brought up that as a very good point actually.
I was joking. Just weird that you see yourself as a more logical lynch than somebody else but TTT is your biggest (?) townread so I guess it somewhat checks out.
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On August 29 2023 23:35 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2023 23:33 Koshi wrote:On August 29 2023 23:21 iamperfection wrote:On August 29 2023 23:19 Koshi wrote:On August 29 2023 23:17 iamperfection wrote:On August 29 2023 23:15 Koshi wrote:On August 29 2023 22:48 iamperfection wrote:
Koshi what do you think of marv Tiptoptown For everybody except marv: + Show Spoiler +he is doing these little snippets that don't contribute as much as I would like but are his town meta. In the game I cohosted he was the most obvious mafia out of the 3 and I am not feeling that here. So I would say let's wait 1 more lynch and 1 more nk and murder him tomorrow if he is alive. Can you do a little more then that Did you read the spoiler? I did more as in possible examples from said games Quelle punishment. No ty. Let's just lynch him no questions asked tomorrow. Way more fun. There is much time to be productive and you don't want to do it?
Pls give me another assignment mr conftown. I'll do anything. Just not reading marv filters.
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I should read DP games. That would be useful.
I just don't want to do it.
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On August 30 2023 03:26 LightningStrike wrote:Why are you so certain that I am mafia that you are refusing to budge?
1) I think your DP/Vivaw read was terrible. It was not a read you would made, and that you made it bexause DP was generally more seen as town ib the thread.
2) I think TTT is also mafia and lynching both simply is the best option here.
rayn kill also perfectly fits that scenario.
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On August 30 2023 03:40 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2023 03:34 Koshi wrote:On August 30 2023 03:26 LightningStrike wrote:On August 30 2023 03:19 Koshi wrote:
iamp can you vote LS? Why are you so certain that I am mafia that you are refusing to budge? 1) I think your DP/Vivaw read was terrible. It was not a read you would made, and that you made it bexause DP was generally more seen as town ib the thread. 2) I think TTT is also mafia and lynching both simply is the best option here. rayn kill also perfectly fits that scenario. 1. if you looked at my filter i did townread DP before that fight just couldn't read Vivax. 2. I disagree with TTT being mafia and already explained why multiple times.
If you are town I am sorry. But for secret reasons I can't see a DP/TTT team. So unless jason and math are both mafia there is no world in which you are town.
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On August 30 2023 03:44 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2023 03:42 Koshi wrote:On August 30 2023 03:40 LightningStrike wrote:On August 30 2023 03:34 Koshi wrote:On August 30 2023 03:26 LightningStrike wrote:On August 30 2023 03:19 Koshi wrote:
iamp can you vote LS? Why are you so certain that I am mafia that you are refusing to budge? 1) I think your DP/Vivaw read was terrible. It was not a read you would made, and that you made it bexause DP was generally more seen as town ib the thread. 2) I think TTT is also mafia and lynching both simply is the best option here. rayn kill also perfectly fits that scenario. 1. if you looked at my filter i did townread DP before that fight just couldn't read Vivax. 2. I disagree with TTT being mafia and already explained why multiple times. If you are town I am sorry. [b]But for secret reasons I can't see a DP/TTT team[b]. So unless jason and math are both mafia there is no world in which you are town. Regarding the bolded part what are you talking about?
Secret means I can't talk about it. :D
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On August 30 2023 03:45 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2023 03:42 Koshi wrote:On August 30 2023 03:40 LightningStrike wrote:On August 30 2023 03:34 Koshi wrote:On August 30 2023 03:26 LightningStrike wrote:On August 30 2023 03:19 Koshi wrote:
iamp can you vote LS? Why are you so certain that I am mafia that you are refusing to budge? 1) I think your DP/Vivaw read was terrible. It was not a read you would made, and that you made it bexause DP was generally more seen as town ib the thread. 2) I think TTT is also mafia and lynching both simply is the best option here. rayn kill also perfectly fits that scenario. 1. if you looked at my filter i did townread DP before that fight just couldn't read Vivax. 2. I disagree with TTT being mafia and already explained why multiple times. If you are town I am sorry. But for secret reasons I can't see a DP/TTT team. So unless jason and math are both mafia there is no world in which you are town. If your secret reasons have anything to do with host wifom you need to stop
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On August 30 2023 10:44 TankTopTiger wrote:
I've been talking to Grack and he's encouraged me to keep playing. But if I do, it's not going to be in filter-diving F5 try-hard mode where I argue back and forth for hours. I'm gonna say my piece and if I die I die.
I think LS is town. don't understand or agree with his reasons for reading me green. But that thing where he brought heat down on himself unnecessarily didn't feel like something he would do as red. I think lynching him is another mistake.
By vibe, I think Lamp is town, I just really really don't like his blustery playstyle and would prefer to eat razorblades than read his filter. I think he's bad town, but I think he's town. Trying to shut down conversation at the lynch of D1 in order to lynch Chez for no real stated reason makes me very dismissive of his approach to the game.
I don't like Marv but haven't gone through filter, I'll go into reasons why when I'm back (I'm waiting on a pick-up that's already half-hour late). His misinterpretation of my post, then insistence that DP has it wrong is just wild considering he uses the exact same argument I made in his own defense, but insists after filter diving me twice that the interpretation where I'm scared of dying with only one vote on me while Chez has all of them is the better call. Delusional if town.
I still don't like DP, but understand that basically my entire read on him relies on meta from outside the game and positionally I can never really hope to lynch him. If he denies what I've said regarding his selective forgetting of our RL conversations, he confirms to me that he's scum, but ultimately until I'm dead and confirmed town nobody will ever take it seriously because it's non-verifiable.
Such a good post.
I also still don't like DP.
DP/marv scumteam 😱😱😱
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On August 30 2023 17:09 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2023 15:44 JacobStrangelove wrote:On August 30 2023 15:33 marvellosity wrote:
##unvote Thoughts? Yep when I can. Covering manager all week so hard to apply as much time as I’d like. The unvote was just shorthand for me saying I’m reconsidering.
What is your read on LS?
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marv or iamp I will be filtering DP in 30 mins. If you are here for feedback that would be nice.
I know he is mafia and will prove it but too many people asking questions at work to do it during hours.
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On August 30 2023 19:04 DarthPunk wrote:
Btw koshi trying to lynch me the one deadline I am not around, after I say I won’t be around, that is the scummiest thing he has done all game.
I agree that I am super town.
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All the reasons DP is mafia:
1) DP was quite active part 1. In part 2 he wasn't there at the start which is a style break. But when he came in the thread, he came in swinging. Was this overcompensating for missing the first xx hours of the game?
1a) "You want to talk iamp meta?"
On August 27 2023 10:43 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2023 06:40 Koshi wrote:On August 27 2023 06:18 LightningStrike wrote:On August 27 2023 05:56 Koshi wrote:On August 27 2023 05:53 LightningStrike wrote:On August 27 2023 05:50 Koshi wrote:On August 27 2023 05:34 LightningStrike wrote:On August 27 2023 05:25 Koshi wrote:
Dp/rayn/marv scumteam
##Vote DP Why you voting DP? Also isn't it a little to early to form a scumteam? Because it makes me happy. Maybe yes, mayne no. So no reason other than to make yourself happy? Secret reasons that arzn't good enough to write down lol. You want to talk iamp meta? He hasn't made a lot posts so far but maybe slight differences from last game? +1 Together we are 2 I made zero posts at this point (aside from a post saying I wasn't posting) How are there slight differences from last game Koshi? The difference is stark Explained and verifiable the only thing that smells bad is trying to imply it's more than it is.
Why did DP misread this exchange?
Why did DP misread this 3-5 times because I taunt him after he made this comment.
Because he isn't reading and just looking for fights.
1b) "Are you for real with this Vivax?"
On August 27 2023 11:15 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2023 11:01 Vivax wrote:On August 27 2023 10:54 DarthPunk wrote:On August 27 2023 10:53 Vivax wrote:On August 27 2023 10:49 DarthPunk wrote:On August 27 2023 10:34 Vivax wrote:On August 27 2023 10:30 DarthPunk wrote:On August 26 2023 20:06 Vivax wrote:On August 26 2023 11:01 iamperfection wrote:
thank god. you know how depressed i was to get scum in the one game ill probably able to play all year On August 26 2023 15:57 iamperfection wrote:
i just noticed jacob threw a random vote on marv for some reason. Not sure what to make of his play so far. Seems to be trying for max attention at the very least. And while we're at it, we can add another joke to the mix. That first post and that iamp could have rolled scum again going by the second quote. ##Vote: iamperfection Vivax why did those posts make you think Perfection was mafia? This is an actually scummy question from you because I voted iamperfection before I talkes about the posts. Are you deliberately ignoring the timeline ? Can you clarify this? beacuse I might have missed something reading the thread all at once. I got a slight feeling of fakeness from his ‚oh boy I sure am glad I didn‘t roll scum again‘ thing but it could admittedly also mean nothing at my present state of thoughts. As in, I‘m not married to my current vote. OK that's fine. Why do you think asking about it is scummy? You didn‘t just ask about it. You made an assumption that I was in the process of scumreading him while confronting him about the typo while I had my vote on him from a previous reason. I assumed that the typo stood in relation to said thread and he would have noticed it too. And I think it‘s scummy because it stood out to you as the primary reason for me having a vote on him when it shouldn‘t appear that way if you read my filter in proper order. Are you for real with this Vivax? are you gaslighting me with this statement?!? That was your first real post of this game, you literally hadn't talked about anything else until this post, and when I ask you why it is scummy, you say - I - am scummy for not reading your filter in proper order? The typo had not been raised at this point in the game. It was your first post!
On August 27 2023 11:18 Vivax wrote:
I‘d put VE as town, probably.
DP as scum
Glad I didn‘t have a typo there
On August 27 2023 11:26 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2023 11:21 Vivax wrote:On August 27 2023 11:18 DarthPunk wrote:On August 27 2023 11:18 Vivax wrote:
I‘d put VE as town, probably.
DP as scum
Glad I didn‘t have a typo there Give reasons please. You‘re just tunneling off a misrepresentation of the reason for why I chad voted iamperfection What misrepresentation? state it explicitly please. Because you voted him your first real post of the game.
I asked about this vote in that post.
You said I had not read your filter in the proper order and therefore, was scummy for asking.
But it was your FIRST POST OF THE GAME.
so what order was I supposed to read it in vivax?
So 30 mins after misreading my comment he goes into this weird fight with Vivax. Was it over the top? What triggered him? Maybe the Vivax vote on him? Why would a townie be so angry for that?
Who knows. But I know that after TTT attacked DP for it, DP said Vivax looked quite townie after all.
On August 27 2023 13:39 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2023 13:34 TankTopTiger wrote:
It's tricky, I don't feel like this is how he acts as town or scum.
His misunderstanding assuming you were asking about the typo was NAI.
His caring about the typo at all to begin with was poor play but I know plenty of the people here read into similar BS.
His not understanding DMB was ???
His initial vote on Iamp was plausible as town opener although the reasoning was so bad it would have been better had he not given any reasons at all.
This whole time, I was half expecting you to be too keen after the headpats I gave you (out of game) for nailing Iamp in august 1.1. I can see you being overeager to perform the same feat again catching scum in what feels like the first 10 minutes, and accidentally browbeating a hapless townie into paste.
I don't think it's as locked down as you do. I'm guessing your confidence is 90+, mine is prob 60+. But he also passed one of my tests during that conversation. It might not be a good read, but based on his behaviour in Endures II, I expected him to fall into my wake if I offered him any form of protection. He reacted with hostility and pride which seems townier to me. My confidence is not 90+ Im leaning town on him actually after all that.
What could have happened?
On August 27 2023 12:12 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2023 12:10 DarthPunk wrote:On August 27 2023 12:09 Vivax wrote:On August 27 2023 12:08 DarthPunk wrote:On August 27 2023 12:06 Vivax wrote:On August 27 2023 12:04 DarthPunk wrote:On August 27 2023 12:02 Vivax wrote:On August 27 2023 11:56 DarthPunk wrote:On August 27 2023 11:54 Vivax wrote:On August 27 2023 11:46 iamperfection wrote:
vivax do you think this push from dp is coming from a scum dp. I see you voted for him but do you think his actions and thought process are scum motivated?
I think he‘s deflecting off having to explain why he was assuming that my scumread on you was driven by me doubting that you thought the typo was irrelevant, because by the placement and unlikelihood it was probably intentional.How far away from each other are your f and m keys and the shift key? I never said this anywhere. Quote where I mention this vivax. I'll wait. You‘re correct, I assumed you meant the posts I was talking about at the time because I didn‘t read the quotes. Fine then, whole lot of nothing from my part. I failed to spot it. But your questions are answered, so what are we even talking about. On my phone the f and r are far away and I don‘t use auto. The same question I asked over and over and over. What order should I have read your filter so that this post was not scummy: On August 27 2023 10:30 DarthPunk wrote:On August 26 2023 20:06 Vivax wrote:On August 26 2023 11:01 iamperfection wrote:
thank god. you know how depressed i was to get scum in the one game ill probably able to play all year On August 26 2023 15:57 iamperfection wrote:
i just noticed jacob threw a random vote on marv for some reason. Not sure what to make of his play so far. Seems to be trying for max attention at the very least. And while we're at it, we can add another joke to the mix. That first post and that iamp could have rolled scum again going by the second quote. ##Vote: iamperfection Vivax why did those posts make you think Perfection was mafia? I made the wrong assumption here considering that I was mentally engaged with another topic when you asked me about a former one. You interceded between me and iamp so it occurred that way. OK, to be clear, you thought it was scummy because you made an assumption based on not reading the post properly. Yes. So why are you still voting for me? ##UnvoteI prefer to read and change vote when I find a more suitable one.
Coincidence? I think not.
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This is going to take a long time because I had to do something and also eat.
But look at his posts here.
He is more afraid I will succeed and he will get lynched than that he is confident I will get lynched instead.
Why is his vote parked on LS? LS is null for him. I am 100% mafia. Math has been his preferred lynch candidate forever now. Did he say something about LS that I missed? I don't think so. He should always be on Math or me.
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On August 30 2023 20:22 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2023 18:49 Koshi wrote:
marv or iamp I will be filtering DP in 30 mins. If you are here for feedback that would be nice.
I know he is mafia and will prove it but too many people asking questions at work to do it during hours. Like in this post he is saying what he is doing. scum say: I am going to filter dp in 30 mins and I can prove he is mafias A townie would say: I have been reading dps filter to figure him out and I can prove he is mafia for x reason. Then his case drops and it literally is koshi just throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks, Hardly proving anything. This is why I know koshi is mafia. He isn’t following the evidence and making decisions. He made a decision (at the start of the game btw) and is trying to find or manufacture evidence Scum scum scum.
Wrong. I have read your filter after TTT came back and looked townie. He scumreads you and I scumread you. I thought there is a good chance you are mafia. So I said what I said.
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On August 30 2023 20:26 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2023 20:23 Koshi wrote:
This is going to take a long time because I had to do something and also eat.
But look at his posts here.
He is more afraid I will succeed and he will get lynched than that he is confident I will get lynched instead.
Why is his vote parked on LS? LS is null for him. I am 100% mafia. Math has been his preferred lynch candidate forever now. Did he say something about LS that I missed? I don't think so. He should always be on Math or me. Ls is not null for me. I am sheeping a town Marv read on him being maf/town which is the exact approach I took In version one of the game And I am not scared. I am 100 percent confident you could not lynch me if you were not taking advantage of the fact I said I wasn’t going to be around. I still don’t think you will lynch me, but if you do I want to make sure you go down afterwards Ok?
You put him black in your list post.
What changed since then that you decide to sheep marv into him over obvious mafia Koshi and obvious mafia math?
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On August 30 2023 20:27 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2023 20:26 Koshi wrote:On August 30 2023 20:22 DarthPunk wrote:On August 30 2023 18:49 Koshi wrote:
marv or iamp I will be filtering DP in 30 mins. If you are here for feedback that would be nice.
I know he is mafia and will prove it but too many people asking questions at work to do it during hours. Like in this post he is saying what he is doing. scum say: I am going to filter dp in 30 mins and I can prove he is mafias A townie would say: I have been reading dps filter to figure him out and I can prove he is mafia for x reason. Then his case drops and it literally is koshi just throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks, Hardly proving anything. This is why I know koshi is mafia. He isn’t following the evidence and making decisions. He made a decision (at the start of the game btw) and is trying to find or manufacture evidence Scum scum scum. Wrong. I have read your filter after TTT came back and looked townie. He scumreads you and I scumread you. I thought there is a good chance you are mafia. So I said what I said. Not wrong. this is exactly why you are mafia lol.
Ah ok. The exact reason I am mafia keeps shifting. Perfect.
First: A townie Koshi would read your filter and say he can prove you are mafia for x reason. This mafia Koshi didn't read shit and just wants to lynch me.
I say: I read your filter after TTT came back and put my suspicion back on you instead of TTT (for w.e reason I couldn't decide who was the mafia out of you 2 but since that TTT post it clicked)
Second: Koshi is exactly mafia for what I said what a townie would do
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Part 2 of the DP case will be about DP his read on Chez & Math on D1. And how he ignored VE the entire time.
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On August 31 2023 00:03 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2023 20:37 Koshi wrote:
Part 2 of the DP case will be about DP his read on Chez & Math on D1. And how he ignored VE the entire time. What happened to part 2 ?
Part 2 - 5 coming when I get to my computer. Probably after kids are asleep.
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2) Math, Chez and VE.
We are currently on page 4 of DP his filter and except for shitfighting with Vivax and me he hasn't done shit. So after rayn, marv, iamp and Koshi talk about VE and vote VE. DP comes in the thread and starts with saying he doesn't want to lynch VE but wants to lynch math.
You are all free to look yourself and look for posts of DP looking into Math but you won't find any except these:
On August 28 2023 08:43 DarthPunk wrote:Catch up post: Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 03:27 mathenalin wrote:
Am i a snowflake if i vote VE or is his vote on me so unbelievably bad that its warranted
This post is sus as fuck. Why is he checking the temperature of the thread before he votes? Like if you are town you know this motherfucker is wrong about you and trying to kill you. The self awareness of how he is being perceived in the thread strikes me. Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 03:36 mathenalin wrote:On August 28 2023 03:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 28 2023 03:25 mathenalin wrote:On August 28 2023 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
mathenalin, around 10 hours ago you said you were prioritizing getting a read on iamp and Jacob. I see you formed a read on iamp but there is no mention in your filter about Jacob (even after you talked with DP about your reads -- so it doesn't fall under "if anyone has questions for me" anymore i guess).
Did you ever form a read on Jacob? I'd say i don't like him but i cant point to anything as, thats scum behaviour. His point about dp following rules and iamp being "on point" was silly. His vote on marv being anything other than a joke. Then talking about voting chez but immediately calling it a "pressure" vote which instantly makes it lose power.I'd lynch him and not lose sleep but i cant form a slam dunk case. I find it quite weird you treat this as anti-town behavior for some reasons: 1) Every vote particularly during D1 is "pressure", since noone has a good clue who is mafia (especially seems to be true this game since nobody really seems to have a even remotely good case they trust. 2) You said yourself, before voting for Chezinu, at twice, that pressure on Chezinu is good and should be kept up. Why did you say that while simultaneously claiming if you announce pressure it loses power over the target? Well i tried to pretend I had a reason Hate this, town doesn't do this.
On August 28 2023 08:45 DarthPunk wrote:
Don't want to Lynch VE.
I do want to lynch MATHENALIN.
I could compromise onto Chezinu but I don't have a good grasp on his alignment so it would be tossing a coin and for future thread health.
##Vote: Mathenalin
the next post after voting math we get this:
On August 28 2023 08:47 DarthPunk wrote:
I'll lynch chezinu over VE, but can you read my posts about math, read his filter and get back to me.
I will come back to this but first all mentions about math in DP filter page 4-5-6-7:
On August 28 2023 09:08 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 09:08 Vivax wrote:On August 28 2023 09:01 iamperfection wrote:On August 28 2023 09:01 Chezinu wrote:
Ah the demons are out I see. your the only demon i see right now Amen Banish the creature. Idk why DP is so un-okay with this option maybe we‘re disposing of one of his horned minions I literally said I was ok with it, I just think Math is scum.
On August 28 2023 09:39 DarthPunk wrote:
Meh there is something there with Math, but I can't exactly find what it is..
I BUT ALSO DP WANTS YOU TO DOUBLE CHECK WHAT I WRITE. GO LOOK INTO 80 POSTS OF DP FOR MENTIONS OF MATH. You will only find the above and this:
spoiler cuz holy fuck:
+ Show Spoiler +On August 28 2023 09:31 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 09:27 die_meatbaby wrote:On August 28 2023 09:26 DarthPunk wrote:On August 28 2023 09:25 TankTopTiger wrote:
Can I ask why a town Chez would say that?
vanilla town Chez: Oh no I'm dying
vanilla town Chez: Better make sure the blue role dies too What the fuck are you on about? same thoughts... Who would you lynch out of VE, Math and Chezinu? Cause we need to consolidate onto a wagon right now. On August 28 2023 09:47 DarthPunk wrote:
are you around TTT did you finish filter diving Math? On August 28 2023 10:25 DarthPunk wrote:
TTT hows that Mathenalin filter dive coming along On August 28 2023 10:26 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 10:25 TankTopTiger wrote:
If you're standing by everything you've said in this exchange, I don't see a way for a green DP to keep that all in his head at once. Still won't vote for you D1, as I think that only takes votes off Chez and does not put any meaningful votes on you.
But yeah I'm pretty sure you're mafia if you're claiming to actually believe this stuff. Why am i mafia for thinking that? Why won't you post about mathenalin after saying you would filter dive him hours ago. On August 28 2023 10:57 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 10:57 Chezinu wrote:
That or Vivax is having a mental breakdown Do you still think Mathenalin is red? On August 28 2023 11:18 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 11:16 iamperfection wrote:On August 28 2023 10:40 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 28 2023 08:47 DarthPunk wrote:
I'll lynch chezinu over VE, but can you read my posts about math, read his filter and get back to me. *tentative fistbump*? what do you think of this DP. Mission accomplished that he isnt getting lynched then fucks off? I think he was at work, and not able to post that much. TBH he isn't looking great still, but I'd rather lynch math and TTT at this point. On August 28 2023 11:25 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 11:23 JacobStrangelove wrote:
I honestly don't get the math and ttt reads tbh. Can you spell out the cases in one place for clarity? Read my big post. but yeah I will summarise later. I am supposed to be working after all. Something to consider: 2 townies on the Math wagon, the lack of traction there is interesting to me.
Ok. So in 80 posts aka 4 pages we only got 2 reasons:
1) math checked the temperature before voting
2) math said he pretended to have a reason. But if you read the conversation with rayn it is not that he caught pretending to have a reason but that he pressured with pretending to have a reason. So I am not sure what DP is saying that townies don't do that. DP most likely just read "pretend" and went with it.
Now asks yourself. Is this good enough for DP to not follow marv; rayn, iamp; koshi into VE? Maybe yes because he townreads VE for reasons given in his big catch up post which I am too stupid for to understand but you can go and figure it out.
But are there other targets that DP should have voted instead of math?
On August 28 2023 08:43 DarthPunk wrote:
Catch up post:
I have some issues with TTT this game I think.
Generally I would expect Mafia!TTT to still have good points, to seem coherent and logical and to ask questions that are reasonable and pertinent.
The difference is that as Mafia they fail to lead to anything productive or execute a scumhunting agenda.
In endures 1 and 2 TTT was clearly pushing a scumhunting agenda, and in these past two starts I haven't seen that from him really at all.
I think the attempted trap on Vivax was something I saw him use on marv in Endures 1 so that is a potential town trait.
I also think he would have improved his play from feedback from last game, so yeah, not green on TTT which is not really something I enjoy.
On August 28 2023 09:28 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 09:24 die_meatbaby wrote:
I suspect too many players at the moment and have only one townread (Koshi)
IMP has a strange way of playing/writing. Before I vote you I have to read through old games of yours.
Vivax behaves exactly the same as in the very first game when he was dr. Maybe I am colorblind, but maybe not
My grandma told me once i should never vote on somebody with a nicename Chez otherwise a ghost comes to haunt you in every game in PC.
#vote TTT
To be honest, I can't describe it.
It's just missing. It miss the ambition you have to find the wolf. It miss the discussions when you focus on a player and put him under pressure. There is just so much missing.
It feels like a different person is playing in this game. I can't help but see you on the Red team. This is basically how I feel about TTT at this point as well
On August 28 2023 10:02 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 09:59 TankTopTiger wrote:Mmmm you first. @DP
Name one game in the last five years in which I was confirmed town at this point in the game? You're being a bozo. I literally talked to you about this between games, that you think I'm somehow confirmed town D1, but I wasn't present D1 in endurance I, and in endurance II I basically sheeped you D1. Where does this "strong independent confirmed town D1" TTT myth come from? I've made it pretty clear I don't like D1 because it's a low information environment and so most of this is just a dance with no real conviction. I hate this so much from you. I'm pretty sure the last time I describe D1 to you it was that "it's cancer". You just don't make sense to me. There isn't a coherent worldview there when I know I've talked to you about this stuff. I don't care about what other people think about you day one or what you think of your self, I know that, to me, I generally don't want to lynch you and shield you from others even because I can see reasons that you are town. The past two games (this and the aborted version) I haven't seen that. There is no reason to protect you, or even not lynch you at this point.
On August 28 2023 10:51 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 10:45 TankTopTiger wrote:On August 28 2023 10:40 die_meatbaby wrote:On August 28 2023 10:25 TankTopTiger wrote:
If you're standing by everything you've said in this exchange, I don't see a way for a green DP to keep that all in his head at once. Still won't vote for you D1, as I think that only takes votes off Chez and does not put any meaningful votes on you.
But yeah I'm pretty sure you're mafia if you're claiming to actually believe this stuff. This is what I meant. This is what makes you red. Town TTT would not do that. Town TTT would ignore this und would try to get everybody to go the his original suspect and don´t just suspect somebody who was suspecting him. This is definitely not a Town game you make here. Thats not TTT what i am used do DMB, everyone is already on my lynch. There is no need to refocus town because unless something changes, I get my way. Regarding the OMGUS, yes it is in a way, but it's not just that. Town DP doesn't do this. DP respects my late game after Endures I, he made up my aptitude in early game. Town DP does not think that "D1 is when you first post". Town DP does not give up town equity on a scaler over them not having proven themselves early in the game. You'll note I'm not filtering DP rn. I'm not making a huge war. I'm in a back and forth because I want to get him to take hard stances that he can't take back later if/when I actually go after him. You don;t really understand what I said about you do you. I am not saying you play well day 1 or at the start of games. I am saying that usually, within 24-48 hours of you being in a game, there are reasons for me to feel you could be town. usually because you are posting logical and insightful questions or arguments that resonate with my view of the game. This is why we are usually on the same page. But this game is absent of that, and your posts, while logical are lacking insight, and do not resonate with me. I agree to others you look weak when you start posting, but not to me which is what matters to me. Also I am not giving up town equity here even if you are town somehow. So not sure what you are actually saying here again. See this is another example of what you are saying is logically right, but meaningfully absent.
This is bottom page 6.
So I ask again. Should DP be on mathelin or TTT?
He ended up on math over TTT over VE.
Why?
Mafia!DP knew VE and Chez would flip town and was preparing misslynch number 3. That's why.
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On August 31 2023 03:40 iamperfection wrote:
Hopefully this is one of the rare instances where a sequel is better then the original
Very funny.
I am realising I am quite terrible and slow at writing cases but if you see the big picture in the end it will be glorious.
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Part 3. The LS vote:
I wanted part 3 to be cronological and be about how DP talked to rayn during the night and how DP was mafia in rayn his team of 4. BUT I think this is a better fit.
On August 30 2023 23:12 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Two Vote Count
LightningStrike (5): JacobStrangelove, mathenalin, Koshi, Vivax, Vivax, DarthPunk, marvellosity
mathenalin (2): JacobStranglelove, iamperfection, JacobStrangelove, DarthPunk
DarthPunk (1): TankTopTiger
TankTopTiger (0): marvellosity, JacobStrangelove, Vivax
Not Voting (2): LightningStrike, die_meatbaby
With 5 votes, LightningStrike is currently set to be lynched!
The deadline is Thursday, Aug 31 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in
So I have very very carefully read DP filter up to page 8 and I can tell you there is little about LS. You can check this yurself because I can't believe it and it is hard to filter on 'LS' but I found this:
On August 27 2023 10:42 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2023 21:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
oh look iamp was skilled enough to fake that town tell.
:OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
So this game. I think everyone who's posted is town. I want to lynch whoever hasn't posted starting.....now.
ezD1 This post (and his subsequent posts) make me not like VE. I feel like creating arbitrary pools of lynch candidates actually just means he doesn;t have to play the game, the start of last game he was actually playing and had productive posts immediately. IIRC in Endures 1 he was pretty keen to lynch lurkers too. LS looking better to me this game. Show nested quote +On August 27 2023 00:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:I was gonna speedread in my 10mins, butthere was nothing to read. Is LS mafia now as he looks more town to me than last game lol? Iamp probs town here.
On August 27 2023 21:35 DarthPunk wrote:
who you want to lynch right now LS?
So if somebody can tell me how to look with capital only letters in Chrome let me know.
Anyway. I have read many posts of DP and LS is not existant.
On the other hand. In his biggest scumread Math his filter LS is constantly mentioned.
So what happens right before he leaves and will not be able to come back till deadline?
He votes LS.
Why?
Because marv voted LS.
Is that consistent?
No, because marv voted VE and did DP vote VE?
No, DP voted Math. Who also voted LS and has been pushing LS.
So does this make sense?
No
Koshi, can you make this make sense?
Yes, LS is mafia and mafia!DP wants kred if his buddy flips.
Really Koshi?
Yes really, did you also see that DP said he couldn't come back. But then also said he might be able to come back in a later post?
Yes, go on Koshi.
Well that is because DP wants to swap his vote from his scumbuddy!LS if necessairy/possible.
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On August 31 2023 04:12 iamperfection wrote:
Who are his teammates if you had to guess
please read part 3
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On August 31 2023 04:20 iamperfection wrote:
And if ls is town?
I am living in a world in which LS & DP are mafia.
If LS is town, DP and marv are mafia.
So common idea is. DP is mafia.
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common is probably the wrong word. But you get it.
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Do you really want to theorycraft a world in which DP and marv are mafia?
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That is a very scary world.
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Misslynches would be LS, TTT and math.
And in that world I see Jason be mafia number 3.
He lied about me to push rayn kill onto me. Never forget.
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I am not even a misslynch in that world
Which is my main wincon for this game.
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Oh wait. No I can still be lynched. Just need to make a big towncase on TTT.
I think I can do it.
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Part 4) rayn
On August 28 2023 21:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i have to sleep before work.
VE/LS/TTT/DP.
For now i think it doesnt get harder than that.
Yes I am getting tired
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I am going to quit and continue with this case tomorrow.
That was a small teaser on why rayn was killed.
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On August 31 2023 04:38 iamperfection wrote:
Your rayn argument is very weak considering his top scum was ve and he said he wasn't considering math because of ve.
The core of my rayn argument is that rayn pressured DP during the night ans then rayn died. Who else except VE did rayn pressure?
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On August 31 2023 04:44 iamperfection wrote:
I mean we can speculate all we want it's pretty much impossible to know exactly what they were thinking. Maybe they just killed him because he's a good player.
Yes. Or because DP is mafia and felt threatened. Or both.
It's part 4 of a case. Nothing alone makes DP 100% mafia. Nothing ever will do that.
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On August 31 2023 04:47 iamperfection wrote:
Is there any chance dp isn't Mafia in your mind?
No. Only between the 2 TTT posts I had him as potential town with no reason behind it except he and TTT are not mafia together.
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On August 31 2023 05:08 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2023 04:04 Koshi wrote:2) Math, Chez and VE. We are currently on page 4 of DP his filter and except for shitfighting with Vivax and me he hasn't done shit. So after rayn, marv, iamp and Koshi talk about VE and vote VE. DP comes in the thread and starts with saying he doesn't want to lynch VE but wants to lynch math. You are all free to look yourself and look for posts of DP looking into Math but you won't find any except these: On August 28 2023 08:43 DarthPunk wrote:Catch up post: On August 28 2023 03:27 mathenalin wrote:
Am i a snowflake if i vote VE or is his vote on me so unbelievably bad that its warranted
This post is sus as fuck. Why is he checking the temperature of the thread before he votes? Like if you are town you know this motherfucker is wrong about you and trying to kill you. The self awareness of how he is being perceived in the thread strikes me. On August 28 2023 03:36 mathenalin wrote:On August 28 2023 03:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 28 2023 03:25 mathenalin wrote:On August 28 2023 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
mathenalin, around 10 hours ago you said you were prioritizing getting a read on iamp and Jacob. I see you formed a read on iamp but there is no mention in your filter about Jacob (even after you talked with DP about your reads -- so it doesn't fall under "if anyone has questions for me" anymore i guess).
Did you ever form a read on Jacob? I'd say i don't like him but i cant point to anything as, thats scum behaviour. His point about dp following rules and iamp being "on point" was silly. His vote on marv being anything other than a joke. Then talking about voting chez but immediately calling it a "pressure" vote which instantly makes it lose power.I'd lynch him and not lose sleep but i cant form a slam dunk case. I find it quite weird you treat this as anti-town behavior for some reasons: 1) Every vote particularly during D1 is "pressure", since noone has a good clue who is mafia (especially seems to be true this game since nobody really seems to have a even remotely good case they trust. 2) You said yourself, before voting for Chezinu, at twice, that pressure on Chezinu is good and should be kept up. Why did you say that while simultaneously claiming if you announce pressure it loses power over the target? Well i tried to pretend I had a reason Hate this, town doesn't do this. On August 28 2023 08:45 DarthPunk wrote:
Don't want to Lynch VE.
I do want to lynch MATHENALIN.
I could compromise onto Chezinu but I don't have a good grasp on his alignment so it would be tossing a coin and for future thread health.
##Vote: Mathenalin the next post after voting math we get this: On August 28 2023 08:47 DarthPunk wrote:
I'll lynch chezinu over VE, but can you read my posts about math, read his filter and get back to me. I will come back to this but first all mentions about math in DP filter page 4-5-6-7: On August 28 2023 09:08 DarthPunk wrote:On August 28 2023 09:08 Vivax wrote:On August 28 2023 09:01 iamperfection wrote:On August 28 2023 09:01 Chezinu wrote:
Ah the demons are out I see. your the only demon i see right now Amen Banish the creature. Idk why DP is so un-okay with this option maybe we‘re disposing of one of his horned minions I literally said I was ok with it, I just think Math is scum. On August 28 2023 09:39 DarthPunk wrote:
Meh there is something there with Math, but I can't exactly find what it is.. I BUT ALSO DP WANTS YOU TO DOUBLE CHECK WHAT I WRITE. GO LOOK INTO 80 POSTS OF DP FOR MENTIONS OF MATH. You will only find the above and this: spoiler cuz holy fuck: + Show Spoiler +On August 28 2023 09:31 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 09:27 die_meatbaby wrote:On August 28 2023 09:26 DarthPunk wrote:On August 28 2023 09:25 TankTopTiger wrote:
Can I ask why a town Chez would say that?
vanilla town Chez: Oh no I'm dying
vanilla town Chez: Better make sure the blue role dies too What the fuck are you on about? same thoughts... Who would you lynch out of VE, Math and Chezinu? Cause we need to consolidate onto a wagon right now. On August 28 2023 09:47 DarthPunk wrote:
are you around TTT did you finish filter diving Math? On August 28 2023 10:25 DarthPunk wrote:
TTT hows that Mathenalin filter dive coming along On August 28 2023 10:26 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 10:25 TankTopTiger wrote:
If you're standing by everything you've said in this exchange, I don't see a way for a green DP to keep that all in his head at once. Still won't vote for you D1, as I think that only takes votes off Chez and does not put any meaningful votes on you.
But yeah I'm pretty sure you're mafia if you're claiming to actually believe this stuff. Why am i mafia for thinking that? Why won't you post about mathenalin after saying you would filter dive him hours ago. On August 28 2023 10:57 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 10:57 Chezinu wrote:
That or Vivax is having a mental breakdown Do you still think Mathenalin is red? On August 28 2023 11:18 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 11:16 iamperfection wrote:On August 28 2023 10:40 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 28 2023 08:47 DarthPunk wrote:
I'll lynch chezinu over VE, but can you read my posts about math, read his filter and get back to me. *tentative fistbump*? what do you think of this DP. Mission accomplished that he isnt getting lynched then fucks off? I think he was at work, and not able to post that much. TBH he isn't looking great still, but I'd rather lynch math and TTT at this point. On August 28 2023 11:25 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 11:23 JacobStrangelove wrote:
I honestly don't get the math and ttt reads tbh. Can you spell out the cases in one place for clarity? Read my big post. but yeah I will summarise later. I am supposed to be working after all. Something to consider: 2 townies on the Math wagon, the lack of traction there is interesting to me. Ok. So in 80 posts aka 4 pages we only got 2 reasons: 1) math checked the temperature before voting 2) math said he pretended to have a reason. But if you read the conversation with rayn it is not that he caught pretending to have a reason but that he pressured with pretending to have a reason. So I am not sure what DP is saying that townies don't do that. DP most likely just read "pretend" and went with it. Now asks yourself. Is this good enough for DP to not follow marv; rayn, iamp; koshi into VE? Maybe yes because he townreads VE for reasons given in his big catch up post which I am too stupid for to understand but you can go and figure it out. But are there other targets that DP should have voted instead of math? On August 28 2023 08:43 DarthPunk wrote:
Catch up post:
I have some issues with TTT this game I think.
Generally I would expect Mafia!TTT to still have good points, to seem coherent and logical and to ask questions that are reasonable and pertinent.
The difference is that as Mafia they fail to lead to anything productive or execute a scumhunting agenda.
In endures 1 and 2 TTT was clearly pushing a scumhunting agenda, and in these past two starts I haven't seen that from him really at all.
I think the attempted trap on Vivax was something I saw him use on marv in Endures 1 so that is a potential town trait.
I also think he would have improved his play from feedback from last game, so yeah, not green on TTT which is not really something I enjoy. On August 28 2023 09:28 DarthPunk wrote:On August 28 2023 09:24 die_meatbaby wrote:
I suspect too many players at the moment and have only one townread (Koshi)
IMP has a strange way of playing/writing. Before I vote you I have to read through old games of yours.
Vivax behaves exactly the same as in the very first game when he was dr. Maybe I am colorblind, but maybe not
My grandma told me once i should never vote on somebody with a nicename Chez otherwise a ghost comes to haunt you in every game in PC.
#vote TTT
To be honest, I can't describe it.
It's just missing. It miss the ambition you have to find the wolf. It miss the discussions when you focus on a player and put him under pressure. There is just so much missing.
It feels like a different person is playing in this game. I can't help but see you on the Red team. This is basically how I feel about TTT at this point as well On August 28 2023 10:02 DarthPunk wrote:On August 28 2023 09:59 TankTopTiger wrote:Mmmm you first. @DP
Name one game in the last five years in which I was confirmed town at this point in the game? You're being a bozo. I literally talked to you about this between games, that you think I'm somehow confirmed town D1, but I wasn't present D1 in endurance I, and in endurance II I basically sheeped you D1. Where does this "strong independent confirmed town D1" TTT myth come from? I've made it pretty clear I don't like D1 because it's a low information environment and so most of this is just a dance with no real conviction. I hate this so much from you. I'm pretty sure the last time I describe D1 to you it was that "it's cancer". You just don't make sense to me. There isn't a coherent worldview there when I know I've talked to you about this stuff. I don't care about what other people think about you day one or what you think of your self, I know that, to me, I generally don't want to lynch you and shield you from others even because I can see reasons that you are town. The past two games (this and the aborted version) I haven't seen that. There is no reason to protect you, or even not lynch you at this point. On August 28 2023 10:51 DarthPunk wrote:On August 28 2023 10:45 TankTopTiger wrote:On August 28 2023 10:40 die_meatbaby wrote:On August 28 2023 10:25 TankTopTiger wrote:
If you're standing by everything you've said in this exchange, I don't see a way for a green DP to keep that all in his head at once. Still won't vote for you D1, as I think that only takes votes off Chez and does not put any meaningful votes on you.
But yeah I'm pretty sure you're mafia if you're claiming to actually believe this stuff. This is what I meant. This is what makes you red. Town TTT would not do that. Town TTT would ignore this und would try to get everybody to go the his original suspect and don´t just suspect somebody who was suspecting him. This is definitely not a Town game you make here. Thats not TTT what i am used do DMB, everyone is already on my lynch. There is no need to refocus town because unless something changes, I get my way. Regarding the OMGUS, yes it is in a way, but it's not just that. Town DP doesn't do this. DP respects my late game after Endures I, he made up my aptitude in early game. Town DP does not think that "D1 is when you first post". Town DP does not give up town equity on a scaler over them not having proven themselves early in the game. You'll note I'm not filtering DP rn. I'm not making a huge war. I'm in a back and forth because I want to get him to take hard stances that he can't take back later if/when I actually go after him. You don;t really understand what I said about you do you. I am not saying you play well day 1 or at the start of games. I am saying that usually, within 24-48 hours of you being in a game, there are reasons for me to feel you could be town. usually because you are posting logical and insightful questions or arguments that resonate with my view of the game. This is why we are usually on the same page. But this game is absent of that, and your posts, while logical are lacking insight, and do not resonate with me. I agree to others you look weak when you start posting, but not to me which is what matters to me. Also I am not giving up town equity here even if you are town somehow. So not sure what you are actually saying here again. See this is another example of what you are saying is logically right, but meaningfully absent. This is bottom page 6. So I ask again. Should DP be on mathelin or TTT? He ended up on math over TTT over VE. Why? Mafia!DP knew VE and Chez would flip town and was preparing misslynch number 3. That's why. Or I thought chez and ve were town cause I am good at the game. But it is very nice being called mafia because of tmi when I am town. Especially from you lmao 🤣
Why especially from me?
Also. The biggest point is you not voting TTT over Math.
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On August 31 2023 05:53 DarthPunk wrote:Hahaha translation: my case was shit and dp pointed it out.
I guess I now understand why already 2 people stopped playing this game after you antagonised them.
Good stuff.
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Anyway. I am thick skinned so it's ok. Part of the game.
But please answer. As normal as possible.
On August 31 2023 05:54 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2023 05:08 DarthPunk wrote:On August 31 2023 04:04 Koshi wrote:2) Math, Chez and VE. We are currently on page 4 of DP his filter and except for shitfighting with Vivax and me he hasn't done shit. So after rayn, marv, iamp and Koshi talk about VE and vote VE. DP comes in the thread and starts with saying he doesn't want to lynch VE but wants to lynch math. You are all free to look yourself and look for posts of DP looking into Math but you won't find any except these: On August 28 2023 08:43 DarthPunk wrote:Catch up post: On August 28 2023 03:27 mathenalin wrote:
Am i a snowflake if i vote VE or is his vote on me so unbelievably bad that its warranted
This post is sus as fuck. Why is he checking the temperature of the thread before he votes? Like if you are town you know this motherfucker is wrong about you and trying to kill you. The self awareness of how he is being perceived in the thread strikes me. On August 28 2023 03:36 mathenalin wrote:On August 28 2023 03:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 28 2023 03:25 mathenalin wrote:On August 28 2023 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
mathenalin, around 10 hours ago you said you were prioritizing getting a read on iamp and Jacob. I see you formed a read on iamp but there is no mention in your filter about Jacob (even after you talked with DP about your reads -- so it doesn't fall under "if anyone has questions for me" anymore i guess).
Did you ever form a read on Jacob? I'd say i don't like him but i cant point to anything as, thats scum behaviour. His point about dp following rules and iamp being "on point" was silly. His vote on marv being anything other than a joke. Then talking about voting chez but immediately calling it a "pressure" vote which instantly makes it lose power.I'd lynch him and not lose sleep but i cant form a slam dunk case. I find it quite weird you treat this as anti-town behavior for some reasons: 1) Every vote particularly during D1 is "pressure", since noone has a good clue who is mafia (especially seems to be true this game since nobody really seems to have a even remotely good case they trust. 2) You said yourself, before voting for Chezinu, at twice, that pressure on Chezinu is good and should be kept up. Why did you say that while simultaneously claiming if you announce pressure it loses power over the target? Well i tried to pretend I had a reason Hate this, town doesn't do this. On August 28 2023 08:45 DarthPunk wrote:
Don't want to Lynch VE.
I do want to lynch MATHENALIN.
I could compromise onto Chezinu but I don't have a good grasp on his alignment so it would be tossing a coin and for future thread health.
##Vote: Mathenalin the next post after voting math we get this: On August 28 2023 08:47 DarthPunk wrote:
I'll lynch chezinu over VE, but can you read my posts about math, read his filter and get back to me. I will come back to this but first all mentions about math in DP filter page 4-5-6-7: On August 28 2023 09:08 DarthPunk wrote:On August 28 2023 09:08 Vivax wrote:On August 28 2023 09:01 iamperfection wrote:On August 28 2023 09:01 Chezinu wrote:
Ah the demons are out I see. your the only demon i see right now Amen Banish the creature. Idk why DP is so un-okay with this option maybe we‘re disposing of one of his horned minions I literally said I was ok with it, I just think Math is scum. On August 28 2023 09:39 DarthPunk wrote:
Meh there is something there with Math, but I can't exactly find what it is.. I BUT ALSO DP WANTS YOU TO DOUBLE CHECK WHAT I WRITE. GO LOOK INTO 80 POSTS OF DP FOR MENTIONS OF MATH. You will only find the above and this: spoiler cuz holy fuck: + Show Spoiler +On August 28 2023 09:31 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 09:27 die_meatbaby wrote:On August 28 2023 09:26 DarthPunk wrote:On August 28 2023 09:25 TankTopTiger wrote:
Can I ask why a town Chez would say that?
vanilla town Chez: Oh no I'm dying
vanilla town Chez: Better make sure the blue role dies too What the fuck are you on about? same thoughts... Who would you lynch out of VE, Math and Chezinu? Cause we need to consolidate onto a wagon right now. On August 28 2023 09:47 DarthPunk wrote:
are you around TTT did you finish filter diving Math? On August 28 2023 10:25 DarthPunk wrote:
TTT hows that Mathenalin filter dive coming along On August 28 2023 10:26 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 10:25 TankTopTiger wrote:
If you're standing by everything you've said in this exchange, I don't see a way for a green DP to keep that all in his head at once. Still won't vote for you D1, as I think that only takes votes off Chez and does not put any meaningful votes on you.
But yeah I'm pretty sure you're mafia if you're claiming to actually believe this stuff. Why am i mafia for thinking that? Why won't you post about mathenalin after saying you would filter dive him hours ago. On August 28 2023 10:57 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 10:57 Chezinu wrote:
That or Vivax is having a mental breakdown Do you still think Mathenalin is red? On August 28 2023 11:18 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 11:16 iamperfection wrote:On August 28 2023 10:40 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 28 2023 08:47 DarthPunk wrote:
I'll lynch chezinu over VE, but can you read my posts about math, read his filter and get back to me. *tentative fistbump*? what do you think of this DP. Mission accomplished that he isnt getting lynched then fucks off? I think he was at work, and not able to post that much. TBH he isn't looking great still, but I'd rather lynch math and TTT at this point. On August 28 2023 11:25 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 11:23 JacobStrangelove wrote:
I honestly don't get the math and ttt reads tbh. Can you spell out the cases in one place for clarity? Read my big post. but yeah I will summarise later. I am supposed to be working after all. Something to consider: 2 townies on the Math wagon, the lack of traction there is interesting to me. Ok. So in 80 posts aka 4 pages we only got 2 reasons: 1) math checked the temperature before voting 2) math said he pretended to have a reason. But if you read the conversation with rayn it is not that he caught pretending to have a reason but that he pressured with pretending to have a reason. So I am not sure what DP is saying that townies don't do that. DP most likely just read "pretend" and went with it. Now asks yourself. Is this good enough for DP to not follow marv; rayn, iamp; koshi into VE? Maybe yes because he townreads VE for reasons given in his big catch up post which I am too stupid for to understand but you can go and figure it out. But are there other targets that DP should have voted instead of math? On August 28 2023 08:43 DarthPunk wrote:
Catch up post:
I have some issues with TTT this game I think.
Generally I would expect Mafia!TTT to still have good points, to seem coherent and logical and to ask questions that are reasonable and pertinent.
The difference is that as Mafia they fail to lead to anything productive or execute a scumhunting agenda.
In endures 1 and 2 TTT was clearly pushing a scumhunting agenda, and in these past two starts I haven't seen that from him really at all.
I think the attempted trap on Vivax was something I saw him use on marv in Endures 1 so that is a potential town trait.
I also think he would have improved his play from feedback from last game, so yeah, not green on TTT which is not really something I enjoy. On August 28 2023 09:28 DarthPunk wrote:On August 28 2023 09:24 die_meatbaby wrote:
I suspect too many players at the moment and have only one townread (Koshi)
IMP has a strange way of playing/writing. Before I vote you I have to read through old games of yours.
Vivax behaves exactly the same as in the very first game when he was dr. Maybe I am colorblind, but maybe not
My grandma told me once i should never vote on somebody with a nicename Chez otherwise a ghost comes to haunt you in every game in PC.
#vote TTT
To be honest, I can't describe it.
It's just missing. It miss the ambition you have to find the wolf. It miss the discussions when you focus on a player and put him under pressure. There is just so much missing.
It feels like a different person is playing in this game. I can't help but see you on the Red team. This is basically how I feel about TTT at this point as well On August 28 2023 10:02 DarthPunk wrote:On August 28 2023 09:59 TankTopTiger wrote:Mmmm you first. @DP
Name one game in the last five years in which I was confirmed town at this point in the game? You're being a bozo. I literally talked to you about this between games, that you think I'm somehow confirmed town D1, but I wasn't present D1 in endurance I, and in endurance II I basically sheeped you D1. Where does this "strong independent confirmed town D1" TTT myth come from? I've made it pretty clear I don't like D1 because it's a low information environment and so most of this is just a dance with no real conviction. I hate this so much from you. I'm pretty sure the last time I describe D1 to you it was that "it's cancer". You just don't make sense to me. There isn't a coherent worldview there when I know I've talked to you about this stuff. I don't care about what other people think about you day one or what you think of your self, I know that, to me, I generally don't want to lynch you and shield you from others even because I can see reasons that you are town. The past two games (this and the aborted version) I haven't seen that. There is no reason to protect you, or even not lynch you at this point. On August 28 2023 10:51 DarthPunk wrote:On August 28 2023 10:45 TankTopTiger wrote:On August 28 2023 10:40 die_meatbaby wrote:On August 28 2023 10:25 TankTopTiger wrote:
If you're standing by everything you've said in this exchange, I don't see a way for a green DP to keep that all in his head at once. Still won't vote for you D1, as I think that only takes votes off Chez and does not put any meaningful votes on you.
But yeah I'm pretty sure you're mafia if you're claiming to actually believe this stuff. This is what I meant. This is what makes you red. Town TTT would not do that. Town TTT would ignore this und would try to get everybody to go the his original suspect and don´t just suspect somebody who was suspecting him. This is definitely not a Town game you make here. Thats not TTT what i am used do DMB, everyone is already on my lynch. There is no need to refocus town because unless something changes, I get my way. Regarding the OMGUS, yes it is in a way, but it's not just that. Town DP doesn't do this. DP respects my late game after Endures I, he made up my aptitude in early game. Town DP does not think that "D1 is when you first post". Town DP does not give up town equity on a scaler over them not having proven themselves early in the game. You'll note I'm not filtering DP rn. I'm not making a huge war. I'm in a back and forth because I want to get him to take hard stances that he can't take back later if/when I actually go after him. You don;t really understand what I said about you do you. I am not saying you play well day 1 or at the start of games. I am saying that usually, within 24-48 hours of you being in a game, there are reasons for me to feel you could be town. usually because you are posting logical and insightful questions or arguments that resonate with my view of the game. This is why we are usually on the same page. But this game is absent of that, and your posts, while logical are lacking insight, and do not resonate with me. I agree to others you look weak when you start posting, but not to me which is what matters to me. Also I am not giving up town equity here even if you are town somehow. So not sure what you are actually saying here again. See this is another example of what you are saying is logically right, but meaningfully absent. This is bottom page 6. So I ask again. Should DP be on mathelin or TTT? He ended up on math over TTT over VE. Why? Mafia!DP knew VE and Chez would flip town and was preparing misslynch number 3. That's why. Or I thought chez and ve were town cause I am good at the game. But it is very nice being called mafia because of tmi when I am town. Especially from you lmao 🤣 Why especially from me? Also. The biggest point is you not voting TTT over Math.
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On August 31 2023 05:56 DarthPunk wrote:Hahaha translation: my case was shit and dp pointed it out.
I guess I now understand why already 2 people stopped playing this game after you antagonised them.
Good stuff.
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On August 31 2023 06:01 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2023 05:56 Koshi wrote:Anyway. I am thick skinned so it's ok. Part of the game. But please answer. As normal as possible. On August 31 2023 05:54 Koshi wrote:On August 31 2023 05:08 DarthPunk wrote:On August 31 2023 04:04 Koshi wrote:2) Math, Chez and VE. We are currently on page 4 of DP his filter and except for shitfighting with Vivax and me he hasn't done shit. So after rayn, marv, iamp and Koshi talk about VE and vote VE. DP comes in the thread and starts with saying he doesn't want to lynch VE but wants to lynch math. You are all free to look yourself and look for posts of DP looking into Math but you won't find any except these: On August 28 2023 08:43 DarthPunk wrote:Catch up post: On August 28 2023 03:27 mathenalin wrote:
Am i a snowflake if i vote VE or is his vote on me so unbelievably bad that its warranted
This post is sus as fuck. Why is he checking the temperature of the thread before he votes? Like if you are town you know this motherfucker is wrong about you and trying to kill you. The self awareness of how he is being perceived in the thread strikes me. On August 28 2023 03:36 mathenalin wrote:On August 28 2023 03:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 28 2023 03:25 mathenalin wrote:On August 28 2023 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
mathenalin, around 10 hours ago you said you were prioritizing getting a read on iamp and Jacob. I see you formed a read on iamp but there is no mention in your filter about Jacob (even after you talked with DP about your reads -- so it doesn't fall under "if anyone has questions for me" anymore i guess).
Did you ever form a read on Jacob? I'd say i don't like him but i cant point to anything as, thats scum behaviour. His point about dp following rules and iamp being "on point" was silly. His vote on marv being anything other than a joke. Then talking about voting chez but immediately calling it a "pressure" vote which instantly makes it lose power.I'd lynch him and not lose sleep but i cant form a slam dunk case. I find it quite weird you treat this as anti-town behavior for some reasons: 1) Every vote particularly during D1 is "pressure", since noone has a good clue who is mafia (especially seems to be true this game since nobody really seems to have a even remotely good case they trust. 2) You said yourself, before voting for Chezinu, at twice, that pressure on Chezinu is good and should be kept up. Why did you say that while simultaneously claiming if you announce pressure it loses power over the target? Well i tried to pretend I had a reason Hate this, town doesn't do this. On August 28 2023 08:45 DarthPunk wrote:
Don't want to Lynch VE.
I do want to lynch MATHENALIN.
I could compromise onto Chezinu but I don't have a good grasp on his alignment so it would be tossing a coin and for future thread health.
##Vote: Mathenalin the next post after voting math we get this: On August 28 2023 08:47 DarthPunk wrote:
I'll lynch chezinu over VE, but can you read my posts about math, read his filter and get back to me. I will come back to this but first all mentions about math in DP filter page 4-5-6-7: On August 28 2023 09:08 DarthPunk wrote:On August 28 2023 09:08 Vivax wrote:On August 28 2023 09:01 iamperfection wrote:On August 28 2023 09:01 Chezinu wrote:
Ah the demons are out I see. your the only demon i see right now Amen Banish the creature. Idk why DP is so un-okay with this option maybe we‘re disposing of one of his horned minions I literally said I was ok with it, I just think Math is scum. On August 28 2023 09:39 DarthPunk wrote:
Meh there is something there with Math, but I can't exactly find what it is.. I BUT ALSO DP WANTS YOU TO DOUBLE CHECK WHAT I WRITE. GO LOOK INTO 80 POSTS OF DP FOR MENTIONS OF MATH. You will only find the above and this: spoiler cuz holy fuck: + Show Spoiler +On August 28 2023 09:31 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 09:27 die_meatbaby wrote:On August 28 2023 09:26 DarthPunk wrote:On August 28 2023 09:25 TankTopTiger wrote:
Can I ask why a town Chez would say that?
vanilla town Chez: Oh no I'm dying
vanilla town Chez: Better make sure the blue role dies too What the fuck are you on about? same thoughts... Who would you lynch out of VE, Math and Chezinu? Cause we need to consolidate onto a wagon right now. On August 28 2023 09:47 DarthPunk wrote:
are you around TTT did you finish filter diving Math? On August 28 2023 10:25 DarthPunk wrote:
TTT hows that Mathenalin filter dive coming along On August 28 2023 10:26 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 10:25 TankTopTiger wrote:
If you're standing by everything you've said in this exchange, I don't see a way for a green DP to keep that all in his head at once. Still won't vote for you D1, as I think that only takes votes off Chez and does not put any meaningful votes on you.
But yeah I'm pretty sure you're mafia if you're claiming to actually believe this stuff. Why am i mafia for thinking that? Why won't you post about mathenalin after saying you would filter dive him hours ago. On August 28 2023 10:57 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 10:57 Chezinu wrote:
That or Vivax is having a mental breakdown Do you still think Mathenalin is red? On August 28 2023 11:18 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 11:16 iamperfection wrote:On August 28 2023 10:40 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 28 2023 08:47 DarthPunk wrote:
I'll lynch chezinu over VE, but can you read my posts about math, read his filter and get back to me. *tentative fistbump*? what do you think of this DP. Mission accomplished that he isnt getting lynched then fucks off? I think he was at work, and not able to post that much. TBH he isn't looking great still, but I'd rather lynch math and TTT at this point. On August 28 2023 11:25 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 11:23 JacobStrangelove wrote:
I honestly don't get the math and ttt reads tbh. Can you spell out the cases in one place for clarity? Read my big post. but yeah I will summarise later. I am supposed to be working after all. Something to consider: 2 townies on the Math wagon, the lack of traction there is interesting to me. Ok. So in 80 posts aka 4 pages we only got 2 reasons: 1) math checked the temperature before voting 2) math said he pretended to have a reason. But if you read the conversation with rayn it is not that he caught pretending to have a reason but that he pressured with pretending to have a reason. So I am not sure what DP is saying that townies don't do that. DP most likely just read "pretend" and went with it. Now asks yourself. Is this good enough for DP to not follow marv; rayn, iamp; koshi into VE? Maybe yes because he townreads VE for reasons given in his big catch up post which I am too stupid for to understand but you can go and figure it out. But are there other targets that DP should have voted instead of math? On August 28 2023 08:43 DarthPunk wrote:
Catch up post:
I have some issues with TTT this game I think.
Generally I would expect Mafia!TTT to still have good points, to seem coherent and logical and to ask questions that are reasonable and pertinent.
The difference is that as Mafia they fail to lead to anything productive or execute a scumhunting agenda.
In endures 1 and 2 TTT was clearly pushing a scumhunting agenda, and in these past two starts I haven't seen that from him really at all.
I think the attempted trap on Vivax was something I saw him use on marv in Endures 1 so that is a potential town trait.
I also think he would have improved his play from feedback from last game, so yeah, not green on TTT which is not really something I enjoy. On August 28 2023 09:28 DarthPunk wrote:On August 28 2023 09:24 die_meatbaby wrote:
I suspect too many players at the moment and have only one townread (Koshi)
IMP has a strange way of playing/writing. Before I vote you I have to read through old games of yours.
Vivax behaves exactly the same as in the very first game when he was dr. Maybe I am colorblind, but maybe not
My grandma told me once i should never vote on somebody with a nicename Chez otherwise a ghost comes to haunt you in every game in PC.
#vote TTT
To be honest, I can't describe it.
It's just missing. It miss the ambition you have to find the wolf. It miss the discussions when you focus on a player and put him under pressure. There is just so much missing.
It feels like a different person is playing in this game. I can't help but see you on the Red team. This is basically how I feel about TTT at this point as well On August 28 2023 10:02 DarthPunk wrote:On August 28 2023 09:59 TankTopTiger wrote:Mmmm you first. @DP
Name one game in the last five years in which I was confirmed town at this point in the game? You're being a bozo. I literally talked to you about this between games, that you think I'm somehow confirmed town D1, but I wasn't present D1 in endurance I, and in endurance II I basically sheeped you D1. Where does this "strong independent confirmed town D1" TTT myth come from? I've made it pretty clear I don't like D1 because it's a low information environment and so most of this is just a dance with no real conviction. I hate this so much from you. I'm pretty sure the last time I describe D1 to you it was that "it's cancer". You just don't make sense to me. There isn't a coherent worldview there when I know I've talked to you about this stuff. I don't care about what other people think about you day one or what you think of your self, I know that, to me, I generally don't want to lynch you and shield you from others even because I can see reasons that you are town. The past two games (this and the aborted version) I haven't seen that. There is no reason to protect you, or even not lynch you at this point. On August 28 2023 10:51 DarthPunk wrote:On August 28 2023 10:45 TankTopTiger wrote:On August 28 2023 10:40 die_meatbaby wrote:On August 28 2023 10:25 TankTopTiger wrote:
If you're standing by everything you've said in this exchange, I don't see a way for a green DP to keep that all in his head at once. Still won't vote for you D1, as I think that only takes votes off Chez and does not put any meaningful votes on you.
But yeah I'm pretty sure you're mafia if you're claiming to actually believe this stuff. This is what I meant. This is what makes you red. Town TTT would not do that. Town TTT would ignore this und would try to get everybody to go the his original suspect and don´t just suspect somebody who was suspecting him. This is definitely not a Town game you make here. Thats not TTT what i am used do DMB, everyone is already on my lynch. There is no need to refocus town because unless something changes, I get my way. Regarding the OMGUS, yes it is in a way, but it's not just that. Town DP doesn't do this. DP respects my late game after Endures I, he made up my aptitude in early game. Town DP does not think that "D1 is when you first post". Town DP does not give up town equity on a scaler over them not having proven themselves early in the game. You'll note I'm not filtering DP rn. I'm not making a huge war. I'm in a back and forth because I want to get him to take hard stances that he can't take back later if/when I actually go after him. You don;t really understand what I said about you do you. I am not saying you play well day 1 or at the start of games. I am saying that usually, within 24-48 hours of you being in a game, there are reasons for me to feel you could be town. usually because you are posting logical and insightful questions or arguments that resonate with my view of the game. This is why we are usually on the same page. But this game is absent of that, and your posts, while logical are lacking insight, and do not resonate with me. I agree to others you look weak when you start posting, but not to me which is what matters to me. Also I am not giving up town equity here even if you are town somehow. So not sure what you are actually saying here again. See this is another example of what you are saying is logically right, but meaningfully absent. This is bottom page 6. So I ask again. Should DP be on mathelin or TTT? He ended up on math over TTT over VE. Why? Mafia!DP knew VE and Chez would flip town and was preparing misslynch number 3. That's why. Or I thought chez and ve were town cause I am good at the game. But it is very nice being called mafia because of tmi when I am town. Especially from you lmao 🤣 Why especially from me? Also. The biggest point is you not voting TTT over Math. Because of the ego and rage fest you pulled in endures one.
I dont understand
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I underqtand it is 2 mafia saying my case is shit. But I am still annoyed by it.
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On August 31 2023 06:17 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2023 06:02 Koshi wrote:On August 31 2023 06:01 DarthPunk wrote:On August 31 2023 05:56 Koshi wrote:Anyway. I am thick skinned so it's ok. Part of the game. But please answer. As normal as possible. On August 31 2023 05:54 Koshi wrote:On August 31 2023 05:08 DarthPunk wrote:On August 31 2023 04:04 Koshi wrote:2) Math, Chez and VE. We are currently on page 4 of DP his filter and except for shitfighting with Vivax and me he hasn't done shit. So after rayn, marv, iamp and Koshi talk about VE and vote VE. DP comes in the thread and starts with saying he doesn't want to lynch VE but wants to lynch math. You are all free to look yourself and look for posts of DP looking into Math but you won't find any except these: On August 28 2023 08:43 DarthPunk wrote:Catch up post: On August 28 2023 03:27 mathenalin wrote:
Am i a snowflake if i vote VE or is his vote on me so unbelievably bad that its warranted
This post is sus as fuck. Why is he checking the temperature of the thread before he votes? Like if you are town you know this motherfucker is wrong about you and trying to kill you. The self awareness of how he is being perceived in the thread strikes me. On August 28 2023 03:36 mathenalin wrote:On August 28 2023 03:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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I find it quite weird you treat this as anti-town behavior for some reasons:
1) Every vote particularly during D1 is "pressure", since noone has a good clue who is mafia (especially seems to be true this game since nobody really seems to have a even remotely good case they trust.
2) You said yourself, before voting for Chezinu, at twice, that pressure on Chezinu is good and should be kept up.
Why did you say that while simultaneously claiming if you announce pressure it loses power over the target? Well i tried to pretend I had a reason Hate this, town doesn't do this. On August 28 2023 08:45 DarthPunk wrote:
Don't want to Lynch VE.
I do want to lynch MATHENALIN.
I could compromise onto Chezinu but I don't have a good grasp on his alignment so it would be tossing a coin and for future thread health.
##Vote: Mathenalin the next post after voting math we get this: On August 28 2023 08:47 DarthPunk wrote:
I'll lynch chezinu over VE, but can you read my posts about math, read his filter and get back to me. I will come back to this but first all mentions about math in DP filter page 4-5-6-7: On August 28 2023 09:08 DarthPunk wrote:On August 28 2023 09:08 Vivax wrote:On August 28 2023 09:01 iamperfection wrote:
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your the only demon i see right now Amen Banish the creature. Idk why DP is so un-okay with this option maybe we‘re disposing of one of his horned minions I literally said I was ok with it, I just think Math is scum. On August 28 2023 09:39 DarthPunk wrote:
Meh there is something there with Math, but I can't exactly find what it is.. I BUT ALSO DP WANTS YOU TO DOUBLE CHECK WHAT I WRITE. GO LOOK INTO 80 POSTS OF DP FOR MENTIONS OF MATH. You will only find the above and this: spoiler cuz holy fuck: + Show Spoiler +On August 28 2023 09:31 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 09:27 die_meatbaby wrote:On August 28 2023 09:26 DarthPunk wrote:On August 28 2023 09:25 TankTopTiger wrote:
Can I ask why a town Chez would say that?
vanilla town Chez: Oh no I'm dying
vanilla town Chez: Better make sure the blue role dies too What the fuck are you on about? same thoughts... Who would you lynch out of VE, Math and Chezinu? Cause we need to consolidate onto a wagon right now. On August 28 2023 09:47 DarthPunk wrote:
are you around TTT did you finish filter diving Math? On August 28 2023 10:25 DarthPunk wrote:
TTT hows that Mathenalin filter dive coming along On August 28 2023 10:26 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 10:25 TankTopTiger wrote:
If you're standing by everything you've said in this exchange, I don't see a way for a green DP to keep that all in his head at once. Still won't vote for you D1, as I think that only takes votes off Chez and does not put any meaningful votes on you.
But yeah I'm pretty sure you're mafia if you're claiming to actually believe this stuff. Why am i mafia for thinking that? Why won't you post about mathenalin after saying you would filter dive him hours ago. On August 28 2023 10:57 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 10:57 Chezinu wrote:
That or Vivax is having a mental breakdown Do you still think Mathenalin is red? On August 28 2023 11:18 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 11:16 iamperfection wrote:On August 28 2023 10:40 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 28 2023 08:47 DarthPunk wrote:
I'll lynch chezinu over VE, but can you read my posts about math, read his filter and get back to me. *tentative fistbump*? what do you think of this DP. Mission accomplished that he isnt getting lynched then fucks off? I think he was at work, and not able to post that much. TBH he isn't looking great still, but I'd rather lynch math and TTT at this point. On August 28 2023 11:25 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 11:23 JacobStrangelove wrote:
I honestly don't get the math and ttt reads tbh. Can you spell out the cases in one place for clarity? Read my big post. but yeah I will summarise later. I am supposed to be working after all. Something to consider: 2 townies on the Math wagon, the lack of traction there is interesting to me. Ok. So in 80 posts aka 4 pages we only got 2 reasons: 1) math checked the temperature before voting 2) math said he pretended to have a reason. But if you read the conversation with rayn it is not that he caught pretending to have a reason but that he pressured with pretending to have a reason. So I am not sure what DP is saying that townies don't do that. DP most likely just read "pretend" and went with it. Now asks yourself. Is this good enough for DP to not follow marv; rayn, iamp; koshi into VE? Maybe yes because he townreads VE for reasons given in his big catch up post which I am too stupid for to understand but you can go and figure it out. But are there other targets that DP should have voted instead of math? On August 28 2023 08:43 DarthPunk wrote:
Catch up post:
I have some issues with TTT this game I think.
Generally I would expect Mafia!TTT to still have good points, to seem coherent and logical and to ask questions that are reasonable and pertinent.
The difference is that as Mafia they fail to lead to anything productive or execute a scumhunting agenda.
In endures 1 and 2 TTT was clearly pushing a scumhunting agenda, and in these past two starts I haven't seen that from him really at all.
I think the attempted trap on Vivax was something I saw him use on marv in Endures 1 so that is a potential town trait.
I also think he would have improved his play from feedback from last game, so yeah, not green on TTT which is not really something I enjoy. On August 28 2023 09:28 DarthPunk wrote:On August 28 2023 09:24 die_meatbaby wrote:
I suspect too many players at the moment and have only one townread (Koshi)
IMP has a strange way of playing/writing. Before I vote you I have to read through old games of yours.
Vivax behaves exactly the same as in the very first game when he was dr. Maybe I am colorblind, but maybe not
My grandma told me once i should never vote on somebody with a nicename Chez otherwise a ghost comes to haunt you in every game in PC.
#vote TTT
To be honest, I can't describe it.
It's just missing. It miss the ambition you have to find the wolf. It miss the discussions when you focus on a player and put him under pressure. There is just so much missing.
It feels like a different person is playing in this game. I can't help but see you on the Red team. This is basically how I feel about TTT at this point as well On August 28 2023 10:02 DarthPunk wrote:On August 28 2023 09:59 TankTopTiger wrote:Mmmm you first. @DP
Name one game in the last five years in which I was confirmed town at this point in the game? You're being a bozo. I literally talked to you about this between games, that you think I'm somehow confirmed town D1, but I wasn't present D1 in endurance I, and in endurance II I basically sheeped you D1. Where does this "strong independent confirmed town D1" TTT myth come from? I've made it pretty clear I don't like D1 because it's a low information environment and so most of this is just a dance with no real conviction. I hate this so much from you. I'm pretty sure the last time I describe D1 to you it was that "it's cancer". You just don't make sense to me. There isn't a coherent worldview there when I know I've talked to you about this stuff. I don't care about what other people think about you day one or what you think of your self, I know that, to me, I generally don't want to lynch you and shield you from others even because I can see reasons that you are town. The past two games (this and the aborted version) I haven't seen that. There is no reason to protect you, or even not lynch you at this point. On August 28 2023 10:51 DarthPunk wrote:On August 28 2023 10:45 TankTopTiger wrote:On August 28 2023 10:40 die_meatbaby wrote:
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This is what I meant. This is what makes you red. Town TTT would not do that. Town TTT would ignore this und would try to get everybody to go the his original suspect and don´t just suspect somebody who was suspecting him. This is definitely not a Town game you make here. Thats not TTT what i am used do DMB, everyone is already on my lynch. There is no need to refocus town because unless something changes, I get my way. Regarding the OMGUS, yes it is in a way, but it's not just that. Town DP doesn't do this. DP respects my late game after Endures I, he made up my aptitude in early game. Town DP does not think that "D1 is when you first post". Town DP does not give up town equity on a scaler over them not having proven themselves early in the game. You'll note I'm not filtering DP rn. I'm not making a huge war. I'm in a back and forth because I want to get him to take hard stances that he can't take back later if/when I actually go after him. You don;t really understand what I said about you do you. I am not saying you play well day 1 or at the start of games. I am saying that usually, within 24-48 hours of you being in a game, there are reasons for me to feel you could be town. usually because you are posting logical and insightful questions or arguments that resonate with my view of the game. This is why we are usually on the same page. But this game is absent of that, and your posts, while logical are lacking insight, and do not resonate with me. I agree to others you look weak when you start posting, but not to me which is what matters to me. Also I am not giving up town equity here even if you are town somehow. So not sure what you are actually saying here again. See this is another example of what you are saying is logically right, but meaningfully absent. This is bottom page 6. So I ask again. Should DP be on mathelin or TTT? He ended up on math over TTT over VE. Why? Mafia!DP knew VE and Chez would flip town and was preparing misslynch number 3. That's why. Or I thought chez and ve were town cause I am good at the game. But it is very nice being called mafia because of tmi when I am town. Especially from you lmao 🤣 Why especially from me? Also. The biggest point is you not voting TTT over Math. Because of the ego and rage fest you pulled in endures one. I dont understand You flamed me like crazy in endures one for lynching vivax over mz (who was also town)
Yes because you were town and you betrayed us. I still dont understand how that makes it extra special mafia!koshi calls you out for TMI in this game.
And again. My biggest point was that you voted Math over TTT.
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Well played all!
Hope we gave you a decent game.
Though to be mafia.
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