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On May 24 2023 21:12 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 21:07 Koshi wrote:On May 24 2023 19:47 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 24 2023 19:44 DarthPunk wrote:
Of Marv? end of the World Party Mafia , murder on the Cruise Mafia. in the cruise one some people really seemd pissed of about marv. checked also a few other but just little bit. did you fucking fact check this DP??? Or are you just being lazy mafia? I won that game as mafia and marv was owned On October 15 2016 06:01 beentheredonethat wrote:Endgame
scott31337, Vanilla Town, has been lynched.
The mafia is victorious! Congratulations to a flawless victory to...
Oatsmaster (Roleblocker)
justanothertownie (Goon)
Koshi (Framer)
A big thank you to my co-hosts, first of all Rels, and thanks to everyone who played and commented in obs QT! 
Observer QTScum QTBoth QTs are worth a read! On October 15 2016 08:01 Skynx wrote:Koshi your scumplay is about to reach Superbia levels of out-thereness On October 15 2016 08:25 Half the Sky wrote:gg wp scum......koshi....you're tearing it up. Reading your filters, it'd been hard to make a case on either you or JAT the way it was going, only thing noticable is that you weren't driving lynches like you normally do as town. But IDK that argument alone would have ever gotten you lynched esp before the lynchbait. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/514644-dota-2-mafiaFYI, next game up for signups will close Monday or Tuesday if you are up for a themed game.
Other factors like Palmar and Marvellosity being afk for long times also nurtured the scum win but especially Koshi played a great game in my perception. Regarding justanothertownie: being the most active scum by far, I think he did a good job in driving a mislynch and averting lynch attempts that were aimed towards him. Still, having access to host QT, I think it would help jat to take a step back from the game and not be ad hom towards his teammates but that's just my impression.
Yeah I saw he didn't win, but you still going hard on him when you go through the posts their. Def. not lazy
Who was going hard on marv? Nobody.
On May 23 2023 23:09 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 23:02 Koshi wrote:On May 23 2023 22:59 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 23 2023 22:40 DarthPunk wrote:
I think Marv is town for the record. Me too. Most people here were directly at the beginning going hard on him, with almost no reason. Like you on Vivax and rayn? It seems like you guys stucking in an old game here where he maby scammed you hard und you still angry or scared of him. New game new Mafia...
THIS DOES NOT COMPUTE WITH READING CRUISE MAFIA.
SHE IS LYING
1) Shown potential TMI twice
2) Shiting up thread
3) Lying
4) trash reads that don't get updated when confronted
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On May 24 2023 21:14 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 21:07 Koshi wrote:On May 24 2023 19:47 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 24 2023 19:44 DarthPunk wrote:
Of Marv? end of the World Party Mafia , murder on the Cruise Mafia. in the cruise one some people really seemd pissed of about marv. checked also a few other but just little bit. did you fucking fact check this DP??? Or are you just being lazy mafia? I won that game as mafia and marv was owned On October 15 2016 06:01 beentheredonethat wrote:Endgame
scott31337, Vanilla Town, has been lynched.
The mafia is victorious! Congratulations to a flawless victory to...
Oatsmaster (Roleblocker)
justanothertownie (Goon)
Koshi (Framer)
A big thank you to my co-hosts, first of all Rels, and thanks to everyone who played and commented in obs QT!
Observer QTScum QTBoth QTs are worth a read! On October 15 2016 08:01 Skynx wrote:Koshi your scumplay is about to reach Superbia levels of out-thereness On October 15 2016 08:25 Half the Sky wrote:gg wp scum......koshi....you're tearing it up. Reading your filters, it'd been hard to make a case on either you or JAT the way it was going, only thing noticable is that you weren't driving lynches like you normally do as town. But IDK that argument alone would have ever gotten you lynched esp before the lynchbait. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/514644-dota-2-mafiaFYI, next game up for signups will close Monday or Tuesday if you are up for a themed game.
Other factors like Palmar and Marvellosity being afk for long times also nurtured the scum win but especially Koshi played a great game in my perception. Regarding justanothertownie: being the most active scum by far, I think he did a good job in driving a mislynch and averting lynch attempts that were aimed towards him. Still, having access to host QT, I think it would help jat to take a step back from the game and not be ad hom towards his teammates but that's just my impression.
I didn't read the game if that is what you were asking, I checked if it was a game that marv played in. I don't think not reading the game causes me to be lazy, or mafia FWIW. Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 23:09 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 23 2023 23:02 Koshi wrote:On May 23 2023 22:59 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 23 2023 22:40 DarthPunk wrote:
I think Marv is town for the record. Me too. Most people here were directly at the beginning going hard on him, with almost no reason. Like you on Vivax and rayn? It seems like you guys stucking in an old game here where he maby scammed you hard und you still angry or scared of him. New game new Mafia... This is the post right. You are saying that she said we were afraid of scum!marv and that this means that she implicated some extra information about alignments. But I also think she could be saying that we are holding a grudge from previous games as any alignment. It really isn't that clear to me.
He scammed us as town????????????????????????????????
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She types X.
She gets called out on X
She says I read cruise mafia and people were angry at marv and that is why I wrote X
When looking at it, it doesn't make any sense why she would write X after reading cruise mafia.
DP and marv: "seems legit, super town, wouldn't lynch, effort was shown"
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On May 24 2023 21:18 Vivax wrote:
That was a good post about marv though. Mafia marv while less motivated always was a super tough lynch.
I don‘t know how she would know that but in case of a genuine guess it was spot on.
Probably from seeing him get pressured for no reason, which is also why I thought mb scum = marv town. Not uncommon that mafia go against the grain when they see a townie under pressure for what they know is nothing.
Instead she says she made the read because she read cruise mafia in which marv was afk town and I won as mafia.
So how does it compute that I am angry at marv for scamming me ???
Lies lies lies lies lies lies lies
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On May 23 2023 21:16 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 21:14 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 20:49 Koshi wrote:
The meta question was horrible and was not going anywhere ever. I don’t want to clog up the thread too much getting into an argument about this. But anyway - I did not ask because I wanted it to go anywhere ever, but because meta of both people and sites is genuinely interesting and nothing else was happening. If you hadn’t played somewhere in a long time, wouldn’t you be curious how the play style has evolved? I understand that is potentially true. But that only pinged me. After that you played rather cautious and also there I understand that "not clogging up the thread" is a good excuse for a small filter, but fact is that you have: 1) an opening with a question that goes nowhere 2) a cautious playstyle 3) a small filter
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On May 24 2023 21:32 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 21:20 DarthPunk wrote:On May 24 2023 21:12 Koshi wrote:
marv and dp: "but she is new and she was on her meds and she tried "
blahblahblah
I am afk till after lynch. It's called empathy bro, I am trying to put myself in her shoes and to try and understand her perspective, I want to lynch scum, I am ok to be wrong, but I want to make sure that we get the lynches as correct as possible and that means I want to do some due diligence about the lynch. I recall so many occasions were people lynch the bad, "scum slipping" townie who is new. I think this town is able to determine if she is truly mafia or actually new/bad town so i'm keen to do that. That does not mean that I won't lynch her (say if MZ comes back and is super townie, or there is more information regarding DMB) but I am keeping the option that she is town open, because, if you read her posts with an open mind, she is doing enough to warrant this.
Anyway, sorry you are not going to be around, im off to bed but will be around for the 4 hours or so before the lynch. I agree with this… at no point Koshi did I indicate I suddenly thought MB was “super town”
Yes. I potentially overstated it a bit.
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On May 24 2023 23:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 20:56 Koshi wrote:
I was not town for her at that time.
The other person must be rayn or DP and they were not town for her at that time.
So she went to check some magical previous game in which she found the exact scenario in which mafia!marv owned us and we are still butthurt about it and she writes "new game guis don't be buuthurt" which fucking indicates she reads the attackers as town. Can someone explain to me what this is about?
On May 23 2023 23:09 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 23:02 Koshi wrote:On May 23 2023 22:59 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 23 2023 22:40 DarthPunk wrote:
I think Marv is town for the record. Me too. Most people here were directly at the beginning going hard on him, with almost no reason. Like you on Vivax and rayn? It seems like you guys stucking in an old game here where he maby scammed you hard und you still angry or scared of him. New game new Mafia...
The question is if what she wrote here is saying that marv scammed us means that marv was mafia and we were fooled.
On May 24 2023 19:47 die_meatbaby wrote:end of the World Party Mafia , murder on the Cruise Mafia. in the cruise one some people really seemd pissed of about marv. checked also a few other but just little bit.
Then there is this. Which may or may not tie to her previous comment but here she says that in cruise some people were pissed of at marv.
So I do 1+1 and tie both comments together and see the second comment as some sort of explanation why she made the first comment.
Then I checked the cruise game.
And the explanation doesn't hold water because marv wasn't even mafia that game and lost as inactive town.
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On May 24 2023 23:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 23:46 Koshi wrote:On May 24 2023 23:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 24 2023 20:56 Koshi wrote:
I was not town for her at that time.
The other person must be rayn or DP and they were not town for her at that time.
So she went to check some magical previous game in which she found the exact scenario in which mafia!marv owned us and we are still butthurt about it and she writes "new game guis don't be buuthurt" which fucking indicates she reads the attackers as town. Can someone explain to me what this is about? On May 23 2023 23:09 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 23 2023 23:02 Koshi wrote:On May 23 2023 22:59 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 23 2023 22:40 DarthPunk wrote:
I think Marv is town for the record. Me too. Most people here were directly at the beginning going hard on him, with almost no reason. Like you on Vivax and rayn? It seems like you guys stucking in an old game here where he maby scammed you hard und you still angry or scared of him. New game new Mafia... The question is if what she wrote here is saying that marv scammed us means that marv was mafia and we were fooled. On May 24 2023 19:47 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 24 2023 19:44 DarthPunk wrote:
Of Marv? end of the World Party Mafia , murder on the Cruise Mafia. in the cruise one some people really seemd pissed of about marv. checked also a few other but just little bit. Then there is this. Which may or may not tie to her previous comment but here she says that in cruise some people were pissed of at marv. So I do 1+1 and tie both comments together and see the second comment as some sort of explanation why she made the first comment. Then I checked the cruise game. And the explanation doesn't hold water because marv wasn't even mafia that game and lost as inactive town. Which game is World Party mafia because i can't find it in marv's database entry?
I checked the cruise game. I don't know.
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@MZ: you are right. VE had mebaby in bolded green and not you.
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imagine marv being mafia and going for the obvious mafia misslynch MZ and getting flak from town!MZ the entire game for it.
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On May 25 2023 03:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2023 03:20 marvellosity wrote:
On a more general, higher level about the whole game;
Town are fucked if both rayn and Koshi are mafia. Too much thread control. Fortunately I don’t think that is the case at all. If one is mafia (still don’t think so) then I’m sort of relying on the other to start calling them out.
So I take into account both of their opinion fairly strongly. So while I’m a lot less sure on MB than they are, if I’m going to follow 2 players it’s them, and that may be the right thing to do here.
Your aggression towards me is fairly bizarre though MZ. Assuming you are town, you must at least understand what I’m saying about you. You’re a good enough player to understand that a mafia playing ‘cleanly’ is very much a thing. So the fact you disregard that is weird. Why are you just randomly throwing suspicion on them, do you think they're not town? What purpose does this serve other than to do exactly what I accused you of doing yesterday which is muddle up the thread. My aggression from you stems from frustration because I know you good enough as a town player to have real reads at this point in the game and instead all you've got is a weak ass case against me which you're now defending with yet more WIFOM. I'm really left with no other conclusion that you're scum. Also your VE progression is terrible, going from "not suspicious" to "something's not right" without explaining what you think about it isn't right is just more of the constant baseless and vague accusations I've come to expect from you this game. I'm not really interested in reading any more posts by you unless they contain clear cases backed up with explanations to your thought process as to why you find someone scummy. I'm tired minimal effort.
This is a pretty townie post regardless of marv his alignment.
MZ is like dafuq dude I am town and I am all you got?
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On May 25 2023 03:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2023 03:31 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 25 2023 03:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 25 2023 03:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
And rayn I'm telling you that in my experience as town in that position figuring out the person's alignment feels important. You showing me why you think it's the opposite doesn't change my read of it, it just tells me you don't give a shit about what I'm saying. And I already knew that, can you see how counterproductive that is? I am not sure what youre saying here. I am nowhere saying people should not figure out mebaby/Vivax alignment, in fact i am trying to do the opposite. I just know people work in a certain way. Like if i started calling you mafia with shit reasons here and that is all i would do, you would do exactly what Vivax did with mebaby and stop posting other stuff, and almost completely focus on answering my posts only. It's not alignment indicative, especially towards being mafia. You can think she is town and vivax is mafia, and that's fine, hell you can even be right on that. but there is absolutely no way i am going to agree with you over myself at the moment. the only ways this situation gets "better" is if mebaby (who is already scummy) gets lynched, or she starts doing townie things, or vivax either scumtells or towntells real hard so there is no question about his alignment anymore. I'm referring specifically to Vivax and meat, not the rest of us. You may not know this but my ex Becca has played here. I don't know if anyone here played with her, she only played one or two games. But I played Video Mafia with her too and my read on Vivax/meat is specifically based on my meta knowledge of that dynamic. Okay, and my read on Vivax that he could and maybe even likely would act this way towards mebaby is based on my personal knowledge of dynamic with me and Cake, which has happened. Like i don't doubt mebaby as town would like to figure out Vivax soooo hard especially in her first game, but the evidence suggests imo, that she's not doing it in a townie way at all. I don't think she actually thinks Vivax is mafia, i think she just wants to lynch him.
Facts
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On May 25 2023 03:43 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2023 03:39 Koshi wrote:On May 25 2023 03:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 25 2023 03:20 marvellosity wrote:
On a more general, higher level about the whole game;
Town are fucked if both rayn and Koshi are mafia. Too much thread control. Fortunately I don’t think that is the case at all. If one is mafia (still don’t think so) then I’m sort of relying on the other to start calling them out.
So I take into account both of their opinion fairly strongly. So while I’m a lot less sure on MB than they are, if I’m going to follow 2 players it’s them, and that may be the right thing to do here.
Your aggression towards me is fairly bizarre though MZ. Assuming you are town, you must at least understand what I’m saying about you. You’re a good enough player to understand that a mafia playing ‘cleanly’ is very much a thing. So the fact you disregard that is weird. Why are you just randomly throwing suspicion on them, do you think they're not town? What purpose does this serve other than to do exactly what I accused you of doing yesterday which is muddle up the thread. My aggression from you stems from frustration because I know you good enough as a town player to have real reads at this point in the game and instead all you've got is a weak ass case against me which you're now defending with yet more WIFOM. I'm really left with no other conclusion that you're scum. Also your VE progression is terrible, going from "not suspicious" to "something's not right" without explaining what you think about it isn't right is just more of the constant baseless and vague accusations I've come to expect from you this game. I'm not really interested in reading any more posts by you unless they contain clear cases backed up with explanations to your thought process as to why you find someone scummy. I'm tired minimal effort. This is a pretty townie post regardless of marv his alignment. MZ is like dafuq dude I am town and I am all you got? Do you have anything else on MZ town-wise. I’m fairly keen not to spend my time tunnelling a townie for however long if that is indeed the case.
No sadly not. I don't think he is townie tbh. I just think he is such an obvious lynch that I don't know if he was mafia he would just open so badly we all gut read him mafia.
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He played in the previous game as well. Maybe I should compare the two games at some point. I know why I townread him in N1 there. But he was in my potential mafia list as well. Just the less likely pile.
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Must say MZ when MZ is in the thread he engages with his reads and is figuring things out. First with VE and then marv. And all those interactions were pretty ok. Legit stuff, pressuring the person he is talking to and try to figure them out.
He is pretty ok now that I think of it.
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On May 25 2023 04:04 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2023 03:59 Koshi wrote:
Must say MZ when MZ is in the thread he engages with his reads and is figuring things out. First with VE and then marv. And all those interactions were pretty ok. Legit stuff, pressuring the person he is talking to and try to figure them out.
He is pretty ok now that I think of it. All I will say is that it didn’t feel like he was trying to figure me out when we were interacting. Although I am biased
My brain was off when reading it and also skipped the VE interaction with him till later so again I can't be too sure.
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On May 25 2023 04:06 die_meatbaby wrote:
also can i get lynched 4 hours early so i am not getting out vodet by my bf for personal reasen on my birthday. I have already 3 votes so def. out or loss or what ever you guys mean with lynched after lynching you see just activ new townie who tried to play but never play with people who take things personal. This is the only thing i got out of this game so far.
And i am not thinking V is mafia because I want to lynch him. I know how he plays differnt games. He acts to differnent to be town
Happy birthday btw. I am somewhat sorry that I have to lynch you. Next game we play I will be able to place things better if you flip town here.
Just drop your reads and I will take them into consideration as a confirmed townie after the flip.
You can be sure Vivax will get a lot of heat next couple of days. So if you are sure. You can expect us to not just waste your effort from today.
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On May 25 2023 04:12 marvellosity wrote:
Meatbaby, can you vote someone not-Onegu?
Yeah like Chezinu. Like I said from the start. Perfect placeholder.
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If Vivax wants. I can lynch Chezinu.
I will blame Vivax then if she flips mafia rb later.
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