I really really don't like either of the choices for lynch right now. I am completely aware i can be wrong on LS, i just find it extremely mafiaish to group two people where "one is mafia but i can't tell which" and then do nothing for the rest of the day. Because if the two people are town, LS has just set him up for D1 AND D2 pass with a very shitty reasoning (as pretty much noone seems to think he is mafia). Also in case i am right and both DP and Cake are town he is just basically +1 mafia if he is town, since he is only accusing townies and refuses to do anything else.

raynpelikoneet

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June 10 2023 21:43 GMT

#802

Other than DP and Cake, my townreads are basically Slam, Hapa, and Vivax.

Others i can't either tell about but don't wanna lynch either (marv, possibly Vayoletta), or there are thing i definitely do not like about.

Vivax was blue last game and this game he is definitely not blue, and doesn't really look scummy at all, yet Chezinu placed his vote on Vivax when that was already clear. There's simply no reason to believe Chezinu would have "blue/red sickness", the vote was just incredibly out of place.

I have no clue what to think about MZ, i kind of agree with Hapa on the things on MZ, but i am HORRIBLE at figuring out MZ apparently.

DMB seems more self-aware than last game. Probably some of it comes with learning, sure, but like from a person whos cases were "these two people are 100000% mafia because they posted at the same time" and after that "these two people orchestrated the lynch D1" (when me and VE were pushing COMPLETELY different things all D1), i find it very hard to imagine town!DMB would actually be able to keep her head this straight in this game. Unless ofc, she is mafia and needs to actually just consider what to post to not get lynched aka what looks good, not what she actually thinks and how she's running the things in her head.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

June 10 2023 21:44 GMT

#804

Idk about TTT, probably would not want to lynch him here, i think he had VERY townie looking early game, at least for me it looks like that. I'd have to read his filter again.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

June 10 2023 21:48 GMT

#807

On June 11 2023 06:44 DarthPunk wrote:
Can you explain like I’m five why cop is town so I can move on? Cause the emotion argument is something I place very little emphasis on in general.

I don't see any problems with her train of thought especially in the argument with you. Sure probably not all the things are right but i believe she genuinely believes in what she says. Your case is mostly about her having a strong town read on me. I don't necessarily think it's impossible for her to have a town read on me, and the town read doesn't even need to be strong to question you on the things she did (which started from like the same thing i started questioning you).

Hell i would have done the same i did if you asked your question towards anyone but me, even if i didn't have a town read on them.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

June 10 2023 21:56 GMT

#814

I don't really get how TTT reads Cake mafia, because whenever he talks about his read with me it looks like he doesn't konw what to think of her alignment.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

June 10 2023 21:59 GMT

#818

On June 11 2023 06:58 Hapahauli wrote:

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I think he is pretty clear in this post:

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... I just have difficulty understanding how he reached that conclusion.

Yes that's what i talking about. He asks me if me and Cake know each other, i tell yes, he says "oh i see how she can have a town read on you". same thing happens at least three times.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

June 10 2023 21:59 GMT

#819

After all he still goes "well Cake defs mafia"

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

June 10 2023 22:07 GMT

#828

Truth to be told Cake can easily fake emotion and crazy posting as mafia, i jsut don't think this is it.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

June 10 2023 22:08 GMT

#830

On June 11 2023 07:05 DarthPunk wrote:

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I don’t think he could be engaged enough to seriously keep up as mafia.
Meta read whatever, trust me on this you have to give him time. He always always always is up for a lynch at the start of games, but just like last game he will be obvious later.

Last game he was obvious town from the start, the obs just didn't read the game at all D2.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

June 10 2023 22:11 GMT

#834

On June 11 2023 07:09 DarthPunk wrote:
But he will be obv maf later so why risk it. That’s my perspective pretty much.

Yes i am in the same boat with the information i have this far.

On June 11 2023 07:08 DarthPunk wrote:

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Eli5 please.

What?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

June 10 2023 22:13 GMT

#836

I just posted my read on her a while ago.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

June 10 2023 22:24 GMT

#848

On June 09 2023 16:54 die_meatbaby wrote:
How can you already read someone as town or opposite? There are not even half of the player's here. I am waiting till other players write something as well not just Dp, Marv Rayn, CC and the two Troll Master

I just really dont believe DMB writes this as town based on last game. Like fuck... no way.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

June 10 2023 22:32 GMT

#862

On June 11 2023 07:28 DarthPunk wrote:

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I'm also going to put it out there that MZ was incorrectly tunnelled last game. Got hit with a storm, get's vigged. Joins this game and then is basically tunneled again for similar reasons.

Makes sense to be snarky, if we are town reading for emotional congruence.

That's not what is happening, and Hapa was not even in the last game. Maybe youre doing something wrong if you get called mafia for the same shit over and over again as town. But again, that's not what Hapa is saying at least.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

June 10 2023 22:33 GMT

#867

If i understand correcty Hapa is saying that MZ basically took every post in LS filter and tried to make it look like everything LS has done is just straight out scummy, when that's never ever tha case no matter which player in question.