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On August 31 2022 01:35 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2022 01:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Also I still don't like decon but multiple people are convinced he's "playful town." I'll have to compare between him and cop and figure out who I dislike more. all i need to read you is an answer to the following: How often do you find yourself shaking a fist at other people?
like, IRL
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On August 31 2022 02:14 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2022 01:36 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 31 2022 01:35 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 31 2022 01:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Also I still don't like decon but multiple people are convinced he's "playful town." I'll have to compare between him and cop and figure out who I dislike more. all i need to read you is an answer to the following: How often do you find yourself shaking a fist at other people? like, IRL Oh I missed this part, well I'm in the military so unfortunately more than I'd like to lol.
town
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On August 31 2022 04:33 Mattchew wrote:
i am almost done reading, will post thoughts soon
good, considering that your thoughts is all i'm waiting for before i truly unleash
it all depends on you
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On August 31 2022 05:19 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2022 05:08 Mattchew wrote:Ok lets get started. Theres been a lot of conversation about individual player habits and previous games, honestly i havent played in forever and dont remember the games i did play, i will also not be going back thru previous games/players history to expand on these reads. I will obviously be reading and judging posts with these reads but thru a lens of just this game Having read up to page 22, there was only 1 player that super stuck out as someone I was suspicious of based on just this game and that player is raynpelikoneet. every single one of his posts is either talking about setup/mechanics/game theory or a hard neutral reads, all of this reads to me as if he is trying to look like he is free posting and active town while not actually saying anything. On August 30 2022 22:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi top town. I sm not sure if stuff on Cake and MZ makrs them mafia but nevertheless its legit stuff and townie thought process. Esp on MZ he uses very weird narratives in his scumhunting on what he thinks makes people mafia. Pretty sure he got lynched for it as town last game i played with him.
Deconduo probs mafia. Apparently all he has said has been sarcasm and prolonging the discussion about that when people dont understand its sarcasm. Very counter productive. Hopefully he does some scumhunting if he happens to be town. Last night o read some of hisrecent games and town filter is scumhunting and scum filter is setup shit talking, so here pretty much the same.
Jock probs town too, maybe dandel too. Doesnt look like he hassny scum driven agenda. Tjose are my reads i have until p15. Like this is his most active post in the game so far and the only thing hes said since actual reads discussion has started (notice his activity has dropped significantly with real game conversation taking place). It consists of what I consider a pretty light/meme read on koshi, a "im not sure" on cake/mz, and insanely light scum read on decon that screams "i can bail on this read if needed" and 2 more random "probs town". This to me is quintessential mafia not knowing how to interject opinions into the game because they have too much information and thinking that day 1 activity can get them thru to day 2. ________________________________________________________________________________________________ The MZ push on CC is also something that has caught my eye. + Show Spoiler +On August 31 2022 02:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Ok starting where I left off. Firstly, copcake fluff + Show Spoiler +On August 30 2022 03:31 CopCake wrote:
Hi Rels, long time no see :D On August 30 2022 03:47 CopCake wrote:
Hi Jock, long time no see. On August 30 2022 03:49 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 03:48 deconduo wrote:On August 30 2022 03:41 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I'll get back to you Rels when i get home in an hour.
Happy youre playing and not afking though ^^ haha yeah I'm hyped to be playing after years of abstinence :p Same. Last game I played was Crossfire Mafia back in 2015 Oh shit On August 30 2022 05:19 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 05:13 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 30 2022 05:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 05:04 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 30 2022 05:02 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 05:00 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 30 2022 04:58 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 04:57 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 30 2022 04:53 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 04:51 Dandel Ion wrote:
I lack both money and a mouth Neo? Is that you? are we ever truly anybody? Yes you are Alice in a poorly constructed metaphor about a rabbit hole. Staying on topic though, you may have no mouth and no money but you certainly have a vote. If you're going to try and lynch me as you said you were you should use it. no I shouldn't voting is counterproductive to obtaining a lynch In what way? It scares the sheep "On no I can't believe he's mafia he has more votes than players in the game" (1)plus the later you vote the more townie you are and (2)I only care about how townie I look when ever have you cared about this? always I was just very good at hiding my feelings Sorry, the comment sounded very edgy. Couldn't resist. On August 30 2022 05:56 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 05:53 deconduo wrote:
Sorry forgot about the post where I confirmed I was town, updated list:
100% confirmed town:
Holyflare
deconduo
Leaning Town:
Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Undecided:
Alakaslam
CopCake
Tubesock
Meapak_Ziphh
raynpelikoneet
Rels
Mattchew
Leaning Mafia:
Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi)
Koshi
Chezinu:
Chezinu If Alakaslam doesn't post "Hijole" in his first post you can call him mafia. On August 30 2022 19:44 CopCake wrote:
Btw, in my last mafia game I was magnificent. On August 30 2022 20:17 CopCake wrote:![[image loading]](https://media.baamboozle.com/uploads/images/145581/1658386256_1767408_gif-url.gif) I also hate the constant question asking, Koshi already covered why it's scummy and I agree with him: Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 18:30 Koshi wrote:On August 30 2022 03:20 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:I'm town  Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? Are you saying you are not town? On August 30 2022 03:24 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb Are you talking of a past game or? On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:28 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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lol? did you skip HF post on purpose? Which post and whatsm i supposed to do eith it? Was wondering why you didn't address this post: On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb What? But responded to the very next one: On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:I'm town Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused. He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later) So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting. Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless. I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____ I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back. deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this: On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote:
Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding. What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo? Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated Asking random questions is classic struggling mafia behavior searching a way to engage the thread. The first 2 are fine and could be seen as playful, but the last quote holds an entire conversation and I feel copcake her post is disconnected from the chain. It breaks the pressure, doesn't add value, feels off. This post pinged me initially. Next let's go through the progression of reads on the infamous "decon joke list" Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 16:01 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote:
100% confirmed town
Holyflare
Leaning Town:
Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Undecided:
deconduo
Alakaslam
CopCake
Tubesock
Meapak_Ziphh
raynpelikoneet
Rels
Mattchew
Leaning Mafia:
Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi)
Koshi
Chezinu:
Chezinu Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation. You know his list is just a joke, right? And have I been only “fluffy” in the thread? Have I not questioned anything in it? If you are so sure please tell me about it. Arriving and typing “I don’t like this” is not of great help if you can’t justify it. Ok it starts with a question to me about the list being a joke, whether it's a joke or not doesn't change the fact that I don't like the post, although apparently I'm mister no fun and lots of humor has gone over my head this game. Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 21:26 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 20:49 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 20:43 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 20:39 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 20:31 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 30 2022 17:10 deconduo wrote:
Morning all. I heard you like lists. I like lists. I'm gonna make another list.
People who are fun:
Jock
Dandel
Slam
Koshi
Vivax
CopCake
Tube
Neutral:
Rels
Matt
People who are not fun:
Rayn
People who are attempting to suck every molecule of fun from the game:
MZ
Chezinu:
Chezinu this list is unironically revolting koshi in the fun category smh your last list was better, you fell off It made me feel good, which gave me bad vibes instantly. Man this game is so anti-human sometimes. I think is the opposite, I tend to put so much " feel" I tend to feel exhausted at the end. Specially the times when I roll scum several times consecutive. Its definitely exhausting. I get what you mean, I think we're saying similar things. I get exhausted constantly having to second guess myself remembering not to like people who are being likeable. That's what i mean by anti-human. Do you have any reads yet? I honestly feel like people hasn't posted enough, the only thing that gave me a bad sensation was Vivax, he feels like another person and not himself. I liked how deconduo reacted with the whole claiming town situation. You seem too happy/freely while not pocketing so I think you are town. I disliked how Ziphh took Deconduo list seriously. Still waiting for his answers. I want more HF but overall Rels tho. And the game sometimes can be too overwhelming as town, specially in the last couple of days and there is a misslynch or you lose situation (even tho it is also fun in a strange way) or as mafia when I have to give a performance and fake my emotions/reactions to events. And as you might have noticed I "tone read" most of the time. Then I just close the tab and watch tv or do something else. Ok so now we're waiting on my response because copcake disliked that I took it seriously. Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 23:42 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 23:31 Holyflare wrote:On August 30 2022 23:30 CopCake wrote:
Let me get this right, HF.
There is a world in which me and Ziphh could be mafia together just because he threw my name out of nowhere?
Ooppss, I am super mafia for asking another thing. Absolutely With this caveat: On August 30 2022 23:07 Holyflare wrote:
To clarify, I don't think Cop is scummy independently currently, I just have tinfoil purely based on MZ speculation. I honestly think that is like, bad reasoning. Specially because he also mentioned jock first. Not just me and Deconduo list. Even tho I agree that he taking deconduo's list seriously is bad, I kinda feel it is too bad to be mafia. I don't think mafia would try to put themselves in the spotlight early and be more wary of what they are posting. So it's "seriously bad" but it might just be "too bad?" It really feels like copcake is taking cues from the thread sentiment to come up with a scumread here (which they aren't even committed too since they give themselves an out of "too bad to be scum" in case the thread moves away from my lynch or I flip town." Seriously, either call me scum or don't. It looks like cope is trying to position themselves in the middle so that they can continue to flow with thread sentiment. copecake doesn't even get credit for calling me out for my take on decon (which I still think isn't bad): Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 10:53 Tubesock wrote:On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote:
100% confirmed town
Holyflare
Leaning Town:
Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Undecided:
deconduo
Alakaslam
CopCake
Tubesock
Meapak_Ziphh
raynpelikoneet
Rels
Mattchew
Leaning Mafia:
Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi)
Koshi
Chezinu:
Chezinu Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation. But that's the best list post of the ENTIRE game! Why don't you see that as a mostly joke post with 1 (technically 2) useful read? He looks pretty playful to me. Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 16:01 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote:
100% confirmed town
Holyflare
Leaning Town:
Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Undecided:
deconduo
Alakaslam
CopCake
Tubesock
Meapak_Ziphh
raynpelikoneet
Rels
Mattchew
Leaning Mafia:
Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi)
Koshi
Chezinu:
Chezinu Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation. You know his list is just a joke, right? And have I been only “fluffy” in the thread? Have I not questioned anything in it? If you are so sure please tell me about it. Arriving and typing “I don’t like this” is not of great help if you can’t justify it. Tube beats her to the punch here. The final issue I have with copecake is the general tone and defensive/apologetic posts: + Show Spoiler +On August 30 2022 21:28 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 21:27 Jockmcplop wrote:
Let me ax you somefink.
If MZ isn't being FUN, does that affect how you see his alignment, if so, how? Don't ask too many questions or you are going to be mafia! On August 30 2022 23:30 CopCake wrote:
Let me get this right, HF.
There is a world in which me and Ziphh could be mafia together just because he threw my name out of nowhere?
Ooppss, I am super mafia for asking another thing. On August 31 2022 00:07 CopCake wrote:
But you made yourself clear, you don't need to explain further, I understand were you are coming from even if it is "bad" in my point of view.
I probably wrote that wrong. These are just so... bleh. Townies don't need to defend their behavior, townies don't need to act apologetic. It feels like someone who got caught in a scumtell and is now not sure how to play it off. I know I said that was the final issue but one more thing bothers me with copecake and that's the complete lack of reads despite all the questions. If you're going to be active and questioning, as a townie you should probably start to have some solid reads. And I don't really count townreading someone because that's super easy for scum to do. I think(?) I'm their only scumread but even that is so wishy washy it's hard to tell. Anyway I'll go take another look at decon and then try to figure out wtf my read of jock is but for now my vote will be on copecake. I can't find anything wrong with this post, he is correct about the tone of posts and similarly to my rayn read finds a lot of fluff that anyone can post for activity that doesnt actually help town progress forward towards a mafia lynch. MZ seems to be playing the game very seriously which I can appreciate and at this point is trying to nail down his CC read and is pushing incredibly hard for it which screams MZ is town to me. TLDR: MZ is top town read, Rayn and CC top mafia and Chez rulez I don't disagree with what you wrote. BUT What if rayn is actually just really busy and therefore only gave lazy reads? Your case depends a lot on, rayn pretends to be busy and is skating by to survive day 1?
i miss when this was you
On August 30 2022 21:37 Koshi wrote:
Ok then I call Rels, rayn and Hf all 3 mafia.
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On August 31 2022 06:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:My read on Koshi is not light or meme. I was saying those things Koshi wrote doesn't make MZ or Cake mafia, especially MZ. I am not bailing on my scumread on deconduo. Show nested quote +This to me is quintessential mafia not knowing how to interject opinions into the game because they have too much information and thinking that day 1 activity can get them thru to day 2. Sounds exactly like mafia!rayn anyone?
what if you're washed!mafia!rayn
can't dismiss the possibility
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Rels is keeping his options open and not in a good way
##Vote: Rels
it's real now
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Rels, just read along in his filter if you will I'm going chronological on this
#529 rayn and koshi top town, votes copcake and floats jock and slam
as per #533 copcake is a sheep off koshi
that all looks fine so far, no?
#534, #535, #537 is the first instance of what I mean. HF wasn't tunneling but hey maybe he was tunneling after all.
This is meant to look like progression but it's actually just nothing.
#542 towncases copcake
next saga
#543 vivax and dandel deserve to be shot
#544 because we're both 'useless'
then
#548 Slam is scummy
#553 actually he has no idea how to read Slam and his filter is not alignment indicative for him. HF's case does not make Slam scum. But Slam's posts still 'feel kind of fabricated'.
back on an old horse
#555 I'm just reacting to jock, which implies jock is leading and driving the conversation and I'm just being pulled along, however,
#556 + #557 Jock is still the one looking like mafia here, somehow because it "seems that you want to grab an easy win while fearing to be too obvious"
When his own argument to dismiss me is that jock drove the entire conversation. But that can not possibly be townie because professional fencesitter Rels needs more pointy bits of wood to park his ass.
#558 notably directly after the above, asks Vivax to participate, probably in full trust that Vivax will not, in fact do that. And you can always point back and go 'bad meanie Vivax didn't want to talk to me, big sad so scum'. This is just set-up for a future push and in no way can Rels actually think this would help him in reading Vivax.
But then, it's not really about trying to figure out who is town and who is scum, just who is 'pushable' and how believable these pushes are.
Going along
#562 Jock was just looking for an easy way to fabricate a scumread
When jock points out that he didn't, #569 comes to the rescue because that certainly does not prove that Rels is WRONG. It could totally be except he caps the post off by weakening his own stance to 'just a counter-example, not proof'.
Yo for real my fence is breaking under the weight of this man.
YO IT'S MY HOMEBOI DECONDUO UP IN HEA
#573 "hahahaha =D" jock's decon case is unconvincing but Rels will re-read it.
I assume it's not terrible because he doesn't post about it further just asks about it in #578
instead
#576 jock is just so scummy holy shit guyse
#579 Rels is now voting Slam
#583 decon's vote on Rels is "bad :p"
#584 Slam is the preferred lynch
#586 actually, decon is super natural, and yeah sure there's little 'substance' but for no discernable reason deconduo deserves completely different treatment than Vivax or Dandel did when decon is essentially the same slot.
Decon is mafia with Rels calling it here, especially since
#587 in Rels' townreads, decon suddenly doesn't appear at all! Wowzers! idk fam the last post sure read like a supposed townread to me but what do I know
#588 PoE, decon is in here because Rels remembered his own strategy I assume. But Vivax should be lynched over him (or Tube/Matt) anyway, funny how that works out. Whoever's not there is supposed to be scum I guess, idk. So me/Slam/jock but Rels doesn't have the cojones to actually call out a scumteam with both me and jock on it because he knows how insane and wrong that will sound to anybody.
The only player Rels bothers to fake a shred of progression on is Copcake.
That's literally it. Nothing on nobody else really means anything to this man.
Rels is mafia and as a tight little bonus i'm pretty sure that if he flips red decon is the next scum.
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On August 31 2022 21:37 Jockmcplop wrote:
More decon
There's zero attempt to progress his reads throughout the day.
He's doing alot of fighting against rayn's posts about him, but it hasn't seemed to arouse any suspicion that rayn might be mafia, even though he claims rayn's entire case on him was meta from 8 years ago.
Given that rayn is a good town player, that would at least make me suspicious if i was decon.
But all I get from his filter is that he's interested in both MZ and holyflare without actually attempting to go any further than that.
##Unvote: Vivax
##Vote: Deconduo
For someone who has posted a fair amount, there's a startling lack of actual content.
Read his filter. Tell me I'm wrong.
done too much reading already, want rels first
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but am a generous man and willing to negotiate terms
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On August 31 2022 21:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
Oh this is good news.
DI you are my tip top town right now. That was some mind meld. I didn't even know you were around lol.
I am amazed I actually got this done and am already away again
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I am the doctor and saving HF tonight, so don't bother killing HF.
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On September 02 2022 03:11 Grackaroni wrote:
whoops mispost.
##Vote Rels
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I am literally only tunneling rels and you have no chance to sway me off him.
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so best you just lynch rels with me.
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My NK interpretation is that Rels is mafia.
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On September 02 2022 03:21 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2022 03:20 Dandel Ion wrote:
My NK interpretation is that Rels is mafia. I see Canada, I lynch
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It's actually so obvious it turns around and becomes true again
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Rels, le mafia
On August 31 2022 23:25 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2022 21:45 Dandel Ion wrote:
[..]
The only player Rels bothers to fake a shred of progression on is Copcake.
That's literally it. Nothing on nobody else really means anything to this man.
Rels is mafia and as a tight little bonus i'm pretty sure that if he flips red decon is the next scum.
What a shitty case :p Of course I didn't have progression. I was only active for a few hours, during which noone was there apart from Jock. And talking to Jock made me progress too, as said above. Why would I suddenly change my reads on people in the 2 or so hours I was there and those people didn't do anything new?
"Of course" not having progression is a completely bullshit argument and it's insulting that people bought it.
Thinking is not contingent on other people being there.
My whole point is that Rels has talked about situations and people over multiple posts, when he in reality did only the workload of making a list.
For what purpose, then, did he need to make multiple posts one may ask?
Because he wants to look like he's working more and towards solving the game.
When in reality the answers were set beforehand.
The reason to make another post about the same subject would be because one had a new thought not expressed already.
Rels has no new thoughts however.
Because Rels is mafia and already knew where he wanted to be on people.
##Vote Rels again
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