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Copcake DMB VisceraEyes TTT come play | ||
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On August 01 2023 12:14 iamperfection wrote: i would if i could because of this dude Do it. | ||
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On August 22 2023 00:50 Alakaslam wrote: I would, but I am not in the right mental or scheduling state to do so. (Ex?) Wife running me around in circles. https://youtube.com/shorts/imj8Ju_UNaA?feature=share Hope you are doing ok slam. That video hit me right in the feels. | ||
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On August 23 2023 10:15 Grackaroni wrote: Sweet full game. Aussies are the greatest. I've sent out a link for the game's discord server to everyone either through discord or via TL pm if you haven't played in one of my games.) Post in thread if you'd rather start the end of this week or avoid weekend start and start Monday. (I want to give everyone at least a day or two to be able to see that the game is full/starting.) My recruitment (harassment) skills are unmatched. I'm down to start ASAP. | ||
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Let’s see how that goes. | ||
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On August 23 2023 18:13 TankTopTiger wrote: Hey Jakey welcome aboard! I'm prob gonna chill the first 24 given how that period has worked out for me the last couple games. I don't enjoy the d1 dance. I think you did well at the start of last game | ||
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On August 24 2023 03:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: oh dear 5am deadline is gonna be not good for me for the first two days... All good I’ll be there 😂 | ||
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On August 25 2023 12:30 Chezinu wrote: Guys Haralpsp!!!! They R trying to baits me!!!! What if they are my mafia comrades or my townie friends!??! Only those who read their roles would ever know! Do you know if you are mafia or town chez? you wouldn't lie about this would you? | ||
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On August 25 2023 12:48 Chezinu wrote: Darth.... sounds like Dark... What are you trying to pull? Are you leading a dance? Are you going to spin right round? The fact is, you would know your alignment regardless of if you had read your role pm or not. so this post: On August 25 2023 12:30 Chezinu wrote: Guys Haralpsp!!!! They R trying to baits me!!!! What if they are my mafia comrades or my townie friends!??! Only those who read their roles would ever know! Seemed disingenuous to me. | ||
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He would be added to the mafia discord if he is maf. | ||
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On August 25 2023 12:55 iamperfection wrote: what how would you even know that lol. I am assuming it's the same as the last two games I played on here | ||
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So I'm going to drop it. Particularly cause I think it already made perfection town slip. lol. | ||
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On August 25 2023 13:06 iamperfection wrote: how did he town slip? I don't really want to talk about it for obvious reasons. | ||
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On August 25 2023 13:12 iamperfection wrote: let me guess. You think he made the same slip as me because he said he didnt know about the mafia discord but he said that a couple min after me so i dont think it counts. That's a fair point, but I also don't think Chez would lie about that in that way. | ||
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On August 25 2023 13:13 iamperfection wrote: since were throwing out town reads im gonna say punk is town with his morally questionable speculation lul darthpunk and being morally questionable playing mafia, name a more iconic duo. | ||
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On August 25 2023 15:28 mathenalin wrote: Hi everyone, looking forward to playing with you. I had the same impression as VisceraEyes, two guys very excited to get the game going and it's good to see. iamperfection's reason for giving DarthPunk an early town read was insufficient. The discord discussion is in bad spirit but mafia or town could bring it up. @Chezinu have you read your role? Hi!! Have you played forum mafia before mat? | ||
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On August 25 2023 15:36 mathenalin wrote: I have, been lurking games here on and off for a while Nice! just want to know what kind of expectations I should have. Have you got any other thoughts about the game so far? | ||
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On August 25 2023 15:52 mathenalin wrote: I don't want to spam the thread too much and I don't have anything noteworthy to add at the moment. I understand chezinu typically plays like this This is the most important time to spam the thread IMO because something needs to happen to get the game going. But fair enough. | ||
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On August 25 2023 16:02 JacobStrangelove wrote: Also this says nothing in the end must be scum fluff. Jesus christ, so self aware of potential signs of guilt. It would bother me if this wasn't exactly what I would expect you to do. :D | ||
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I mean the part where he didn’t know how the scum thread in discord worked | ||
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On August 25 2023 16:59 VisceraEyes wrote: Anyway so DP is town for trying to cheat to get reads, and that's fucked up because I'm cheating to get reads now too. FUN TIMES EVERYONE!! Ok ok I’ll stop. | ||
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On August 25 2023 17:14 VisceraEyes wrote: DP since we're cheating, how excited was TTT for this game? Is it suspicious he's not here? I saw he preexcused D1 activity, but what's your read on it? It’s expected and would be awkward if he was mafia. I’m confident I can read ttt given enough time. Jacob strange love is a chezinu level enigma to me though even tho I’ve known him for 13 years. | ||
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On August 25 2023 19:08 marvellosity wrote: Maybe a certain Aussie is trying too hard to match previous games’ opening styles? Hahahaha ok. Which openings do you mean?? | ||
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Do you see what koshi and Rayn see?? | ||
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I don't know. Why do you think I was asking, I just think that talking in code to agree on something that is not verifiable is bad. I was hoping you had seen it. | ||
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So that's good. I don't think I agree that VE's posts were alignment indicative (although I liked them) but I think I might just be bad at reading him through the trolling. I like Jacob more than TTT at this point. | ||
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On August 25 2023 20:54 Koshi wrote: Strongly strongly? Or just reminds me more somwhat somewhere? Endures 2 is really the lowest bar of bars. This post was made to help you. Not me. Appreciate the casual condescension. It is correlated to a trait that marv showed as town and was absent in his scum play rather than as a result of his scum play being weak in endures 2. I also think marv in Endures 2 lost some of his sharpness that comes across more naturally as town, basically he was more amiable and less critical. Something that is reversed so far. This post was made to help you not me. | ||
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On August 25 2023 21:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why do you feel the need to post this, especially when marv and rayn say they think VE is town and you might just be bad at reading him? I mean, have you seen me play, i generally just post whatever im thinking at the time :D | ||
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On August 25 2023 20:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: I agree with this more than DP's town read on marv. We all make mistakes. | ||
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On August 25 2023 20:53 JacobStrangelove wrote: Everybody loves me. Yeah same just a little anxious to scum read him after last time when we were both town and spiral scum read each other into the grave. But slightly would expect more effort even a random post from town him. Ipee guy also a bit sus the more town dp looks but I could just be bandwagoning on my soft town reads opinions tbh. There are meta reasons for me to think that post was not from a town TTT but I don't want to get into it until he does more. | ||
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On August 25 2023 21:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: I know but i mean you generally question stuff a shitton (more than it's needed - at times), here you just disagree, no question for me or marv why we do feel like that. What if me/marv or both are mafia and we're just giving out a bullshit read, would you care to look into that? You know I would. But I also wouldn't do it day one based on that read. Which you also know. Look at my last two games, I held on to shit about marv for multiple cycles until I can drop the bomb. I guess I don't really know what you are trying to get at aside from: you posted something more that is necessary. Which brings me back to: I pretty much always do that. | ||
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On August 25 2023 21:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: Could we drop this and something useful instead? Hard agree. | ||
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On August 25 2023 21:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: So DP you're not interested in why i think VE is town either? I can get the marv part. I presumed it was because of tone/how freely he was posting. | ||
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On August 25 2023 21:31 die_meatbaby wrote: Hey good morning guys. I didn't read the thread yet. Still nice to see you all again. Im expecting big things from you. | ||
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On August 25 2023 21:50 Koshi wrote: So we lynch iamp and Vivax Not at all. | ||
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On August 25 2023 21:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: from the players who have posted i would say i'd do this exact thing but nowhere near sure of it tbh. DO you seriously want to lynch vivax??!?! | ||
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On August 25 2023 22:02 mathenalin wrote: This may be too early for a read but I don't see a world where both mafia marv and mafia rayn read VE as town early on and then sort of celebrate over it. (although mostly rayn congratulating marv). I suppose it's possible that rayn just said "you know who you SHOULD town read" and then agreed with whatever marv says but feels unlikely. Both strong players so I think if there is a mafia in there it is only one and then its either two strong town players reading VE as town, which makes it more likely he is town. Or there is one mafia in the two of them and they are reading VE as town with the knowledge that he is. Summary then that VE is likely town. then rayn or marv both town or max one mafia. hate this post for a bunch of reasons (no offense) | ||
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On August 25 2023 21:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: "Town rayn isn't chill when he enters a game." thgis is complete trash. Why would he say that as mafia? Read the obs thread from the last game, he was HYPER aware of you, the way you react to things, planning how he will play so as to not arouse your suspicion, he pocketed you and used you as a shield. Why does he make that post as mafia this game? That came across as very townie to me, because he must know it might piss you off, and he doesn't care. | ||
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So you are saying its WIFOM? | ||
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On August 25 2023 22:12 iamperfection wrote: how are you giving marv a town read do you respect his game that little. I spent the last two games, deep in his filter, lynching town marv and catching scum marv. So in terms of his recent play, what i explained to koshi stood out to me. | ||
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On August 25 2023 22:34 mathenalin wrote: I didn't play in those games so I don't know exactly how it went, but what concerns me with this is that you have a large amount of data/experience from the past two games and now you are extrapolating a read based on a very small sample size in this game which, to me, doesn't seem to lean either way, at least not from an attitude perspective. I now have to decide if you sort of see yourself as the "marv whisperer" trying to make an early god read. Or are you trying to pocket marv which is more suspicious. You are right, I am using my years of experience playing mafia as a lens through which i processed the last two games, as well as playing many games with marv in the past to make a read. why don;t you tell me what your reads are? cause right now you are repeating what is happening in the thread, and its sus. | ||
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On August 25 2023 22:41 LightningStrike wrote: Nope not that I remember but I think it's more town indicated of him though. why? | ||
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but this doesn't make sense. Whats the objective? that you town read him for sussing you? | ||
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1.) Says a lot to not say much at all 2.) On August 25 2023 22:02 mathenalin wrote: This may be too early for a read Why hedge when multiple people are making reads in the thread. 3.) essentially replicates a x and x can;t be mafia together heuristic that was getting Jacob town reads earlier in the thread. 4.) sheeps a read, and town reads strong players who have that read without bringing anything new to the table. Basically, reads like a post to make a post, and the main aim that I can see is to ingratiate himself with some of the stronger players. so yeah, could be a new player thing, could be a scum thing. But either way I don't like it. | ||
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On August 25 2023 22:45 mathenalin wrote: Sorry didn't mean to upset you. As far as my reads go I don't have anything new since my last post where I said VE was likely town and that one or more of marv and rayn are town. I have leanings either way but as a new player I don't have your confidence in analysing players. I'm not upset. | ||
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Cause you always try and get me lynched at some point I guess. | ||
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Do you think LS is scum marv? because I do. (sorry was speaking Australian previously) | ||
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On August 25 2023 23:12 marvellosity wrote: Hedging this early is super natural regardless. I mean ultimately you may be right (hedging  ) - but I don’t think it’s because of this. And it’s a different reason to townread VE than previously mentioned. I hadn’t said anything about my reason Do you think that is a good reason to read him town? | ||
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On August 25 2023 23:17 marvellosity wrote: Not really. Why? You are the LS whisperer apparently. I didn't like how he used IRL to exit the thread as soon as he was under pressure. Reminds me of the last time he was mafia. On August 25 2023 22:54 LightningStrike wrote: By the way anyone else felt like the ChatGPT thing from Jacob was forced? Also, this: very disconnected from the thread, no one thinks this so why is he asking this? the position on Jacob generally is slight town read. It's like a halfhearted effort to change the direction of the discourse from himself, to like the most out their topic before he nopes out of the thread. | ||
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On August 25 2023 22:12 LightningStrike wrote: Morning guys. Marv, Rayn, and Koshi so far looks town from what I had read. Marv because his attitude seems a bit different from last game. Koshi due to his attempt to get himself lynched when he doesn't do that as mafia. Rayn because he actually trying to move things forward and trying to actually solve the game. Does LS legit just town read the same people over and over regardless of alignment? | ||
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On August 26 2023 08:04 JacobStrangelove wrote: Yee there's a lot of I'm smart and secretive are you also smart say yes and even if you don't know we're both smart and secretive together. Yeah I fucking hate that shit. It’s unhealthy for town and not inclusive to players who aren’t aware of the hyper developed metagame | ||
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On August 26 2023 08:18 marvellosity wrote: Can I just say I was not doing that at any point Fair play, it’s not aimed at anyone in particular, just a general sentiment. | ||
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On August 26 2023 08:23 iamperfection wrote: why do you think there is some quality in meats posting i am missing? i dont see any I think you should give her some time, because she will end up being really obv town if its like the last two games, I think she is a slow starter tho. | ||
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Lightning strike has taken a really long nap at this juncture. I don't think he is meeting the engagement test that you outlined earlier. He is also not meeting the sniff test, ##vote: LS | ||
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On August 26 2023 08:26 marvellosity wrote: You mean game 1 where I spent all game championing her and game 2 where she got lynched d1? Like I said, a slow starter :D | ||
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Nah sadly you have landed on lynchbait IMO. | ||
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I love that I preempted this. | ||
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On August 25 2023 13:13 iamperfection wrote: since were throwing out town reads im gonna say punk is town with his morally questionable speculation lul Next post: On August 25 2023 22:12 iamperfection wrote: how are you giving marv a town read do you respect his game that little. Wtf is this? I am rescinding any town cred perfection got from the town!slip at the start by the way. His filter reads like an old school mafia players filter, with lots of empty comments and then a sudden strong push on lynch bait without a real foundation. The push in itself is good (in that he is doing something), but the incongruency between the strength of the push and the quality of the 'case' if you can really call it that is way off. | ||
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On August 26 2023 08:35 iamperfection wrote: And you think meat hasnt done stuff???? OK lay it out for me then. | ||
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On August 26 2023 08:36 marvellosity wrote: You both know you’re not gonna convince each other or me, right? :p I am pretty open minded if there is new information. I think you are the same. Don't know about perfection, been ages since I played with them. | ||
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Which part? | ||
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On August 26 2023 08:42 iamperfection wrote: for town reading marv duh. he is one of the best mafia players ever. I think you show your age with this post. So it was ok to town read me even earlier, but town reading marv is a no go? | ||
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On August 26 2023 08:41 iamperfection wrote: no real posts wishy washy opinions posting for the sake of posting to feign activity all mafia traits She has really only posted ONCE! How is she posting to feign activity? you know that is a mafia trait because it is an attempt to hide your low contribution levels? She is clearly not hiding that. She has 4 posts total including pregame and only one with any content. If you were saying you were lynching her for inactivity, that's one thing, but for feigning activity that's factually nonsense. | ||
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On August 26 2023 08:51 iamperfection wrote: arnt you saying you agree with me then???? just posts for no reason or purpose????? She isn't posting brah, there is no attempt to pretend, and the one post she has made her opinions on the game were pretty clear. Im saying the strength of your read on her and the stated reasons for it are unnatural. | ||
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I also want to know this. | ||
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On August 26 2023 08:53 LightningStrike wrote: Unless you trying to pocket me this game (which I doubt it) and combined with how you been playing I feel pretty good about my read on you. If you are mafia I feel like unlike the last game you would try to lynch me this time around given everyone were talking about lynching me. So you think that marv would try and lynch you if he was mafia? Why are you surprised that he defended you then? | ||
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2.) doesn't understand the wagon on TTT and yourself and would like people to explain themselves 3.) doesn't have any town reads. 4.) she thinks vivax is suspicions so far, but she also knows there are IRL reasons that could excuse it. | ||
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On August 26 2023 08:58 DarthPunk wrote: 1.) she thinks VE is looking town but has a healthy level of mistrust around the read. 2.) doesn't understand the wagon on TTT and yourself and would like people to explain themselves 3.) doesn't have any town reads. 4.) she thinks vivax is suspicions so far, but she also knows there are IRL reasons that could excuse it. | ||
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and not do so when he is town and you are town | ||
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On August 26 2023 09:02 marvellosity wrote: Okay. Tbh I don’t remember that well either but I do feel like I tend to be very wary of lynching you. Maybe I just got older. Don’t mind this whole series of posts, which may baffle some readers, but hey ho I don't think it's right to drop it, I think you really picked up something important there. | ||
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On August 26 2023 09:04 iamperfection wrote: marv is scum  | ||
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On August 26 2023 09:09 TankTopTiger wrote: I'll make you guys a deal. You can lynch me today, I'll even vote for myself. But then you have to lynch Marv. And then if he's red you have to lynch DP. Yeah we are not doing that lol | ||
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On August 26 2023 09:10 iamperfection wrote: i guarantee 100% meat is scum Fucking how?!?! | ||
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I do think perfection and TTT look scummy as fuck right now :D | ||
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On August 26 2023 09:11 TankTopTiger wrote: lol I thought Marv and DP were supposed to be good what the hell Dude, take two steps back, because whatever is so obvious to you is not as obvious as you think and if y0ou are town it may end badly for all parties invovled. Im open to whatever it is you have to share, but right now you calling us bad is not it. | ||
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On August 26 2023 09:15 marvellosity wrote: Yeah easy TTT catch. IM pretty sure he did it because he knew he was done. | ||
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On August 26 2023 09:16 marvellosity wrote: Was gonna be a piss easy game tbh. True. | ||
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On August 26 2023 09:17 marvellosity wrote: Maybe listen to me about LS, guys? I mean, I was aiming to lynch perfection, I know this is after the fact but i was building towards there. | ||
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