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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 12:27 GMT
#308
On June 09 2023 21:21 Chezinu wrote:
Vivax, Slam, DMB

Slam kill TTT this time.

Is this the red squad mr. mailman?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 12:30 GMT
#311
On June 09 2023 21:28 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 21:21 Chezinu wrote:
Vivax, Slam, DMB

Slam kill TTT this time.


No TTT seems to be more townie than everybody else here.

I think he is saying Vivax, Slam, DMB is mafia and this time Slam needs to kill TTT so he wont lose.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 12:32 GMT
#313
On June 09 2023 21:31 CopCake wrote:
I think, and HOPE that clarifies the whole lunch and cake can't read what Dart posted btw.

But there is still the question why am i town?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 12:37 GMT
#318
On June 09 2023 21:35 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 17:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:21 DarthPunk wrote:
Cop cake what do you think Rayne alignment is?


Why was he mafia?

I think he is town


Why do you think he is town


Because he refused to answer you and questioned you why are you asking, I also think he is treating the "DP vs CC" really neutral

what would i do differently if i was mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 12:38 GMT
#320
On June 09 2023 21:36 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 21:30 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:05 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:03 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:01 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
[quote]

The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.


Yeah that's fine, its really clear why that (bolded) was done. If rayn wanted to post reads with caveats that would have been cool.

I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game.

Now your turn.


But you can’t force someone to give reads that early with few posts, it seems like you are trying to act - pro town - and maybe create reads out of it. Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else?

I also disagree with LS, like how is that crafty? I would reconsider if I was you because you lynched marv because LS pretty much mentioned him a lot and if marv was town then LS is a “genious”, “mafia prodigy”, how cant that entrance be a town LS? How is it crafty?

Besides that, I asked what was different. I think Slam is town for example because he - feels - easy going, not attached to anything, not stressfull.



Are you reading the thread?

Are you reading my posts when you are asking me questions?

You are not operating in good faith.

I’ve already explained why I asked Rayn

Why do you not know this??


- someone else -

Or only rayn’s opinion matters? Because it looked like you wanted his reads so you can formulate yours based on that, just how you jumped on me.

Is this hard to understand?


You do t understand clearly.

I asked Rayn this question because he asked me the same at the start of last game. That’s explained itt so I don’t know what the fuck you are on about here lol.

But I do know you aren’t operating in good faith cause this is all available info.


So, how it is operating in good faith?, not questioning you perhaps?


Because the questions you are asking are answered by reading the thread, because I have clearly explained and responded to those questions.

tbh she was asking you why you think Slam is town, and mostly that, and i had the same concern at the time, so i don't think that's a good basis for a scumread.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 12:44 GMT
#326
On June 09 2023 21:42 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 21:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:36 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:30 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:05 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:03 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:01 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
[quote]

But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.


Yeah that's fine, its really clear why that (bolded) was done. If rayn wanted to post reads with caveats that would have been cool.

I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game.

Now your turn.


But you can’t force someone to give reads that early with few posts, it seems like you are trying to act - pro town - and maybe create reads out of it. Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else?

I also disagree with LS, like how is that crafty? I would reconsider if I was you because you lynched marv because LS pretty much mentioned him a lot and if marv was town then LS is a “genious”, “mafia prodigy”, how cant that entrance be a town LS? How is it crafty?

Besides that, I asked what was different. I think Slam is town for example because he - feels - easy going, not attached to anything, not stressfull.



Are you reading the thread?

Are you reading my posts when you are asking me questions?

You are not operating in good faith.

I’ve already explained why I asked Rayn

Why do you not know this??


- someone else -

Or only rayn’s opinion matters? Because it looked like you wanted his reads so you can formulate yours based on that, just how you jumped on me.

Is this hard to understand?


You do t understand clearly.

I asked Rayn this question because he asked me the same at the start of last game. That’s explained itt so I don’t know what the fuck you are on about here lol.

But I do know you aren’t operating in good faith cause this is all available info.


So, how it is operating in good faith?, not questioning you perhaps?


Because the questions you are asking are answered by reading the thread, because I have clearly explained and responded to those questions.

tbh she was asking you why you think Slam is town, and mostly that, and i had the same concern at the time, so i don't think that's a good basis for a scumread.


Im not scum reading her for that, I'm scum reading her because she wont explain her town read on you that was super early and super strong and when she did explain it doesn;t even make sense.

The whole premise of her arguments from the beginning relies on you being town, so why was it so hard for her to explain a good reason for you to be town? Especially when in the obs thread a meta of her being suspicious of you exists.

Further, all the questions she asked had already been answered in the thread, so she was either asking those questions having not read my answers, or she was operating in bad faith because she was mafia.,

Those two factors are enough at this juncture.

##Vote: Copcake

yeah that's fine.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 12:45 GMT
#327
On June 09 2023 21:44 DarthPunk wrote:
role PMS

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 12:50 GMT
#335
He's saying he wont be posting that much..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 12:50 GMT
#336
On June 09 2023 21:49 TankTopTiger wrote:
Hey DP can we get clarification on your use of the term "good faith" so we're all on the same page because I've seen it used multiple ways and seen a lot of people get confused by its different uses.

Do you just mean honest?

@copcake
Re: a lie
This is verifiable. Which questions do you not think were answered in the thread?

I fucking like this guy!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 12:57 GMT
#344
On June 09 2023 21:49 TankTopTiger wrote:
@copcake
Re: a lie
This is verifiable. Which questions do you not think were answered in the thread?


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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 13:06 GMT
#349
DarthPunk wrote:

Further, all the questions she asked had already been answered in the thread, so she was either asking those questions having not read my answers, or she was operating in bad faith because she was mafia.,

Which questions had already been answered?
So far i can only find the question "Why is Slam town?" towards you from Cake.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 13:13 GMT
#352
On June 09 2023 22:10 CopCake wrote:
Btw if you have question towards me, go ahead.

why am i town?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 13:14 GMT
#354
On June 09 2023 21:53 LightningStrike wrote:
Not saying that TTT is telling truth per say in that post Rayn but it just his attitude how he plays the game is very much how he played last game so at least it's a start!

What are you referring to here LS?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 13:15 GMT
#355
On June 09 2023 22:14 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 21:35 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:21 DarthPunk wrote:
Cop cake what do you think Rayne alignment is?


Why was he mafia?

I think he is town


Why do you think he is town


Because he refused to answer you and questioned you why are you asking, I also think he is treating the "DP vs CC" really neutral


Almost 40 min ago

you really think that makes me town?
What would i do if i was mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 13:22 GMT
#361
On June 09 2023 22:16 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 22:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:14 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:35 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:21 DarthPunk wrote:
Cop cake what do you think Rayne alignment is?


Why was he mafia?

I think he is town


Why do you think he is town


Because he refused to answer you and questioned you why are you asking, I also think he is treating the "DP vs CC" really neutral


Almost 40 min ago

you really think that makes me town?
What would i do if i was mafia?


Trying to get me emotional and angry

have i done that before or where do you get that idea?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 13:22 GMT
#363
On June 09 2023 22:22 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 22:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:53 LightningStrike wrote:
Not saying that TTT is telling truth per say in that post Rayn but it just his attitude how he plays the game is very much how he played last game so at least it's a start!

What are you referring to here LS?

The Copcake stuff. I did reread it though maybe something there? Darth at least is the same alignment as me this time around I think though reading his filter.

He's asking a question, how can that be true or false?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 13:31 GMT
#371
On June 09 2023 22:28 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 22:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:22 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:53 LightningStrike wrote:
Not saying that TTT is telling truth per say in that post Rayn but it just his attitude how he plays the game is very much how he played last game so at least it's a start!

What are you referring to here LS?

The Copcake stuff. I did reread it though maybe something there? Darth at least is the same alignment as me this time around I think though reading his filter.

He's asking a question, how can that be true or false?

Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 21:49 TankTopTiger wrote:
Hey DP can we get clarification on your use of the term "good faith" so we're all on the same page because I've seen it used multiple ways and seen a lot of people get confused by its different uses.

Do you just mean honest?

@copcake
Re: a lie
This is verifiable.
Which questions do you not think were answered in the thread?

I was referring to this part of the post. He did ask a question there similar style how he was last game hence my comment about my read on him.

Yeah and DP comes out way worse looking than Cake from that.

RE; Cake, okay, i don't doubtyou would lie about that. Doesn't make you town but definitely doesn't make you mafia (rayn read).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 13:33 GMT
#376
On June 09 2023 21:42 DarthPunk wrote:
Further, all the questions she asked had already been answered in the thread, so she was either asking those questions having not read my answers, or she was operating in bad faith because she was mafia.,

DP lets get this straight;
Which are the questions she asked that were already answered in the thread, that make you think she is mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 13:34 GMT
#378
On June 09 2023 22:32 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 22:28 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:16 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:14 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:35 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:21 DarthPunk wrote:
Cop cake what do you think Rayne alignment is?


Why was he mafia?

I think he is town


Why do you think he is town


Because he refused to answer you and questioned you why are you asking, I also think he is treating the "DP vs CC" really neutral


Almost 40 min ago

you really think that makes me town?
What would i do if i was mafia?


Trying to get me emotional and angry

have i done that before or where do you get that idea?


Yes, you have.


He did get emotional and angry, Marv even pointed this out in the thread so how does this make any sense.


getting emotional and angry is different than getting someone else emotional and angry.
and i didn't even get e/a. Now i am starting to for this shit.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 13:42 GMT
#386
On June 09 2023 22:36 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 22:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:32 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:28 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:16 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:14 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:35 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:31 DarthPunk wrote:
[quote]

Why do you think he is town


Because he refused to answer you and questioned you why are you asking, I also think he is treating the "DP vs CC" really neutral


Almost 40 min ago

you really think that makes me town?
What would i do if i was mafia?


Trying to get me emotional and angry

have i done that before or where do you get that idea?


Yes, you have.


He did get emotional and angry, Marv even pointed this out in the thread so how does this make any sense.


getting emotional and angry is different than getting someone else emotional and angry.
and i didn't even get e/a. Now i am starting to for this shit.


Oh ok I misread never mind

wtf? how can you misread "getting someone angry" into "getting angry"?
Do you think i was getting angry or are you just sheeping marv's shit?
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