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On May 27 2023 13:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2023 13:05 DarthPunk wrote:
That’s fine but I think it points to which one is more likely mafia. And gives weight to the fact we are opposite aligned.
Why do you have to be opposite aligned? Show nested quote +On May 27 2023 13:05 DarthPunk wrote:
Btw isn’t it insanely late/ early for you? yeah like 7 am
Because if we were both town why is no one sheeping my LS wagon and then mislynching me afterwards???
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On May 27 2023 13:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay i can see it from your pov.
Why does mafia have to do it D1? Or D2?
Or if I ever get flipped worth keeping in mind.
I’m not sure what you mean about the last bit
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On May 27 2023 13:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2023 13:17 DarthPunk wrote:
Or if I ever get flipped worth keeping in mind.
You were the only one going ham on LS D1 so definitely either you are not scary enough / you are mafia with or without him / something else more scary for scum (which i am kinda trying to figure out)
You mean cos of Koshi kill at night?
I think I just don’t have the same reputation.
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On May 27 2023 13:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2023 13:23 DarthPunk wrote:On May 27 2023 13:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 27 2023 13:17 DarthPunk wrote:
Or if I ever get flipped worth keeping in mind.
You were the only one going ham on LS D1 so definitely either you are not scary enough / you are mafia with or without him / something else more scary for scum (which i am kinda trying to figure out) You mean cos of Koshi kill at night? I think I just don’t have the same reputation. Within which people? If i had to choose my kill presedence based on nothing but name i would rank marv - you - koshi- ve no brainer for me (it's not to say anyone is worse or anything it is just me). Obviously everything changes in a game of mafia, but still i dont know who in the game doesn't know your "reputation"?
Ok
I don’t put too much weight into nk analysis anyway generally too much wifom.
What I do put weight into is using nk analysis to push weird mislynches.
Just as an aside my girlfriend is so fucking mad about how much I have been using my phone these past days.
😂😂
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On May 27 2023 10:38 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2023 10:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 26 2023 11:11 DarthPunk wrote:So I am going to address the shit where Rayn thinks I am soft blaming him for the lynch on vivax, and I guess I sort of am, (although I also take responsibility for being wrong/bad or whatever makes you feel better) because from my perspective I was very open to being on either wagon at the time. On May 25 2023 08:29 DarthPunk wrote:On May 25 2023 08:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 25 2023 07:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 25 2023 06:13 Onegu wrote:On May 25 2023 06:08 marvellosity wrote:
Onegu, less blabla, more desperately trying to make yourself useful - I thank you Love you Marv but you should know that is not likely to happen. I got the message 30 minutes ago that this game started. Maybe this is helpful ##Vote: Marvellosity I want marv dead more than anyone in this thread but I don't like this . I mean like shiiiittt... Yeah this is bad. lol. On May 25 2023 08:30 DarthPunk wrote:
I could also get on the MZ wagon by the way. On May 25 2023 08:32 DarthPunk wrote:On May 25 2023 08:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 25 2023 08:30 DarthPunk wrote:
I could also get on the MZ wagon by the way. Out of all the people who want to kill me, this one makes me the most sad Im really open minded, just do more, tell me why I should lynch Lightning strike? Cause that dude is seriously not engaged. Is that normal? On May 25 2023 08:33 DarthPunk wrote:On May 25 2023 08:32 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 25 2023 08:30 DarthPunk wrote:
I could also get on the MZ wagon by the way. Hmph.... I fell more strongly about a Vivax lynch. I also think you are looking better recently so that's good. :D On May 25 2023 08:44 DarthPunk wrote:On May 25 2023 08:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 25 2023 08:32 DarthPunk wrote:On May 25 2023 08:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 25 2023 08:30 DarthPunk wrote:
I could also get on the MZ wagon by the way. Out of all the people who want to kill me, this one makes me the most sad Im really open minded, just do more, tell me why I should lynch Lightning strike? Cause that dude is seriously not engaged. Is that normal?[/QUOTE On May 25 2023 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey just got home from dinner and I see a Vivax train is started -_- Seriously though I don't like it and it formed very fast too like wtf????? I just love when people who aren't very active magically show up when their name is mentioned, especially close to the deadline. I don't know enough about his meta game to say that low activity is alignment indicative but I will say I've hated how all of his reads are either "town" or "null" Also his above post has the exact same vibe as this one: On May 25 2023 05:58 LightningStrike wrote:
And all caught up now if MZ is town he been 100% confirmed bias towards Marv unless Marv is actually mafia which I doubt because Marv rolls over and let people lynch him as mafia more than anything. MZ if you are town please just chill out take a deep breath and reevaluate Marv. Regarding dmb: I get why people are scumreading her but how fast the wagon is forming is giving me second thoughts to be honest. Who do you want to lynch LS? Since all the wagons are forming "too fast" Ok I like this post, but it could be argued that I just love when people who aren't very active magically show up when their name is mentioned, especially close to the deadline. could also apply to you. On May 25 2023 08:56 DarthPunk wrote:On May 25 2023 08:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
AND TO BE CLEAR ONEGU IS NOT EVEN MY TOP SCUM READ.
I feel like people aren't reading my posts clearly. I'd still rather lynch Vivax or LS or even Marv like I've been saying for a while. But again, town can play bad, one of my current suspects could flip town, Marv could wow me and turn into the towniest townie who ever town'd and I'd almost immediately slot Onegu into that spot. I really don’t get how you can think Marv is a good lynch at this point. Because I was open, and I had a strong town read in the thread with me, I asked rayn several times why I should not be on vivax. On May 25 2023 08:52 DarthPunk wrote:
Anyway, Rayn tell me why we shouldn't lynch vivax today for not being curious as to the alignment of others when that is, by his own admission, the primary reason for his engagement as town, when in this game he has posted a lot and not been curious? On May 25 2023 09:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 25 2023 08:59 DarthPunk wrote:On May 25 2023 08:52 DarthPunk wrote:
Anyway, Rayn tell me why we shouldn't lynch vivax today for not being curious as to the alignment of others when that is, by his own admission, the primary reason for his engagement as town, when in this game he has posted a lot and not been curious? Just putting it out there. I dont mind if you lynch Vivax. You may do as you please. On May 25 2023 09:06 DarthPunk wrote:On May 25 2023 09:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 25 2023 08:59 DarthPunk wrote:On May 25 2023 08:52 DarthPunk wrote:
Anyway, Rayn tell me why we shouldn't lynch vivax today for not being curious as to the alignment of others when that is, by his own admission, the primary reason for his engagement as town, when in this game he has posted a lot and not been curious? Just putting it out there. I dont mind if you lynch Vivax. You may do as you please. Ok let me rephrase. Tell me (why) you won’t lynch vivax On May 25 2023 09:16 DarthPunk wrote:On May 25 2023 09:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 25 2023 09:07 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 25 2023 09:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
VE is town though, bad imo, but town. No questions asked. Why bad? Genuinely curious. youre voting wrong In the post you linked you literally acknowledge that vivax could be mafia? Why is he voting wrong? On May 25 2023 09:24 DarthPunk wrote:On May 25 2023 09:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 25 2023 09:16 DarthPunk wrote:On May 25 2023 09:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 25 2023 09:07 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 25 2023 09:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
VE is town though, bad imo, but town. No questions asked. Why bad? Genuinely curious. youre voting wrong In the post you linked you literally acknowledge that vivax could be mafia? Why is he voting wrong? because things may and will change in hours between the posts. OK, that is fine. But that is the reason you gave for not voting him. If there are other reasons since then, could you let me know what they are? I am also voting Vivax, so if that vote is wrong, hen I would like to know why. This is very strange to me because I asked you earlier why I shouldn't lynch vivax and you said you wouldn't stop me but now the Vivax vote from VE is wrong and we are not going to lynch mafia. Like I was genuinely frustrated that I wasn't given clarity at the time when I was repeatedly trying to get some. On May 25 2023 09:31 DarthPunk wrote:On May 25 2023 09:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Disclaimer; i am not voting vivax over meapak whatever the situation is when i am awake during D1. Just that you know. Yeah I know this. I just don't know why this is the case. Are you just being stubborn? VE posts this interpretation On May 25 2023 09:35 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 25 2023 09:31 DarthPunk wrote:On May 25 2023 09:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Disclaimer; i am not voting vivax over meapak whatever the situation is when i am awake during D1. Just that you know. Yeah I know this. I just don't know why this is the case. Are you just being stubborn? Because from his perspective it's optimal play, mafia whoever they are are going to try and influence the vote IF his reads are right. Taking his vote out of the manipulable votes reduces mafia's power to affect the outcome IF his reads are right. And he's reinforcing anyone who values his reads that he's not moving his vote so they shouldn't either in the case that I keep trying to lynch Vivax. Which rayn says is very smart post. So I take that to be the reason that Rayn is giving for not wanting to lynch Vivax. I actually don't like this reason because it prevents me from being able to play the game, if every lynch is already decided by the euros before a lynch, so in my mind I discount it. On May 25 2023 09:43 DarthPunk wrote:On May 25 2023 09:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
Or he's mafia and knows it's a mislynch. Take your pick DP. I don't think he is mafia. I also am not convinced MZ is town, I'm just trying to understand the thought processes going on. I am really open to either. I just want some fucking clarity and engagement on the topic. Which I was not provided. On May 25 2023 10:39 DarthPunk wrote:
Day One Vote Count
Meapak_Ziphh (5) marvellosity, Koshi, Vivax, raynpelikoneet, LightningStrike, Alakaslam
Vivax (5): die_meatbaby, VisceraEyes, die_meatbaby, DarthPunk, Meapak_Ziphh, Alakaslam
VisceraEyes (1): Onegu
die_meatbaby (0): Koshi, Vivax, Darthpunk, raynpelikoneet, Onegu
Marvellosity (0): Koshi, Onegu
Onegu (0): VisceraEyes, die_meatbaby
Chezinu (0): Alakaslam, Vivax
Not Voting (2): [UoN]Sentinel, Chezinu
Don't know what to make of this. Trying to figure out where the scum are and the town reads are. ( a major criticisim later) At this point Rayn has left the thread. I am posting this and then dropping the topic mainly because I want to: 1.) be clear around my thinking at the time of the wagon on vivax forming 2.) clarify that yes, if Rayn had given me any strong reason to vote MZ over Vivax when we were interacting in the thread prior to the lynch I would have done so. 3.) Point out that I don't think it was as clear and obvious as people are making it out to be prior to the lynch, and if it was, then some clear communication about that fact would have changed the outcome. I am struggling to figure out this is what DP is interested in close to deadline N1? Like sure. But these are the questions. 1. Why did he hard townread MB when the rest of town (especially marv, Vivax, rayn) did not feel that wayIt stinks to me
This didn’t actually happen by the way, my view flip flopped like everyone else’s with new information, the only time I used town read her early Rayn also did. And that was before Koshi analysed the Rayn vivax discord read, and then /I/ pointed out her shitty chez read.
Do you actually not remember or read through this properly or are you deliberately misconstruing the facts?
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On May 27 2023 14:13 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2023 10:38 marvellosity wrote:On May 27 2023 10:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 26 2023 11:11 DarthPunk wrote:So I am going to address the shit where Rayn thinks I am soft blaming him for the lynch on vivax, and I guess I sort of am, (although I also take responsibility for being wrong/bad or whatever makes you feel better) because from my perspective I was very open to being on either wagon at the time. On May 25 2023 08:29 DarthPunk wrote:On May 25 2023 08:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 25 2023 07:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 25 2023 06:13 Onegu wrote:On May 25 2023 06:08 marvellosity wrote:
Onegu, less blabla, more desperately trying to make yourself useful - I thank you Love you Marv but you should know that is not likely to happen. I got the message 30 minutes ago that this game started. Maybe this is helpful ##Vote: Marvellosity I want marv dead more than anyone in this thread but I don't like this . I mean like shiiiittt... Yeah this is bad. lol. On May 25 2023 08:30 DarthPunk wrote:
I could also get on the MZ wagon by the way. On May 25 2023 08:32 DarthPunk wrote:On May 25 2023 08:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 25 2023 08:30 DarthPunk wrote:
I could also get on the MZ wagon by the way. Out of all the people who want to kill me, this one makes me the most sad Im really open minded, just do more, tell me why I should lynch Lightning strike? Cause that dude is seriously not engaged. Is that normal? On May 25 2023 08:33 DarthPunk wrote:On May 25 2023 08:32 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 25 2023 08:30 DarthPunk wrote:
I could also get on the MZ wagon by the way. Hmph.... I fell more strongly about a Vivax lynch. I also think you are looking better recently so that's good. :D On May 25 2023 08:44 DarthPunk wrote:On May 25 2023 08:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 25 2023 08:32 DarthPunk wrote:On May 25 2023 08:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 25 2023 08:30 DarthPunk wrote:
I could also get on the MZ wagon by the way. Out of all the people who want to kill me, this one makes me the most sad Im really open minded, just do more, tell me why I should lynch Lightning strike? Cause that dude is seriously not engaged. Is that normal?[/QUOTE On May 25 2023 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey just got home from dinner and I see a Vivax train is started -_- Seriously though I don't like it and it formed very fast too like wtf????? I just love when people who aren't very active magically show up when their name is mentioned, especially close to the deadline. I don't know enough about his meta game to say that low activity is alignment indicative but I will say I've hated how all of his reads are either "town" or "null" Also his above post has the exact same vibe as this one: On May 25 2023 05:58 LightningStrike wrote:
And all caught up now if MZ is town he been 100% confirmed bias towards Marv unless Marv is actually mafia which I doubt because Marv rolls over and let people lynch him as mafia more than anything. MZ if you are town please just chill out take a deep breath and reevaluate Marv. Regarding dmb: I get why people are scumreading her but how fast the wagon is forming is giving me second thoughts to be honest. Who do you want to lynch LS? Since all the wagons are forming "too fast" Ok I like this post, but it could be argued that I just love when people who aren't very active magically show up when their name is mentioned, especially close to the deadline. could also apply to you. On May 25 2023 08:56 DarthPunk wrote:On May 25 2023 08:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
AND TO BE CLEAR ONEGU IS NOT EVEN MY TOP SCUM READ.
I feel like people aren't reading my posts clearly. I'd still rather lynch Vivax or LS or even Marv like I've been saying for a while. But again, town can play bad, one of my current suspects could flip town, Marv could wow me and turn into the towniest townie who ever town'd and I'd almost immediately slot Onegu into that spot. I really don’t get how you can think Marv is a good lynch at this point. Because I was open, and I had a strong town read in the thread with me, I asked rayn several times why I should not be on vivax. On May 25 2023 08:52 DarthPunk wrote:
Anyway, Rayn tell me why we shouldn't lynch vivax today for not being curious as to the alignment of others when that is, by his own admission, the primary reason for his engagement as town, when in this game he has posted a lot and not been curious? On May 25 2023 09:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 25 2023 08:59 DarthPunk wrote:On May 25 2023 08:52 DarthPunk wrote:
Anyway, Rayn tell me why we shouldn't lynch vivax today for not being curious as to the alignment of others when that is, by his own admission, the primary reason for his engagement as town, when in this game he has posted a lot and not been curious? Just putting it out there. I dont mind if you lynch Vivax. You may do as you please. On May 25 2023 09:06 DarthPunk wrote:On May 25 2023 09:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 25 2023 08:59 DarthPunk wrote:On May 25 2023 08:52 DarthPunk wrote:
Anyway, Rayn tell me why we shouldn't lynch vivax today for not being curious as to the alignment of others when that is, by his own admission, the primary reason for his engagement as town, when in this game he has posted a lot and not been curious? Just putting it out there. I dont mind if you lynch Vivax. You may do as you please. Ok let me rephrase. Tell me (why) you won’t lynch vivax On May 25 2023 09:16 DarthPunk wrote:On May 25 2023 09:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 25 2023 09:07 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 25 2023 09:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
VE is town though, bad imo, but town. No questions asked. Why bad? Genuinely curious. youre voting wrong In the post you linked you literally acknowledge that vivax could be mafia? Why is he voting wrong? On May 25 2023 09:24 DarthPunk wrote:On May 25 2023 09:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 25 2023 09:16 DarthPunk wrote:On May 25 2023 09:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 25 2023 09:07 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 25 2023 09:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
VE is town though, bad imo, but town. No questions asked. Why bad? Genuinely curious. youre voting wrong In the post you linked you literally acknowledge that vivax could be mafia? Why is he voting wrong? because things may and will change in hours between the posts. OK, that is fine. But that is the reason you gave for not voting him. If there are other reasons since then, could you let me know what they are? I am also voting Vivax, so if that vote is wrong, hen I would like to know why. This is very strange to me because I asked you earlier why I shouldn't lynch vivax and you said you wouldn't stop me but now the Vivax vote from VE is wrong and we are not going to lynch mafia. Like I was genuinely frustrated that I wasn't given clarity at the time when I was repeatedly trying to get some. On May 25 2023 09:31 DarthPunk wrote:On May 25 2023 09:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Disclaimer; i am not voting vivax over meapak whatever the situation is when i am awake during D1. Just that you know. Yeah I know this. I just don't know why this is the case. Are you just being stubborn? VE posts this interpretation On May 25 2023 09:35 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 25 2023 09:31 DarthPunk wrote:On May 25 2023 09:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Disclaimer; i am not voting vivax over meapak whatever the situation is when i am awake during D1. Just that you know. Yeah I know this. I just don't know why this is the case. Are you just being stubborn? Because from his perspective it's optimal play, mafia whoever they are are going to try and influence the vote IF his reads are right. Taking his vote out of the manipulable votes reduces mafia's power to affect the outcome IF his reads are right. And he's reinforcing anyone who values his reads that he's not moving his vote so they shouldn't either in the case that I keep trying to lynch Vivax. Which rayn says is very smart post. So I take that to be the reason that Rayn is giving for not wanting to lynch Vivax. I actually don't like this reason because it prevents me from being able to play the game, if every lynch is already decided by the euros before a lynch, so in my mind I discount it. On May 25 2023 09:43 DarthPunk wrote:On May 25 2023 09:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
Or he's mafia and knows it's a mislynch. Take your pick DP. I don't think he is mafia. I also am not convinced MZ is town, I'm just trying to understand the thought processes going on. I am really open to either. I just want some fucking clarity and engagement on the topic. Which I was not provided. On May 25 2023 10:39 DarthPunk wrote:
Day One Vote Count
Meapak_Ziphh (5) marvellosity, Koshi, Vivax, raynpelikoneet, LightningStrike, Alakaslam
Vivax (5): die_meatbaby, VisceraEyes, die_meatbaby, DarthPunk, Meapak_Ziphh, Alakaslam
VisceraEyes (1): Onegu
die_meatbaby (0): Koshi, Vivax, Darthpunk, raynpelikoneet, Onegu
Marvellosity (0): Koshi, Onegu
Onegu (0): VisceraEyes, die_meatbaby
Chezinu (0): Alakaslam, Vivax
Not Voting (2): [UoN]Sentinel, Chezinu
Don't know what to make of this. Trying to figure out where the scum are and the town reads are. ( a major criticisim later) At this point Rayn has left the thread. I am posting this and then dropping the topic mainly because I want to: 1.) be clear around my thinking at the time of the wagon on vivax forming 2.) clarify that yes, if Rayn had given me any strong reason to vote MZ over Vivax when we were interacting in the thread prior to the lynch I would have done so. 3.) Point out that I don't think it was as clear and obvious as people are making it out to be prior to the lynch, and if it was, then some clear communication about that fact would have changed the outcome. I am struggling to figure out this is what DP is interested in close to deadline N1? Like sure. But these are the questions. 1. Why did he hard townread MB when the rest of town (especially marv, Vivax, rayn) did not feel that wayIt stinks to me This didn’t actually happen by the way, my view flip flopped like everyone else’s with new information, the only time I used town read her early Rayn also did. And that was before Koshi analysed the Rayn vivax discord read, and then /I/ pointed out her shitty chez read. Do you actually not remember or read through this properly or are you deliberately misconstruing the facts?
Hard not used.
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On May 23 2023 20:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 20:15 DarthPunk wrote:
Ok die meat baby is a hard town read at this point fwiw. i agree here
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On May 27 2023 14:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Do you actually not remember or read through this properly or are you deliberately misconstruing the facts?
Lol ?
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On May 27 2023 14:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why do you have to fucking take timelines out of place and make it look like something happened before something else? It's clearly not what marv is saying.
I walked my hard town read pretty much straight after that.
So I don’t really get what he is saying, no
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On May 27 2023 14:30 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2023 14:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why do you have to fucking take timelines out of place and make it look like something happened before something else? It's clearly not what marv is saying. I walked my hard town read pretty much straight after that. So I don’t really get what he is saying, no
Walked back.
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Also how am I taking timelines out of place that was early on?
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On May 27 2023 14:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Did you even re-read the page or so after?
Yea and what’s the point?
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On May 27 2023 14:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2023 14:33 DarthPunk wrote:On May 27 2023 14:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Did you even re-read the page or so after? Yea and what’s the point? Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 20:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So wait you think she is town because she is suspicious about some she knows irl???
Just for that?
And no justification on the fact Koshi pointed out that she IS a first time player (unless lies), so how can she ACTUALLY feel so sure about Vivax being mafia (unless explained better).
Just for that? Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 20:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 20:44 Koshi wrote:
Man... I have so much issues with the fact town friend Vivax brings a new person to the game and this person goes full on attack mode on Vivax while the reasoning is complete nonsensical Discord stuff and rayn and Darthpunk just gobble it up. I agree with you dont worry.
Yeah. I also walked back after I read that afterwards. I basically did exactly what you did. Which is the whole pointy. Read the parts I walk back on dmb and then town read her again later.
The point is we both did it for the same reason but for some reason I am scummy for this and you are not.
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On May 27 2023 14:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i fucking confronted you on the stupid ass shit point that she is town because she is playing with someone she knows even....
I don’t think that was a stupid point. People are more comfortable exhibiting strong behaviours to people they are comfortable with. That is basic psychology.
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On May 27 2023 14:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
DO-NOT-SPIN-THINGS-TO-WHAT-THEY-ARE-NOT!
Otherwise you will have an enemy you do not want. And i don't care if i lose when i get mad.
Sure let’s drop it then.
But fwiw I’m not trying to spin anything. This is just my perspective.
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On May 27 2023 15:59 TankTopTiger wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2023 10:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 27 2023 09:43 TankTopTiger wrote:
I don't think redDP hammers the vote D1 if redVE led it.
Why not? Knowing Meapak is town why does it matter if they are on the same wagon or not, they are equally "wrong" anyways. VE's case on vivax was weak. There's no reason to jump on it unless you've got your own reasons for thinking vivax scum. I happened to think vivax was a good lynch at the time (better than MZ), but at no point was it because VE made a compelling case. For scumDP, it made little sense to hammer a weak case on a (to be confirmed) town. Instead they could have just let MZ die and had you lot in the gallows the next few days.
Wouldn’t this same logic also apply if I was scum and ve was town?
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On May 27 2023 17:10 TankTopTiger wrote:
The same logic applies but I guess I tend to expect mafia to try and diversify their scum portfolios instead of all going in on the one train day 1 without a strong motivator. I can see redVE jumping on your wagon because they seem reckless, but I guess I don't expect it from you?
What do you think of lightning strike?
Does his emotion not seem inconsistent with his care factor about other parts of the game to you?
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On May 27 2023 17:39 TankTopTiger wrote:
Not gonna lie, I've not paid much attention to LS. I figure if any of the less influential members are suddenly super important I'll filter dive them and develop an opinion then.
I've basically been skipping all posts by LS, Ala, Chez and Onegu as they're either trolling, lurking, or have had very little influence for other reasons.
I don't really see there being time for me to change my mind before next lynching, given the full day I have tomorrow.
Can you look at the reaction to the day post and see if you think it seemed genuine based on his investment he has in the game
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On May 27 2023 18:02 TankTopTiger wrote:
I think it comes off as bad but I don't know LS. They have a lot of posts (on their acconut)but are those mafia game posts (I assume so).
With VE, at times he wrote succinctly and showed awareness. This is part of the reason why his shit-postery feels so wrong to me, because I know he's hiding his power level one way or another. With LS, it seems to me like he posts in a stream of consciousness way even before the game began.
Overall the tone of LS's post is off. He's trying to be hyperbolic similar to how Koshi was after N1 post but Koshi seemed pretty emotional while LS does not. I agree it's out of place for LS's level of engagement, but I'm so used to inconsistency in lower engagement players I don't consider it that worthy of note.
Did you read the part that vivax stated that his read on ls would get worse with continued low activity. From what I understand they play together pretty often.
Basically I am trying to get you to consider a LS lynch because I’m am covvinced he is mafia.
And I think ve is such a loose cannon he could be literally anything.
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On May 27 2023 18:26 TankTopTiger wrote:
I don't think you can convince me that he's a better lynch than VE, and I'm not really sure what has you convinced.
I don't really place any stock in vivax's read. I don't know vivax other than that as doctor he managed to die d1. I don't see LS as having so much internal logic you get to have strong reads on them.
If you can show me that right now, you (DP) have the knowledge that actually LS is capable of being a proactive and productive town member, I'll listen. So show me a game where he had a large and productive filter that you were in (you being in it is important because otherwise it'll be post-hoc). If you don't have that knowledge currently, this feels kind of weird from you.
I haven’t played that much with him I think.
The fact that he is clearly performative in that post in a way that doesn’t make sense with his level of engagement and later on he starts soft pushing me with night kill wifom only to back track as soon as questioned, speaks to a lack of conviction for what he is saying, would someone with so little conviction actually care so much to react to a night kill In that way?!
It just doesn’t make any sense in terms of motivation.
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