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TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 06 2023 23:39 GMT
#20
/in

Thanks Grack!!
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 09 2023 09:21 GMT
#247
On June 09 2023 16:47 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 16:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:39 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.

I think he just answered you in the post you quoted, no?


I literally went to have lunch

I dont understand what having lunch has anything with this. You asked him if he had gathered some information, which he just posted in the post you quoted.


Oooff

this is good actually.


On June 09 2023 16:48 DarthPunk wrote:
I'm mad I didn't spot that.


Hi all.

DP, why is this good actually?
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 09 2023 09:23 GMT
#248
On June 09 2023 16:58 CopCake wrote:
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On June 09 2023 16:54 die_meatbaby wrote:
How can you already read someone as town or opposite? There are not even half of the player's here. I am waiting till other players write something as well not just Dp, Marv Rayn, CC and the two Troll Master


There is a thing people call “meta” that is a pattern how a participant plays when he/she is mafia or town.

I think from experience, for example, that slam tends to be more town when he is easy going. But ofc you should not consider this as a “complete” read because actions speak louder and those reads can change.



On June 09 2023 16:59 marvellosity wrote:
What are you talking about, Copcake?


Marv what's the ambiguity here?
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 09 2023 09:29 GMT
#249
On June 09 2023 17:04 CopCake wrote:
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On June 09 2023 17:02 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:58 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:54 die_meatbaby wrote:
How can you already read someone as town or opposite? There are not even half of the player's here. I am waiting till other players write something as well not just Dp, Marv Rayn, CC and the two Troll Master


There is a thing people call “meta” that is a pattern how a participant plays when he/she is mafia or town.

I think from experience, for example, that slam tends to be more town when he is easy going. But ofc you should not consider this as a “complete” read because actions speak louder and those reads can change.


He was easy going Last game and you read him town in obs for it and he flipped maf so….


No, early game i called him maf and even grack was like “interesting you read him like that” so dont try to manipulate the story.


Err... Just gonna pipe in here. Copcake you switched on and off slam many times during the course of obs QT. You did cite him being relaxed a lot iirc, but your read was not nearly as simple as thinking him scum D1 then green reading him for being relaxed.

So both you and DP way oversimplified it.
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 09 2023 09:33 GMT
#250
On June 09 2023 17:12 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 17:05 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:03 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:01 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
[quote]

On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.


Yeah that's fine, its really clear why that (bolded) was done. If rayn wanted to post reads with caveats that would have been cool.

I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game.

Now your turn.


But you can’t force someone to give reads that early with few posts, it seems like you are trying to act - pro town - and maybe create reads out of it. Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else?

I also disagree with LS, like how is that crafty? I would reconsider if I was you because you lynched marv because LS pretty much mentioned him a lot and if marv was town then LS is a “genious”, “mafia prodigy”, how cant that entrance be a town LS? How is it crafty?

Besides that, I asked what was different. I think Slam is town for example because he - feels - easy going, not attached to anything, not stressfull.



Are you reading the thread?

Are you reading my posts when you are asking me questions?

You are not operating in good faith.

I’ve already explained why I asked Rayn

Why do you not know this??


- someone else -

Or only rayn’s opinion matters? Because it looked like you wanted his reads so you can formulate yours based on that, just how you jumped on me.

Is this hard to understand?


You do t understand clearly.

I asked Rayn this question because he asked me the same at the start of last game. That’s explained itt so I don’t know what the fuck you are on about here lol.

But I do know you aren’t operating in good faith cause this is all available info.


I understand, and I explained that the question I needed an answer for was why is slam town so I could know if your reads have some sort of substance or not.

Because to - me - it looks like you wanted rayn reads to base yours in the future with that. I need to actually check last game and see if rayn asked you right away when there was only like 3 persons and 7 posts to - force you - have reads. :D


Gonna chime in here too. DP is a very strong player and as mafia, does not need to blatantly steal reads. I'm not saying you're red for thinking that way, but I do suggest you ammend your read on that interaction because it just doesn't make sense with DP being as strong a player as he is.
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 09 2023 09:43 GMT
#252
@Rayn
How tf on Earth did you expect DP to want to lynch Marv 10 posts into Endures I from:
Good morning. Lynches are gonna be interesting in the middle of the night for us Europeans D:


You actually expected DP to turn around without priming and call for Marv's head? Did you mention that in-thread or anything later or is this the first time you've said this aloud?
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 09 2023 09:45 GMT
#253
I've read the thread twice now. I waited until I was reading the second time to actually post anything.
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 09 2023 09:59 GMT
#256
I'm organising along a singular dimension using tabs for replies. I couldn't tell you the reason I went for one tab over another. I wasn't thinking much on it at the time, since the tabs were a to-do list, and I intended on posting the lot of them.

TBH I'm not too sure what you're talking about because from my monitor it's saying they're in order, but I'll take your word for it?
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 09 2023 10:06 GMT
#260
It's weird that you don't understand Rayn.

But it's weird if you're town or if you're Mafia. I'm gonna go ahead and dismiss this as you two getting snagged on each other. I don't really respect your stated play re: marv+dp last game, and I don't really understand what's going on with you and being sus of getting the ball rolling, but I don't see why you'd tunnel on this as town.
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 09 2023 10:17 GMT
#264
Cake seems a bit lost, which I expect from the way they posted basically every possible alignment to every player in obs QT last game.

***goting through filter quickly to refresh self

I'm confused by:

On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.


I think this reflect poor reading comprehension:
On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.


Yeah that's fine, its really clear why that (bolded) was done. If rayn wanted to post reads with caveats that would have been cool.

I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game.

Now your turn.


But you can’t force someone to give reads that early with few posts, it seems like you are trying to act - pro town - and maybe create reads out of it. Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else?

I also disagree with LS, like how is that crafty? I would reconsider if I was you because you lynched marv because LS pretty much mentioned him a lot and if marv was town then LS is a “genious”, “mafia prodigy”, how cant that entrance be a town LS? How is it crafty?

Besides that, I asked what was different. I think Slam is town for example because he - feels - easy going, not attached to anything, not stressfull.





Wait do you two know each other irl?
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 09 2023 10:21 GMT
#266
You two knowing each other would explain a lot. The alignment read on you too.
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 09 2023 10:22 GMT
#267
Right yep okay (congratulations!)

That piece of information basically resolves all my concerns regarding copcake at this point.
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 09 2023 10:28 GMT
#269
Re: Stated play etc.
The thing you stated about testing DP on his read on Marv. It feels overly specific for the context. You're basing your interpretation of DP's line of questioning on the stuff going through your mind last game.

But DP didn't know what you were thinking, DP was probably assuming that if you can do it to him, then he can do it to you, and if you don't let him do it to you then this sort of conversation happens and people have real content maybe.
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 09 2023 10:30 GMT
#272
All her actions that are questionable to me revolve around you, so your relationship is an explanation shared among all anomalies.

e.g. she reads you as town for no reason => except she's your fiance and so your relationship plays an enormous part in how she interprets your actions and her trust in you, probably more than anything visible to me in game.
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 09 2023 10:31 GMT
#273
How much has CC played?
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 09 2023 10:33 GMT
#275
Lol she did in fact do that to you last game, you're one of the players she never eased up on.
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 09 2023 10:39 GMT
#277
LS is scummy. Vivax is a little scummy. Slam seems a bit different to last game where he was scum. DMB seems town. Chez is doing anything they can to not play the game which is annoying but whatever.

D1 caveat for all. I think we're probably similar in how we view the value of early reads.
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 09 2023 10:39 GMT
#278
How many have you played together?
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 09 2023 10:43 GMT
#280
That does make her reading you as town 2x weird.

If you get repeatedly burned, you don't speak well of the fire.
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 09 2023 10:49 GMT
#283
He's been present but not posting much of substance.

He made a call on LS's post#1 that felt TMI.

This is the only post I even vaguely like of his:
On June 09 2023 16:59 Vivax wrote:
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On June 09 2023 14:22 Alakaslam wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:21 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:20 Alakaslam wrote:
Dude I take a shower and that is all you ppl said by then?

Anyway DMB says senseless shit D1 if last game from mafia perspective is anything to go by, but is crackin' the town wisdom whip by D2 so do not dismiss

Chezinu so different, Chezinu so hidden... I get NK fast, you know who it is


Why is LS town slam?

Ok look at last game
.list post from hell


Look at this game

.relief finally I am town

LS always looks fake but there is a difference


If he‘s town then cause he copypastad something. You don‘t really believe that the relief is true if it‘s copypasta do you ?

Does mafia go put something in the thread that they can be poked about instantly ? Wifom-y but I‘d wager not.

Bit of an oversimplified way to discern his alignment, in my opinion *glare*

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