On August 30 2022 04:12 deconduo wrote: Anyone who's posts I like always turns out to be mafia
The question is, if you've noticed this pattern before, didn't you just vote for the people whose posts you liked? How did it go?
Don't remember, its been years
I usually put this kind of thing (people whose posts i like tend to be mafia') down to cognitive bias. You'll always remember the times that this did happen, not so much when it didn't imo. Its probably a bit too much of a vague criteria to be actually true.
Well yes, I wasn't actually claiming that my subconscious is a highly honed mafia finding machine that can sniff out scum 20 minutes into day 1
Or maybe ...
You say that as if NO-ONE would ever claim such things.
But I've played against people who really do think that
On August 30 2022 04:51 Dandel Ion wrote: I lack both money and a mouth
Neo? Is that you?
are we ever truly anybody?
Yes you are Alice in a poorly constructed metaphor about a rabbit hole.
Staying on topic though, you may have no mouth and no money but you certainly have a vote. If you're going to try and lynch me as you said you were you should use it.
On August 30 2022 04:51 Dandel Ion wrote: I lack both money and a mouth
Neo? Is that you?
are we ever truly anybody?
Yes you are Alice in a poorly constructed metaphor about a rabbit hole.
Staying on topic though, you may have no mouth and no money but you certainly have a vote. If you're going to try and lynch me as you said you were you should use it.
no I shouldn't voting is counterproductive to obtaining a lynch
On August 30 2022 04:51 Dandel Ion wrote: I lack both money and a mouth
Neo? Is that you?
are we ever truly anybody?
Yes you are Alice in a poorly constructed metaphor about a rabbit hole.
Staying on topic though, you may have no mouth and no money but you certainly have a vote. If you're going to try and lynch me as you said you were you should use it.
no I shouldn't voting is counterproductive to obtaining a lynch
Also I will infer from this that your mind is close to made up and that you actually are trying to lynch me.
On August 30 2022 04:51 Dandel Ion wrote: I lack both money and a mouth
Neo? Is that you?
are we ever truly anybody?
Yes you are Alice in a poorly constructed metaphor about a rabbit hole.
Staying on topic though, you may have no mouth and no money but you certainly have a vote. If you're going to try and lynch me as you said you were you should use it.
no I shouldn't voting is counterproductive to obtaining a lynch
In what way?
It scares the sheep "On no I can't believe he's mafia he has more votes than players in the game" plus the later you vote the more townie you are and I only care about how townie I look
Why would you only care about how townie you look? That's a really weird thing to be your main objective. I mean, to me you don't look particularly townie right now, and that's because you say you're trying to look townie.
Why would you assume that people will go off how many votes someone has made without reading into the context? If you're town and your posts show that you're town why should it matter how many votes you make, as long as you can detect some reasoning behind the votes.
On August 30 2022 04:51 Dandel Ion wrote: I lack both money and a mouth
Neo? Is that you?
are we ever truly anybody?
Yes you are Alice in a poorly constructed metaphor about a rabbit hole.
Staying on topic though, you may have no mouth and no money but you certainly have a vote. If you're going to try and lynch me as you said you were you should use it.
no I shouldn't voting is counterproductive to obtaining a lynch
In what way?
It scares the sheep "On no I can't believe he's mafia he has more votes than players in the game" (1)plus the later you vote the more townie you are and (2)I only care about how townie I look
1) since when, and why? 2) when ever have you cared about this?
On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb
What?
But responded to the very next one:
On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote: I'm town
Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else?
But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question
Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused.
He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later)
So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting.
Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless.
I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____
I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back.
deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this:
On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote: Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding.
What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo?
On August 30 2022 04:51 Dandel Ion wrote: I lack both money and a mouth
Neo? Is that you?
are we ever truly anybody?
Yes you are Alice in a poorly constructed metaphor about a rabbit hole.
Staying on topic though, you may have no mouth and no money but you certainly have a vote. If you're going to try and lynch me as you said you were you should use it.
no I shouldn't voting is counterproductive to obtaining a lynch
In what way?
It scares the sheep "On no I can't believe he's mafia he has more votes than players in the game" plus the later you vote the more townie you are and I only care about how townie I look
Why would you only care about how townie you look? That's a really weird thing to be your main objective. I mean, to me you don't look particularly townie right now, and that's because you say you're trying to look townie.
Why would you assume that people will go off how many votes someone has made without reading into the context? If you're town and your posts show that you're town why should it matter how many votes you make, as long as you can detect some reasoning behind the votes.
As town my objective is to not get lynched and if no townie gets lynched mafia get lynched and town wins surely this is not too difficult to understand
idc about your read on my because I am currently lynching you so it will stop mattering in 22 hours
It doesn't make sense to me. If all you want people to know is that you want to look town, that is literally counter productive, because if I think about what mafia want on day 1 its to look town. Its a contradiction in of itself.
On August 30 2022 04:51 Dandel Ion wrote: I lack both money and a mouth
Neo? Is that you?
are we ever truly anybody?
Yes you are Alice in a poorly constructed metaphor about a rabbit hole.
Staying on topic though, you may have no mouth and no money but you certainly have a vote. If you're going to try and lynch me as you said you were you should use it.
no I shouldn't voting is counterproductive to obtaining a lynch
In what way?
It scares the sheep "On no I can't believe he's mafia he has more votes than players in the game" (1)plus the later you vote the more townie you are and (2)I only care about how townie I look
1) since when, and why? 2) when ever have you cared about this?
On August 30 2022 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: [quote] lol?
did you skip HF post on purpose?
Which post and whatsm i supposed to do eith it?
Was wondering why you didn't address this post:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb
What?
But responded to the very next one:
On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote: I'm town
Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else?
But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question
Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused.
He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later)
So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting.
Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless.
I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____
I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back.
deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this:
On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote: Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding.
What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo?
What's the benefit of claiming town?
You didn't answer his question though.
Who, me? If you are referring to me, yes i did, there is none.
On August 30 2022 04:53 Jockmcplop wrote: [quote] Neo? Is that you?
are we ever truly anybody?
Yes you are Alice in a poorly constructed metaphor about a rabbit hole.
Staying on topic though, you may have no mouth and no money but you certainly have a vote. If you're going to try and lynch me as you said you were you should use it.
no I shouldn't voting is counterproductive to obtaining a lynch
In what way?
It scares the sheep "On no I can't believe he's mafia he has more votes than players in the game" plus the later you vote the more townie you are and I only care about how townie I look
Why would you only care about how townie you look? That's a really weird thing to be your main objective. I mean, to me you don't look particularly townie right now, and that's because you say you're trying to look townie.
Why would you assume that people will go off how many votes someone has made without reading into the context? If you're town and your posts show that you're town why should it matter how many votes you make, as long as you can detect some reasoning behind the votes.
As town my objective is to not get lynched and if no townie gets lynched mafia get lynched and town wins surely this is not too difficult to understand
idc about your read on my because I am currently lynching you so it will stop mattering in 22 hours
It doesn't make sense to me. If all you want people to know is that you want to look town, that is literally counter productive, because if I think about what mafia want on day 1 its to look town. Its a contradiction in of itself.
you are correct here.
1: I don't buy what dandel ion is selling. I ain't picking up what he's putting down.
On August 30 2022 05:30 Dandel Ion wrote: what if jock was town and im just reading him as mafia because he convinced himself somehow that town is supposed to look like mafia because only mafia try to look like town
i think im onto something here
hmm There's a huge space between 'looking town being the number 1 objective for town', and 'town should try to look mafia'. I never said town should try to look mafia, I said if you're town and your posts show that you're town you shouldn't have to try, or have it be an objective.
On August 30 2022 05:30 Dandel Ion wrote: what if jock was town and im just reading him as mafia because he convinced himself somehow that town is supposed to look like mafia because only mafia try to look like town
i think im onto something here
hmm There's a huge space between 'looking town being the number 1 objective for town', and 'town should try to look mafia'. I never said town should try to look mafia, I said if you're town and your posts show that you're town you shouldn't have to try, or have it be an objective.
no, nuance is a myth and i am now going to lynch my strongest townread, deconduo, because he looks way too town. observe how i am currently in the process of lynching him
Well I was too until you refused to vote for me! All I wanted was to see how he reacted to it after the little exchange you two had but NOOOOOO dandel ion doesn't want to play.
On August 30 2022 05:30 Dandel Ion wrote: what if jock was town and im just reading him as mafia because he convinced himself somehow that town is supposed to look like mafia because only mafia try to look like town
i think im onto something here
hmm There's a huge space between 'looking town being the number 1 objective for town', and 'town should try to look mafia'. I never said town should try to look mafia, I said if you're town and your posts show that you're town you shouldn't have to try, or have it be an objective.
no, nuance is a myth and i am now going to lynch my strongest townread, deconduo, because he looks way too town. observe how i am currently in the process of lynching him
sarcasm is a mafia tell because they're just trying to play off their posting the truth
On August 30 2022 05:30 Dandel Ion wrote: what if jock was town and im just reading him as mafia because he convinced himself somehow that town is supposed to look like mafia because only mafia try to look like town
i think im onto something here
hmm There's a huge space between 'looking town being the number 1 objective for town', and 'town should try to look mafia'. I never said town should try to look mafia, I said if you're town and your posts show that you're town you shouldn't have to try, or have it be an objective.
no, nuance is a myth and i am now going to lynch my strongest townread, deconduo, because he looks way too town. observe how i am currently in the process of lynching him
sarcasm is a mafia tell because they're just trying to play off their posting the truth
EPT
