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On August 31 2022 13:01 Mattchew wrote:
man i do not like either of mz or rels. rels made a really good point about rayn that has me super questioning my read on him, his emotional manipulation would be HELLA bitch made if he was mafia doing that. the only person i like on the Rels train is koshi and the only person i like on the MZ train is HF (but he may be pocketing me TBD)
Here he thinks both Rels and MZ are mafia. Okay.
Then he says what Rels says about me makes him super questioning his scumread on me.
That's his last post Day 1.
On September 01 2022 07:09 Mattchew wrote:
Reading up on the past 20ish pages, felt to me like we had 3 town wagons and that the people moving votes around towards the end were more likely town then mafia. This opinion is completely based in the fact that i think mz is town. If i am correct, it would have been incredibly easy for mafia to hide votes scattered amongst dec mz rels. The only person heavily posting at the end of day that i didnt like was slam.
Slam why are you being so lazy
Then this happens on N1.
BOTH Rels and MZ are now town??? There is no explanation at at all. Nada, otehr than that "people changed votes". Seriously? :D And that is based on MZ being town whoduring D1 was still mafia. And then the same shit that Rels did. I assume MZ is town so that makes it easy to mafia to hide so as people changed votes it means MZ is town. Circular reasoning much?
On September 01 2022 08:43 Mattchew wrote:
Shooting mz is best
Mz is mafia, a. A mafia is ded and the people voting him are probably town cause the guts to stay on that bus is just too great for me to fathom
B. Mz is town and while we get significantly less vote logic we atleast dont head into day 2 distracted by how yesterdays lynch and votes and connections are made.
But matt, you think mz is town, yes but i am not nearly good or smart enough to think i am absolutely right or that i feel strong enough about my day 1 read to warrant keeping someone that could be an easy mafia tunnel/mafia member alive
Then he wants to shoot his townread. It doesn't even make any sense because he hasn't told who is mafia if MZ flips town.
On September 02 2022 02:42 Mattchew wrote:
Lazy reads only eon post:
Town: koshi rels hf
Town but should be vig shot: mz
Scummies: rayn, cc, tube, slam
Here again he goes pretty much back to what was like 4 days ago. But MZ and Rels has now gone to town pile because people changed votes and that makes all the wagons town somehow.
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On September 02 2022 23:42 Mattchew wrote:
Just saying that first quote you context’d wrong. When i said i didnt like them it was referring to that i didnt like the lynch on them
Okay that makes more sense.
But can i still interpret it as i want regardless of the explanation and also call you mafia for doing jack shit about the lynch late D1? I mean you're doing exactly that to me.
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On September 03 2022 01:41 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2022 00:34 Mattchew wrote:On September 02 2022 23:45 Vivax wrote:
Good stuff, rayn. Have an axe
Do you also carry a hunting knife at all times when driving like I've been told Finns do?
##Unvote
##Vote: mattchew Has this been altered at all by my recent posts Not really. But you vibe like Beethoven
oh my god i have to do this:
+ Show Spoiler +![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/LE4j4rM.jpg) Such a baller that Beethoven guy
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On September 03 2022 04:39 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2022 04:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On September 02 2022 04:30 Alakaslam wrote:On September 02 2022 04:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm flying tonight so I won't be around much for the next 18 hours or so but I'll try and stay caught up reading the thread.
I'll have the previously promised thoughts on vivax/dandel and some thoughts on tubesock/mattchew when I'm back at my computer. Holy shit where you going, Japan? Korea? To USA or Canada from something like that? Nah it was just a routine training flight but it requires 3 hours of planning, 3 hours of briefing, 4 hours of flying, 2 hours of debriefing, and then I went to sleep. Slept longer than anticipated but I don't work today so I'll actually have some time to comb through the game. You flightcrew? I fly the L100
I am jealous. When i went to mandatory army service i applied for both air force and navy but because my last name is so low on the list alphabetically i didn't even get a response from either. So instead i did something i can't speak of. :D
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On September 03 2022 05:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2022 04:39 Tubesock wrote:On September 03 2022 04:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On September 02 2022 04:30 Alakaslam wrote:On September 02 2022 04:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm flying tonight so I won't be around much for the next 18 hours or so but I'll try and stay caught up reading the thread.
I'll have the previously promised thoughts on vivax/dandel and some thoughts on tubesock/mattchew when I'm back at my computer. Holy shit where you going, Japan? Korea? To USA or Canada from something like that? Nah it was just a routine training flight but it requires 3 hours of planning, 3 hours of briefing, 4 hours of flying, 2 hours of debriefing, and then I went to sleep. Slept longer than anticipated but I don't work today so I'll actually have some time to comb through the game. You flightcrew? I fly the L100 I am jealous. When i went to mandatory army service i applied for both air force and navy but because my last name is so low on the list alphabetically i didn't even get a response from either. So instead i did something i can't speak of. :D
I mean i 100% fit all physicals, vision, shit like that for either (at the time at least).
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On September 03 2022 05:47 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2022 05:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 03 2022 05:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 03 2022 04:39 Tubesock wrote:On September 03 2022 04:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On September 02 2022 04:30 Alakaslam wrote:On September 02 2022 04:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm flying tonight so I won't be around much for the next 18 hours or so but I'll try and stay caught up reading the thread.
I'll have the previously promised thoughts on vivax/dandel and some thoughts on tubesock/mattchew when I'm back at my computer. Holy shit where you going, Japan? Korea? To USA or Canada from something like that? Nah it was just a routine training flight but it requires 3 hours of planning, 3 hours of briefing, 4 hours of flying, 2 hours of debriefing, and then I went to sleep. Slept longer than anticipated but I don't work today so I'll actually have some time to comb through the game. You flightcrew? I fly the L100 I am jealous. When i went to mandatory army service i applied for both air force and navy but because my last name is so low on the list alphabetically i didn't even get a response from either. So instead i did something i can't speak of. :D I mean i 100% fit all physicals, vision, shit like that for either (at the time at least). So are you just going to read my case?
I have read it but it's not my job to respond it. It's MZ's job.
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On September 03 2022 05:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2022 05:47 CopCake wrote:On September 03 2022 05:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 03 2022 05:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 03 2022 04:39 Tubesock wrote:On September 03 2022 04:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On September 02 2022 04:30 Alakaslam wrote:On September 02 2022 04:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm flying tonight so I won't be around much for the next 18 hours or so but I'll try and stay caught up reading the thread.
I'll have the previously promised thoughts on vivax/dandel and some thoughts on tubesock/mattchew when I'm back at my computer. Holy shit where you going, Japan? Korea? To USA or Canada from something like that? Nah it was just a routine training flight but it requires 3 hours of planning, 3 hours of briefing, 4 hours of flying, 2 hours of debriefing, and then I went to sleep. Slept longer than anticipated but I don't work today so I'll actually have some time to comb through the game. You flightcrew? I fly the L100 I am jealous. When i went to mandatory army service i applied for both air force and navy but because my last name is so low on the list alphabetically i didn't even get a response from either. So instead i did something i can't speak of. :D I mean i 100% fit all physicals, vision, shit like that for either (at the time at least). So are you just going to read my case? I'm not responding to your case btw, you are so hopelessly tunneled onto me that nothing is going to change your mind. I also am still pretty sure you're scum so it's not really worth my time.
You actually should, if you are town. She cannot be tunneled and mafia at the same time, so you need to pick one.
Even if you think she is mafia i think you should respond because it takes away her guns if she is actually mafia or she needs to do something else (if youre town) that might give her up.
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On September 03 2022 05:57 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2022 05:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 03 2022 05:47 CopCake wrote:On September 03 2022 05:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 03 2022 05:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 03 2022 04:39 Tubesock wrote:On September 03 2022 04:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On September 02 2022 04:30 Alakaslam wrote:On September 02 2022 04:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm flying tonight so I won't be around much for the next 18 hours or so but I'll try and stay caught up reading the thread.
I'll have the previously promised thoughts on vivax/dandel and some thoughts on tubesock/mattchew when I'm back at my computer. Holy shit where you going, Japan? Korea? To USA or Canada from something like that? Nah it was just a routine training flight but it requires 3 hours of planning, 3 hours of briefing, 4 hours of flying, 2 hours of debriefing, and then I went to sleep. Slept longer than anticipated but I don't work today so I'll actually have some time to comb through the game. You flightcrew? I fly the L100 I am jealous. When i went to mandatory army service i applied for both air force and navy but because my last name is so low on the list alphabetically i didn't even get a response from either. So instead i did something i can't speak of. :D I mean i 100% fit all physicals, vision, shit like that for either (at the time at least). So are you just going to read my case? I have read it but it's not my job to respond it. It's MZ's job. How are we going to solve the game if only the people I acuse need to answer?
At least i am going to look at who is answering who. I think all questions asked from you should be answered. Unless they are pointless, in which case the person should make a case why it's pointless to ask that. Because mafia usually asks useless questions.
So don't be so self-defeatist, at least i am watching this thing and looking closely on the people who let MZ go for any reason d1 -> d2.
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On a not-so-side-note, here is some food for thought:
How does anyone not voting for Tubesock justify voting for anyone else.
- Tubesock had Rels and MZ as top mafia D1 (deconduo is not a scumread)
- There was a time (near EoD) when Koshi, Dandel, rayn -- all of Tube's townreads are voting for Rels
- Without any contribution towards anything, he chooses to vote for deconduo over EITHER Rels or MZ when those are the wagons to choose from
- Tubesock has apparently no intention to clarify his voting behaviour at all
How is Tubesock not mafia over ANYONE else in the game? Don't be fucking stupid now people, this is like 100% mafia behaviour 100% of the time.
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On September 03 2022 06:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2022 05:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 03 2022 05:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On September 03 2022 05:47 CopCake wrote:On September 03 2022 05:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 03 2022 05:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 03 2022 04:39 Tubesock wrote:On September 03 2022 04:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On September 02 2022 04:30 Alakaslam wrote:On September 02 2022 04:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm flying tonight so I won't be around much for the next 18 hours or so but I'll try and stay caught up reading the thread.
I'll have the previously promised thoughts on vivax/dandel and some thoughts on tubesock/mattchew when I'm back at my computer. Holy shit where you going, Japan? Korea? To USA or Canada from something like that? Nah it was just a routine training flight but it requires 3 hours of planning, 3 hours of briefing, 4 hours of flying, 2 hours of debriefing, and then I went to sleep. Slept longer than anticipated but I don't work today so I'll actually have some time to comb through the game. You flightcrew? I fly the L100 I am jealous. When i went to mandatory army service i applied for both air force and navy but because my last name is so low on the list alphabetically i didn't even get a response from either. So instead i did something i can't speak of. :D I mean i 100% fit all physicals, vision, shit like that for either (at the time at least). So are you just going to read my case? I'm not responding to your case btw, you are so hopelessly tunneled onto me that nothing is going to change your mind. I also am still pretty sure you're scum so it's not really worth my time. You actually should, if you are town. She cannot be tunneled and mafia at the same time, so you need to pick one. Even if you think she is mafia i think you should respond because it takes away her guns if she is actually mafia or she needs to do something else (if youre town) that might give her up. Think about it, they have done exactly one thing this game which is tunnel me, same with dandel tunneling rels. People write it off as bad town play but it's such an easy excuse for scum.
You mean Cake tunneling you or Dandel tunneling Rels? Or both?
Because i think Dandel is tunneling for the right reasons and Cake is not.
You seem to be believing that both of them are scum because they tunnel, am i correct?
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You should probably try to explain why your vote ended up on where it did if you are town Tube.
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On September 03 2022 06:57 Tubesock wrote:
I don't time to pull the quotes now but basically I was waffling on how scummy I htought him throwing out an accusation and then a post or so later "oh here it checks out ok, oopsies nevermind". It looked like trying to manufacture progression. But then I was waffling and thinking I've seen town people do that type of thing before.
And really Decon wasn't doing anything so I really didn't care who died between the 3. (MZ, Rels, or Decon)
So you waffled on Rels as per your words, why not MZ?
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On September 03 2022 07:04 Tubesock wrote:
I wouldn't have gone to MZ.
After D1 I started reading MZ as town. Now he's pretty solidly town.
I am pretty sure that's not what you did, because you said you didn't.
Like here:
On August 31 2022 13:15 Tubesock wrote:
my vote preference is Rels, MZ, Vivax, Chezinu.
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I mean "I wouldn't have gone to MZ."
Why? AFTER d1 doesnt matter here since we are talking about exactly D1.
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On September 03 2022 07:26 Tubesock wrote:
I can't post them now, but they start with the above. And just look at MZ's last like 5 probably are applicable as well.
But they start from N1, which does not excuse you of what you did before that (D1)...
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I mean, the post you quote from MZ is 5 minutes before deadline.
You have already decided to vote for deconduo like a half an hour ago, so how is this a reason "i didn't vote for MZ"?
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On September 03 2022 07:33 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2022 02:55 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On September 01 2022 02:52 Alakaslam wrote:On September 01 2022 02:51 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On September 01 2022 02:48 Alakaslam wrote:On September 01 2022 02:48 Rels wrote:
BTW Slam is so town it's crazy TBH tubesock's vote is giving me the chills regarding this Deconduo lynch I think it is tubesock Why? If rels is town as you believe, why would mafia tube switch his vote? Fun is also a factor in this game I mean sure but there's absolutely no reason for scum to be a part of last second lynch shenanigans unless they've got a team member involved. Regardless of who dies today (me, decon, or rels) everyone active at the deadline who switched votes will be under a microscope regardless of how the flips go. I just don't see scum getting involved without reason unless they're playing a power scum game and I definitely don't get that vibe from tube. Since I think rels is town, it doesn't make sense for scum to switch off of them. This string.
yes and you voted for deconduo half an hour ago so this possibly cannot be the reason you didnt want to vote for MZ in the first place.
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unless you see the future ofc. is that what you claim?
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On September 03 2022 07:38 Tubesock wrote:
I don't think I understand what you're even really asking.
1) I vote Rels
1.5)MZ is a wagon
2)Slam starts Shenannies and goes to Decon
3)I go Decon
At that point if the shenany wagon decided to go to MZ I don't think I would have. I would have gone back to Rels. For whatever reason I think MZ is mafia still at the beginning of night. I reread and think more and then I understand that mafia just wouldn't gain anything by defending my switch.
I don't know or care about what you would do "in case". As it doesn't really matter.
What i do know is that you had Rels and MZ as top mafia D1 and deconduo was not a scumread of yours at that point.
Then you vote for deconduo OVER your scumreads Rels and MZ.
The only explanation for this you give is based on AFTER you placed your vote on deconduo.
I dont buy it.
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