TL Endures Mafia II - Page 7

On June 11 2023 12:00 Alakaslam wrote:
Remember, lynch me last

WAIT VIVAX TO DMB

VE TO HAPA
NO SHUT UP LISTEN

VE TO HAPA

ME TO CHEZINU

WARCH IT HAOOEN

On June 12 2023 21:39 TankTopTiger wrote:
Look at filters for D1 between last game and this one:
Endurance Mafia CC reads on D1 (from obs QT):

*Rayn
*Koshi
*DMB
*Slam
*Slam
*Chez
*Chez
*DMB
*Slam
*DP
*DMB
*vivax
*MZ
*DP
*Koshi
*Slam

Endurance Mafia II CC reads on D1:

*Slam
*DP
*DP
*Rayn
*Rayn
*DP
*Rayn
*LS
*TTT

These are approx. cos I did it fast, but should be fairly reasonable birds eye view of her actions. There's no flipflopping this game, only blind read on Rayn early, singular shallow reads, and tunnels on people who suspect her.

On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:


But you can’t force someone to give reads that early with few posts, it seems like you are trying to act - pro town - and maybe create reads out of it. Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else?

I also disagree with LS, like how is that crafty? I would reconsider if I was you because you lynched marv because LS pretty much mentioned him a lot and if marv was town then LS is a “genious”, “mafia prodigy”, how cant that entrance be a town LS? How is it crafty?

Besides that, I asked what was different. I think Slam is town for example because he - feels - easy going, not attached to anything, not stressfull.

On June 10 2023 08:15 CopCake wrote:
I know that what LS said was pretty scummy but I feel like he is emotionally involved in this game compared to Endurance II (I went to check his filter) and I see a lot of excuses “sorry I slept, sorry my aunt this, sorry was busy”, but here he seems excited, even participating before and meeting and posting right after it finished.

On June 12 2023 21:50 DarthPunk wrote:


That fact you have only one scum read all game and haven’t actively suspected anyone who hasn’t suspected you make la you look worse to be clear

On June 12 2023 21:50 Vivax wrote:


I think DP came off as townier after review, but I wasn‘t going to proclaim that during night phase and his behaviour around Hapa flip seemed genuine unless he‘s pulling off HF style scumplay.

I take issue in this post that during D1 I had a similar perspective on TTT and DP having an associative component linking them and you keep perpetuating the same into this day expecting me to be an ally to you for the purposes of not getting lynched.

While I‘m over thinking that the associative behaviour made them mafia, I still think TTT in isolation can be.

To put it in simpler terms: Can you find arguments to scumread them in isolation? Because this looks like you‘re double omgusing without being clear about which one is the dishonest omgus and which one has a point.

At this point I think DP comes off as townier and TTT can be explained by being mafia who‘s hiding by attempting to be his shadow. Would explain the lack of suspicion on his part.

On June 12 2023 21:55 DarthPunk wrote:



Mostly just me though.

On June 12 2023 21:58 DarthPunk wrote:


You just said I looked worse. Now I’m locked town??

On June 12 2023 21:59 TankTopTiger wrote:


How is this not what I said? You OMGUSed the people who were on you. And you tunneled hard D1. Last game it took you until D3 to even close to tunnel. You then suspended the tunnel D4 and jumped back on D5, so not even a true tunnel until D5!!

On June 12 2023 22:02 DarthPunk wrote:


so which is it? I looked worse or I’m almost locked town?

On June 12 2023 21:59 TankTopTiger wrote:


How is this not what I said? You OMGUSed the people who were on you. And you tunneled hard D1. Last game it took you until D3 to even close to tunnel. You then suspended the tunnel D4 and jumped back on D5, so not even a true tunnel until D5!!

On June 12 2023 22:05 TankTopTiger wrote:
But you're not chaotic this game you're just parked on a tunnel (as much as Rayn will allow you). The only chaos is the pedantic muddy bs that occurs any time anyone questions you.

On June 12 2023 22:03 TankTopTiger wrote:
Wait actually ignore that bit about no tunnel D4. You were suspicious during that time.

BUT ALSO
You regretted calling Rayn red last game and so blind-read him town this game. You also tunneled both me and DP last game (we were your top reads, especially me) and yet you have no concern you might be wrong this game exept when Rayn tells you off.

On June 12 2023 22:15 TankTopTiger wrote:
If it's a lie take it up with Rayn. I don't read outside games I've played it's too much work. He said it, it made sense given he's been rolling scum a lot, and it was corroborated by obsQT. That's what the read is based on.

Even if it isn't true, you still just flat-out assumed he was town and that's really bad unless you've established it as your meta and you haven't.