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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
September 03 2022 04:25 GMT
#1361
On September 03 2022 13:01 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2022 12:51 Mattchew wrote:
On September 03 2022 12:19 Rels wrote:
On September 02 2022 23:45 Mattchew wrote:
I also contextualized that mz flipping town helps clarify that theres little to no vote logic needing to be applied to the decon lynch as mafia would have been able to hide on any of the candidates without fear. It would also help read rels hammer play because mafia doing that when mz is town makes no sense.

Did you just TMI confirmed me town? Because I was scum, why would scum be able to move without fear? Even though the result ended up dec vs MZ, I ended up with 3 votes, just 1 shy of MZ - wouldn't have taken much for me to die (Jock that scumread me and dec to survive for example). So what you've said is only true if I'm town?

you had 20 minutes where you we firmly ok with 4/4/3 votes making it incredibly hard for a town wagon to occur on you if you were mafia. what i am saying is that in my opinion you did what your thought was best for the game regardless of the backlash it was going to put on you which i believe to be a very townie quality

Yeah I understand what you're saying about me. What I don't understand is why MZ's being dead proves anything regarding the votes, and it would be game changing to the point of you asking for MZ being vig'd.

It wasn't a 1v1, it was a 1v1v1. If you argument is "it was a 1v1, if both are town so we know scum can relax on the vote and probably only town participated in last minute switch" or something like that, then it doesn't work because it was not the situation. It was a 1v1v1, so that logic can only apply if all 3 of us are dead and flip town?

(regardless, I think it's also pretty weird to want his townread vig'd even if it was really a 1v1. I know you explained that one but I still find it very hard to understand)

the timing of your swap was a 1v1 imo. if mz is town it tells me that its even less likely you are mafia AND it benefits town greatly to know that vote logic on day 1 is basically meaningless as mafia could voted wherever the fuck they wanted
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
September 03 2022 04:26 GMT
#1362
So I'd like to know who Chez was looking for exactly.
Because it doesn't need a live game to figure it out from past posts
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
September 03 2022 04:26 GMT
#1363
On September 03 2022 13:12 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2022 13:05 Chezinu wrote:
On September 03 2022 13:03 Rels wrote:
On September 03 2022 12:23 Vivax wrote:
On September 03 2022 12:20 Rels wrote:
On September 03 2022 12:15 Vivax wrote:
What the fuck are you even doing with those posts
Thread was decent until someone thought I was in a crisis or something and now you‘re throwing a tantrum

me? Catching up the pages I missed, sorry if it's done badly? Some games I experimented with writing big catch up post but they ended up unreadable I think.
Pretty curious to see what you're talking about with a crisis lol


No it‘s all whining

whelp, it wasn't funny at the end
I don't know how much was fluff, but regardless, take care

Oooo that hidden threat


I'm quite confident in my surroundings

On June 12 2016 08:10 Shapelog wrote:
I swear I will talk to Zeus about this /outing!

He is nearing now, I can hear the rain coming into my body.

Well house but you get the point.

lol, clueless in The Prism!
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
September 03 2022 04:27 GMT
#1364
oh and if mz is mafia, then oh boy do we gain so much info and a dead mafia
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
September 03 2022 04:27 GMT
#1365
Chezinu transcends mafia and town. He exists in both. He already said so.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
September 03 2022 04:28 GMT
#1366
On September 03 2022 13:25 Vivax wrote:
Nice, an entire page of Chezinu - Rels


Ruined it.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 03 2022 04:29 GMT
#1367
Thanks Tube. Sorry I'm literally in my bed now so I won't read that properly until tomorrow. But thanks

To answer the question, for the first part, I think it's obvious from what I've said that I wasn't going to continue voting Slam. But I was hoping people would vote Dandel instead of Vivax or dec.

For the second part, it's simply I townread MZ more than dec. I think I wrote that already so more details are probably in my filter, but basically, at the time I thought MZ had a pretty townie opening D1 while for dec, I kinda thought he was townie but it was a pretty light read (he had pretty natural mindset and interactions, but when reading his posts in isolation, it was pretty content-less).
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 03 2022 04:29 GMT
#1368
Day Two Vote Count

Tubesock (5): Holyflare, Chezinu, Vivax, Alakaslam, Raynpelikoneet, Mattchew
Rels(3): Dandel Ion, Vivax, CopCake, Tubesock, Vivax
Dandel Ion (1): Rels
Mattchew (0): Vivax
Vivax (0): Rels,

Not Voting (3):Jockmcplop, Tubesock, Meapak_Ziphh

With 5 votes, Tubesock is currently set to be lynched!

The deadline is Saturday, Sep 03 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in

Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
September 03 2022 04:29 GMT
#1369
On September 03 2022 13:25 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2022 13:01 Rels wrote:
On September 03 2022 12:51 Mattchew wrote:
On September 03 2022 12:19 Rels wrote:
On September 02 2022 23:45 Mattchew wrote:
I also contextualized that mz flipping town helps clarify that theres little to no vote logic needing to be applied to the decon lynch as mafia would have been able to hide on any of the candidates without fear. It would also help read rels hammer play because mafia doing that when mz is town makes no sense.

Did you just TMI confirmed me town? Because I was scum, why would scum be able to move without fear? Even though the result ended up dec vs MZ, I ended up with 3 votes, just 1 shy of MZ - wouldn't have taken much for me to die (Jock that scumread me and dec to survive for example). So what you've said is only true if I'm town?

you had 20 minutes where you we firmly ok with 4/4/3 votes making it incredibly hard for a town wagon to occur on you if you were mafia. what i am saying is that in my opinion you did what your thought was best for the game regardless of the backlash it was going to put on you which i believe to be a very townie quality

Yeah I understand what you're saying about me. What I don't understand is why MZ's being dead proves anything regarding the votes, and it would be game changing to the point of you asking for MZ being vig'd.

It wasn't a 1v1, it was a 1v1v1. If you argument is "it was a 1v1, if both are town so we know scum can relax on the vote and probably only town participated in last minute switch" or something like that, then it doesn't work because it was not the situation. It was a 1v1v1, so that logic can only apply if all 3 of us are dead and flip town?

(regardless, I think it's also pretty weird to want his townread vig'd even if it was really a 1v1. I know you explained that one but I still find it very hard to understand)

the timing of your swap was a 1v1 imo. if mz is town it tells me that its even less likely you are mafia AND it benefits town greatly to know that vote logic on day 1 is basically meaningless as mafia could voted wherever the fuck they wanted


Why doesn't it just mean he voted to save his life? Why wouldn't he do that no matter his alignment and no matter who the other wagon is?
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
September 03 2022 04:29 GMT
#1370
On September 03 2022 13:28 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2022 13:25 Vivax wrote:
Nice, an entire page of Chezinu - Rels


Ruined it.

For Rels
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
September 03 2022 04:31 GMT
#1371
On September 03 2022 13:28 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2022 13:25 Vivax wrote:
Nice, an entire page of Chezinu - Rels


Ruined it.


Well, I'm not infallible. Often slothful, and I've pulled an all nighter after a night out.
Interestingly a bit of alcohol helps
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
September 03 2022 04:32 GMT
#1372
On September 03 2022 13:31 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2022 13:28 Tubesock wrote:
On September 03 2022 13:25 Vivax wrote:
Nice, an entire page of Chezinu - Rels


Ruined it.


Well, I'm not infallible. Often slothful, and I've pulled an all nighter after a night out.
Interestingly a bit of alcohol helps


Meant I did.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
September 03 2022 04:33 GMT
#1373
On September 03 2022 13:31 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2022 13:28 Tubesock wrote:
On September 03 2022 13:25 Vivax wrote:
Nice, an entire page of Chezinu - Rels


Ruined it.


Well, I'm not infallible. Often slothful, and I've pulled an all nighter after a night out.
Interestingly a bit of alcohol helps


I'm your #2 right? After Rels? Who's 3rd? I'll vote them lol
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
September 03 2022 04:33 GMT
#1374
On September 03 2022 13:32 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2022 13:31 Vivax wrote:
On September 03 2022 13:28 Tubesock wrote:
On September 03 2022 13:25 Vivax wrote:
Nice, an entire page of Chezinu - Rels


Ruined it.


Well, I'm not infallible. Often slothful, and I've pulled an all nighter after a night out.
Interestingly a bit of alcohol helps


Meant I did.


Will you?
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
September 03 2022 04:35 GMT
#1375
On September 03 2022 13:29 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2022 13:25 Mattchew wrote:
On September 03 2022 13:01 Rels wrote:
On September 03 2022 12:51 Mattchew wrote:
On September 03 2022 12:19 Rels wrote:
On September 02 2022 23:45 Mattchew wrote:
I also contextualized that mz flipping town helps clarify that theres little to no vote logic needing to be applied to the decon lynch as mafia would have been able to hide on any of the candidates without fear. It would also help read rels hammer play because mafia doing that when mz is town makes no sense.

Did you just TMI confirmed me town? Because I was scum, why would scum be able to move without fear? Even though the result ended up dec vs MZ, I ended up with 3 votes, just 1 shy of MZ - wouldn't have taken much for me to die (Jock that scumread me and dec to survive for example). So what you've said is only true if I'm town?

you had 20 minutes where you we firmly ok with 4/4/3 votes making it incredibly hard for a town wagon to occur on you if you were mafia. what i am saying is that in my opinion you did what your thought was best for the game regardless of the backlash it was going to put on you which i believe to be a very townie quality

Yeah I understand what you're saying about me. What I don't understand is why MZ's being dead proves anything regarding the votes, and it would be game changing to the point of you asking for MZ being vig'd.

It wasn't a 1v1, it was a 1v1v1. If you argument is "it was a 1v1, if both are town so we know scum can relax on the vote and probably only town participated in last minute switch" or something like that, then it doesn't work because it was not the situation. It was a 1v1v1, so that logic can only apply if all 3 of us are dead and flip town?

(regardless, I think it's also pretty weird to want his townread vig'd even if it was really a 1v1. I know you explained that one but I still find it very hard to understand)

the timing of your swap was a 1v1 imo. if mz is town it tells me that its even less likely you are mafia AND it benefits town greatly to know that vote logic on day 1 is basically meaningless as mafia could voted wherever the fuck they wanted


Why doesn't it just mean he voted to save his life? Why wouldn't he do that no matter his alignment and no matter who the other wagon is?

save his life from what? 10 min before lynch he was fine (he was the only vote after this post)
+ Show Spoiler +

On September 01 2022 02:50 Grackaroni wrote:
Day One Vote Count

Meapak_Ziphh (4): Holyflare, Vivax, CopCake, Alakaslam, Vivax, Deconduo
Deconduo (4): Jockmcplop, Alakaslam, Jockmcplop, Meapak_Ziphh, Tubesock
Rels(3): Koshi, Deconduo, Tubesock, Dandel Ion, Alakaslam, Jockmcplop, Raynpelikoneet
Raynpelikoneet(1): Mattchew
Alakaslam (1): Rels
CopCake (1): Rels, Chezinu
Chezinu(0): Alakaslam
Dandel Ion (0): Jockmcplop
Vivax (0): Jockmcplop, Meapak_Ziphh, Alakaslam


Not Voting (0):

With 4 votes, Meapak_Ziphh is currently set to be lynched!

Please let me know if you notice any mistakes

The deadline is Wednesday, Aug 31 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in


There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
September 03 2022 04:37 GMT
#1376
The parity cop will help us if we lynch the right target. Something to chew on.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
September 03 2022 04:40 GMT
#1377
On September 02 2022 02:42 Mattchew wrote:
Lazy reads only eon post:

Town: koshi rels hf

Town but should be vig shot: mz

Scummies: rayn, cc, tube, slam

lol, clueless in The Prism!
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
September 03 2022 04:40 GMT
#1378
On September 03 2022 13:35 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2022 13:29 Tubesock wrote:
On September 03 2022 13:25 Mattchew wrote:
On September 03 2022 13:01 Rels wrote:
On September 03 2022 12:51 Mattchew wrote:
On September 03 2022 12:19 Rels wrote:
On September 02 2022 23:45 Mattchew wrote:
I also contextualized that mz flipping town helps clarify that theres little to no vote logic needing to be applied to the decon lynch as mafia would have been able to hide on any of the candidates without fear. It would also help read rels hammer play because mafia doing that when mz is town makes no sense.

Did you just TMI confirmed me town? Because I was scum, why would scum be able to move without fear? Even though the result ended up dec vs MZ, I ended up with 3 votes, just 1 shy of MZ - wouldn't have taken much for me to die (Jock that scumread me and dec to survive for example). So what you've said is only true if I'm town?

you had 20 minutes where you we firmly ok with 4/4/3 votes making it incredibly hard for a town wagon to occur on you if you were mafia. what i am saying is that in my opinion you did what your thought was best for the game regardless of the backlash it was going to put on you which i believe to be a very townie quality

Yeah I understand what you're saying about me. What I don't understand is why MZ's being dead proves anything regarding the votes, and it would be game changing to the point of you asking for MZ being vig'd.

It wasn't a 1v1, it was a 1v1v1. If you argument is "it was a 1v1, if both are town so we know scum can relax on the vote and probably only town participated in last minute switch" or something like that, then it doesn't work because it was not the situation. It was a 1v1v1, so that logic can only apply if all 3 of us are dead and flip town?

(regardless, I think it's also pretty weird to want his townread vig'd even if it was really a 1v1. I know you explained that one but I still find it very hard to understand)

the timing of your swap was a 1v1 imo. if mz is town it tells me that its even less likely you are mafia AND it benefits town greatly to know that vote logic on day 1 is basically meaningless as mafia could voted wherever the fuck they wanted


Why doesn't it just mean he voted to save his life? Why wouldn't he do that no matter his alignment and no matter who the other wagon is?

save his life from what? 10 min before lynch he was fine (he was the only vote after this post)
+ Show Spoiler +

On September 01 2022 02:50 Grackaroni wrote:
Day One Vote Count

Meapak_Ziphh (4): Holyflare, Vivax, CopCake, Alakaslam, Vivax, Deconduo
Deconduo (4): Jockmcplop, Alakaslam, Jockmcplop, Meapak_Ziphh, Tubesock
Rels(3): Koshi, Deconduo, Tubesock, Dandel Ion, Alakaslam, Jockmcplop, Raynpelikoneet
Raynpelikoneet(1): Mattchew
Alakaslam (1): Rels
CopCake (1): Rels, Chezinu
Chezinu(0): Alakaslam
Dandel Ion (0): Jockmcplop
Vivax (0): Jockmcplop, Meapak_Ziphh, Alakaslam


Not Voting (0):

With 4 votes, Meapak_Ziphh is currently set to be lynched!

Please let me know if you notice any mistakes

The deadline is Wednesday, Aug 31 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in




Yeah you right. Not sure what I was thinking.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
September 03 2022 04:40 GMT
#1379
On September 03 2022 13:37 Chezinu wrote:
The parity cop will help us if we lynch the right target. Something to chew on.


##Unvote
##Vote mattchew

When is enough enough for you, mr. radiologist? I figured it out while playing during these months, with sabotage abound
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
September 03 2022 04:42 GMT
#1380
Let me know if you need a collage of posts to prove it if you haven't been checking
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