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die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
June 09 2023 06:36 GMT
#181
On June 09 2023 15:30 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 15:28 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:15 die_meatbaby wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So okay DP.

In my opinion you asking me who to lynch right now only really makes sense if you think i should have or could have a scum read based on something in the game. Did you think i should have a scumread at that point of the game and if yes, then who would that be and why? If you don't, why did you ask the question -- and furthermore why did you try to "force" me to answer when i clearly said i can't answer at that point?


Tbh this is a normal way to start the game. Of course we can´t know already who is who or if somebody make scum or not. Its imposible to manage it in the first 10 posts of the game and just 3-4 players are active right now. But how else should the game get started. It seems like a normal questing to just ignore chez and slam usually meme/troll posts. Somebody has to make a start here and this is just a normal way. Only second game here but seems normal to me (for now)


This.


Not always, mafia can pretend to “scumhunt” and engage conversation.


Yeah later in the game and I would get a little supect, but beeing Mafia and ask dirctly on the start in the first 15 posts. It´s to risky. Now way that is Mafia play right now. Als rayn just defend himself from Dp and trying to not get out of the game as early as in the last game
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 09 2023 06:36 GMT
#182
On June 09 2023 15:26 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 15:16 Chezinu wrote:
The morning arrived, casting a soft glow upon the world as I stepped outside, my heart pounding with anticipation. Today was the day I would confront my fears head-on, the day I would open the letter waiting patiently in my mailbox and lower the red flag that had taunted me for so long.

Approaching the mailbox, I took a deep breath, mustering every ounce of courage within me. With trembling hands, I unlatched the lid, revealing the solitary envelope resting inside. It was as if the letter held a hidden power, a secret that could change everything.

Gingerly, I withdrew the envelope from its enclosure, feeling the weight of its contents in my grasp. The paper felt delicate, as if it held a multitude of untold stories within its fibers. The Master's rules echoed in my mind once more, reminding me not to reveal anything personal about the sender.

I carefully slit the envelope open, revealing the neatly folded letter contained within. Unfolding it, I held my breath, unsure of what I would find. The words that met my eyes were unexpected, a departure from the sterile nature of my usual deliveries.

"Dear Courier, I know the burden you carry. The fear, the isolation. But remember, there is strength in unity, even in the face of an oppressive regime. Do not let the Master's control extinguish your spirit. Take solace in the small acts of rebellion, for they hold the power to ignite change. Lower the red flag today, reclaim your freedom. Together, we can defy the chains that bind us."

As I read those words, a surge of hope coursed through my veins. It was as if the sender had understood my turmoil, my yearning for connection and liberation. Their message was a call to action, a rallying cry that resonated deep within me.

Determined, I closed the letter and slipped it back into the envelope. The weight of the Master's gaze and the consequences of my actions paled in comparison to the flicker of rebellion that had ignited within me. Today, I would defy the Master's control, even if only in a small, symbolic act.

With renewed purpose, I reached up and gently lowered the red flag, its descent a defiance against the oppressive grip of the Master. The symbolic act sent a surge of exhilaration through me, a sense of liberation that I hadn't felt in so long.

The raised red flag had represented fear and subservience, but now, as it stood lowered, it became a beacon of hope, a symbol of resilience and the possibility of change. I had taken a step towards reclaiming my identity, towards forging a path of my own in the face of an oppressive regime.

As I closed the mailbox, a newfound sense of empowerment filled me. The journey ahead would not be easy, but I had found allies, kindred spirits in the shadows. Together, we would continue to resist, to sow the seeds of rebellion, and to fight for a future where personal connections and individuality were celebrated.

With each step I took on my mail courier route that day, I carried with me the words of the sender. They fueled my determination, reminding me that I was not alone in my struggles. I would continue to deliver the unsealed letters, but now, I would also carry within me the invisible threads that connected us, the whispers of unity and defiance against the Master's oppressive rule.


Artificial Intelligence (AI) chatbots have become increasingly popular in the gaming industry. These chatbots are designed to simulate human conversation and provide players with a more immersive experience. However, using AI chatbots in games is not a way to play cool.

Firstly, AI chatbots lack the emotional intelligence that humans possess. They cannot understand sarcasm or irony and often provide generic responses that do not add value to the gaming experience. This can lead to frustration and disappointment for players who expect more from their interactions with NPCs.

Secondly, relying on AI chatbots takes away from the social aspect of gaming. One of the most enjoyable aspects of playing games is interacting with other players and building relationships. Using AI chatbots instead of real people diminishes this experience and can lead to feelings of isolation.

Lastly, using AI chatbots in games perpetuates the idea that technology is superior to human interaction. It promotes a culture where people are encouraged to rely on machines instead of developing meaningful relationships with others.

In conclusion, while AI chatbots may seem like a cool addition to games, they ultimately detract from the overall experience by lacking emotional intelligence, diminishing social interaction, and promoting reliance on technology over human connection. Using AI should be a ban

If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 09 2023 06:38 GMT
#183
On June 09 2023 15:36 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 15:30 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:28 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:15 die_meatbaby wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So okay DP.

In my opinion you asking me who to lynch right now only really makes sense if you think i should have or could have a scum read based on something in the game. Did you think i should have a scumread at that point of the game and if yes, then who would that be and why? If you don't, why did you ask the question -- and furthermore why did you try to "force" me to answer when i clearly said i can't answer at that point?


Tbh this is a normal way to start the game. Of course we can´t know already who is who or if somebody make scum or not. Its imposible to manage it in the first 10 posts of the game and just 3-4 players are active right now. But how else should the game get started. It seems like a normal questing to just ignore chez and slam usually meme/troll posts. Somebody has to make a start here and this is just a normal way. Only second game here but seems normal to me (for now)


This.


Not always, mafia can pretend to “scumhunt” and engage conversation.


Yeah later in the game and I would get a little supect, but beeing Mafia and ask dirctly on the start in the first 15 posts. It´s to risky. Now way that is Mafia play right now. Als rayn just defend himself from Dp and trying to not get out of the game as early as in the last game


The problem is I know this, and so could do this as mafia as well.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 09 2023 06:40 GMT
#184
On June 09 2023 15:35 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 15:34 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


Why is slam town?



Why don't you answer my question, and then I will answer this one.


I'm not trying to avoid this btw,> its only fair that this conversation is two ways though right?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
June 09 2023 06:40 GMT
#185
On June 09 2023 15:33 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 15:26 die_meatbaby wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:16 Chezinu wrote:
The morning arrived, casting a soft glow upon the world as I stepped outside, my heart pounding with anticipation. Today was the day I would confront my fears head-on, the day I would open the letter waiting patiently in my mailbox and lower the red flag that had taunted me for so long.

Approaching the mailbox, I took a deep breath, mustering every ounce of courage within me. With trembling hands, I unlatched the lid, revealing the solitary envelope resting inside. It was as if the letter held a hidden power, a secret that could change everything.

Gingerly, I withdrew the envelope from its enclosure, feeling the weight of its contents in my grasp. The paper felt delicate, as if it held a multitude of untold stories within its fibers. The Master's rules echoed in my mind once more, reminding me not to reveal anything personal about the sender.

I carefully slit the envelope open, revealing the neatly folded letter contained within. Unfolding it, I held my breath, unsure of what I would find. The words that met my eyes were unexpected, a departure from the sterile nature of my usual deliveries.

"Dear Courier, I know the burden you carry. The fear, the isolation. But remember, there is strength in unity, even in the face of an oppressive regime. Do not let the Master's control extinguish your spirit. Take solace in the small acts of rebellion, for they hold the power to ignite change. Lower the red flag today, reclaim your freedom. Together, we can defy the chains that bind us."

As I read those words, a surge of hope coursed through my veins. It was as if the sender had understood my turmoil, my yearning for connection and liberation. Their message was a call to action, a rallying cry that resonated deep within me.

Determined, I closed the letter and slipped it back into the envelope. The weight of the Master's gaze and the consequences of my actions paled in comparison to the flicker of rebellion that had ignited within me. Today, I would defy the Master's control, even if only in a small, symbolic act.

With renewed purpose, I reached up and gently lowered the red flag, its descent a defiance against the oppressive grip of the Master. The symbolic act sent a surge of exhilaration through me, a sense of liberation that I hadn't felt in so long.

The raised red flag had represented fear and subservience, but now, as it stood lowered, it became a beacon of hope, a symbol of resilience and the possibility of change. I had taken a step towards reclaiming my identity, towards forging a path of my own in the face of an oppressive regime.

As I closed the mailbox, a newfound sense of empowerment filled me. The journey ahead would not be easy, but I had found allies, kindred spirits in the shadows. Together, we would continue to resist, to sow the seeds of rebellion, and to fight for a future where personal connections and individuality were celebrated.

With each step I took on my mail courier route that day, I carried with me the words of the sender. They fueled my determination, reminding me that I was not alone in my struggles. I would continue to deliver the unsealed letters, but now, I would also carry within me the invisible threads that connected us, the whispers of unity and defiance against the Master's oppressive rule.


Artificial Intelligence (AI) chatbots have become increasingly popular in the gaming industry. These chatbots are designed to simulate human conversation and provide players with a more immersive experience. However, using AI chatbots in games is not a way to play cool.

Firstly, AI chatbots lack the emotional intelligence that humans possess. They cannot understand sarcasm or irony and often provide generic responses that do not add value to the gaming experience. This can lead to frustration and disappointment for players who expect more from their interactions with NPCs.

Secondly, relying on AI chatbots takes away from the social aspect of gaming. One of the most enjoyable aspects of playing games is interacting with other players and building relationships. Using AI chatbots instead of real people diminishes this experience and can lead to feelings of isolation.

Lastly, using AI chatbots in games perpetuates the idea that technology is superior to human interaction. It promotes a culture where people are encouraged to rely on machines instead of developing meaningful relationships with others.

In conclusion, while AI chatbots may seem like a cool addition to games, they ultimately detract from the overall experience by lacking emotional intelligence, diminishing social interaction, and promoting reliance on technology over human connection. Using AI should be a ban


This is chatgpt for that “In conclusion” opening of the last paragraph lmao




Chez don´t like normal answers. You have to play his game to get informations or opinion. If I answer with chatgpt, he will hopefully stop this
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 06:41 GMT
#186
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 09 2023 06:46 GMT
#187
On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.


Yeah that's fine, its really clear why that (bolded) was done. If rayn wanted to post reads with caveats that would have been cool.

I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game.

Now your turn.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 07:06 GMT
#188
On June 09 2023 15:27 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 15:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So okay DP.

In my opinion you asking me who to lynch right now only really makes sense if you think i should have or could have a scum read based on something in the game. Did you think i should have a scumread at that point of the game and if yes, then who would that be and why? If you don't, why did you ask the question -- and furthermore why did you try to "force" me to answer when i clearly said i can't answer at that point?


1.) I did it to you because you did it to me

2.) I explained what the point was.

3.) see 2.

I did it because i expected something from you. Did you expect something from me? It hasn't been clear to me yet if you did or not. This:
On June 09 2023 14:29 DarthPunk wrote:
The point is that you generate information, and make people take positions to get the game going :D

..is bullcrap mostly, because if there is nothing to have an opinion on, then there is no point in forging an opinion on something.

If you think i should have had an opinion on something at that time, feel free to call me scum for it. If not, then you were just making a pointless question you even pressed onwards without any basis in the first place.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 07:09 GMT
#189
On June 09 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:
I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game.

This is a bad read. Not saying Slam is mafia but Slam would probably post exactly what he did as mafia if LS is town.
table for two on a tv tray
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
June 09 2023 07:16 GMT
#190
DarthPunk,

Did you get a letter from the Master?
lol, clueless in The Prism!
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 07:18 GMT
#191
On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.

I think he just answered you in the post you quoted, no?
table for two on a tv tray
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2023 07:31 GMT
#192
Morning all.

How has the meta evolved these days?

rayn, you seem a bit angrier than last game, what gives?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 09 2023 07:32 GMT
#193
On June 09 2023 16:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:
I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game.

This is a bad read. Not saying Slam is mafia but Slam would probably post exactly what he did as mafia if LS is town.


The read is based on his reactions with scepticism rather than dismissal as a bad read.

The first indicates a mindset of suspicion, natural for town and notably absent from his last game

The second which I noticed a lot reading his filter postgame was a lot of town reads and dismissing scum reads of others without promoting suspicions of his own.

Not a lot, but enough to make him look good to me.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 07:34 GMT
#194
On June 09 2023 16:31 marvellosity wrote:
rayn, you seem a bit angrier than last game, what gives?

Not really angry, just annoyed at DP a bit. Nothing too much.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 07:37 GMT
#195
On June 09 2023 16:32 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 16:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:
I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game.

This is a bad read. Not saying Slam is mafia but Slam would probably post exactly what he did as mafia if LS is town.


The read is based on his reactions with scepticism rather than dismissal as a bad read.

The first indicates a mindset of suspicion, natural for town and notably absent from his last game

The second which I noticed a lot reading his filter postgame was a lot of town reads and dismissing scum reads of others without promoting suspicions of his own.

Not a lot, but enough to make him look good to me.

Okay that explains it better.
table for two on a tv tray
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 07:38 GMT
#196
On June 09 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.


Yeah that's fine, its really clear why that (bolded) was done. If rayn wanted to post reads with caveats that would have been cool.

I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game.

Now your turn.


But you can’t force someone to give reads that early with few posts, it seems like you are trying to act - pro town - and maybe create reads out of it. Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else?

I also disagree with LS, like how is that crafty? I would reconsider if I was you because you lynched marv because LS pretty much mentioned him a lot and if marv was town then LS is a “genious”, “mafia prodigy”, how cant that entrance be a town LS? How is it crafty?

Besides that, I asked what was different. I think Slam is town for example because he - feels - easy going, not attached to anything, not stressfull.


CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 07:39 GMT
#197
On June 09 2023 16:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.

I think he just answered you in the post you quoted, no?


I literally went to have lunch
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 07:43 GMT
#198
On June 09 2023 16:39 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 16:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.

I think he just answered you in the post you quoted, no?


I literally went to have lunch

I dont understand what having lunch has anything with this. You asked him if he had gathered some information, which he just posted in the post you quoted.
table for two on a tv tray
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 09 2023 07:43 GMT
#199
On June 09 2023 16:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 15:27 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So okay DP.

In my opinion you asking me who to lynch right now only really makes sense if you think i should have or could have a scum read based on something in the game. Did you think i should have a scumread at that point of the game and if yes, then who would that be and why? If you don't, why did you ask the question -- and furthermore why did you try to "force" me to answer when i clearly said i can't answer at that point?


1.) I did it to you because you did it to me

2.) I explained what the point was.

3.) see 2.

I did it because i expected something from you. Did you expect something from me? It hasn't been clear to me yet if you did or not. This:
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On June 09 2023 14:29 DarthPunk wrote:
The point is that you generate information, and make people take positions to get the game going :D

..is bullcrap mostly, because if there is nothing to have an opinion on, then there is no point in forging an opinion on something.

If you think i should have had an opinion on something at that time, feel free to call me scum for it. If not, then you were just making a pointless question you even pressed onwards without any basis in the first place.


It's obvious why I was doing that, you are good enough to see that, so regardless if you think its good or not, the fact that you seemed to not understand why (when you definately should like DMB did) makes you look bad IMO.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
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Colombia1344 Posts
June 09 2023 07:44 GMT
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On June 09 2023 16:31 marvellosity wrote:
Morning all.

How has the meta evolved these days?

rayn, you seem a bit angrier than last game, what gives?


Maybe because he isn't town anymore...
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