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On May 29 2023 10:15 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 10:11 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 10:05 LightningStrike wrote:
I mean it's to much as there was 2 people but still point stand it was still RNG'd just towards VIvax over MZ. Its not RNG though, he is asking who he should vote for? We all read that right? so then we are going to be racing to start a post with our preffered lynch, Which is what slam did, Is none of this changing your mind? If Slam and Chez flipped town right now who is the final mafia? To be fair he did say Even character be Vivax Odd be MZ in his very next post but regardless. If Slam and Chez flipped ( I had them nulls but Chez thing was a misread overall and had him town before hand but want to confirm his alignment for the rest of the town) town I will have to do an entire evaluation of the entire game from scratch which I had done before as town.
OK but can you re-evaluate now as a hypothetical?
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On May 29 2023 10:21 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 10:17 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 10:15 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 10:11 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 10:05 LightningStrike wrote:
I mean it's to much as there was 2 people but still point stand it was still RNG'd just towards VIvax over MZ. Its not RNG though, he is asking who he should vote for? We all read that right? so then we are going to be racing to start a post with our preffered lynch, Which is what slam did, Is none of this changing your mind? If Slam and Chez flipped town right now who is the final mafia? To be fair he did say Even character be Vivax Odd be MZ in his very next post but regardless. If Slam and Chez flipped ( I had them nulls but Chez thing was a misread overall and had him town before hand but want to confirm his alignment for the rest of the town) town I will have to do an entire evaluation of the entire game from scratch which I had done before as town. OK but can you re-evaluate now as a hypothetical? If I really had to use a gun to point at my head and assume both flipping town right at this very second maybe Marv, and you? But mostly because I would have to accept my read on Marv is wrong but I am pretty sure I can read him.
You think marv and I could be mafia together?
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On May 29 2023 10:24 LightningStrike wrote:
Unless you want me to just do an entire revaluation right now based i can try right now but that i had going into the filter dives.
The problem is, I read slam and Chez both as town, I know I am town, so in a world in which you are town, I want to kind of see if I can agree with any of your thought processes or reads, and see if we can read the game in a way that makes sense together.
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On May 29 2023 10:50 LightningStrike wrote:
DP if I flip town (Which I know I will) Can you name your mafia team?
Yep. Marv and DMB.
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On May 29 2023 11:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You guys really need to discuss more. Last day was mostly me and TTT and a little bit of DP discussing shit. Can't find mafia if people don't force other people to discuss stuff.
I have a 22 page filter, im trying bro.
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On May 29 2023 10:55 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 10:54 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 10:50 LightningStrike wrote:
DP if I flip town (Which I know I will) Can you name your mafia team? Yep. Marv and DMB. Reason for DMB?
Associations with Marv and VE pretty much. Plus her day one shit that made no sense.
I can see Scum!VE flying in there to save her and then telling her to bus him so that it makes life easier on her.
And then the fact she talked about marvs feared scum game, I think rayn is right and that could be from marv and VE flexing with a newbie in the scum QT.
That and POE, I have town reads on the rest.
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On May 29 2023 11:04 TankTopTiger wrote:
Am i wrong in thinking that connecto-cases this early tend to be bad?
Like, we only have VE, who played knowing there was a good chance he goes down early. He leaned into getting lynched. Trying to name the entire team before we unburrow a non-throwaway mafia seems like putting the cart before the horse.
What does PoE mean again?
What are you referring to hear?
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On May 29 2023 11:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:gg gl everyone it was nice to play with you all 
Im really glad I got to play with you again.
GG.
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On May 29 2023 11:12 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 11:07 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 10:55 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 10:54 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 10:50 LightningStrike wrote:
DP if I flip town (Which I know I will) Can you name your mafia team? Yep. Marv and DMB. Reason for DMB? Associations with Marv and VE pretty much. Plus her day one shit that made no sense. I can see Scum!VE flying in there to save her and then telling her to bus him so that it makes life easier on her. And then the fact she talked about marvs feared scum game, I think rayn is right and that could be from marv and VE flexing with a newbie in the scum QT. That and POE, I have town reads on the rest. I can see where you coming from like ya it could be seen that way but I don't think so though unless you think VE would coach her to do that kind of stuff towards him?
I think that is really possible.
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On May 29 2023 11:16 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 11:04 LightningStrike wrote:
Well that NK point towards me.... At least I was right about my read on him. Why? I am not seeing how this NK implicates anyone, Rayn was so town it hurts and is the only one of us who has managed to actually catch scum Like the team would then just let him live? Pure WIFOM to think anything is implied by this NK other than "raynpelikoneet good"
Yeah this is right.
What are your thoughts right now Slam? Your voting LS, but is it me or Marv afterwards?
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On May 29 2023 11:20 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 11:16 Alakaslam wrote:On May 29 2023 11:04 LightningStrike wrote:
Well that NK point towards me.... At least I was right about my read on him. Why? I am not seeing how this NK implicates anyone, Rayn was so town it hurts and is the only one of us who has managed to actually catch scum Like the team would then just let him live? Pure WIFOM to think anything is implied by this NK other than "raynpelikoneet good" Let's see in his last will he did say to lynch me today. Y es I do know he is a good player but why did he not get killed Night 1 then?
My god this is bad. Is Koshi not a good player?
Look how easy it is do even a smiple NK anallysis of this
Koshi suspected Marv during day 1 Died Night 1
Rayn suspected Marv during day 2 Died Night 2.
Marv is generally a legit monster town player why did he not die night 1.
Like, I don't even.....
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On May 29 2023 11:19 TankTopTiger wrote:
Well played Rayn. Thanks for the dump.
I'm parking a vote on Marv for all of the many reasons I've discussed at length. I simply cannot reconcile all the claims made about him carrying town with his actions. When I look at Rayn or Koshi, I got town vibes constantly. With DP, it's more complicated, because I know that he's insanely difficult to track as mafia. But for Marv, who is supposed to be the easiest town to spot, I see mostly evidence of him being mafia. Everything everyone has said about his meta indicates he should be a green read at this point if he is town but he's not even close. If you guys hold his town play in high regard like Koshi and Rayn demanded I do, then he's pretty clearly mafia at this point.
##vote: Marv
I agree with this, and I also want to betray rayn here and lynch marv now, because I think it will be really hard to do it later.
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On May 29 2023 11:24 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 11:17 Alakaslam wrote:
The things that implicate you are constant lurking + list post from hell
I know that isn't much but in this particular game that is enough, combined with the gut read of Rayn Let's see I was pretty much absent all of Day 2 because of irl stuff which I posted. I not constantly lurking at all just replying to stuff and asking questions Night 2 and atm.
Actually you did nothing much at all, your actions and your displayed emotions don;t mesh together and you start to be active as soon as you start to seriously get called out for it...
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On May 29 2023 11:25 TankTopTiger wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 11:08 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 11:04 TankTopTiger wrote:
Am i wrong in thinking that connecto-cases this early tend to be bad?
Like, we only have VE, who played knowing there was a good chance he goes down early. He leaned into getting lynched. Trying to name the entire team before we unburrow a non-throwaway mafia seems like putting the cart before the horse.
What does PoE mean again? What are you referring to hear? I'm referring to talking about having a whole lineup of the scum team. You said Marv/MB/VE and LS said me/Marv/VE. To me this feels out of sequence, we should wait until we get a kill on a mafia who isn't playing around being caught before we try to dream up the entire scum team. Otherwise we're A) building cases on quicksand and B) choreographing our play so that scum knows who to fuck with.
It was in hypothetical situations with multiple flips.
Like LS asked if he flipped town, I said to LS if Slam and Chez flipped town.
its playing around with POE, nothing to see here basically aside form if in these hypotheticals your thinking aligns or not.
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Im down to lynch marv or LS, but I'd reather lynch marv first, because I am more certain about him than LS ( because I think Marv -VE- DMB could be a thing) and because I don't know if Ill be able to lynch him with less townies on the board cause its gonna be hard.
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On May 29 2023 11:30 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 11:23 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 11:20 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 11:16 Alakaslam wrote:On May 29 2023 11:04 LightningStrike wrote:
Well that NK point towards me.... At least I was right about my read on him. Why? I am not seeing how this NK implicates anyone, Rayn was so town it hurts and is the only one of us who has managed to actually catch scum Like the team would then just let him live? Pure WIFOM to think anything is implied by this NK other than "raynpelikoneet good" Let's see in his last will he did say to lynch me today. Y es I do know he is a good player but why did he not get killed Night 1 then? My god this is bad. Is Koshi not a good player? Look how easy it is do even a smiple NK anallysis of this Koshi suspected Marv during day 1 Died Night 1 Rayn suspected Marv during day 2 Died Night 2. Marv is generally a legit monster town player why did he not die night 1. Like, I don't even..... Koshi in general doesn't die Night 1 over Rayn at least from what I remembered when both are town heck he flips his reads a bit more than Rayn does in general. Marv not dying Night 1 could set him up as a possible lynch or him being wrong? I guess idk man it's WIFOM. Maybe Rayn and Koshi were right and I was wrong about Marv?
Yes I know its WIFOM but you brought it up. I already stated ITT that I don't like to do NK analysis. I have fucked up multiple towns by not killing the obvious NK.
Im just trying to point out how bad and pointless that statement was.
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On May 29 2023 11:38 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 11:18 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 11:16 Alakaslam wrote:On May 29 2023 11:04 LightningStrike wrote:
Well that NK point towards me.... At least I was right about my read on him. Why? I am not seeing how this NK implicates anyone, Rayn was so town it hurts and is the only one of us who has managed to actually catch scum Like the team would then just let him live? Pure WIFOM to think anything is implied by this NK other than "raynpelikoneet good" Yeah this is right. What are your thoughts right now Slam? Your voting LS, but is it me or Marv afterwards? Ugh... I will cross that bridge when I come to it. I don't know anymore tbh.
The problem is, when we kill LS then we still need to get the lynch between myself and marv, better to hash this out now.
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On May 29 2023 11:37 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 11:35 TankTopTiger wrote:
LS you've had real life stuff, but that doesn't mean you have done stuff in this game. From the reader's perspective you are just a non-contributing player one way or another. You can't win on that front so don't bother arguing it. I know and I am trying to contribute now that I can play.
You have a 4 page filter, TTT has a four page filter.
TTT has caught scum and is a hard town read for almost everyone
LS is a ? at best and scum at worst.
Its not just your level of activity that is determining peoples read on you.
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On May 29 2023 11:51 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 11:44 TankTopTiger wrote:
FWIW LS I haven't even read the vast majority of your posts and your back and forths etc. You seem to constantly think you're under insane pressure but the only pressure I see on you is DP gently asking you questions, as if to gather the information for a potential future case.
If I were to guess, I'd say you probably see day 4 and if you don't there's not much you can do about it given your limited contribution. So plan around having a solid position that can be appraised day 4, so that (assuming you're town), you give us a solid chance not to mislynch you. Will do my best but it definitely felt like a lot of pressure though.
Generally it feels worse when you are mafia.
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On May 29 2023 17:38 TankTopTiger wrote:
Do mafia get to keep posting in the mafia discord after they've been lynched?
No
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