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Vayoletta
Profile Joined May 2023
50 Posts
June 07 2023 05:20 GMT
#28
I’m like totally /in
Vayoletta
Profile Joined May 2023
50 Posts
June 09 2023 12:23 GMT
#305
Heyooo party people! I’m spending my entire day at an amusement park today and have like no time to play, so y’all need to just deal with it.
Vayoletta
Profile Joined May 2023
50 Posts
June 10 2023 10:35 GMT
#649
Allright, I need to like speedread the the whole discussion not about me here.

Who wants to get free townpoints by offering me a summary of relevant events?
Vayoletta
Profile Joined May 2023
50 Posts
June 10 2023 19:25 GMT
#776
I have had like the busiest weekend ever sitting pretty and drinkin vegan soy cafe latte at the edge of the town. Now it’s my time to walk into the centre with my fancy state of the art stiletto heels and proclaim Alakaslam vibes town to me. I put on my curved sunglasses as I look at the bright monitor once again, hoping to get beyond page 7 before the day ends.
Vayoletta
Profile Joined May 2023
50 Posts
June 10 2023 19:36 GMT
#778
On June 09 2023 15:16 Chezinu wrote:
The morning arrived, casting a soft glow upon the world as I stepped outside, my heart pounding with anticipation. Today was the day I would confront my fears head-on, the day I would open the letter waiting patiently in my mailbox and lower the red flag that had taunted me for so long.

Approaching the mailbox, I took a deep breath, mustering every ounce of courage within me. With trembling hands, I unlatched the lid, revealing the solitary envelope resting inside. It was as if the letter held a hidden power, a secret that could change everything.

Gingerly, I withdrew the envelope from its enclosure, feeling the weight of its contents in my grasp. The paper felt delicate, as if it held a multitude of untold stories within its fibers. The Master's rules echoed in my mind once more, reminding me not to reveal anything personal about the sender.

I carefully slit the envelope open, revealing the neatly folded letter contained within. Unfolding it, I held my breath, unsure of what I would find. The words that met my eyes were unexpected, a departure from the sterile nature of my usual deliveries.

"Dear Courier, I know the burden you carry. The fear, the isolation. But remember, there is strength in unity, even in the face of an oppressive regime. Do not let the Master's control extinguish your spirit. Take solace in the small acts of rebellion, for they hold the power to ignite change. Lower the red flag today, reclaim your freedom. Together, we can defy the chains that bind us."

As I read those words, a surge of hope coursed through my veins. It was as if the sender had understood my turmoil, my yearning for connection and liberation. Their message was a call to action, a rallying cry that resonated deep within me.

Determined, I closed the letter and slipped it back into the envelope. The weight of the Master's gaze and the consequences of my actions paled in comparison to the flicker of rebellion that had ignited within me. Today, I would defy the Master's control, even if only in a small, symbolic act.

With renewed purpose, I reached up and gently lowered the red flag, its descent a defiance against the oppressive grip of the Master. The symbolic act sent a surge of exhilaration through me, a sense of liberation that I hadn't felt in so long.

The raised red flag had represented fear and subservience, but now, as it stood lowered, it became a beacon of hope, a symbol of resilience and the possibility of change. I had taken a step towards reclaiming my identity, towards forging a path of my own in the face of an oppressive regime.

As I closed the mailbox, a newfound sense of empowerment filled me. The journey ahead would not be easy, but I had found allies, kindred spirits in the shadows. Together, we would continue to resist, to sow the seeds of rebellion, and to fight for a future where personal connections and individuality were celebrated.

With each step I took on my mail courier route that day, I carried with me the words of the sender. They fueled my determination, reminding me that I was not alone in my struggles. I would continue to deliver the unsealed letters, but now, I would also carry within me the invisible threads that connected us, the whispers of unity and defiance against the Master's oppressive rule.


Like, what should I drink alongside my latte for this to have a meaning? What spice am I missing?
Vayoletta
Profile Joined May 2023
50 Posts
June 10 2023 19:39 GMT
#779
On June 09 2023 15:30 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 15:28 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:15 die_meatbaby wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So okay DP.

In my opinion you asking me who to lynch right now only really makes sense if you think i should have or could have a scum read based on something in the game. Did you think i should have a scumread at that point of the game and if yes, then who would that be and why? If you don't, why did you ask the question -- and furthermore why did you try to "force" me to answer when i clearly said i can't answer at that point?


Tbh this is a normal way to start the game. Of course we can´t know already who is who or if somebody make scum or not. Its imposible to manage it in the first 10 posts of the game and just 3-4 players are active right now. But how else should the game get started. It seems like a normal questing to just ignore chez and slam usually meme/troll posts. Somebody has to make a start here and this is just a normal way. Only second game here but seems normal to me (for now)


This.


Not always, mafia can pretend to “scumhunt” and engage conversation.


Cakeroni, who’s pretending to scumhunt here?
Vayoletta
Profile Joined May 2023
50 Posts
June 10 2023 21:17 GMT
#791
On June 11 2023 05:52 Hapahauli wrote:
Re: CopCake

Also not a fan of lynching her. She seemed to take genuine offense at being called mafia, which is an objectively townie trait. I take those emotions (especially sustained, over a long period of posting) in much higher regard than some weird sequence of posting early in the game.


Copcake is aggressive in a way that would come natural for town, but would have to be faked for wolf. Is Copcake a faker with a poker face or not?
Vayoletta
Profile Joined May 2023
50 Posts
June 11 2023 10:06 GMT
#1108
I was not aware that nights are talky this game, that's not how these games are usually played. Thought I'd use the quiet night to catch up with the game.

In my vision Copcake, Alakaslam and Hapahauli are all town. With Alakaslam that's more of the tone and the way he conveyed his thoughts early game that makes me read him town. Copcake's aggression makes me read that slot as town. and Hapahauli's request of clarification for activity rules here makes me think he has genuine concern on my slot, which would more naturally come from town.

Haven't read the thread for pr claims, but will need to check if there are any clears.

If Darthpunk is town, I would say there is a good chance that there is one mafia there. I don't think Copcake is mafia, so either Lightning or Vivax.

Copcake, what's the reason you voted DarthPunk?



Vayoletta
Profile Joined May 2023
50 Posts
June 11 2023 10:08 GMT
#1110
On June 09 2023 14:51 Chezinu wrote:
I was told that I appeared too townie last game, so I will work on it this game. I will try not to highly convince everyone that I am a certain role. I will try and be multiple roles in multiple realities.

I will deliver my post everyday to prevent the master from killing me. However, I must warn you. The master will kill whoever doesn't post everyday.

If everyone does post, someone still must go. For the master will make us choose who must go. Then they will be no more.


Oh, I forgot I had marked this post mentally.

What happened in the last game Chezinu refers here? I'm trying to make sense as to does this make sense from a towny perspective or not.
Vayoletta
Profile Joined May 2023
50 Posts
June 11 2023 10:10 GMT
#1111
On June 11 2023 19:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
LS claimed to be a tracker.


LS is Lightning? Explains why his wagon disappeared. I think this means there is a good chance in there being one between DarthPunk and Vivax, unless someone can sell me a good case on CopcCake.
Vayoletta
Profile Joined May 2023
50 Posts
June 11 2023 10:16 GMT
#1115
On June 11 2023 19:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2023 19:06 Vayoletta wrote:
[...]
If Darthpunk is town, I would say there is a good chance that there is one mafia there. I don't think Copcake is mafia, so either Lightning or Vivax.

Copcake, what's the reason you voted DarthPunk?


I am assuming you are talking about DarthPunk voters here?
If you think Cake is town why are you questioning her instead of the non-town reads for their votes?


I want to know what's the case on DP, and I trust Cake's answer more than Vivax's. Now that I know that LS is town though, would have been better to ask him for that case.
Vayoletta
Profile Joined May 2023
50 Posts
June 11 2023 10:21 GMT
#1117
On June 09 2023 18:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 18:45 TankTopTiger wrote:
I've read the thread twice now. I waited until I was reading the second time to actually post anything.

I mean you quoted:
post 1
post 2
post 3
post 4

Why did you post questions on them in order
post 2
post 1
post 3
post 4


Now this is a slight read, but I think rayn would be more likely to push on small things like this as town instead of a wolf. To my understanding rayn likes to hunt wolves without really caring about how it affects how he's viewed in the game as town. Anyone with meta on rayn can give input on whether he'd push things like this as wolf or not.
Vayoletta
Profile Joined May 2023
50 Posts
June 11 2023 10:28 GMT
#1118
On June 09 2023 21:42 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 21:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:36 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:30 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:05 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:03 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:01 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
[quote]

But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.


Yeah that's fine, its really clear why that (bolded) was done. If rayn wanted to post reads with caveats that would have been cool.

I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game.

Now your turn.


But you can’t force someone to give reads that early with few posts, it seems like you are trying to act - pro town - and maybe create reads out of it. Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else?

I also disagree with LS, like how is that crafty? I would reconsider if I was you because you lynched marv because LS pretty much mentioned him a lot and if marv was town then LS is a “genious”, “mafia prodigy”, how cant that entrance be a town LS? How is it crafty?

Besides that, I asked what was different. I think Slam is town for example because he - feels - easy going, not attached to anything, not stressfull.



Are you reading the thread?

Are you reading my posts when you are asking me questions?

You are not operating in good faith.

I’ve already explained why I asked Rayn

Why do you not know this??


- someone else -

Or only rayn’s opinion matters? Because it looked like you wanted his reads so you can formulate yours based on that, just how you jumped on me.

Is this hard to understand?


You do t understand clearly.

I asked Rayn this question because he asked me the same at the start of last game. That’s explained itt so I don’t know what the fuck you are on about here lol.

But I do know you aren’t operating in good faith cause this is all available info.


So, how it is operating in good faith?, not questioning you perhaps?


Because the questions you are asking are answered by reading the thread, because I have clearly explained and responded to those questions.

tbh she was asking you why you think Slam is town, and mostly that, and i had the same concern at the time, so i don't think that's a good basis for a scumread.


Im not scum reading her for that, I'm scum reading her because she wont explain her town read on you that was super early and super strong and when she did explain it doesn;t even make sense.

The whole premise of her arguments from the beginning relies on you being town, so why was it so hard for her to explain a good reason for you to be town? Especially when in the obs thread a meta of her being suspicious of you exists.

Further, all the questions she asked had already been answered in the thread, so she was either asking those questions having not read my answers, or she was operating in bad faith because she was mafia.,

Those two factors are enough at this juncture.

##Vote: Copcake


Hmm. This does seem a bit like a level 1 read where DP does not take into account why on earth Cake would waltz into the game with a strong townread on rayn, especially when, according to rayn's earlier post, Cake always misreads rayn's tonwgames as wolfgames when Cake observes rayn's games.

I'm not sold on this vote, and I wonder if would DP genuinely make a read like this as town.
Vayoletta
Profile Joined May 2023
50 Posts
June 11 2023 10:33 GMT
#1121
On June 09 2023 23:02 TankTopTiger wrote:
@Rayn & CC
I don't think it's plausible that you are both red so I'm going to trust you both when you say it's reasonable for CC to trust Rayn in this game. I'm trusting you two to know each other better than I know you. CC isn't completely off the hook with me, she's still probably most red, but not deep red like she would have been if Rayn answered differently.

I'm gonna go to bed, I expect tomorrow we can resolve these claims about lying etc. with some slower posting if need be.



I think TTT has had the best reaction on the DP/Cake/rayn mess. Like, I know some wolves like to act all reasonable to look townie in situations like this, but it's more likely town than wolf.
Vayoletta
Profile Joined May 2023
50 Posts
June 11 2023 10:36 GMT
#1122
On June 11 2023 19:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Of course i would, it would be similar "outage in logic" that i am looking for as town.

Why do you think there must be mafia in DP wagon? The counter-wagon has flipped town, in case DP is town as well what does it matter where mafia votes?


I think DP's early game was not that strong and that he would have been easy to push. I also think parking a vote there could have been good strategically for wolves as usually the voters of the flipped town wagon are scrutinized the most.

I'm nowhere near page 47 yet, but will hopefully make it there during the night. I'm hosting a quest until monday, so that's when I get to play serious and read the rest of the thread if I can't reach it till the end.
Vayoletta
Profile Joined May 2023
50 Posts
June 11 2023 20:53 GMT
#1156
On June 12 2023 05:04 Vivax wrote:
@ Vayo, DP

Are you two familiar with each other?


Yeah, rayn already responded for this, but I confirm I'm not familiar with DP.
Vayoletta
Profile Joined May 2023
50 Posts
June 11 2023 20:57 GMT
#1157
On June 12 2023 02:30 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2023 19:06 Vayoletta wrote:
I was not aware that nights are talky this game, that's not how these games are usually played. Thought I'd use the quiet night to catch up with the game.

In my vision Copcake, Alakaslam and Hapahauli are all town. With Alakaslam that's more of the tone and the way he conveyed his thoughts early game that makes me read him town. Copcake's aggression makes me read that slot as town. and Hapahauli's request of clarification for activity rules here makes me think he has genuine concern on my slot, which would more naturally come from town.

Haven't read the thread for pr claims, but will need to check if there are any clears.

If Darthpunk is town, I would say there is a good chance that there is one mafia there. I don't think Copcake is mafia, so either Lightning or Vivax.

Copcake, what's the reason you voted DarthPunk?





Sorry I found this when I was filtering you.

At the time I found very oportunistic how he jumped on me, only after rayn made a comment about “why lunch have something to do with this? Darth already answered you.” Which he didn’t. I was waiting to see how he was reading and why slam was town.

But Darth just “oooffeeed” the comment and said I was mafia bla bla bla “good catch ryan”. I told him he didn’t answer me and went full spirall after that. His mmmmm playstyle, is quite agressive, he call people “bad players”, “only baby can read” and didn’t consider other people’s opinion.

Nevertheless, his end of the day would be way toooooo risky for mafia, like insane because he could be lynched, like the best he could do as mafia was to sit in the shadows and wait for baby to die but he tried to get the lynch an inactive. (You)

He needs to recalibrate and be a little bit more humble, it seems he only cares what ryan has to say, ttt and big personalities.


I'm slowly getting into the latter part of the game, I've read like halfway today and will finish the rest tomorrow.

Considering that Baby flipped town, I don't think DP would have had any urgency to flip me on D1. I think he'd have identified me as an easy push for another day where it matters more.

Like, I need to read through the latter half of the game, but this point, if true, makes DP an unlikely wolf.
Vayoletta
Profile Joined May 2023
50 Posts
June 12 2023 18:36 GMT
#1377
Im now free from my long term guest and can play properly.

My PoE right now is Vivax, Chez, Marvellosity and Mz.

I believe LS’s claim. I read Copcake and Slam town. I trust rayn’s and CopCake’s point on DP to not suspect him now, but I am not quite sold on rayn being town. I hope I will find him as I go through the material.

I hope I did not forget anyone.
Vayoletta
Profile Joined May 2023
50 Posts
June 12 2023 18:56 GMT
#1380
On June 13 2023 03:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2023 03:36 Vayoletta wrote:
Im now free from my long term guest and can play properly.

My PoE right now is Vivax, Chez, Marvellosity and Mz.

I believe LS’s claim. I read Copcake and Slam town. I trust rayn’s and CopCake’s point on DP to not suspect him now, but I am not quite sold on rayn being town. I hope I will find him as I go through the material.

I hope I did not forget anyone.

I would love to hear your complete thoughts on TTT.


Looks like I did indeed miss someone.

TTT felt townish to me in his approach to the DP/rayn/CopCake thing and at first I thought his approach was towny. However, I kinda recall he was not very confrontational avout it and didn’t take strong stances about it, which could be mafia tmi.

I quess I would put him in the PoE, even though his gameplay does resonate with me.

I still have not finished reading D1, so I might find something relevant.
Vayoletta
Profile Joined May 2023
50 Posts
June 13 2023 18:55 GMT
#1622
On June 14 2023 01:55 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Two Vote Count

Vayoletta (3): marvellosity, Vivax, Meapak_Ziphh
CopCake (2): DarthPunk, Chezinu, TankTopTiger
TankTopTiger (1): rayneplikoneet
Chezinu (1): DarthPunk
marvellosity (0): Vivax

Not Voting (4): Alakaslam, Vayoletta, CopCake, LightningStrike

With 3 votes, Vayoletta is currently set to be lynched!

The deadline is Wednesday, Jun 14 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in



I'm soon caught up, D2 as well, been reading for a while now.

The only players currently on my wagon are players I put in PoE, so I do kinda feel good about that. Why none of them is a proper wagon now is the biggest question in my mind.

What does pique my interest is that Hapahauli did push MZ and TTT as the top candidates for D1 elims. I don't think my wagon is pure, but I think TTT as wolf would avoid bundling up with his wolfbuddies voting me here.

I also do think that rayn's point about how TTT treats Copcake is a valid point here.

##Vote TankTopTiger
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