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On September 05 2022 23:39 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2022 23:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2022 23:22 Mattchew wrote:On September 05 2022 23:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2022 22:56 Chezinu wrote:On September 05 2022 22:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean, does it look like there are assumed townies who prefer Rels over Tube over Matt, in that case it would be beneficial for mafia to try to change the lynch from Rels/Tube (tied i think) to Mattchew to get the people ultimately end up on Tube. I would agree with Mattchew that people misinterpreted my post. which post? No fucking clue Also holyflare has been my top town and im in his fucking pocket and idk man his posting just feels so townie and im probably bad but i gotta go with it. Chez doesnt have to so shit this game yet still has participated in his chez way so hes probably town Maybe HF is just town if he... is town? :D I don't get this about Chez, he has gotten more participating since the beginning, but it is not too unlike he participates as mafia either, in his own way. Basically he always participates in his own way regardless of alignment. This is probably fair, and a portion of my read is certainly how i like when chez is in the game because he brings a unique style and substance. I could be getting lured into a chez mafia win but i def dont think hes the lynch today atleast
I agree, today is most likely between Rels and Cake.
I like HF, you and surprisingly Vivax.
Slam's prolly mafia too, regardless of Rels / Cake flip.
I don't think Rels and Cake are mafia together, because Cake has been forgetting she could also try to lynch MZ instead of Rels for like every day....
MZ... I dont know early on i though he was town but now i don't really know any more. Fading into surviving if he is mafia tbh.
Jock is just afk, which is just annoying. Can't tell, i though he was town when he was posting.
Chezinu is a wildcard, could see him being mafia, probably not with Cake because he voted for her D1.
If i had to guess right now i would say Rels, Slam, MZ/Jock.
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On September 05 2022 23:43 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2022 23:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I really don't know Mattchew, why is Rels town? Cause i still think mz is town day 1 votes make no sense to me for rels being mafia. So far weve had 3 realistic lynch candidates, decon, mz, rels, tube and me. If they are all town as i suspect, mafia has had it incredibly easy dispersing votes, getting on (or even leading) wagons quickly and not having to hop off. Do you see a team existing of rels and MZ?
I guess i just answered you :D
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On September 05 2022 23:43 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2022 23:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I really don't know Mattchew, why is Rels town? Cause i still think mz is town day 1 votes make no sense to me for rels being mafia. So far weve had 3 realistic lynch candidates, decon, mz, rels, tube and me. If they are all town as i suspect, mafia has had it incredibly easy dispersing votes, getting on (or even leading) wagons quickly and not having to hop off. Do you see a team existing of rels and MZ?
You are assuming townies were very sporadic and moving from place to another like... panicking(?) i dont know what is the right word for that CFD'ish EoD1.
Why does it make it impossible there were 2 mafia wagons if townies still did that? If you get what i mean.
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Tubesock definitely got hammered because of himself. 
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On September 05 2022 23:56 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2022 22:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2022 22:04 Rels wrote:On September 05 2022 22:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2022 21:59 Rels wrote:On September 05 2022 21:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2022 21:37 Rels wrote:
I'm the one going to be lynched by that smoothness if I read the atmosphere correctly, so no
Like, never a big push to derail the wagon. Not yesterday, not today so far. The wagons d3 were predictable even d2 if for some reason tube had flipped mid day or whatever for example How can you even say that when you DIDN'T get lynched either of the days??? What's a big enough derail if not that? I'm saying people are just letting the game go, especially D2 and now D3, and I don't like it I don't know what this means. How did people "let the game go" on D2 in your opinion? D3 is still young so there is plenty of time. Like, do you disagree? I don't know how to put it in better words, but start of D2 a bunch of people voted for Tube, and then the lynch was decided and that was it? I don't think that's how it went at all? D3 is almost mid way. I guess we'll see how it turns out. But please keep that in mind if I'm flipped and you're reading my filter right now Your filter is quite short so yeah, i have read it. Talk to me if you're town. I don't know why you did that shit HF was talking D1 about if you're town, i don't really even know who you think is mafia, i think your case on Cake is quite OMGUS. I can't talk much unfortunately until tonight. Best I can do is sometimes reading my my phone and answering quickly. But youre also, like, not responding to my posts so ... Yesterday your scumread was based on objectivally wrong things that I corrected, and I think you ignored it. You also didn't reply to my earlier question on copcake. So ... Why is cake case omgus? I think at least 2 points I've made are things you also have said (tube 80%town, voting me over mz now). Also you said earlier that you liked cake case on me, but her case is like 95% about mz, with an unflipped association thrown at the end??
Okay not really omgus, i just think you are taking the points some people said during D2 and using them because youre on the chopping block and Cake is the only other option for you now.
Your case on her is about:
- MZ first then Rels so why Rels now first (which is what other people said and afaik it didn't matter to you on D2)
- She voted you on D3 start as she did ALSO on D2 start?????????
- TMI that Tube is town (which other people have also said, but you didn't care during D2)
If this is your answer to my concerns about you:
On September 03 2022 11:47 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2022 18:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:Day 1: On August 31 2022 21:19 Vivax wrote:
I‘ll just assume 3 mafia
180ing on MZ
It‘s tube, jock, MZ imo Rels says Vivax is worth keeping around for now. Come day 2 Rels says Vivax is not anymore worth keeping around and votes for Vivax. Vivax posts: On September 02 2022 11:48 Vivax wrote:
I think Chez and Slam are town
HF, Rayn, Rels, copcake all town
MZ, TS, Jock, Dandel the PoE
Nothing‘s changed from D1
I‘m on Rels for nonsense reasons for the offchance Dandel is scum and it gives him a glimmer of hope
Did I forget anyone? Rels unvotes and now Vivax is worth keeping around. Like come on, ABSOLUTENY NOTHING HAS CHANGED in what Vivax says now and has been saying during D1. Hell he even says it himself, yet this post is something so great it makes Rels unvote Vivax???? That's absolutely false. This is how I reacted to that post: Show nested quote +On September 02 2022 11:52 Rels wrote:On September 02 2022 11:48 Vivax wrote:
I think Chez and Slam are town
HF, Rayn, Rels, copcake all town
MZ, TS, Jock, Dandel the PoE
Nothing‘s changed from D1
I‘m on Rels for nonsense reasons for the offchance Dandel is scum and it gives him a glimmer of hope
Did I forget anyone? Welcome back to the game mate  What do you mean, nothing's changed from D1? Maybe you had random lists here and there but I don't remember a single reasoning? What are your reasons for, like, all of these? :p Especially Chez TBH? So, that Vivax post is NOT why I currently think he might be town. It's the follow up conversation after that.
Then you have definitely not answered them.
The whole post is to show that Vivax made reads XYZ - you called him mafia after that, then he made the same reads again (again with no explanation) and you called him town for it.
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Or worth keeping around, whatever.
Like Vivax literally posts a list of names, you want to vig him
He does the same list than before even says NOTHING HAS CHANGED
You are okay with it and want to keep him around.
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Your case on her is about:
- MZ first then Rels so why Rels now first (which is what other people said and afaik it didn't matter to you on D2)
- She voted you on D3 start as she did ALSO on D2 start?????????
- TMI that Tube is town (which other people have also said, but you didn't care during D2)
I am not even saying it is the worst case but it looks quite preconceived when you didn't give a shit about that earlier on in the game.
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On September 06 2022 00:19 Rels wrote:
"afaik it didn't matter to you on D2"
Demonstrably false. Please read my d2 filter
I did.
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On September 06 2022 00:20 Rels wrote:
Also, I don't think anyone else made the first point in my case, so you saying I'm parroting people is also wrong
No you have not parroted other people after Koshi on the "read" on Vivax.
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On September 06 2022 00:18 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2022 00:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2022 23:56 Rels wrote:On September 05 2022 22:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2022 22:04 Rels wrote:On September 05 2022 22:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2022 21:59 Rels wrote:On September 05 2022 21:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2022 21:37 Rels wrote:
I'm the one going to be lynched by that smoothness if I read the atmosphere correctly, so no
Like, never a big push to derail the wagon. Not yesterday, not today so far. The wagons d3 were predictable even d2 if for some reason tube had flipped mid day or whatever for example How can you even say that when you DIDN'T get lynched either of the days??? What's a big enough derail if not that? I'm saying people are just letting the game go, especially D2 and now D3, and I don't like it I don't know what this means. How did people "let the game go" on D2 in your opinion? D3 is still young so there is plenty of time. Like, do you disagree? I don't know how to put it in better words, but start of D2 a bunch of people voted for Tube, and then the lynch was decided and that was it? I don't think that's how it went at all? D3 is almost mid way. I guess we'll see how it turns out. But please keep that in mind if I'm flipped and you're reading my filter right now Your filter is quite short so yeah, i have read it. Talk to me if you're town. I don't know why you did that shit HF was talking D1 about if you're town, i don't really even know who you think is mafia, i think your case on Cake is quite OMGUS. I can't talk much unfortunately until tonight. Best I can do is sometimes reading my my phone and answering quickly. But youre also, like, not responding to my posts so ... Yesterday your scumread was based on objectivally wrong things that I corrected, and I think you ignored it. You also didn't reply to my earlier question on copcake. So ... Why is cake case omgus? I think at least 2 points I've made are things you also have said (tube 80%town, voting me over mz now). Also you said earlier that you liked cake case on me, but her case is like 95% about mz, with an unflipped association thrown at the end?? Okay not really omgus, i just think you are taking the points some people said during D2 and using them because youre on the chopping block and Cake is the only other option for you now. Your case on her is about: - MZ first then Rels so why Rels now first (which is what other people said and afaik it didn't matter to you on D2) - She voted you on D3 start as she did ALSO on D2 start????????? - TMI that Tube is town (which other people have also said, but you didn't care during D2) If this is your answer to my concerns about you: On September 03 2022 11:47 Rels wrote:On September 02 2022 18:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:Day 1: On August 31 2022 21:19 Vivax wrote:
I‘ll just assume 3 mafia
180ing on MZ
It‘s tube, jock, MZ imo Rels says Vivax is worth keeping around for now. Come day 2 Rels says Vivax is not anymore worth keeping around and votes for Vivax. Vivax posts: On September 02 2022 11:48 Vivax wrote:
I think Chez and Slam are town
HF, Rayn, Rels, copcake all town
MZ, TS, Jock, Dandel the PoE
Nothing‘s changed from D1
I‘m on Rels for nonsense reasons for the offchance Dandel is scum and it gives him a glimmer of hope
Did I forget anyone? Rels unvotes and now Vivax is worth keeping around. Like come on, ABSOLUTENY NOTHING HAS CHANGED in what Vivax says now and has been saying during D1. Hell he even says it himself, yet this post is something so great it makes Rels unvote Vivax???? That's absolutely false. This is how I reacted to that post: On September 02 2022 11:52 Rels wrote:On September 02 2022 11:48 Vivax wrote:
I think Chez and Slam are town
HF, Rayn, Rels, copcake all town
MZ, TS, Jock, Dandel the PoE
Nothing‘s changed from D1
I‘m on Rels for nonsense reasons for the offchance Dandel is scum and it gives him a glimmer of hope
Did I forget anyone? Welcome back to the game mate What do you mean, nothing's changed from D1? Maybe you had random lists here and there but I don't remember a single reasoning? What are your reasons for, like, all of these? :p Especially Chez TBH? So, that Vivax post is NOT why I currently think he might be town. It's the follow up conversation after that. Then you have definitely not answered them. The whole post is to show that Vivax made reads XYZ - you called him mafia after that, then he made the same reads again (again with no explanation) and you called him town for it.
How sure are you of this?
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or bluehunt, mafia has not hit any blue in the game.
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Why would mafia kill Dandel if they don't think he is blue and he is very wrong AND he is a mislynch target?
MZ?
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On September 06 2022 00:59 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2022 23:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2022 23:39 Mattchew wrote:On September 05 2022 23:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2022 23:22 Mattchew wrote:On September 05 2022 23:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2022 22:56 Chezinu wrote:On September 05 2022 22:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean, does it look like there are assumed townies who prefer Rels over Tube over Matt, in that case it would be beneficial for mafia to try to change the lynch from Rels/Tube (tied i think) to Mattchew to get the people ultimately end up on Tube. I would agree with Mattchew that people misinterpreted my post. which post? No fucking clue Also holyflare has been my top town and im in his fucking pocket and idk man his posting just feels so townie and im probably bad but i gotta go with it. Chez doesnt have to so shit this game yet still has participated in his chez way so hes probably town Maybe HF is just town if he... is town? :D I don't get this about Chez, he has gotten more participating since the beginning, but it is not too unlike he participates as mafia either, in his own way. Basically he always participates in his own way regardless of alignment. This is probably fair, and a portion of my read is certainly how i like when chez is in the game because he brings a unique style and substance. I could be getting lured into a chez mafia win but i def dont think hes the lynch today atleast I agree, today is most likely between Rels and Cake. I like HF, you and surprisingly Vivax. Slam's prolly mafia too, regardless of Rels / Cake flip. I don't think Rels and Cake are mafia together, because Cake has been forgetting she could also try to lynch MZ instead of Rels for like every day.... MZ... I dont know early on i though he was town but now i don't really know any more. Fading into surviving if he is mafia tbh. Jock is just afk, which is just annoying. Can't tell, i though he was town when he was posting. Chezinu is a wildcard, could see him being mafia, probably not with Cake because he voted for her D1. If i had to guess right now i would say Rels, Slam, MZ/Jock. Oh wow, I though of the Slam + Jock too but didn't say it. If that was the case, I would throw in Vivax. Sorry
It could be but i promised not to call Vivax mafia for 24 hours so...
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On September 06 2022 01:01 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2022 00:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
or bluehunt, mafia has not hit any blue in the game. See I'm innocent.
See i am not sure, that's why i kinda think Vivax is innocent.
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On September 06 2022 01:05 Chezinu wrote:
Mattchew, do you know that I am town cause you are mafia?
Is this the opposite Chezinu rule? :O
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On September 06 2022 01:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2022 00:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why would mafia kill Dandel if they don't think he is blue and he is very wrong AND he is a mislynch target?
MZ? I'm not sure I understand your question. I get that they could have been hunting for blues but he could have just as easily been a mislynch today and they could have shot someone like you or HF. Which when looking at dead Koshi's reads I'm starting to think that Dandel was more right than wrong. Scum rels/scum slam also kinda works.
You entertained that Dandel was either very right or very wrong (he basically said rels is mafia and that's it lol).
You also entertained he could be mislynched easily because he was on many people's lynch list.
You didn't entertain a bluehunt scenario.
So based on this:
Dandel was on several people's scum lists. In my mind dandel either gets killed because he was very right or very wrong.
Why does Dandel get killed if he is very wrong in your mind?
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How can you think Dandel gets killed if he is very wrong (Rels) as he is always +1 vote on Rels AND a possible counter wagon / mislynch target? That doesnt make any sense at all for mafia to kill a person like that.
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On September 06 2022 01:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
if he's very wrong, dandel gets killed to help drive a lynch on rels, since he was screaming from the top of the tower that rels was scum. If rels is town it just helps the mislynch go a bit smoother.
I am trying to understand this properly... i mean from both pov. but i dont think youre representing both of them? :D
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so you basically just said rels is town right?
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