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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 31 2023 12:45 GMT
#2964
On May 31 2023 16:58 marvellosity wrote:
We’ve just lynched 2 mafia. Why are you so angry?

If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 31 2023 12:45 GMT
#2965
On May 31 2023 17:01 TankTopTiger wrote:
Why are you so bored? You have someone yelling in your face and you're pretending to be bored. Why?

Being yelled at is unpleasant af
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 31 2023 12:47 GMT
#2967
On May 31 2023 17:26 TankTopTiger wrote:
You followed my lead on both lynches then claimed I hadn't done anything. Good job man.

@Town
Don't be lazy on this. The votes are right there. I was second to vote VE and first to push the case. With LS, DP made the first case and then I followed up with the finishing blow showing he was lying about being open to lynching Marv.

While technically not lying, Marv is twisting the truth here far beyond what any honest player would consider reasonable.

Indeed I will not be.

Fucking hard game. I still have work. Just hoping we have some more info once somebody flips.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 31 2023 12:48 GMT
#2969
On May 31 2023 21:43 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2023 20:07 die_meatbaby wrote:
This night there getting Chez or Slam killed.
If you kill Dp it would be to obvious for marv to kill him as Mafia. Marv wouldn't be that stupid and nobody of us would believe this shit anymore.
If you kill me it's your direct way to death.
If you kill Marv you wouldn't have the trust of the Town anymore because he flips Town.

I would pray for one of Chez and slam to die. I think it will be you.

Ditto, but backing up
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 31 2023 12:49 GMT
#2970
On May 31 2023 17:40 marvellosity wrote:
Do you still keep a spreadsheet of your reads from a scale of 100 to -100 btw?

I do not do this or anything like it

From my perspective, that's hosting shit. Or accounting shit.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 31 2023 12:52 GMT
#2971
On May 31 2023 18:24 TankTopTiger wrote:
I gave Marv every opportunity to correct his story on why he voted LS. One third of that story was that LS voted for Marv without thinking.

This is unfortunate for Marv, because LS absolutely refused to vote for Marv until his dying breath. LS voted himself before voting Marv.

So one third of Meticulous Marv's case that he super duper definitely contributed to and didn't sheep... NEVER HAPPENED. Marv is making it up.

I was concerned that maybe Marv was being ambiguous in his language, so I rephrased it for him and he accepted that interpretation.

MARV JUST LIED AND PRETENDED TO HAVE MADE A CASE HE IN FACT CANT REMEMBER

This is over. Marv is scum. There can be no doubt. I'm done here.

Wait what?

If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 31 2023 12:53 GMT
#2973
On May 31 2023 19:45 die_meatbaby wrote:
@Town
Why do you all think TTT is Town? Nobody thinks he is mafia. He saw that DP is thinking of Marv is Mafia. He see that they are pushing each other since D1 and try to push that more and more. Dream case from TTT is we voting one of them out. Prefer Marv first. Marv flips Town. Of course DP is next because he tried to push Dp more on marv than he did before TTT comes in the game. We all would vote DP. Flips Town as well. TTT is mafia.
I don't see you as Town anymore. You just try to push DP on Marv. You don't try to get Chez Slam or me on lynching Marv. You try to let Dp to the work and we would vote on 2 Town.
This Szenario is so out of world smart, when I am thinking of you as the person you described yourself. You where writing you played the game a few times before but tried to look like newbi. Look at his... at your posts... the way you write... this is master playing Bs. You write like you are playing for decades. I don't believe you anymore as Town

Hear hear
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 31 2023 12:54 GMT
#2974
Fair cop I will that
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 31 2023 13:01 GMT
#2975
On May 31 2023 20:09 die_meatbaby wrote:
I would like to see the opinion from Slam and Chez here..

It seems you wrote it.

Sorry marv but I can't help it.

Will keep reading but I have to get ready for work too.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 31 2023 13:03 GMT
#2977
I'm back to never, ever, period, lynching Marv this game.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 31 2023 13:03 GMT
#2978
On May 31 2023 22:02 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2023 22:01 Alakaslam wrote:
On May 31 2023 20:09 die_meatbaby wrote:
I would like to see the opinion from Slam and Chez here..

It seems you wrote it.

Sorry marv but I can't help it.

Will keep reading but I have to get ready for work too.

Seems I wrote what?

No DMB wrote my opinion; she changed my mind.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 31 2023 13:05 GMT
#2980
On May 31 2023 22:04 marvellosity wrote:
Ah ha. That wasn’t clear :p Carry on sir.

I caught up, I will go to work but (unless I get shot- please do tyty would be funni) I will have more to say a bit before flip and post flip for sure.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 31 2023 13:05 GMT
#2981
But never lynching marv.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 31 2023 13:34 GMT
#2985
I'm inconsistent, yes, but people point stuff out and I oftentimes find I believe it. That is made easier when it is something I already came to not long before.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 31 2023 14:05 GMT
#2988
On May 31 2023 22:49 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2023 22:24 marvellosity wrote:
On May 31 2023 22:22 die_meatbaby wrote:
If I get killed this night to me all favor and don't vote on marv or slam Pls

What’s your reason for Slam townread?


I have the felling that he is not red and not green.

Ok in the future don't say this kind of stuff at night phase. That basically lands the shot on me if I actually were.

Thanks rather!
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 31 2023 22:45 GMT
#2998
On June 01 2023 07:35 TankTopTiger wrote:
My other account was Spaghetticus, DP already linked it. I had a pattern of being bad and getting mislynched as town.

@Ches @slam @DMB
I need you guys to figure out whether you're ignoring me because you think I'm scum, or because you think I'm incompetent. Because it feels like you believe both at once somehow in your quest to lose this game.


Neither. I think you are tunneled.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 01 2023 01:31 GMT
#3011
On June 01 2023 07:50 TankTopTiger wrote:
Okay Slam, does that not mean you think I'm town, but that I'm incompetent (I'm throwing by overtunneling)?

Eh, that's not incompetence- but, yes, I do think you are town and potentially throwing.

I don't think you have the clout to pull it off though, so I don't mind that much.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 01 2023 01:32 GMT
#3012
On June 01 2023 08:03 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2023 07:45 Alakaslam wrote:
On June 01 2023 07:35 TankTopTiger wrote:
My other account was Spaghetticus, DP already linked it. I had a pattern of being bad and getting mislynched as town.

@Ches @slam @DMB
I need you guys to figure out whether you're ignoring me because you think I'm scum, or because you think I'm incompetent. Because it feels like you believe both at once somehow in your quest to lose this game.


Neither. I think you are tunneled.


Who do you think is Mafia Slam?

Cause it seems to me like you are town reading everyone in the game at this point?

...

Actually, yes, lol

So I need to read.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 01 2023 01:34 GMT
#3013
Wish I had the time. Will try a bit... but today was long and I kinda just want to see the flip... and then go from there. Who dies will probably have a lot of impact on who I think is the last one
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 01 2023 02:05 GMT
#3022
On June 01 2023 11:01 DarthPunk wrote:
Ok basically I am hoping that there is enough confusion in the direction I am going, that I get Night Killed therefore providing some further clarity to solving the game.

I think this game is basically in two worlds as I have said previously.

1.) Marv is mafia

or

2.) Marv is not mafia and I have been masterfully manipulated into thinking he is by the scum team.

The reason I believe this to be the case is that from the start of the game, two of the confirmed mafia have been setting up some kind of showdown between myself and marv.

Look at both the entry posts to the game from VE and LS



Show nested quote +
On May 23 2023 23:32 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey I was busy last night and didn't check to see if the game started and caught up now!
Marv looks town to me? I think he would of folded as mafia considering he is known for that given the pressure he was getting from DP but he continued posting his thoughts like I remembered how he was in XXX in 2015.
VE is null he hasn't posted anything since a few hours ago will wait for judgement on him.
dmb is null the stuff for why she scumreading Vivax is very odd?
Koshi is town so far he been posting like I remembered how he was when I played back then.
Rayn looks town I like the pressure on dmb from him so far and waiting for a conclusion of his pressure on her.
DP I didn't like his early posting towards Marv (Even suggesting Marv is mafia??) and then gave a hard townread on dmb? His evolution of his read on Marv does seem organic. Null for now I guess.


LS was very spewy as mafia, I have read his filter again and again and everything points to some weird association with Marv:

Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 06:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2023 06:09 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 25 2023 06:03 Vivax wrote:
On May 25 2023 05:58 LightningStrike wrote:
And all caught up now if MZ is town he been 100% confirmed bias towards Marv unless Marv is actually mafia which I doubt because Marv rolls over and let people lynch him as mafia more than anything. MZ if you are town please just chill out take a deep breath and reevaluate Marv. Regarding dmb: I get why people are scumreading her but how fast the wagon is forming is giving me second thoughts to be honest.


Marv had trouble in handling SRs on him without exploding. But I think that applied to a lot of us gamers.
I think the paranoia on him got so annoying that he stopped fighting, doesn‘t mean he didn‘t fight for a good portion of his history and could do it again.

Maybe I am not getting why people were getting paranoid of his scum game though? Regardless though what is your read on Marv atm?

This is really out of place. Why would you ask your town read what his read on your other town read is in this situation?


Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 06:15 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 25 2023 06:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2023 06:09 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 25 2023 06:03 Vivax wrote:
On May 25 2023 05:58 LightningStrike wrote:
And all caught up now if MZ is town he been 100% confirmed bias towards Marv unless Marv is actually mafia which I doubt because Marv rolls over and let people lynch him as mafia more than anything. MZ if you are town please just chill out take a deep breath and reevaluate Marv. Regarding dmb: I get why people are scumreading her but how fast the wagon is forming is giving me second thoughts to be honest.


Marv had trouble in handling SRs on him without exploding. But I think that applied to a lot of us gamers.
I think the paranoia on him got so annoying that he stopped fighting, doesn‘t mean he didn‘t fight for a good portion of his history and could do it again.

Maybe I am not getting why people were getting paranoid of his scum game though? Regardless though what is your read on Marv atm?

This is really out of place. Why would you ask your town read what his read on your other town read is in this situation?

I wanted to see where he is at with Marv to gain another perspective? Like I know I could be wrong on Marv and all but he never posted it unless I misread his filter.


LS hard town reads and hard defends Marv all game, and he tries to throw as much doubt as possible on me all game.

Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 08:52 LightningStrike wrote:
Ok first filter I just looked at is MZ because I remembered he was wanting me dead and I did know people were wanting to lynch him: If he is town well he been tunneled on me and Marv this entire cycle and was making bad points towards Marv. Maybe mafia motivation because he refused to reconsider his reads on me and Marv.


Then LS tries to use the Koshi night kill to form a wagon on me:

Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 08:52 LightningStrike wrote:
Ok first filter I just looked at is MZ because I remembered he was wanting me dead and I did know people were wanting to lynch him: If he is town well he been tunneled on me and Marv this entire cycle and was making bad points towards Marv. Maybe mafia motivation because he refused to reconsider his reads on me and Marv.


Like this play is soooo polarising. Is that the point? Is LS such a god tier mafia player that he is trying to create an association with marv and myself from the start of the game, planning on never night killing either of us so that eventually we will mislynch eachother?

Or is he just literally bad, and is hard defending his strongest scum partner all game, and assuming we will talk ourselves out of it because it is Too simple.

I'm leaning towards the latter at this point.

I think this next post is really weird:

Show nested quote +
On May 29 2023 10:55 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 29 2023 10:54 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 29 2023 10:50 LightningStrike wrote:
DP if I flip town (Which I know I will) Can you name your mafia team?


Yep. Marv and DMB.

Reason for DMB?



I give my scum team if LS is mafia, and he doesn't ask for clarity on why marv is in the team, presumably if marv is town then he knows I am wrong on this point, and he is trying to get me lynched, so why doesn't he push back here. I think its because he knows I am correct

Like most of LS's play in this game is oriented around marv, and I just don;t believe he is good enough to do that deliberately, planned from the start of the game, in order to get marv mislynched when he could just NK town marv.

Show nested quote +
On May 29 2023 11:30 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 29 2023 11:23 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 29 2023 11:20 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 29 2023 11:16 Alakaslam wrote:
On May 29 2023 11:04 LightningStrike wrote:
Well that NK point towards me.... At least I was right about my read on him.

Why?

I am not seeing how this NK implicates anyone, Rayn was so town it hurts and is the only one of us who has managed to actually catch scum

Like the team would then just let him live?

Pure WIFOM to think anything is implied by this NK other than "raynpelikoneet good"

Let's see in his last will he did say to lynch me today. Yes I do know he is a good player but why did he not get killed Night 1 then?


My god this is bad. Is Koshi not a good player?

Look how easy it is do even a smiple NK anallysis of this

Koshi suspected Marv during day 1 Died Night 1

Rayn suspected Marv during day 2 Died Night 2.

Marv is generally a legit monster town player why did he not die night 1.

Like, I don't even.....

Koshi in general doesn't die Night 1 over Rayn at least from what I remembered when both are town heck he flips his reads a bit more than Rayn does in general. Marv not dying Night 1 could set him up as a possible lynch or him being wrong? I guess idk man it's WIFOM. Maybe Rayn and Koshi were right and I was wrong about Marv?



THIS NEXT POST IS THE MOST IMPORTANT POST IN THE GAME

Show nested quote +
On May 30 2023 03:29 marvellosity wrote:
LightningStrike, if you are town you need to vote with me and lynch DP.

If not, then I will flip town, DP will get lynched and flip mafia, then you will get lynched. Your choice bud.




Show nested quote +
On May 30 2023 04:20 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 30 2023 03:29 marvellosity wrote:
LightningStrike, if you are town you need to vote with me and lynch DP.

If not, then I will flip town, DP will get lynched and flip mafia, then you will get lynched. Your choice bud.

This appeal to emotion is just to strong for me. If he is mafia he wouldn't of appealed to me this hard over others.
## Vote: DarthPunk


This is one of the reasons Marv gave for thinking LS was mafia.

But he literally says, if you are town you will do this. This is a massive massive contradiction that town Marv is too good to make.

Town Marv does not say this:

Show nested quote +
On May 30 2023 03:29 marvellosity wrote:
LightningStrike, if you are town you need to vote with me and lynch DP.

If not, then I will flip town, DP will get lynched and flip mafia, then you will get lynched. Your choice bud.


To then lynch that person for doing exactly what he asked for.

Town Marv does not just ignore this meta post which accurately describes his play this game

Show nested quote +
On May 31 2023 13:28 DarthPunk wrote:
On January 17 2015 20:14 marvellosity wrote:
can you even *imagine* what my filter *should* look like in a game this size?

not getting lynched when everyone realises you're mafia is quite the achievement, i'd say :p

There's no such thing as "stylistically" calling certain townies mafia. That's just incorrect play, nothing more, nothing less. And he wasn't the only one.

edit: like town needs to cut through what's important and what's not. calling obvious townies and likely townies mafia is what lets mafia hide!

Damdred and I were playing below our towngames, and noticeably so, and that's what was *actually* important, but it was beautifully drowned out (from scum PoV) from all the crackpot nonsense going on around us, hiding us in amongst the bs.



yeah.....


Town marv does not talk about who is 'worthy of a swap

Show nested quote +
On May 31 2023 16:28 marvellosity wrote:
On May 31 2023 16:27 TankTopTiger wrote:
Then I'm happy to be lynched, right after you ofc.

You’re not worthy of a 1 to 1 swap. DP is.


Town marv finds and lynches mafia, and talks about who is and isn't mafia.

Show nested quote +
On May 31 2023 16:51 marvellosity wrote:
Let’s not engage again. I literally cannot wait for post game if you’re town



Town marv does not prey on fear. He lynches mafia based on logic


I also have been thinking of VE back flip on Marv and myself one must be mafia.

Show nested quote +
On May 24 2023 03:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm not sure I'll ever get used to being able to read the whole thread over the course of one cigarette. Not sure if good thing or bad thing, I guess we'll find out come D2 or 3.

1) [UoN]Sentinel
2) Alakaslam
3) Chezinu
4) Vivax
5) LightningStrike
6) DarthPunk
7) Onegu
8) Koshi
9) die_meatbaby
10) raynpelikoneet
11) Meapak_Ziphh
12) marvellosity
13) VisceraEyes

I think there's exactly one mafia inside marv/DP but I don't know which and I don't want to lynch either today. I'm leaning toward DP being the maf based on interactions with not-marv.

I think mayor today should be DMB. The discord stuff is about Viv and rayn right? I disagree with his reasoning, but it feels SOOOOOOOO townie, like...newer mafia would be scared to even MENTION Discord right? IDK meta is meta but I'd follow meat anywhere this phase. Including (ugh) onto one of my townreads.

MZ town for wanting to townread me. That's a town thing to want. I have a lot of townreads, so I think there's at least 1, maybe 2 mafia in the lurking class. I think a D1 lurker lynch is in order, my vote will reflect that.


I think this post nailed him:

Show nested quote +
On May 24 2023 19:26 DarthPunk wrote:
By the way I have been reading my old games, and I came across this:

On September 28 2014 12:41 geript wrote:
But maybe DP. VE really does like to do "one of these two is mafia" as mafia, lynch the town then form a townread on his partner.


I know I said I would not use meta, but I thought I would put it out there for discussion of something other than DMB


Marv saw the post, and is like Oh Shit!

Show nested quote +
On May 24 2023 20:27 marvellosity wrote:
On May 24 2023 19:26 DarthPunk wrote:
By the way I have been reading my old games, and I came across this:

On September 28 2014 12:41 geript wrote:
But maybe DP. VE really does like to do "one of these two is mafia" as mafia, lynch the town then form a townread on his partner.


I know I said I would not use meta, but I thought I would put it out there for discussion of something other than DMB

Saucy, I like it


And then VE backs out for no reason

Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 02:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 25 2023 02:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2023 01:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
I still think the meat train sucks. Like, I'm filtering Vivax now and I'd much rather lynch that than the meaty one. Here I'll show you.

Where did the one of marv/DP is scum end and why?

Did you not hear my song?

Marv and DP both look better on reread, idk if work/sleep changed my perspective, but they both seem town now. I couldn't even remember when I woke up and filtered MYSELF why I actually thought marv was mafia. DP has been like ubertryhard town the whole time.

I'm more interested in why you give a shit unless you want to lynch one of DP or marv and why you aren't CURRENTLY voting Vivax.


I promise that I have really, really tried to think about a situation that Marv is town, if only because it will mean the LS switch was godlike.

But honestly, there is no way Marv is not mafia in this spot.

If I die, you need to lynch him.

If you don't believe you need to lynch him.

DO NOT LET HIM GET TO A LYLO WITH DMB AND TTT

DMB you have been pocketed hard this game, I would really like you to turn that natural scepticism onto marv and genuinely consider thatTTT and I might have solved the game, yesterday was a scum LS vs Scum Marv lynch and it really was that simple. Because OCCAMS RAZOR


Somehow, if you lynch Marv and he is town, the final mafia is most likely chezinu for the reasons I pushed after the night 3 post, and Spew from LS

BUT THIS IS ONLY IF MARV FLIPS GREEN

Wow

Ok

Wow

I am not a man of my word... glad you weren't shot
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