On May 30 2023 12:58 TankTopTiger wrote: You said you were pretty sure you could read him but your read comes down to "if he folds D1 he's mafia" and "if he folds later than this he's confirmed town"?
Ya he pretty much really only try hard as town only a few times he did he did try hard as mafia but it so rare though like Imperial. Imperial was the last game where he went full tryhard mode as mafia.
Oh God I hosted that thing.
That was a horrible game for Marv and like everyone involved. Iirc it is over 500 pages long.
On May 30 2023 13:21 TankTopTiger wrote: Okay but he's not try-harding. He didn't get lynched D1 because he had Koshi and Rayn handing grapes up to him as he presided over the peasants from within his palanquin. Why would he ever have folded in your mind if the two strongest, most townest players were saying "Marv is vetted" and "MZ's case on Marv is REALLY bad", both things that these skilled confirmed town players later took back.
Why would he fold under non-existent pressure, and more importantly, why would you think he would?
Ok again Koshi and Rayn are older to this mafia forum than I am, whereas LS is newer. Marv is like, one of the star students of basically the founder's circle here.
He got demotivated during a time period when many of this game's returning vets had said "fux TL mafia this sux" and a lot of... questionable players remained.
And the Chupazilord started questioning his authority in games similar to how you have, and then became a host, and then was a lazy host, and marv's moto for this shit kinda fizzled.
I saw that fire returning in this game, I had thought.
M_Z was there to see it but like Rayn was trying out Vendetta Strada (and trying to convince me to go there), VE was at omgus.net among some others, I was there too actually and Rayn I think, Koshi did that thing like the meme with the black kid who gives the peace sign and vanishes, Chezinu will always and was still here, DP was among those who, while still here for Diplo, wasn't really joining mafia games because FTSIO, Blazinghand was taking over control of the ban list from Gmarshal, man a lot of drama has happened here and it is getting fuzzy in my memory.
But yeah LS is not as inconsistent here as he may seem but works for me, dude is still mafia
I am a common upper normal IQ asshole in that BMW that just cut you off in his aviators trust fund baby troll.
Holyflare was like that lawyer who was always across the bench from you.
Raynpelikoneer is like the guy who is really chill and cool until you look at him funny and then you find him everywhere asking how exactly you hold this nonsense logic? Do you really call it logic? Really? Come on. What do you actually believe, scum? When actually you got lazy and fucked up
Koshi is like Rayn but from Belgium, not Finland, so the cigarettes have been replaced with coffee and so he is posting like 10x more
Contrast this with Ver, Ace, Foolishness, Hapahauli (my birthdate twin, btw he is like 3 hours older than I am) Igrok, Conversion, Chezinu it is easy to see how the environment was... less great.
On May 23 2023 19:12 VisceraEyes wrote: Hi I'm here. Being able to read the whole thread in one sitting is...novel.
What's in here is all right. I'm a little weirded out by DP wanting to lynch marv right away, it's inherently unhelpful as A) marv hasn't historically been moved by pressure, especially on D1, and B) has marv like ever been lynched on D1? Like, idk I haven't played in a decade but as I recall he has vet shielding as someone who can solve the game later. Is that the joke? Was DP literally just being funny? Meh.
I'm suspicious of DP. Also thanks DP for inviting me to play. <3
Sounds a bit sensible for my liking
Care to elaborate why though? I don't agree with a lot in the content of the post but i have a similar conclusion about DP's alignment atm. I would rather call him mafia (as i would you as well), than town.
It’s difficult not to latch on to very old meta feelings when I have nothing else to go on. I have always felt VE sounds inherently more reasonable near the start of the game as mafia.
It may also be that I just like teasing VE.
In hindsight this looks ready to bus. Or else, quite the God read.
Rayn hated both Marv and DP. Would be great to find today was a maf/maf wagon all along
On May 23 2023 20:49 Koshi wrote: The meta question was horrible and was not going anywhere ever.
I don’t want to clog up the thread too much getting into an argument about this. But anyway - I did not ask because I wanted it to go anywhere ever, but because meta of both people and sites is genuinely interesting and nothing else was happening.
If you hadn’t played somewhere in a long time, wouldn’t you be curious how the play style has evolved?
I dont think that's the point, and i would not hold you accountable on something like that alone on my end.
What's your opinion on people now?
Tell me what the point is then
You have not really done anything and for sure someone has said something smart already, you haven't even nodged on anything. Youre for sure a "slow" starter that excels at the eod(1) but so far it has been nothing when i at least you should have had something (more) to say.
How many times do you reckon you have said this or something very close to this to me?
Probably a lot, but it still stands a point though. Come on you know how mafia games work.
If you think noone has a point on anything or has a point on something just say it.
If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI.
I once had a game with Kushm4sta where we hard bussed each other the whole way.
On May 23 2023 20:49 Koshi wrote: The meta question was horrible and was not going anywhere ever.
I don’t want to clog up the thread too much getting into an argument about this. But anyway - I did not ask because I wanted it to go anywhere ever, but because meta of both people and sites is genuinely interesting and nothing else was happening.
If you hadn’t played somewhere in a long time, wouldn’t you be curious how the play style has evolved?
I understand that is potentially true. But that only pinged me. After that you played rather cautious and also there I understand that "not clogging up the thread" is a good excuse for a small filter, but fact is that you have: 1) an opening with a question that goes nowhere 2) a cautious playstyle 3) a small filter
I said I wasn’t going to get into this but as you all know I can’t help myself. 3. I’m actually conscious of the fact I already have quite a large filter. I’m going to have points (assuming I survive long enough) where I’m unable to be too active, so it’s in my best interests that the thread doesn’t explode too much. And I’m too good at making large threads.
I think I am bang on that if town make a concerted effort to discern meatbaby’s alignment early on, that will be a good result for town.
Because I do not understand why it is in future you his best interest to have less than half a page filter at this point on D1. I will translate your answer to: 3 reads to me as "I am mafia and my plan is too fade away when I NK'ed all the good people. So it is best for me to post as little as possible now to make it more believable later."
It’s a fair interpretation so I shan’t argue!
Lol this is probably why I TR marv at the time.
Shit like this. He knows if he gets Koshi passed, imperial will happen again and it will look like this watching the dude post:
On May 30 2023 14:35 Alakaslam wrote: Like, Chezinu is a rare high IQ gentleman troll.
I am a common upper normal IQ asshole in that BMW that just cut you off in his aviators trust fund baby troll.
Holyflare was like that lawyer who was always across the bench from you.
Raynpelikoneer is like the guy who is really chill and cool until you look at him funny and then you find him everywhere asking how exactly you hold this nonsense logic? Do you really call it logic? Really? Come on. What do you actually believe, scum? When actually you got lazy and fucked up
Koshi is like Rayn but from Belgium, not Finland, so the cigarettes have been replaced with coffee and so he is posting like 10x more
Contrast this with Ver, Ace, Foolishness, Hapahauli (my birthdate twin, btw he is like 3 hours older than I am) Igrok, Conversion, Chezinu it is easy to see how the environment was... less great.
What was I slam i am sad to be left out of the analysis? ( although I only played around 30 games)
You were Darthpunk. Unfortunately, I remember you as one of those who didn't want to tolerate my brand of trolling. Young BMW punks call that "mean" but now that I am basically mean and self aware I don't want to call someone who I have found out is not that, that
On May 30 2023 14:35 Alakaslam wrote: Like, Chezinu is a rare high IQ gentleman troll.
I am a common upper normal IQ asshole in that BMW that just cut you off in his aviators trust fund baby troll.
Holyflare was like that lawyer who was always across the bench from you.
Raynpelikoneer is like the guy who is really chill and cool until you look at him funny and then you find him everywhere asking how exactly you hold this nonsense logic? Do you really call it logic? Really? Come on. What do you actually believe, scum? When actually you got lazy and fucked up
Koshi is like Rayn but from Belgium, not Finland, so the cigarettes have been replaced with coffee and so he is posting like 10x more
Contrast this with Ver, Ace, Foolishness, Hapahauli (my birthdate twin, btw he is like 3 hours older than I am) Igrok, Conversion, Chezinu it is easy to see how the environment was... less great.
On May 30 2023 12:58 TankTopTiger wrote: You said you were pretty sure you could read him but your read comes down to "if he folds D1 he's mafia" and "if he folds later than this he's confirmed town"?
Ya he pretty much really only try hard as town only a few times he did he did try hard as mafia but it so rare though like Imperial. Imperial was the last game where he went full tryhard mode as mafia.
Oh God I hosted that thing.
That was a horrible game for Marv and like everyone involved. Iirc it is over 500 pages long.
i would not trust a game with you as a host. I could just imagen you as a LHF (low hanging fruit) troll host.
BTW your username is worse then mine. It sounds like they guy who is on the airport with a suspect backpack and just get called out from the security on a side room
Supposed to be a pokemon that normally doesn't have much muscle actually being ripped
On May 30 2023 14:35 Alakaslam wrote: Like, Chezinu is a rare high IQ gentleman troll.
I am a common upper normal IQ asshole in that BMW that just cut you off in his aviators trust fund baby troll.
Holyflare was like that lawyer who was always across the bench from you.
Raynpelikoneer is like the guy who is really chill and cool until you look at him funny and then you find him everywhere asking how exactly you hold this nonsense logic? Do you really call it logic? Really? Come on. What do you actually believe, scum? When actually you got lazy and fucked up
Koshi is like Rayn but from Belgium, not Finland, so the cigarettes have been replaced with coffee and so he is posting like 10x more
Contrast this with Ver, Ace, Foolishness, Hapahauli (my birthdate twin, btw he is like 3 hours older than I am) Igrok, Conversion, Chezinu it is easy to see how the environment was... less great.
What was I slam i am sad to be left out of the analysis? ( although I only played around 30 games)
You were Darthpunk. Unfortunately, I remember you as one of those who didn't want to tolerate my brand of trolling. Young BMW punks call that "mean" but now that I am basically mean and self aware I don't want to call someone who I have found out is not that, that
Why do you vote on marv. Why him and not DP. What makes him so suspicious to you? And why not DP?
On May 30 2023 12:58 TankTopTiger wrote: You said you were pretty sure you could read him but your read comes down to "if he folds D1 he's mafia" and "if he folds later than this he's confirmed town"?
Ya he pretty much really only try hard as town only a few times he did he did try hard as mafia but it so rare though like Imperial. Imperial was the last game where he went full tryhard mode as mafia.
Oh God I hosted that thing.
That was a horrible game for Marv and like everyone involved. Iirc it is over 500 pages long.
i would not trust a game with you as a host. I could just imagen you as a LHF (low hanging fruit) troll host.
BTW your username is worse then mine. It sounds like they guy who is on the airport with a suspect backpack and just get called out from the security on a side room
Supposed to be a pokemon that normally doesn't have much muscle actually being ripped
Or just High Templar storming a mineral line
Or magic missile
While I was reading this post I was looking outside the window and saw something like a UFO. The weird thing was I could only saw it in 144p
😀
Excellence
It is so weird to step out of the shower and immediately hear clear gamer rage. My parents live next to one and their shower bathroom shares a wall with his office.
"Ahh."
-"FUCKING HEAL! OH MY GOD YOU SON OF A FUCKING BITCH! GOD!"
He works night shift so I wake up and prepare for the day during his gaming time. Lol
On May 31 2023 05:56 DarthPunk wrote: Marv if we are both town, first of all we are bad, but who is the scum team?
This is a genuine question I’m not trying to tunnel you here no matter the answer.
Cause I also know I am town, and am using poe to end up on you and ls as the scum team.
So who is it if I am town and you are??
I really don’t know. I’m 100% it’s not DMB. Slam and Chez you literally can never be too sure either way. But I haven’t spent the time I needed on any of TTT, Chez, Slam because I’ve been so sure on you.
If you are town this is going to be a difficult thing to get your head around, do we call a truce today and lynch LS? I have bed relatively soon so I kinda need to decide what I’m doing.
And I know I know I know asking someone who I’m apparently hard mafia reading if they want a truce is nuts. But LS is just mafia here.
On May 31 2023 05:56 DarthPunk wrote: Marv if we are both town, first of all we are bad, but who is the scum team?
This is a genuine question I’m not trying to tunnel you here no matter the answer.
Cause I also know I am town, and am using poe to end up on you and ls as the scum team.
So who is it if I am town and you are??
I really don’t know. I’m 100% it’s not DMB. Slam and Chez you literally can never be too sure either way. But I haven’t spent the time I needed on any of TTT, Chez, Slam because I’ve been so sure on you.
If you are town this is going to be a difficult thing to get your head around, do we call a truce today and lynch LS? I have bed relatively soon so I kinda need to decide what I’m doing.
And I know I know I know asking someone who I’m apparently hard mafia reading if they want a truce is nuts. But LS is just mafia here.
The problem is that I know I am town, and after the nk you are just going to get me lynched somehow. The only thing is that I am ope. To the fact that ego, paranoia, and different approaches are resulting I. Town on town violence. Like I do Think you could pull this off as maf, But maybe that is ok, cause I think meat can solve the game off I flip she seems very sharp. But if you flip green game is lost cause I’ll be next imo.
You literally have too much respect for me if you think I can make the posts I’ve made today as mafia.
Do you want to lynch mafia LS or not?
Do it stay the course worry about vets tomorrow let NK narrow it down
On May 31 2023 07:32 die_meatbaby wrote: did you (chez and alakaslam) actually read the last 5 pages that you missed or just like the last on?
I have been reading off and on while at work and also trying to read Koshi's filter but TTT is already right so I am looking into reading DP and Marv. I am lock certain town on Chezinu and TTT and You so to me it is definitely one of them- but AFTER LS.
If I had no power to change it, then obviously I wanted to have input between them. But when I fundamentally disagreed with what was happening on a policy level but didn't disagree with the idea entirely,