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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 06:09 GMT
#159
So okay DP.

In my opinion you asking me who to lynch right now only really makes sense if you think i should have or could have a scum read based on something in the game. Did you think i should have a scumread at that point of the game and if yes, then who would that be and why? If you don't, why did you ask the question -- and furthermore why did you try to "force" me to answer when i clearly said i can't answer at that point?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 07:06 GMT
#188
On June 09 2023 15:27 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 15:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So okay DP.

In my opinion you asking me who to lynch right now only really makes sense if you think i should have or could have a scum read based on something in the game. Did you think i should have a scumread at that point of the game and if yes, then who would that be and why? If you don't, why did you ask the question -- and furthermore why did you try to "force" me to answer when i clearly said i can't answer at that point?


1.) I did it to you because you did it to me

2.) I explained what the point was.

3.) see 2.

I did it because i expected something from you. Did you expect something from me? It hasn't been clear to me yet if you did or not. This:
On June 09 2023 14:29 DarthPunk wrote:
The point is that you generate information, and make people take positions to get the game going :D

..is bullcrap mostly, because if there is nothing to have an opinion on, then there is no point in forging an opinion on something.

If you think i should have had an opinion on something at that time, feel free to call me scum for it. If not, then you were just making a pointless question you even pressed onwards without any basis in the first place.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 07:09 GMT
#189
On June 09 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:
I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game.

This is a bad read. Not saying Slam is mafia but Slam would probably post exactly what he did as mafia if LS is town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 07:18 GMT
#191
On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.

I think he just answered you in the post you quoted, no?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 07:34 GMT
#194
On June 09 2023 16:31 marvellosity wrote:
rayn, you seem a bit angrier than last game, what gives?

Not really angry, just annoyed at DP a bit. Nothing too much.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 07:37 GMT
#195
On June 09 2023 16:32 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 16:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:
I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game.

This is a bad read. Not saying Slam is mafia but Slam would probably post exactly what he did as mafia if LS is town.


The read is based on his reactions with scepticism rather than dismissal as a bad read.

The first indicates a mindset of suspicion, natural for town and notably absent from his last game

The second which I noticed a lot reading his filter postgame was a lot of town reads and dismissing scum reads of others without promoting suspicions of his own.

Not a lot, but enough to make him look good to me.

Okay that explains it better.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 07:43 GMT
#198
On June 09 2023 16:39 CopCake wrote:
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On June 09 2023 16:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.

I think he just answered you in the post you quoted, no?


I literally went to have lunch

I dont understand what having lunch has anything with this. You asked him if he had gathered some information, which he just posted in the post you quoted.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 07:44 GMT
#201
To be more clear; You quoted a post where DP shared the information he has gathered, and asked if he has gathered any information.

What gives?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 08:04 GMT
#216
On June 09 2023 17:02 DarthPunk wrote:
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On June 09 2023 16:58 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:54 die_meatbaby wrote:
How can you already read someone as town or opposite? There are not even half of the player's here. I am waiting till other players write something as well not just Dp, Marv Rayn, CC and the two Troll Master


There is a thing people call “meta” that is a pattern how a participant plays when he/she is mafia or town.

I think from experience, for example, that slam tends to be more town when he is easy going. But ofc you should not consider this as a “complete” read because actions speak louder and those reads can change.


He was easy going Last game and you read him town in obs for it and he flipped maf so….

Except he actually wasn't easy going
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 08:05 GMT
#217
On June 09 2023 17:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On June 09 2023 17:02 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:58 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:54 die_meatbaby wrote:
How can you already read someone as town or opposite? There are not even half of the player's here. I am waiting till other players write something as well not just Dp, Marv Rayn, CC and the two Troll Master


There is a thing people call “meta” that is a pattern how a participant plays when he/she is mafia or town.

I think from experience, for example, that slam tends to be more town when he is easy going. But ofc you should not consider this as a “complete” read because actions speak louder and those reads can change.


He was easy going Last game and you read him town in obs for it and he flipped maf so….

Except he actually wasn't easy going

Should have figured him out from my first fucking post in the game lol
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 08:24 GMT
#223
On June 09 2023 17:11 die_meatbaby wrote:
Rayn gets little emotional here (maybe more than he should) and defense himself, where is nothing to defense, because it was just a question.

you got it wrong i was not defending i was attacking.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 08:29 GMT
#227
On June 09 2023 17:27 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 17:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:11 die_meatbaby wrote:
Rayn gets little emotional here (maybe more than he should) and defense himself, where is nothing to defense, because it was just a question.

you got it wrong i was not defending i was attacking.


If you insist 😂

Well i don't really care about you scumreading me, unless you are mafia with exactly marv and hapa and that's quite a low possiblity.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 08:30 GMT
#230
I'm just here to find mafia, i couldn't care less if someone calls me scum for not having a read when the game is like 10 posts lol. If i get lynched for it in the future still don't care.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 08:31 GMT
#231
On June 09 2023 17:30 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 17:26 Vivax wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:39 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.

I think he just answered you in the post you quoted, no?


I literally went to have lunch


What did you have for lunch ?


Cake!

Which cake?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 08:36 GMT
#236
On June 09 2023 17:34 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 17:33 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I'm just here to find mafia, i couldn't care less if someone calls me scum for not having a read when the game is like 10 posts lol. If i get lynched for it in the future still don't care.


Relax. I was just poking you for saying you were attacking instead of defending because it looked defensive, I’m not trying to lynch you right now.


Also that’s not what I thought was scummy…

Okay, which was?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 08:56 GMT
#243
On June 09 2023 17:37 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 17:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:34 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:33 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I'm just here to find mafia, i couldn't care less if someone calls me scum for not having a read when the game is like 10 posts lol. If i get lynched for it in the future still don't care.


Relax. I was just poking you for saying you were attacking instead of defending because it looked defensive, I’m not trying to lynch you right now.


Also that’s not what I thought was scummy…

Okay, which was?


The fact that you didn’t understand why I would make that post. I’ve said this twice already at least. But I like the cake push so I’m more neutral right now.

I don't really get it still... Like this is a bit exaggerated example of what happened:

rayn: would you say TTT is mafia or town rn?
DP: i can't lol
rayn: But if you MUST
DP: i still can't, dude that's stupid
rayn: no i was just trying to get the game going
DP: with a completely pointless question
rayn: i think youre scum because you dont understand what i was doing

Can you see why i have problems with this atm?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 09:13 GMT
#246
Do you have anything to go with so far marv?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 09:42 GMT
#251
TTT i have a question, your first two posts, how/why did you read the thread backwards, or what was going through your mind?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 09:48 GMT
#254
On June 09 2023 18:43 TankTopTiger wrote:
@Rayn
How tf on Earth did you expect DP to want to lynch Marv 10 posts into Endures I from:
Show nested quote +
Good morning. Lynches are gonna be interesting in the middle of the night for us Europeans D:


You actually expected DP to turn around without priming and call for Marv's head? Did you mention that in-thread or anything later or is this the first time you've said this aloud?

I myself thought last game (i didn't say it though at the time) that there was a possibility marv is mafia for his bland entrance to the game. I asked DP who would he lynch just to see if he felt the same (i didn't find anything else even mildly suspicious at the time).

I am not saying i expected DP to lynch marv, i am not saying it would make marv scum, i was expecting, that i would get a better (town)read on DP if he saw the same thing i did there (regardless of if i was right or wrong on that).

In this game i don't see DP's angle on why he is "doing this" to me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 09:49 GMT
#255
On June 09 2023 18:45 TankTopTiger wrote:
I've read the thread twice now. I waited until I was reading the second time to actually post anything.

I mean you quoted:
post 1
post 2
post 3
post 4

Why did you post questions on them in order
post 2
post 1
post 3
post 4
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