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On September 01 2022 04:09 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2022 03:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On September 01 2022 03:36 Holyflare wrote:
Did you comment on Slam or Tube at all? It's not really cool to talk down to people for not being here when you haven't even interacted with stuff that was brought up when you weren't around either.
Please do that at your earliest convenience. Alright sweet you're not reading the thread. As I previously said, I can't read slam. But I can't for the life of me figure a scenario where slam hard defends rels and is scum. Decon dies and flips town, now slam is under suspicion for lynching town. If Rels is scum and dies, now slam is under suspicion for defending flipped scum. No matter what happens, slam puts himself under a microscope which is not where scum want to be. The simplest solution is that slam is town, townread rels, and didn't want to lynch him. While tube puts himself under less pressure than slam, he also participates in the eod vote switching, which if the lynch was really town v town v town as I suspect since I'm still town reading rels, I just don't see why scum tube would get involved. Far easier to sit back and wait for the deadline to pass and then hop in with excuses. And believe me, I work too. I got 5 hours of sleep so I could be around at the deadline and I'm about to leave for work again. These games happen so rarely around here now I was kinda hoping people were going to put in more effort. Why would mafia not want to save mafia? That's a bit of a stretch? Also, I have read. I think "not being able to read slam" is a cop out. You can disassociate the name and still interact with points made against him. The rest is okay, thanks 
I mean sure, scum slam and scum rels is possible but that's some extremely active scum play from both of them and if it fails they essentially lose 2 for one since slam is now playing his cards face up having hard defended a flipped red rels. I just don't see it at all.
I agree it's a cop out but it's what I've got. And why the scope of what I'm talking about with slam is purely in the context of what happened at the deadline.
Sorry for being a jackass.
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I'm flying tonight so I won't be around much for the next 18 hours or so but I'll try and stay caught up reading the thread.
I'll have the previously promised thoughts on vivax/dandel and some thoughts on tubesock/mattchew when I'm back at my computer.
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Alright I'm back, I'll pick things up from my last couple of posts.
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On September 02 2022 04:30 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2022 04:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm flying tonight so I won't be around much for the next 18 hours or so but I'll try and stay caught up reading the thread.
I'll have the previously promised thoughts on vivax/dandel and some thoughts on tubesock/mattchew when I'm back at my computer. Holy shit where you going, Japan? Korea? To USA or Canada from something like that?
Nah it was just a routine training flight but it requires 3 hours of planning, 3 hours of briefing, 4 hours of flying, 2 hours of debriefing, and then I went to sleep. Slept longer than anticipated but I don't work today so I'll actually have some time to comb through the game.
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Let's start back here
On September 01 2022 03:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I also need to look at Dandel, I wanna compare him and Vivax because in my head right now they're playing fairly similarly.
So since I've been gone, it seem as though vivax has started trying a lot harder. Minor town points to everyone who said that would happen.
This entertains me:
On September 02 2022 12:32 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2022 03:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I also need to look at Dandel, I wanna compare him and Vivax because in my head right now they're playing fairly similarly. This is town Because it's correctI've gotten soft tbh, but I already mentioned it earlier, it was just hard to get Show nested quote +On September 01 2022 18:52 Vivax wrote:On September 01 2022 03:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I also need to look at Dandel, I wanna compare him and Vivax because in my head right now they're playing fairly similarly. loool, how can you ever think thisMy new town meta: One scum to pocket, two to casually ping Pretend this is correct, or tops 2 On August 31 2022 21:19 Vivax wrote:
I‘ll just assume 3 mafia
180ing on MZ
It‘s tube, jock, MZ imo If it's 2/3, replace with ??? ??? being Dandel Who then claimed doc Nevertheless, I have to filter Koshi postmortem
My read on vivax has pretty much been swayed by the following 3 posts that all happened in a row
+ Show Spoiler +On September 02 2022 11:48 Vivax wrote:
I think Chez and Slam are town
HF, Rayn, Rels, copcake all town
MZ, TS, Jock, Dandel the PoE
Nothing‘s changed from D1
I‘m on Rels for nonsense reasons for the offchance Dandel is scum and it gives him a glimmer of hope
Did I forget anyone? I agree with HF and Rayn town reads, I agree with the jock and Dandel suspicions. I don't know about Jock aside from disliking his play early on, and I've still got copcake as scum. On September 02 2022 11:59 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2022 11:52 Rels wrote:On September 02 2022 11:48 Vivax wrote:
I think Chez and Slam are town
HF, Rayn, Rels, copcake all town
MZ, TS, Jock, Dandel the PoE
Nothing‘s changed from D1
I‘m on Rels for nonsense reasons for the offchance Dandel is scum and it gives him a glimmer of hope
Did I forget anyone? Welcome back to the game mate What do you mean, nothing's changed from D1? Maybe you had random lists here and there but I don't remember a single reasoning? What are your reasons for, like, all of these? :p Especially Chez TBH? TS had a mediator kind of post I mentioned while rayn was around. Also lacked suspicion on MZ (suggests mz town) Chez latest lists make sense if he‘s assuming me or HF could be bussing two mates Jock just had the look of trying too hard early game with the quote chain + one-liner for each quote post (I did it later in same style while purely shitposting) Dandel made a massive case post on the wrong person (deco) when I threatened to death ray a scum, but also kinda ignored MZ Basically, I look for the guys who do just more than the ones doing barely anything or shitposting I agree with this post almost in its entirety. Still don't know about the tubesock stuff but a lot of my townreads are voting him so I'll have some more thoughts in my post about him and matt. On September 02 2022 12:09 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2022 21:45 Dandel Ion wrote:
Rels, just read along in his filter if you will I'm going chronological on this
#529 rayn and koshi top town, votes copcake and floats jock and slam
as per #533 copcake is a sheep off koshi
that all looks fine so far, no?
#534, #535, #537 is the first instance of what I mean. HF wasn't tunneling but hey maybe he was tunneling after all.
This is meant to look like progression but it's actually just nothing.
#542 towncases copcake
next saga
#543 vivax and dandel deserve to be shot
#544 because we're both 'useless'
then
#548 Slam is scummy
#553 actually he has no idea how to read Slam and his filter is not alignment indicative for him. HF's case does not make Slam scum. But Slam's posts still 'feel kind of fabricated'.
back on an old horse
#555 I'm just reacting to jock, which implies jock is leading and driving the conversation and I'm just being pulled along, however,
#556 + #557 Jock is still the one looking like mafia here, somehow because it "seems that you want to grab an easy win while fearing to be too obvious"
When his own argument to dismiss me is that jock drove the entire conversation. But that can not possibly be townie because professional fencesitter Rels needs more pointy bits of wood to park his ass.
#558 notably directly after the above, asks Vivax to participate, probably in full trust that Vivax will not, in fact do that. And you can always point back and go 'bad meanie Vivax didn't want to talk to me, big sad so scum'. This is just set-up for a future push and in no way can Rels actually think this would help him in reading Vivax.
But then, it's not really about trying to figure out who is town and who is scum, just who is 'pushable' and how believable these pushes are.
Going along
#562 Jock was just looking for an easy way to fabricate a scumread
When jock points out that he didn't, #569 comes to the rescue because that certainly does not prove that Rels is WRONG. It could totally be except he caps the post off by weakening his own stance to 'just a counter-example, not proof'.
Yo for real my fence is breaking under the weight of this man.
YO IT'S MY HOMEBOI DECONDUO UP IN HEA
#573 "hahahaha =D" jock's decon case is unconvincing but Rels will re-read it.
I assume it's not terrible because he doesn't post about it further just asks about it in #578
instead
#576 jock is just so scummy holy shit guyse
#579 Rels is now voting Slam
#583 decon's vote on Rels is "bad :p"
#584 Slam is the preferred lynch
#586 actually, decon is super natural, and yeah sure there's little 'substance' but for no discernable reason deconduo deserves completely different treatment than Vivax or Dandel did when decon is essentially the same slot.
Decon is mafia with Rels calling it here, especially since
#587 in Rels' townreads, decon suddenly doesn't appear at all! Wowzers! idk fam the last post sure read like a supposed townread to me but what do I know
#588 PoE, decon is in here because Rels remembered his own strategy I assume. But Vivax should be lynched over him (or Tube/Matt) anyway, funny how that works out. Whoever's not there is supposed to be scum I guess, idk. So me/Slam/jock but Rels doesn't have the cojones to actually call out a scumteam with both me and jock on it because he knows how insane and wrong that will sound to anybody.
The only player Rels bothers to fake a shred of progression on is Copcake.
That's literally it. Nothing on nobody else really means anything to this man.
Rels is mafia and as a tight little bonus i'm pretty sure that if he flips red decon is the next scum.
This one is scummy, also post numbers wtf. So much token effort all over it Show nested quote +On August 31 2022 09:08 Tubesock wrote:
That's how Rayn scumhunts. He looks at what HE expects people to think or do if they're town and if they don't meet that then he thinks they're mafia. Not sure why he got so triggered just now but meh.
He's not really talking game mechanics like you're saying it. Mediator post, scum feeling bad at thread atmosphere getting heated Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 03:20 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 03:02 Dandel Ion wrote:
I do wish to be a replacement Strange way to start. Why? On August 30 2022 03:04 deconduo wrote:
So we are definitely lynching Chezinu D1 right? Probably not no. I'm hoping he makes more funny videos. On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb Wait are you claiming mafia or am i misunderstanding? On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:I'm town I believe you 100%.** On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb What? I didn't get it either. On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:I'm town Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? Not you? **this opinion may be subject to change without notice and at any time. Jock posting like this among his first three posts, also pinging Dandel like that already ew. They never learn And lastly I like this post too, particularly the bit about dandel because that was how I read that monstrosity of a post the first time I saw it. Vivax is also pretty much in line with my thoughts on jock here too.
So with all that said, I'm not interested in lynching vivax right away anymore. His activity has improved and his reads are decent although not 100% in line with what I'm seeing.
Dandel on the other hand has not improved.
All Dandel has done is tunnel Rels. This seems like a pretty easy move for scum to make given how the lynch went down EOD, Rels is an easy target for a lazy scum to tunnel. And lazy is the best way to describe this play, except for one massive "quote everything rels has ever said" post, dandel hasn't done much by the way of explaining why Rels is scum except for repeat that rels doesn't "progress his reads." Dandel also seems to be breadcrumbing a blue role in such a heavy handed manner it feels more like a scum who is looking to set up a claim later in the game and isn't afraid of getting shot at night.
Bonus dandel tunnel posts
+ Show Spoiler +On September 01 2022 20:08 Dandel Ion wrote:
rels is still mafia btw On September 02 2022 03:16 Dandel Ion wrote:
I am literally only tunneling rels and you have no chance to sway me off him. On September 02 2022 03:16 Dandel Ion wrote:
so best you just lynch rels with me. On September 02 2022 03:20 Dandel Ion wrote:
My NK interpretation is that Rels is mafia. On September 02 2022 20:29 Dandel Ion wrote:Rels, le mafia Show nested quote +On August 31 2022 23:25 Rels wrote:On August 31 2022 21:45 Dandel Ion wrote:
[..]
The only player Rels bothers to fake a shred of progression on is Copcake.
That's literally it. Nothing on nobody else really means anything to this man.
Rels is mafia and as a tight little bonus i'm pretty sure that if he flips red decon is the next scum.
What a shitty case :p Of course I didn't have progression. I was only active for a few hours, during which noone was there apart from Jock. And talking to Jock made me progress too, as said above. Why would I suddenly change my reads on people in the 2 or so hours I was there and those people didn't do anything new? "Of course" not having progression is a completely bullshit argument and it's insulting that people bought it. Thinking is not contingent on other people being there. My whole point is that Rels has talked about situations and people over multiple posts, when he in reality did only the workload of making a list. For what purpose, then, did he need to make multiple posts one may ask? Because he wants to look like he's working more and towards solving the game. When in reality the answers were set beforehand. The reason to make another post about the same subject would be because one had a new thought not expressed already. Rels has no new thoughts however. Because Rels is mafia and already knew where he wanted to be on people. ##Vote Rels again On September 02 2022 20:37 Dandel Ion wrote:
I guess Rels wanted people to forget about his vote so bad he also did
^this was progression On September 02 2022 20:38 Dandel Ion wrote:
I'm progressing into many different ways of reading Rels as mafia On September 02 2022 20:38 Dandel Ion wrote:
Because Rels is mafia On September 02 2022 20:43 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2022 13:00 Chezinu wrote:On September 02 2022 12:58 Rels wrote:
Good night! For Rels It really was I have obtained information Rels is not actually interested in the island. He will attempt to leave in secret, with only his select few friends... On September 02 2022 20:44 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2022 20:42 Holyflare wrote:On September 02 2022 20:38 Dandel Ion wrote:
Because Rels is mafia I'll vote for rels after you've voted for tube i am physically incapable of voting anybody but Rels my fingers wont let me type the letters
This is just useless and at some point becomes a very convenient way for scum to spam the thread by just acting like a shitty townie. Absolutely nothing new is being added and not attempt is made at convincing people.
I keep coming back to the word lazy and for me, that sums up dandel's play. While I initially felt dandel and vivax were playing very similarly, vivax has since then started giving a fuck and generated some decent reads, while dandel has just floated along and crutched off this Rels tunnel to avoid actual scum hunting.
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On September 03 2022 04:39 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2022 04:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On September 02 2022 04:30 Alakaslam wrote:On September 02 2022 04:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm flying tonight so I won't be around much for the next 18 hours or so but I'll try and stay caught up reading the thread.
I'll have the previously promised thoughts on vivax/dandel and some thoughts on tubesock/mattchew when I'm back at my computer. Holy shit where you going, Japan? Korea? To USA or Canada from something like that? Nah it was just a routine training flight but it requires 3 hours of planning, 3 hours of briefing, 4 hours of flying, 2 hours of debriefing, and then I went to sleep. Slept longer than anticipated but I don't work today so I'll actually have some time to comb through the game. You flightcrew? I fly the L100
Dude! I'm a C-130 Nav haha, small world. It's a great plane.
Post on mattchew and you coming up in a second.
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On September 03 2022 05:47 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2022 05:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 03 2022 05:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 03 2022 04:39 Tubesock wrote:On September 03 2022 04:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On September 02 2022 04:30 Alakaslam wrote:On September 02 2022 04:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm flying tonight so I won't be around much for the next 18 hours or so but I'll try and stay caught up reading the thread.
I'll have the previously promised thoughts on vivax/dandel and some thoughts on tubesock/mattchew when I'm back at my computer. Holy shit where you going, Japan? Korea? To USA or Canada from something like that? Nah it was just a routine training flight but it requires 3 hours of planning, 3 hours of briefing, 4 hours of flying, 2 hours of debriefing, and then I went to sleep. Slept longer than anticipated but I don't work today so I'll actually have some time to comb through the game. You flightcrew? I fly the L100 I am jealous. When i went to mandatory army service i applied for both air force and navy but because my last name is so low on the list alphabetically i didn't even get a response from either. So instead i did something i can't speak of. :D I mean i 100% fit all physicals, vision, shit like that for either (at the time at least). So are you just going to read my case?
I'm not responding to your case btw, you are so hopelessly tunneled onto me that nothing is going to change your mind.
I also am still pretty sure you're scum so it's not really worth my time.
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On September 03 2022 05:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2022 05:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On September 03 2022 05:47 CopCake wrote:On September 03 2022 05:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 03 2022 05:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 03 2022 04:39 Tubesock wrote:On September 03 2022 04:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On September 02 2022 04:30 Alakaslam wrote:On September 02 2022 04:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm flying tonight so I won't be around much for the next 18 hours or so but I'll try and stay caught up reading the thread.
I'll have the previously promised thoughts on vivax/dandel and some thoughts on tubesock/mattchew when I'm back at my computer. Holy shit where you going, Japan? Korea? To USA or Canada from something like that? Nah it was just a routine training flight but it requires 3 hours of planning, 3 hours of briefing, 4 hours of flying, 2 hours of debriefing, and then I went to sleep. Slept longer than anticipated but I don't work today so I'll actually have some time to comb through the game. You flightcrew? I fly the L100 I am jealous. When i went to mandatory army service i applied for both air force and navy but because my last name is so low on the list alphabetically i didn't even get a response from either. So instead i did something i can't speak of. :D I mean i 100% fit all physicals, vision, shit like that for either (at the time at least). So are you just going to read my case? I'm not responding to your case btw, you are so hopelessly tunneled onto me that nothing is going to change your mind. I also am still pretty sure you're scum so it's not really worth my time. You actually should, if you are town. She cannot be tunneled and mafia at the same time, so you need to pick one. Even if you think she is mafia i think you should respond because it takes away her guns if she is actually mafia or she needs to do something else (if youre town) that might give her up.
You can absolutely tunnel as scum, it's exactly what I think dandel is doing to rels rn. It's an easy way of deflecting suspicion and a way for lazy scum to skate by without actually having to work to blend in because they get away with being "bad town."
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On September 03 2022 05:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2022 05:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On September 03 2022 05:47 CopCake wrote:On September 03 2022 05:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 03 2022 05:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 03 2022 04:39 Tubesock wrote:On September 03 2022 04:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On September 02 2022 04:30 Alakaslam wrote:On September 02 2022 04:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm flying tonight so I won't be around much for the next 18 hours or so but I'll try and stay caught up reading the thread.
I'll have the previously promised thoughts on vivax/dandel and some thoughts on tubesock/mattchew when I'm back at my computer. Holy shit where you going, Japan? Korea? To USA or Canada from something like that? Nah it was just a routine training flight but it requires 3 hours of planning, 3 hours of briefing, 4 hours of flying, 2 hours of debriefing, and then I went to sleep. Slept longer than anticipated but I don't work today so I'll actually have some time to comb through the game. You flightcrew? I fly the L100 I am jealous. When i went to mandatory army service i applied for both air force and navy but because my last name is so low on the list alphabetically i didn't even get a response from either. So instead i did something i can't speak of. :D I mean i 100% fit all physicals, vision, shit like that for either (at the time at least). So are you just going to read my case? I'm not responding to your case btw, you are so hopelessly tunneled onto me that nothing is going to change your mind. I also am still pretty sure you're scum so it's not really worth my time. You actually should, if you are town. She cannot be tunneled and mafia at the same time, so you need to pick one. Even if you think she is mafia i think you should respond because it takes away her guns if she is actually mafia or she needs to do something else (if youre town) that might give her up.
Think about it, they have done exactly one thing this game which is tunnel me, same with dandel tunneling rels. People write it off as bad town play but it's such an easy excuse for scum.
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On September 03 2022 07:41 Tubesock wrote:
You want to know what's even worse??? I don't think Rels or Vivax are mafia anymore.
I have ZERO scumreads at the moment.
What are your thoughts on Dandel, Jock, or copcake
I'm trying to write this post looking at you and Matt but I keep refreshing your filter and this thread and there's more to read.
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On September 03 2022 07:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2022 07:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm trying to write this post looking at you and Matt but I keep refreshing your filter and this thread and there's more to read. What does this mean?
After my post on dandel and vivax I started looking at tube and Matt but as I've been reading and writing your conversation has been going on with tube and I'm kinda just waiting to see how your back and forth plays out to see if it changes how I view tube.
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On September 03 2022 08:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2022 08:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On September 03 2022 07:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 03 2022 07:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm trying to write this post looking at you and Matt but I keep refreshing your filter and this thread and there's more to read. What does this mean? After my post on dandel and vivax I started looking at tube and Matt but as I've been reading and writing your conversation has been going on with tube and I'm kinda just waiting to see how your back and forth plays out to see if it changes how I view tube. I am curious how do you view Tube atm?
So honestly, at EOD D1 I had him as lean town bc I had a hard time seeing scum flip flop his vote like that. Mostly because if rels flips scum then it all but confirms tube is scum, and if rels is town there's no reason for him to get involved in the lynch between myself, decon, and rels.
But you and HF are two of my stronger town reads and you're pushing tube so I'm trying to look at it from all angles and see if I'm missing something.
I actually think there's a fair chance everyone voting tube rn is town, except maybe for chez.
Meanwhile most of my scum reads are on rels, and tube is there too. So yeah I'm just working through this now before I make up my mind one way or another.
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On September 03 2022 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2022 08:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On September 03 2022 08:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 03 2022 08:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On September 03 2022 07:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 03 2022 07:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm trying to write this post looking at you and Matt but I keep refreshing your filter and this thread and there's more to read. What does this mean? After my post on dandel and vivax I started looking at tube and Matt but as I've been reading and writing your conversation has been going on with tube and I'm kinda just waiting to see how your back and forth plays out to see if it changes how I view tube. I am curious how do you view Tube atm? So honestly, at EOD D1 I had him as lean town bc I had a hard time seeing scum flip flop his vote like that. Mostly because if rels flips scum then it all but confirms tube is scum, and if rels is town there's no reason for him to get involved in the lynch between myself, decon, and rels. But you and HF are two of my stronger town reads and you're pushing tube so I'm trying to look at it from all angles and see if I'm missing something. I actually think there's a fair chance everyone voting tube rn is town, except maybe for chez. Meanwhile most of my scum reads are on rels, and tube is there too. So yeah I'm just working through this now before I make up my mind one way or another. I have a question about this. Why do you... think like this? I don't get it. My thingy thing in mafia is to find one mafia, then work who that mafia can be mafiabuddies with. I have never understood why people play mafia like that, if this then that. But if not this then you're always at the starting point again, like groundhog D1 again and again if you happen to be wrong.
I look at it based on: what is accomplished by tube's vote. Tube removed the hammer from Rels and put it onto me. Rels then voted Dec and that was the lynch. If Rels is scum and tube is scum, that's a super dumb switch to make bc tube now gets alllll the suspicion for how that vote went down if rels ever flips If rels is town and tube is scum, why get involved in the first place, let the lynch on rels happen.
I just don't see how tube is scum based on EOD.
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On September 03 2022 08:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2022 08:27 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On September 03 2022 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 03 2022 08:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On September 03 2022 08:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 03 2022 08:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On September 03 2022 07:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 03 2022 07:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm trying to write this post looking at you and Matt but I keep refreshing your filter and this thread and there's more to read. What does this mean? After my post on dandel and vivax I started looking at tube and Matt but as I've been reading and writing your conversation has been going on with tube and I'm kinda just waiting to see how your back and forth plays out to see if it changes how I view tube. I am curious how do you view Tube atm? So honestly, at EOD D1 I had him as lean town bc I had a hard time seeing scum flip flop his vote like that. Mostly because if rels flips scum then it all but confirms tube is scum, and if rels is town there's no reason for him to get involved in the lynch between myself, decon, and rels. But you and HF are two of my stronger town reads and you're pushing tube so I'm trying to look at it from all angles and see if I'm missing something. I actually think there's a fair chance everyone voting tube rn is town, except maybe for chez. Meanwhile most of my scum reads are on rels, and tube is there too. So yeah I'm just working through this now before I make up my mind one way or another. I have a question about this. Why do you... think like this? I don't get it. My thingy thing in mafia is to find one mafia, then work who that mafia can be mafiabuddies with. I have never understood why people play mafia like that, if this then that. But if not this then you're always at the starting point again, like groundhog D1 again and again if you happen to be wrong. I look at it based on: what is accomplished by tube's vote. Tube removed the hammer from Rels and put it onto me. Rels then voted Dec and that was the lynch. If Rels is scum and tube is scum, that's a super dumb switch to make bc tube now gets alllll the suspicion for how that vote went down if rels ever flips If rels is town and tube is scum, why get involved in the first place, let the lynch on rels happen. I just don't see how tube is scum based on EOD. Tube never voted for you? If you are town and Rels is mafia why is that a bad switch again? If you are town and Rels is town why is that a bad switch again? Except that Tube should vote for you or Rels in his mind....
Sorry I should have been more clear. Tube voted for decon which put the hammer on me. If I'm town and rels is mafia then if rels flips at any point in the game it puts a huge amount of pressure on tube. If we're both town, tube still gets pressure (i.e. exactly what is happening right now) because of how the vote looked.
In my mind, if tube is scum and rels is town he should have never even showed up in the thread and just come back after the night post. We would have a much different focus (either on me or decon if rels dies and is town). Tube's actions only really make sense as either a spastic townie or a scum trying to save his buddy, so unless rels flips scum, I just don't know what motivation scum tube has for even getting involved at EOD.
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On September 03 2022 08:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If rels is scum and tube is scum then i think tube just saved mafia from being lynched.
Yes this is exactly what I'm saying.
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On September 03 2022 08:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2022 06:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On a not-so-side-note, here is some food for thought:
How does anyone not voting for Tubesock justify voting for anyone else.
- Tubesock had Rels and MZ as top mafia D1 (deconduo is not a scumread)
- There was a time (near EoD) when Koshi, Dandel, rayn -- all of Tube's townreads are voting for Rels
- Without any contribution towards anything, he chooses to vote for deconduo over EITHER Rels or MZ when those are the wagons to choose from
- Tubesock has apparently no intention to clarify his voting behaviour at all
How is Tubesock not mafia over ANYONE else in the game? Don't be fucking stupid now people, this is like 100% mafia behaviour 100% of the time. again how is this guy town ??????????????
This post is literally why I stopped to question my read. I'm just trying to figure out the logic for why tf scum tube does this unless it's to save scum rels.
And even then that's just a terrible play objectively speaking.
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On September 03 2022 08:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So you think Tube is only mafia if Rels is mafia?
That's pretty much where I'm at. If tube if mafia and rels is town then that's gotta be some of the worst EOD scum play I've seen in a while.
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On September 03 2022 08:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2022 08:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On September 03 2022 08:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 03 2022 06:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On a not-so-side-note, here is some food for thought:
How does anyone not voting for Tubesock justify voting for anyone else.
- Tubesock had Rels and MZ as top mafia D1 (deconduo is not a scumread)
- There was a time (near EoD) when Koshi, Dandel, rayn -- all of Tube's townreads are voting for Rels
- Without any contribution towards anything, he chooses to vote for deconduo over EITHER Rels or MZ when those are the wagons to choose from
- Tubesock has apparently no intention to clarify his voting behaviour at all
How is Tubesock not mafia over ANYONE else in the game? Don't be fucking stupid now people, this is like 100% mafia behaviour 100% of the time. again how is this guy town ?????????????? This post is literally why I stopped to question my read. I'm just trying to figure out the logic for why tf scum tube does this unless it's to save scum rels. And even then that's just a terrible play objectively speaking. Are you saying mafia can get away with anything just because "too bad to be scum" or what?
No you're right, I hate the "too dumb to be scum" excuse. Although in this particular case I'd prefer to lynch dandel or maybe mattchew.
Especially given that tube is around and posting, I'm willing to see how it plays out for one more day.
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I'm honestly still having a hard time with tube, his reads are very different from mine and have been for most of the game and I do think the EOD rels shit was super strange but I just can't see scum doing that. He's also responded to pressure fairly well imo and in doing so earned a chance to have another day to get some scum hunting done.
On September 01 2022 10:10 Tubesock wrote:
After filter reads towns are
Koshi, Dandel Ion, Jockmcplop, Meap_Ziphh, Copcake, raynpelikoneet, and Alakaslam.
Rels, Vivax
I'm around, going to keep reading.
On September 03 2022 08:12 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2022 07:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On September 03 2022 07:41 Tubesock wrote:
You want to know what's even worse??? I don't think Rels or Vivax are mafia anymore.
I have ZERO scumreads at the moment. What are your thoughts on Dandel, Jock, or copcake I'm trying to write this post looking at you and Matt but I keep refreshing your filter and this thread and there's more to read. Dand- I agree with most of what he says. His Rels post I thought aligned well to my thinking. Rels really looked like he was performing. And continued to do so. I for some reason liked how he asked you if you shake your fist at people. Kinda dumb but I gave you both some town points. Granted you had less for being so serious against Decon. Jock- I think he's pretty solid town. I like that he kept looking at other things for the overall picture not just only his lynch. Unlike Decon. Decon would be overhelming town if he was lynch Rels but also doing more investigating. I think Jock is looking deeper than a normal scum would. Copcake- Feeling she's town. Don't agree with her case on you, but I believe she believes it. I've written many cases like that and have been ignored compeltely too.
Mattchew on the other hand is pretty cut and dry
First he has a pretty terrible post calling rayn mafia and me his top town read. He also calls copcake scum based on my case:
On August 31 2022 05:08 Mattchew wrote:Ok lets get started. Theres been a lot of conversation about individual player habits and previous games, honestly i havent played in forever and dont remember the games i did play, i will also not be going back thru previous games/players history to expand on these reads. I will obviously be reading and judging posts with these reads but thru a lens of just this game Having read up to page 22, there was only 1 player that super stuck out as someone I was suspicious of based on just this game and that player is raynpelikoneet. every single one of his posts is either talking about setup/mechanics/game theory or a hard neutral reads, all of this reads to me as if he is trying to look like he is free posting and active town while not actually saying anything. Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 22:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi top town. I sm not sure if stuff on Cake and MZ makrs them mafia but nevertheless its legit stuff and townie thought process. Esp on MZ he uses very weird narratives in his scumhunting on what he thinks makes people mafia. Pretty sure he got lynched for it as town last game i played with him.
Deconduo probs mafia. Apparently all he has said has been sarcasm and prolonging the discussion about that when people dont understand its sarcasm. Very counter productive. Hopefully he does some scumhunting if he happens to be town. Last night o read some of hisrecent games and town filter is scumhunting and scum filter is setup shit talking, so here pretty much the same.
Jock probs town too, maybe dandel too. Doesnt look like he hassny scum driven agenda. Tjose are my reads i have until p15. Like this is his most active post in the game so far and the only thing hes said since actual reads discussion has started (notice his activity has dropped significantly with real game conversation taking place). It consists of what I consider a pretty light/meme read on koshi, a "im not sure" on cake/mz, and insanely light scum read on decon that screams "i can bail on this read if needed" and 2 more random "probs town". This to me is quintessential mafia not knowing how to interject opinions into the game because they have too much information and thinking that day 1 activity can get them thru to day 2. ________________________________________________________________________________________________ The MZ push on CC is also something that has caught my eye. + Show Spoiler +On August 31 2022 02:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Ok starting where I left off. Firstly, copcake fluff + Show Spoiler +On August 30 2022 03:31 CopCake wrote:
Hi Rels, long time no see :D On August 30 2022 03:47 CopCake wrote:
Hi Jock, long time no see. On August 30 2022 03:49 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 03:48 deconduo wrote:On August 30 2022 03:41 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I'll get back to you Rels when i get home in an hour.
Happy youre playing and not afking though ^^ haha yeah I'm hyped to be playing after years of abstinence :p Same. Last game I played was Crossfire Mafia back in 2015 Oh shit On August 30 2022 05:19 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 05:13 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 30 2022 05:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 05:04 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 30 2022 05:02 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 05:00 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 30 2022 04:58 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 04:57 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 30 2022 04:53 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 04:51 Dandel Ion wrote:
I lack both money and a mouth Neo? Is that you? are we ever truly anybody? Yes you are Alice in a poorly constructed metaphor about a rabbit hole. Staying on topic though, you may have no mouth and no money but you certainly have a vote. If you're going to try and lynch me as you said you were you should use it. no I shouldn't voting is counterproductive to obtaining a lynch In what way? It scares the sheep "On no I can't believe he's mafia he has more votes than players in the game" (1)plus the later you vote the more townie you are and (2)I only care about how townie I look when ever have you cared about this? always I was just very good at hiding my feelings Sorry, the comment sounded very edgy. Couldn't resist. On August 30 2022 05:56 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 05:53 deconduo wrote:
Sorry forgot about the post where I confirmed I was town, updated list:
100% confirmed town:
Holyflare
deconduo
Leaning Town:
Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Undecided:
Alakaslam
CopCake
Tubesock
Meapak_Ziphh
raynpelikoneet
Rels
Mattchew
Leaning Mafia:
Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi)
Koshi
Chezinu:
Chezinu If Alakaslam doesn't post "Hijole" in his first post you can call him mafia. On August 30 2022 19:44 CopCake wrote:
Btw, in my last mafia game I was magnificent. On August 30 2022 20:17 CopCake wrote:![[image loading]](https://media.baamboozle.com/uploads/images/145581/1658386256_1767408_gif-url.gif) I also hate the constant question asking, Koshi already covered why it's scummy and I agree with him: Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 18:30 Koshi wrote:On August 30 2022 03:20 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:I'm town Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? Are you saying you are not town? On August 30 2022 03:24 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb Are you talking of a past game or? On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:28 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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lol? did you skip HF post on purpose? Which post and whatsm i supposed to do eith it? Was wondering why you didn't address this post: On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb What? But responded to the very next one: On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:I'm town Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused. He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later) So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting. Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless. I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____ I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back. deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this: On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote:
Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding. What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo? Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated Asking random questions is classic struggling mafia behavior searching a way to engage the thread. The first 2 are fine and could be seen as playful, but the last quote holds an entire conversation and I feel copcake her post is disconnected from the chain. It breaks the pressure, doesn't add value, feels off. This post pinged me initially. Next let's go through the progression of reads on the infamous "decon joke list" Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 16:01 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote:
100% confirmed town
Holyflare
Leaning Town:
Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Undecided:
deconduo
Alakaslam
CopCake
Tubesock
Meapak_Ziphh
raynpelikoneet
Rels
Mattchew
Leaning Mafia:
Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi)
Koshi
Chezinu:
Chezinu Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation. You know his list is just a joke, right? And have I been only “fluffy” in the thread? Have I not questioned anything in it? If you are so sure please tell me about it. Arriving and typing “I don’t like this” is not of great help if you can’t justify it. Ok it starts with a question to me about the list being a joke, whether it's a joke or not doesn't change the fact that I don't like the post, although apparently I'm mister no fun and lots of humor has gone over my head this game. Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 21:26 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 20:49 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 20:43 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 20:39 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 20:31 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 30 2022 17:10 deconduo wrote:
Morning all. I heard you like lists. I like lists. I'm gonna make another list.
People who are fun:
Jock
Dandel
Slam
Koshi
Vivax
CopCake
Tube
Neutral:
Rels
Matt
People who are not fun:
Rayn
People who are attempting to suck every molecule of fun from the game:
MZ
Chezinu:
Chezinu this list is unironically revolting koshi in the fun category smh your last list was better, you fell off It made me feel good, which gave me bad vibes instantly. Man this game is so anti-human sometimes. I think is the opposite, I tend to put so much " feel" I tend to feel exhausted at the end. Specially the times when I roll scum several times consecutive. Its definitely exhausting. I get what you mean, I think we're saying similar things. I get exhausted constantly having to second guess myself remembering not to like people who are being likeable. That's what i mean by anti-human. Do you have any reads yet? I honestly feel like people hasn't posted enough, the only thing that gave me a bad sensation was Vivax, he feels like another person and not himself. I liked how deconduo reacted with the whole claiming town situation. You seem too happy/freely while not pocketing so I think you are town. I disliked how Ziphh took Deconduo list seriously. Still waiting for his answers. I want more HF but overall Rels tho. And the game sometimes can be too overwhelming as town, specially in the last couple of days and there is a misslynch or you lose situation (even tho it is also fun in a strange way) or as mafia when I have to give a performance and fake my emotions/reactions to events. And as you might have noticed I "tone read" most of the time. Then I just close the tab and watch tv or do something else. Ok so now we're waiting on my response because copcake disliked that I took it seriously. Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 23:42 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 23:31 Holyflare wrote:On August 30 2022 23:30 CopCake wrote:
Let me get this right, HF.
There is a world in which me and Ziphh could be mafia together just because he threw my name out of nowhere?
Ooppss, I am super mafia for asking another thing. Absolutely With this caveat: On August 30 2022 23:07 Holyflare wrote:
To clarify, I don't think Cop is scummy independently currently, I just have tinfoil purely based on MZ speculation. I honestly think that is like, bad reasoning. Specially because he also mentioned jock first. Not just me and Deconduo list. Even tho I agree that he taking deconduo's list seriously is bad, I kinda feel it is too bad to be mafia. I don't think mafia would try to put themselves in the spotlight early and be more wary of what they are posting. So it's "seriously bad" but it might just be "too bad?" It really feels like copcake is taking cues from the thread sentiment to come up with a scumread here (which they aren't even committed too since they give themselves an out of "too bad to be scum" in case the thread moves away from my lynch or I flip town." Seriously, either call me scum or don't. It looks like cope is trying to position themselves in the middle so that they can continue to flow with thread sentiment. copecake doesn't even get credit for calling me out for my take on decon (which I still think isn't bad): Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 10:53 Tubesock wrote:On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote:
100% confirmed town
Holyflare
Leaning Town:
Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Undecided:
deconduo
Alakaslam
CopCake
Tubesock
Meapak_Ziphh
raynpelikoneet
Rels
Mattchew
Leaning Mafia:
Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi)
Koshi
Chezinu:
Chezinu Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation. But that's the best list post of the ENTIRE game! Why don't you see that as a mostly joke post with 1 (technically 2) useful read? He looks pretty playful to me. Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 16:01 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote:
100% confirmed town
Holyflare
Leaning Town:
Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Undecided:
deconduo
Alakaslam
CopCake
Tubesock
Meapak_Ziphh
raynpelikoneet
Rels
Mattchew
Leaning Mafia:
Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi)
Koshi
Chezinu:
Chezinu Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation. You know his list is just a joke, right? And have I been only “fluffy” in the thread? Have I not questioned anything in it? If you are so sure please tell me about it. Arriving and typing “I don’t like this” is not of great help if you can’t justify it. Tube beats her to the punch here. The final issue I have with copecake is the general tone and defensive/apologetic posts: + Show Spoiler +On August 30 2022 21:28 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 21:27 Jockmcplop wrote:
Let me ax you somefink.
If MZ isn't being FUN, does that affect how you see his alignment, if so, how? Don't ask too many questions or you are going to be mafia! On August 30 2022 23:30 CopCake wrote:
Let me get this right, HF.
There is a world in which me and Ziphh could be mafia together just because he threw my name out of nowhere?
Ooppss, I am super mafia for asking another thing. On August 31 2022 00:07 CopCake wrote:
But you made yourself clear, you don't need to explain further, I understand were you are coming from even if it is "bad" in my point of view.
I probably wrote that wrong. These are just so... bleh. Townies don't need to defend their behavior, townies don't need to act apologetic. It feels like someone who got caught in a scumtell and is now not sure how to play it off. I know I said that was the final issue but one more thing bothers me with copecake and that's the complete lack of reads despite all the questions. If you're going to be active and questioning, as a townie you should probably start to have some solid reads. And I don't really count townreading someone because that's super easy for scum to do. I think(?) I'm their only scumread but even that is so wishy washy it's hard to tell. Anyway I'll go take another look at decon and then try to figure out wtf my read of jock is but for now my vote will be on copecake. I can't find anything wrong with this post, he is correct about the tone of posts and similarly to my rayn read finds a lot of fluff that anyone can post for activity that doesnt actually help town progress forward towards a mafia lynch. MZ seems to be playing the game very seriously which I can appreciate and at this point is trying to nail down his CC read and is pushing incredibly hard for it which screams MZ is town to me. TLDR: MZ is top town read, Rayn and CC top mafia and Chez rulez
He doesn't want to lynch me or rels
On August 31 2022 13:01 Mattchew wrote:
man i do not like either of mz or rels. rels made a really good point about rayn that has me super questioning my read on him, his emotional manipulation would be HELLA bitch made if he was mafia doing that. the only person i like on the Rels train is koshi and the only person i like on the MZ train is HF (but he may be pocketing me TBD)
So he leaves his vote on rayn (terrible). What a great way to completely avoid having to give any real opinions or reads. He then disappears until after the lynch, when he returns he posts this gem:
On September 01 2022 07:09 Mattchew wrote:
Reading up on the past 20ish pages, felt to me like we had 3 town wagons and that the people moving votes around towards the end were more likely town then mafia. This opinion is completely based in the fact that i think mz is town. If i am correct, it would have been incredibly easy for mafia to hide votes scattered amongst dec mz rels. The only person heavily posting at the end of day that i didnt like was slam.
Slam why are you being so lazy
Once again, I am seemingly his top town read, and he also freely townreads rels AND all the people moving their votes EOD except for some reason, slam. Having too many townreads is a hallmark of scum because a) you know that everyone actually is town and b) you don't read the game with the same suspicious mindset that a townie has to read it with.
BUT WAIT, PLOT TWIST ALERT:
On September 01 2022 07:17 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2022 07:15 Koshi wrote:
Ok. I am open to the idea Di Mz and some1 on the deco train is scum. Maybe tube.
If so. Town played well. Mafia slightly better. Man a vig shot on mz would fill in so many blanks
Time to vig me, his most consistent town read so far, just for information. But aside from the terrible vigi shot, he's also open to the idea that Dandel, and maybe tube AND NOW ME are scum. Not to sound like dandel who harped so much on rels about "progression", but this progression makes absolutely no sense from a town point of view and instead sounds like scum trying to appropriately position themselves for the next lynch.
Now Matt is gonna double down on this:
On September 01 2022 08:43 Mattchew wrote:
Shooting mz is best
Mz is mafia, a. A mafia is ded and the people voting him are probably town cause the guts to stay on that bus is just too great for me to fathom
B. Mz is town and while we get significantly less vote logic we atleast dont head into day 2 distracted by how yesterdays lynch and votes and connections are made.
But matt, you think mz is town, yes but i am not nearly good or smart enough to think i am absolutely right or that i feel strong enough about my day 1 read to warrant keeping someone that could be an easy mafia tunnel/mafia member alive
"I'm gonna call for my town read to get vigi shot for information because I'm too lazy to figure it out and even though we don't get information if he's town (which is my [matt's] read) but let's just waste a vigi shot N1. Like... there is no possible way a townie could arrive at this line of reasoning.
On September 02 2022 02:42 Mattchew wrote:
Lazy reads only eon post:
Town: koshi rels hf
Town but should be vig shot: mz
Scummies: rayn, cc, tube, slam
This is just... more bad. Still calling rayn scum, still scum reading copcake based on my case despite the fact he wants me dead. There is absolutely no logical flow to these reads.
On September 03 2022 10:41 Mattchew wrote:yeah im completing my turnaround on rayn. he is active and trying to solve the game. this also may be my new favorite mafia post + Show Spoiler +On September 03 2022 08:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
truth to be told i actually got quite annoyed at mattchew on day one. i dont think anyone was doubting you lol. anyway i like lynching tubesock, would love to follow that up with a CC or Slam lynch. rayn you dont have MZ as mafia, what does a mafia rels gain from hammering 1 town over another at the last second
"completing your turnaround on rayn" bro what? You made one half assed read of rayn at the beginning of D1 and then just lightly called him scum and now all of a sudden you've had an epiphany? This reads like scum trying to back out of a corner. To complete the reads on this post, he says he'd be happy to lynch tube and as far as I can tell this is his reasoning back on D1:
On August 31 2022 05:16 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2022 04:47 Alakaslam wrote:On August 31 2022 02:26 Tubesock wrote:
Read up.
HF obviously remains 100% confirmed town. Since I'm sheeping and hard defending Deconduo he's town too. Dande makes me smile so town there as well. Koshi likes me. That gives me warm fuzzies.
Copcake, Jock, and MZ are overall neutral for me. They do towny things that can be mimicked, but I disagree on several things they say soooooo yeah.
Want to see Rayn go Rayn so waiting for that. Plus, he usually has the Tubesock decoder and can see my town beacon.
I like this Vivax. I usually disagree (not that he's said much about the game) with him but his town light is usually bright and disruptive.
Slam isn't appearing to be having fun. That makes me sad. I disagree with HF's read though. Slam always deprecates himself and is always "this is lynching me" type talk. Slam's a mystery to me, which is why I enjoy him so much.
I can easily vote anyone else I forgot about. Whaaaaaaat? I've been having a ball reading this shit, the mechanics here at Penske Montebello probably think I am crazy now I forgot i wanted to re-look at this post (had it in a tab that i missed) This post by tube was super sketchy and screamed of TMI and trying to blend in, its also his only post of the game since reads have been flowing and has no evidence/logic behind anything said
Like damn dude, just gonna hang your hat on that? It really feels like matt is just going along with tube because at the time, the thread was swinging towards a tube lynch.
Matt's play is inconsistent, his reads are all over the place and not backed up, he 180s on rayn for no reason, he calls for me to be shot despite even saying we wouldn't learn anything if I was town (and he thinks I am). He skates the first lynch and is now ready to hop onto whatever wagon is the most convenient.
I would feel much better lynching matt today than either rels or tube.
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Oh man I should have held off on that post since now matt is here and rayn is asking questions.
Although I feel a lot more certain about matt's alignment than tube's.
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