On January 26 2021 05:58 Hapahauli wrote: Happy to host a super-mini if y'all want to play. Also happy to wait. Your choice.
I've past being upset. I won't have any time until like mid summer. If this doesn't start until after February I'll have a better idea. I'm ok with being the resident lurker :p..
On January 26 2021 05:23 ShoCkeyy wrote: 1v3 lets gooo
Seems like that'd be a meh game. Maybe with a Doc in the mix it'd be interesting.
Otherwise, my levels of apathy are astounding.
Spent way longer than I care to figure out on Traitor Lord but am otherwise on a cleanup phase before finishing Hollow Knight. Wish I had something to spend my 10k+ Geo on.
Thankfully this started right after all my meetings. Literally have been in 4 meetings, all an hour long. Holy fuck what a drain. Anyways. Hi, I'm VT. Going to try my best in figuring out who's mafia and needs to be lynched. The first person I want to question is Rayn.
I'm feeling like I got shot in the spine for a week now and can barely do anything. It's like fast forwarding to being 90. /rant
That said if mafia had a kill I'd have said we should all shut up for the night. What's the game plan here with this setup? Ideas? Getting an agreement on a single target both cops should be checking doesn't seem like a good idea with the framer.
On April 17 2021 05:38 Vivax wrote: I'm feeling like I got shot in the spine for a week now and can barely do anything. It's like fast forwarding to being 90. /rant
That said if mafia had a kill I'd have said we should all shut up for the night. What's the game plan here with this setup? Ideas? Getting an agreement on a single target both cops should be checking doesn't seem like a good idea with the framer.
What are you trying to sniff out here? I don't think agreeing on a single target is going to be useful where mafia can frame...
On April 17 2021 05:38 Vivax wrote: I'm feeling like I got shot in the spine for a week now and can barely do anything. It's like fast forwarding to being 90. /rant
That said if mafia had a kill I'd have said we should all shut up for the night. What's the game plan here with this setup? Ideas? Getting an agreement on a single target both cops should be checking doesn't seem like a good idea with the framer.
What are you trying to sniff out here? I don't think agreeing on a single target is going to be useful where mafia can frame...
On April 17 2021 04:06 ShoCkeyy wrote: Thankfully this started right after all my meetings. Literally have been in 4 meetings, all an hour long. Holy fuck what a drain. Anyways. Hi, I'm VT. Going to try my best in figuring out who's mafia and needs to be lynched. The first person I want to question is Rayn.
On April 18 2021 15:51 Tictock wrote: I just don't want to play claim wars, I've never wanted to.
That's not what mafia is about to me.
It is not about it being claim wars. The game is unsolvable with claims or checks. However it gives us advantage in opposition to the situation as it is now. Do not worry, there needs to be and will be scumhunting. The idea however is that because of the roles being "useless" -- since even if youre a cop you dont know and cant know which cop you are (basically meaning there should pretty much never be any trust to any check) -- you have the option to do this:
Instead of (from townies perspective) figuring out who are 2 mafia in a pool of 7 players you have to either: - Figure out who is one mafia in a pool of X players and one mafia in a pool of Y players, or - Figure out who are two mafia in a pool of A players and you instantly have B players who are clear
Both of those options are better than trying to figure out who are 2 mafia in 7 players, because the logical deduction becomes easier, especially if/when we manage to lynch mafia.
I think it is pretty obtuse to not try to use the mechanics to your advantage, it's like saying in a normal game that you didnt use your cop role because you think it's unfair... The why join a game like that at all?
On April 10 2021 10:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: fu is 7 better than 6? if it is i /in, if not /obs
On April 13 2021 02:28 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Add another player binch I’m in now
Honestly I'm more inclined to take issue with the 2 people who insulted Hapa as part of their /ins being the 2 people who seem to least want to play this game.
On April 18 2021 15:51 Tictock wrote: I just don't want to play claim wars, I've never wanted to.
That's not what mafia is about to me.
It is not about it being claim wars. The game is unsolvable with claims or checks. However it gives us advantage in opposition to the situation as it is now. Do not worry, there needs to be and will be scumhunting. The idea however is that because of the roles being "useless" -- since even if youre a cop you dont know and cant know which cop you are (basically meaning there should pretty much never be any trust to any check) -- you have the option to do this:
Instead of (from townies perspective) figuring out who are 2 mafia in a pool of 7 players you have to either: - Figure out who is one mafia in a pool of X players and one mafia in a pool of Y players, or - Figure out who are two mafia in a pool of A players and you instantly have B players who are clear
Both of those options are better than trying to figure out who are 2 mafia in 7 players, because the logical deduction becomes easier, especially if/when we manage to lynch mafia.
I think it is pretty obtuse to not try to use the mechanics to your advantage, it's like saying in a normal game that you didnt use your cop role because you think it's unfair... The why join a game like that at all?
I don't have an issue with roles, or claims being part of the game.
But forcing the game to be about Mass Claims D1 feels against the spirit of the game to me.
I don't care if it's the "fastest path to victory"
On April 13 2021 02:28 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Add another player binch I’m in now
Honestly I'm more inclined to take issue with the 2 people who insulted Hapa as part of their /ins being the 2 people who seem to least want to play this game.
Disrespectful
I know rayn is playing, but
On April 18 2021 12:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: First time ever i dont remember i joined a game. :D
On April 18 2021 15:51 Tictock wrote: I just don't want to play claim wars, I've never wanted to.
That's not what mafia is about to me.
It is not about it being claim wars. The game is unsolvable with claims or checks. However it gives us advantage in opposition to the situation as it is now. Do not worry, there needs to be and will be scumhunting. The idea however is that because of the roles being "useless" -- since even if youre a cop you dont know and cant know which cop you are (basically meaning there should pretty much never be any trust to any check) -- you have the option to do this:
Instead of (from townies perspective) figuring out who are 2 mafia in a pool of 7 players you have to either: - Figure out who is one mafia in a pool of X players and one mafia in a pool of Y players, or - Figure out who are two mafia in a pool of A players and you instantly have B players who are clear
Both of those options are better than trying to figure out who are 2 mafia in 7 players, because the logical deduction becomes easier, especially if/when we manage to lynch mafia.
I think it is pretty obtuse to not try to use the mechanics to your advantage, it's like saying in a normal game that you didnt use your cop role because you think it's unfair... The why join a game like that at all?
I can get behind this
Assuming all claims we either end up with 2 cop claims and lynch out of 5 or we end up with more than 2 cop claims and what rayn said
On April 17 2021 05:38 Vivax wrote: I'm feeling like I got shot in the spine for a week now and can barely do anything. It's like fast forwarding to being 90. /rant
That said if mafia had a kill I'd have said we should all shut up for the night. What's the game plan here with this setup? Ideas? Getting an agreement on a single target both cops should be checking doesn't seem like a good idea with the framer.
I had an idea on how to play this game but unfortunately it is for a different setup. Useful much?
On April 17 2021 05:38 Vivax wrote: I'm feeling like I got shot in the spine for a week now and can barely do anything. It's like fast forwarding to being 90. /rant
That said if mafia had a kill I'd have said we should all shut up for the night. What's the game plan here with this setup? Ideas? Getting an agreement on a single target both cops should be checking doesn't seem like a good idea with the framer.
What are you trying to sniff out here? I don't think agreeing on a single target is going to be useful where mafia can frame...
jumpy much?
Saying nothing here.
On April 18 2021 05:19 Vivax wrote: Yeah I want to play but it's hard to tell if the game filled lol.
Maybe rayn got conceded.
Something useless about an inactive.
On April 18 2021 15:59 Vivax wrote: Should prolly wait for Dr. Herpetica to post too before pestering rayn.
Again something useless about an inactive. Now here is the crucial part, at this point of the game i have done what Vivax asked and gave a strategy for the game. Me and TT have discussed it. Also TT has given a read on shockeyy. There actually IS stuff happening in the game, two things, both of what Vivax has shown interest in. Next he says:
On April 18 2021 18:10 Vivax wrote: The two reactions to my posts so far are just lack of reading comprehension. 1 x by shockeyy and 1 x by rayn.
I was dessiccating waiting for someone to point out the one instance by shock.
Let's say Vivax is indeed talking to TT instead of me in his "pestering" post. That doesn't even make any sense since -- once again -- TT has discussed the game plan with me (which Vivax showed interest in his first post in the game already), and TT has made a read on shockeyy (which Vivax here claims he was interested in already -- in shockyy as in " waiting for someone to point out the one instance by shock"). He doesn't take any stance or show any interest in any of the things discussed by me or TT, and brushes the whole discussion off by saying that we should wait for DrH to post.
Why on earth should we ever wait DrH to post for ANY reason at this point???? Either me, or TT, or any other player in the game??? It doesn't make any sense at all unless Vivax is just posting nonsense for the sake of posting. Basically everything he has said has been just filler posts about inactives and the things he has shown even relative interest in, when people start talking about it he doesnt actually want to talk about it "because DrH hasnt posted". I think that's quite bs and i think it makes him mafia.
That being said i am going to consider sentinel and shockeyy confirmed town until someone comes and says "hey i am a VT at least on of you must be a liar". Sorry TT if you dont like this (especially since you dont sound like mafia this game) but i am not gonna pass an opportunity to use the setup to my advantage if it allows it.
On April 18 2021 15:51 Tictock wrote: I just don't want to play claim wars, I've never wanted to.
That's not what mafia is about to me.
It is not about it being claim wars. The game is unsolvable with claims or checks. However it gives us advantage in opposition to the situation as it is now. Do not worry, there needs to be and will be scumhunting. The idea however is that because of the roles being "useless" -- since even if youre a cop you dont know and cant know which cop you are (basically meaning there should pretty much never be any trust to any check) -- you have the option to do this:
Instead of (from townies perspective) figuring out who are 2 mafia in a pool of 7 players you have to either: - Figure out who is one mafia in a pool of X players and one mafia in a pool of Y players, or - Figure out who are two mafia in a pool of A players and you instantly have B players who are clear
Both of those options are better than trying to figure out who are 2 mafia in 7 players, because the logical deduction becomes easier, especially if/when we manage to lynch mafia.
I think it is pretty obtuse to not try to use the mechanics to your advantage, it's like saying in a normal game that you didnt use your cop role because you think it's unfair... The why join a game like that at all?
Rayn overexplained my shitposting and feels like he needs to make a case out of it.
TT cites something irrelevant to the conclusions he's making (=I'm scum) with no discernable logic behind it so that looks like a half-assed + 1 to rayns summary from where I'm standing. As if that's the best thing he could come up with while agreeing to vote me without saying he was voting me for rayn's reasons.
Shockeyy right at the beginning of the day somehow manages to not realize I was having the same opinion as him while accusing me of sniffing something out, for some reason.
On April 17 2021 05:38 Vivax wrote: I'm feeling like I got shot in the spine for a week now and can barely do anything. It's like fast forwarding to being 90. /rant
That said if mafia had a kill I'd have said we should all shut up for the night. What's the game plan here with this setup? Ideas? Getting an agreement on a single target both cops should be checking doesn't seem like a good idea with the framer.
What are you trying to sniff out here? I don't think agreeing on a single target is going to be useful where mafia can frame...
I don't know who's town of you three but whoever is, is playing very lazily.
On April 18 2021 15:51 Tictock wrote: I just don't want to play claim wars, I've never wanted to.
That's not what mafia is about to me.
It is not about it being claim wars. The game is unsolvable with claims or checks. However it gives us advantage in opposition to the situation as it is now. Do not worry, there needs to be and will be scumhunting. The idea however is that because of the roles being "useless" -- since even if youre a cop you dont know and cant know which cop you are (basically meaning there should pretty much never be any trust to any check) -- you have the option to do this:
Instead of (from townies perspective) figuring out who are 2 mafia in a pool of 7 players you have to either: - Figure out who is one mafia in a pool of X players and one mafia in a pool of Y players, or - Figure out who are two mafia in a pool of A players and you instantly have B players who are clear
Both of those options are better than trying to figure out who are 2 mafia in 7 players, because the logical deduction becomes easier, especially if/when we manage to lynch mafia.
I think it is pretty obtuse to not try to use the mechanics to your advantage, it's like saying in a normal game that you didnt use your cop role because you think it's unfair... The why join a game like that at all?
Rayn is scum, TT is town, we win
I'm in Shockeyy + Sent world or one of them + DrH right now.
Because I'm sure Shockeyy is reading the thread but just choosing not to post. Sent on the other hand just doesn't have an opinion on anything or make himself attackable for anything.
TT + rayn just going for stuff that doesn't people mafia, but not unlikely to be from town for now. Currently I think it's the usual fallacy where townies get hooked on stuff active people post because they forgot yet again that they can't find anything if you don't give them anything. Then because they're wrong they do stuff that isn't logical and get called mafia for it and the cycle perpetuates etc.
So I'm trying to not perpetuate that cycle just cause they're wrong on me or do stuff suggestive of mafia like reading early posts in a tryhard context or mentioning something 1. illogical and 2. irrelevant to the read on me like TT did.
On April 19 2021 16:22 Vivax wrote: Rayn overexplained my shitposting and feels like he needs to make a case out of it.
TT cites something irrelevant to the conclusions he's making (=I'm scum) with no discernable logic behind it so that looks like a half-assed + 1 to rayns summary from where I'm standing. As if that's the best thing he could come up with while agreeing to vote me without saying he was voting me for rayn's reasons.
Shockeyy right at the beginning of the day somehow manages to not realize I was having the same opinion as him while accusing me of sniffing something out, for some reason.
On April 17 2021 05:38 Vivax wrote: I'm feeling like I got shot in the spine for a week now and can barely do anything. It's like fast forwarding to being 90. /rant
That said if mafia had a kill I'd have said we should all shut up for the night. What's the game plan here with this setup? Ideas? Getting an agreement on a single target both cops should be checking doesn't seem like a good idea with the framer.
What are you trying to sniff out here? I don't think agreeing on a single target is going to be useful where mafia can frame...
I don't know who's town of you three but whoever is, is playing very lazily.
Lmao, so you have no opinion on who is town but call us lazy?
Please excuse me for actually doing anything in this game where less than 12 hours left in a 3 day cycle almost nobody has voted or stated clear opinions.
On April 19 2021 16:22 Vivax wrote: Rayn overexplained my shitposting and feels like he needs to make a case out of it.
TT cites something irrelevant to the conclusions he's making (=I'm scum) with no discernable logic behind it so that looks like a half-assed + 1 to rayns summary from where I'm standing. As if that's the best thing he could come up with while agreeing to vote me without saying he was voting me for rayn's reasons.
Shockeyy right at the beginning of the day somehow manages to not realize I was having the same opinion as him while accusing me of sniffing something out, for some reason.
On April 17 2021 06:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On April 17 2021 05:38 Vivax wrote: I'm feeling like I got shot in the spine for a week now and can barely do anything. It's like fast forwarding to being 90. /rant
That said if mafia had a kill I'd have said we should all shut up for the night. What's the game plan here with this setup? Ideas? Getting an agreement on a single target both cops should be checking doesn't seem like a good idea with the framer.
What are you trying to sniff out here? I don't think agreeing on a single target is going to be useful where mafia can frame...
I don't know who's town of you three but whoever is, is playing very lazily.
Lmao, so you have no opinion on who is town but call us lazy?
Please excuse me for actually doing anything in this game where less than 12 hours left in a 3 day cycle almost nobody has voted or stated clear opinions.
How did I imply that i don't think Shock + rayn are mafia for saying they didn't read properly? Is it your experience that mafia never misreads or skips things or how otherwise did you arrive to that conclusion?
On April 19 2021 16:22 Vivax wrote: Rayn overexplained my shitposting and feels like he needs to make a case out of it.
TT cites something irrelevant to the conclusions he's making (=I'm scum) with no discernable logic behind it so that looks like a half-assed + 1 to rayns summary from where I'm standing. As if that's the best thing he could come up with while agreeing to vote me without saying he was voting me for rayn's reasons.
Shockeyy right at the beginning of the day somehow manages to not realize I was having the same opinion as him while accusing me of sniffing something out, for some reason.
On April 17 2021 05:38 Vivax wrote: I'm feeling like I got shot in the spine for a week now and can barely do anything. It's like fast forwarding to being 90. /rant
That said if mafia had a kill I'd have said we should all shut up for the night. What's the game plan here with this setup? Ideas? Getting an agreement on a single target both cops should be checking doesn't seem like a good idea with the framer.
What are you trying to sniff out here? I don't think agreeing on a single target is going to be useful where mafia can frame...
I don't know who's town of you three but whoever is, is playing very lazily.
I asked you a question, which you didn’t answer, and then I agreed with you. How is that a problem?
On April 19 2021 16:22 Vivax wrote: Rayn overexplained my shitposting and feels like he needs to make a case out of it.
TT cites something irrelevant to the conclusions he's making (=I'm scum) with no discernable logic behind it so that looks like a half-assed + 1 to rayns summary from where I'm standing. As if that's the best thing he could come up with while agreeing to vote me without saying he was voting me for rayn's reasons.
Shockeyy right at the beginning of the day somehow manages to not realize I was having the same opinion as him while accusing me of sniffing something out, for some reason.
On April 17 2021 06:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On April 17 2021 05:38 Vivax wrote: I'm feeling like I got shot in the spine for a week now and can barely do anything. It's like fast forwarding to being 90. /rant
That said if mafia had a kill I'd have said we should all shut up for the night. What's the game plan here with this setup? Ideas? Getting an agreement on a single target both cops should be checking doesn't seem like a good idea with the framer.
What are you trying to sniff out here? I don't think agreeing on a single target is going to be useful where mafia can frame...
I don't know who's town of you three but whoever is, is playing very lazily.
I asked you a question, which you didn’t answer, and then I agreed with you. How is that a problem?
That's not worded at all as if you were agreeing with me.
On April 19 2021 16:22 Vivax wrote: Rayn overexplained my shitposting and feels like he needs to make a case out of it.
TT cites something irrelevant to the conclusions he's making (=I'm scum) with no discernable logic behind it so that looks like a half-assed + 1 to rayns summary from where I'm standing. As if that's the best thing he could come up with while agreeing to vote me without saying he was voting me for rayn's reasons.
Shockeyy right at the beginning of the day somehow manages to not realize I was having the same opinion as him while accusing me of sniffing something out, for some reason.
On April 17 2021 06:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On April 17 2021 05:38 Vivax wrote: I'm feeling like I got shot in the spine for a week now and can barely do anything. It's like fast forwarding to being 90. /rant
That said if mafia had a kill I'd have said we should all shut up for the night. What's the game plan here with this setup? Ideas? Getting an agreement on a single target both cops should be checking doesn't seem like a good idea with the framer.
What are you trying to sniff out here? I don't think agreeing on a single target is going to be useful where mafia can frame...
I don't know who's town of you three but whoever is, is playing very lazily.
I asked you a question, which you didn’t answer, and then I agreed with you. How is that a problem?
That's not worded at all as if you were agreeing with me.
We’re literally saying the same thing, how is that not agreeing?
On April 19 2021 16:22 Vivax wrote: Rayn overexplained my shitposting and feels like he needs to make a case out of it.
TT cites something irrelevant to the conclusions he's making (=I'm scum) with no discernable logic behind it so that looks like a half-assed + 1 to rayns summary from where I'm standing. As if that's the best thing he could come up with while agreeing to vote me without saying he was voting me for rayn's reasons.
Shockeyy right at the beginning of the day somehow manages to not realize I was having the same opinion as him while accusing me of sniffing something out, for some reason.
On April 17 2021 06:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On April 17 2021 05:38 Vivax wrote: I'm feeling like I got shot in the spine for a week now and can barely do anything. It's like fast forwarding to being 90. /rant
That said if mafia had a kill I'd have said we should all shut up for the night. What's the game plan here with this setup? Ideas? Getting an agreement on a single target both cops should be checking doesn't seem like a good idea with the framer.
What are you trying to sniff out here? I don't think agreeing on a single target is going to be useful where mafia can frame...
I don't know who's town of you three but whoever is, is playing very lazily.
I asked you a question, which you didn’t answer, and then I agreed with you. How is that a problem?
That's not worded at all as if you were agreeing with me.
We’re literally saying the same thing, how is that not agreeing?
So when you agree with someone you just ask them what they're trying to sniff out, then repeat what they just said? Okay, interesting. Are you more of a dog or a cat person?
Either way I won't be around this EoD I'm afraid. I'll just be voting off the crazy bro who went on a posting spree all over the website and then disappeared.
On April 20 2021 00:13 Vivax wrote: Dunno rayn pushing me early would be a town rayn thibg to do. I don‘t feel him being a d1 lynch here. Why go for rayn here and not a less risky lynch?
Well. Slam's basically a cop, so is TT. I believe shockeyy and sentinel claims since noone is calling (one or more) of us liar, which should be done if youre vt.
Slam just doesnt get this game cannot be solved with checks 99,9%. But thats okay.
Vivax hilariously suspects a mafia team of TWO unccd VTs when noone has shown any interest of saying one of us is lying. He should do that if he is VT 100% of the time so Vivax is not VT. If and when vivax is not VT he should never as town suspect the pool of unccd players.
Easily best chance Vivax + DrH, DrH is not a bad lynch here imo but i dont play to lynch no posters. I can prolly be arpund for last hour of the phase but thats mu 2c and i doubt anything is gonna change.
If i am mafia i cannot be mafia with DrH because DrH needs to be the remaining VT, and i am definitely not mafia with slam or vivax or any other VT claim.
On April 18 2021 15:51 Tictock wrote: I just don't want to play claim wars, I've never wanted to.
That's not what mafia is about to me.
It is not about it being claim wars. The game is unsolvable with claims or checks. However it gives us advantage in opposition to the situation as it is now. Do not worry, there needs to be and will be scumhunting. The idea however is that because of the roles being "useless" -- since even if youre a cop you dont know and cant know which cop you are (basically meaning there should pretty much never be any trust to any check) -- you have the option to do this:
Instead of (from townies perspective) figuring out who are 2 mafia in a pool of 7 players you have to either: - Figure out who is one mafia in a pool of X players and one mafia in a pool of Y players, or - Figure out who are two mafia in a pool of A players and you instantly have B players who are clear
Both of those options are better than trying to figure out who are 2 mafia in 7 players, because the logical deduction becomes easier, especially if/when we manage to lynch mafia.
I think it is pretty obtuse to not try to use the mechanics to your advantage, it's like saying in a normal game that you didnt use your cop role because you think it's unfair... The why join a game like that at all?
Rayn is scum, TT is town, we win
I'm in Shockeyy + Sent world or one of them + DrH right now.
Because I'm sure Shockeyy is reading the thread but just choosing not to post. Sent on the other hand just doesn't have an opinion on anything or make himself attackable for anything.
TT + rayn just going for stuff that doesn't people mafia, but not unlikely to be from town for now. Currently I think it's the usual fallacy where townies get hooked on stuff active people post because they forgot yet again that they can't find anything if you don't give them anything. Then because they're wrong they do stuff that isn't logical and get called mafia for it and the cycle perpetuates etc.
So I'm trying to not perpetuate that cycle just cause they're wrong on me or do stuff suggestive of mafia like reading early posts in a tryhard context or mentioning something 1. illogical and 2. irrelevant to the read on me like TT did.
I don't see anything wrong with this
FWIW I am busy yesterday + today but promise to be more active starting tomorrow evening, both because I will have free time but also because it won't be Day 1 anymore
But at least for now my finger of suspicion is on TT for being in the thread without really doing anything
Worked like 20 hours over the weekend and I dont feel like doing anything today, this game included.
Rayn and Slam seem like they are town to me, Sho/Vivax is my guess for the scum team
Already said my only thought re:DrH, Vivax pushing him just seems defensive and a little desperate to me. As in he doesn't want to make reads and so pushes the guy who hasn't posted.
On April 17 2021 04:06 ShoCkeyy wrote: Thankfully this started right after all my meetings. Literally have been in 4 meetings, all an hour long. Holy fuck what a drain. Anyways. Hi, I'm VT. Going to try my best in figuring out who's mafia and needs to be lynched. The first person I want to question is Rayn.
Rayn, why are you AFK?
When you have nothing to say.
What a joke. I open the game with some inside joke between Rayn and I and TT then thrashes me for it, then goes and does the same exact thing anyways. Lol...
On April 20 2021 04:05 Tictock wrote: Already said my only thought re:DrH, Vivax pushing him just seems defensive and a little desperate to me. As in he doesn't want to make reads and so pushes the guy who hasn't posted.
I dont think Vivax is really pushing him. He is or was just using him as an excuse to not do anything when he could have actually done something useful..
Still, i think if Vivax genuinely feels like two mafia is in shockeyy/Sentinel/drh he HAS to be VT. He like literally has to be, and if he was he would come out (or had already did that) and say he is a VT. Otherwise it doesnt make any sense because there is simply NEVER two mafia in those three people and Vivax should know that.
Unless one of Slam / TT is being really really stupid rn and not claiming VT while being one. But i dont really see that too since i dont understand why they would let us (or at least me) look into wrong places.
This is still the situation: me, shockeyy and sentinel have claimed VT. If someone knows at least one of us is lying they should come out and say that!!!! It is the right thing to do because chekcs are never ever gonna solve this game. Cops would need to randomly check into same person AND neither of them would have to get roleblocked. It is basically impossible. Therefore there cannot be two mafia in me/sentinel/shockeyy/drh. That's how it is. Hell there cannot even be ONE mafia unless drh happens to be VT.
On April 20 2021 05:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: Next time please put the countdown timer as you promise so i know when the deadline is. Stupid DST always.
This, totes my bad... but wow on the vivax kill :\
On April 20 2021 05:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: Next time please put the countdown timer as you promise so i know when the deadline is. Stupid DST always.
On April 20 2021 05:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: Still, i think if Vivax genuinely feels like two mafia is in shockeyy/Sentinel/drh he HAS to be VT. He like literally has to be, and if he was he would come out (or had already did that) and say he is a VT. Otherwise it doesnt make any sense because there is simply NEVER two mafia in those three people and Vivax should know that.
Unless one of Slam / TT is being really really stupid rn and not claiming VT while being one. But i dont really see that too since i dont understand why they would let us (or at least me) look into wrong places.
This is still the situation: me, shockeyy and sentinel have claimed VT. If someone knows at least one of us is lying they should come out and say that!!!! It is the right thing to do because chekcs are never ever gonna solve this game. Cops would need to randomly check into same person AND neither of them would have to get roleblocked. It is basically impossible. Therefore there cannot be two mafia in me/sentinel/shockeyy/drh. That's how it is. Hell there cannot even be ONE mafia unless drh happens to be VT.
On April 20 2021 05:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: Still, i think if Vivax genuinely feels like two mafia is in shockeyy/Sentinel/drh he HAS to be VT. He like literally has to be, and if he was he would come out (or had already did that) and say he is a VT. Otherwise it doesnt make any sense because there is simply NEVER two mafia in those three people and Vivax should know that.
Unless one of Slam / TT is being really really stupid rn and not claiming VT while being one. But i dont really see that too since i dont understand why they would let us (or at least me) look into wrong places.
This is still the situation: me, shockeyy and sentinel have claimed VT. If someone knows at least one of us is lying they should come out and say that!!!! It is the right thing to do because chekcs are never ever gonna solve this game. Cops would need to randomly check into same person AND neither of them would have to get roleblocked. It is basically impossible. Therefore there cannot be two mafia in me/sentinel/shockeyy/drh. That's how it is. Hell there cannot even be ONE mafia unless drh happens to be VT.
On April 20 2021 05:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: Still, i think if Vivax genuinely feels like two mafia is in shockeyy/Sentinel/drh he HAS to be VT. He like literally has to be, and if he was he would come out (or had already did that) and say he is a VT. Otherwise it doesnt make any sense because there is simply NEVER two mafia in those three people and Vivax should know that.
Unless one of Slam / TT is being really really stupid rn and not claiming VT while being one. But i dont really see that too since i dont understand why they would let us (or at least me) look into wrong places.
This is still the situation: me, shockeyy and sentinel have claimed VT. If someone knows at least one of us is lying they should come out and say that!!!! It is the right thing to do because chekcs are never ever gonna solve this game. Cops would need to randomly check into same person AND neither of them would have to get roleblocked. It is basically impossible. Therefore there cannot be two mafia in me/sentinel/shockeyy/drh. That's how it is. Hell there cannot even be ONE mafia unless drh happens to be VT.
You and drh are effectively clear. Two out of shockeyy/sentinel/me need to be mafia. I dont care which one of those two you want to vote, if you want to change to sentinel (if you think there is a chance i am mafia) i am also up for it. Just make sure i am here when you vote since we have to assume drh is not gonna be here this phase either. rn we kill shockeyy with having voted first even if/when him and shockeyy vote together.
I just wish Vivax (and Slam) would have said they are VT, this would have been a lot easier. Hell Vivax even got it right in the beginning, i am sorry i just couldnt see it townie when he clearly didnt call VT claims liar. I think he should have done that.
Rayn, really? as a mafia, why the fuck would I not get the chance to vote out town vivax? Also killing slam was Tictocks easiest task to frame me as mafia. We still havent even had the second cop come out and yet some how I'm automatically mafia because slam died. Like how does that make sense?
Of course tictock had to claim cop first cause he knew his strategy. Honestly do you believe if DrH, Sent or I are mafia together, we'd all be afk for vote?... At least one mafia needed to be there to vote, and that was TT.
On April 17 2021 04:06 ShoCkeyy wrote: Thankfully this started right after all my meetings. Literally have been in 4 meetings, all an hour long. Holy fuck what a drain. Anyways. Hi, I'm VT. Going to try my best in figuring out who's mafia and needs to be lynched. The first person I want to question is Rayn.
Rayn, why are you AFK?
When you have nothing to say.
What a joke. I open the game with some inside joke between Rayn and I and TT then thrashes me for it, then goes and does the same exact thing anyways. Lol...
He's going to try to manipulate you Rayn, here is is basically being a hypocrite.
Vivax and Slam are both 100% VT, then there's TT the only other person to vote.
Then I honestly believe that either Sent or DrH are the second cop/mafia. TT needed to obviously make a move here since his partner was AFK for the vote anyways.
If youre truly a cop you need to vote for either me or sentinel because there is only 1 vt left and we have definitely both hard claimed vt. I can do sentinel instead of you, because i know for certain he is mafia.
TT, do you want to vote for Sentinel instead of shockeyy? I think there is like 0,1% chance shockeyy is town, but Sentinel hard claimed VT and i know he is lying atm.
On April 18 2021 15:51 Tictock wrote: I just don't want to play claim wars, I've never wanted to.
That's not what mafia is about to me.
It is not about it being claim wars. The game is unsolvable with claims or checks. However it gives us advantage in opposition to the situation as it is now. Do not worry, there needs to be and will be scumhunting. The idea however is that because of the roles being "useless" -- since even if youre a cop you dont know and cant know which cop you are (basically meaning there should pretty much never be any trust to any check) -- you have the option to do this:
Instead of (from townies perspective) figuring out who are 2 mafia in a pool of 7 players you have to either: - Figure out who is one mafia in a pool of X players and one mafia in a pool of Y players, or - Figure out who are two mafia in a pool of A players and you instantly have B players who are clear
Both of those options are better than trying to figure out who are 2 mafia in 7 players, because the logical deduction becomes easier, especially if/when we manage to lynch mafia.
I think it is pretty obtuse to not try to use the mechanics to your advantage, it's like saying in a normal game that you didnt use your cop role because you think it's unfair... The why join a game like that at all?
I can get behind this
Assuming all claims we either end up with 2 cop claims and lynch out of 5 or we end up with more than 2 cop claims and what rayn said
If you agree with me please dont just change your vote, you need to have me here since we need to assume drh can be town and if that's it, if one of us votes withouth the other one then were fucked if shock/sent mafia team consolidates.
On April 21 2021 05:38 Tictock wrote: Yea my thinking as well, even if you are mafia
Sho returned mafia Rayn returned town
Obviously subject to sanity or framing However pretty likely there is mafia between them
Of course I return mafia if you frame me... btw, I'm cop, and I checked you, and rayn and guess what?
Since he never bothered to actually claim checks, I will point out Sho's implied checks here would mean He and I cannot both be cop. He is implying I returned mafia and you Town. Which would be impossible for both cops to get the same return on one person checked the same night.
I know. I also know people can do stupid things and that's all implications. I however also know that sentinel claimed to be vt 100% knowing what he was doing (my plan) and he must be lying. Although, you dont know that for 100% sure and i need to stick with you anyways.
On April 21 2021 06:38 ShoCkeyy wrote: Of course tictock had to claim cop first cause he knew his strategy. Honestly do you believe if DrH, Sent or I are mafia together, we'd all be afk for vote?... At least one mafia needed to be there to vote, and that was TT.
For future this also doesnt even make any sense, since if shockeyy and sentinel are mafia they dont need to be around to vote (even though they were around, at least shockeyy was -- as per his own words). The people having votes D1 were Vivax, DrH, and rayn. Why does shockeyy or sentinel "need to vote"?
On April 20 2021 05:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: Next time please put the countdown timer as you promise so i know when the deadline is. Stupid DST always.
This, totes my bad... but wow on the vivax kill :\
like this guy was for sure around for the deadline.
On April 21 2021 06:38 ShoCkeyy wrote: Of course tictock had to claim cop first cause he knew his strategy. Honestly do you believe if DrH, Sent or I are mafia together, we'd all be afk for vote?... At least one mafia needed to be there to vote, and that was TT.
For future this also doesnt even make any sense, since if shockeyy and sentinel are mafia they dont need to be around to vote (even though they were around, at least shockeyy was -- as per his own words). The people having votes D1 were Vivax, DrH, and rayn. Why does shockeyy or sentinel "need to vote"?
I realized this too, but at that point was only going to respond when he posted checks.
If no mafia are up for lynch then they have very little incentive to care or vote
On April 20 2021 05:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: Still, i think if Vivax genuinely feels like two mafia is in shockeyy/Sentinel/drh he HAS to be VT. He like literally has to be, and if he was he would come out (or had already did that) and say he is a VT. Otherwise it doesnt make any sense because there is simply NEVER two mafia in those three people and Vivax should know that.
Unless one of Slam / TT is being really really stupid rn and not claiming VT while being one. But i dont really see that too since i dont understand why they would let us (or at least me) look into wrong places.
This is still the situation: me, shockeyy and sentinel have claimed VT. If someone knows at least one of us is lying they should come out and say that!!!! It is the right thing to do because chekcs are never ever gonna solve this game. Cops would need to randomly check into same person AND neither of them would have to get roleblocked. It is basically impossible. Therefore there cannot be two mafia in me/sentinel/shockeyy/drh. That's how it is. Hell there cannot even be ONE mafia unless drh happens to be VT.
/wink /wink.
Just makes it seem like I was the predetermined target for them today for some reason. Likely because you said you were considering them locked town at one point.
yeah, i would have really liked if vivax or slam (pref both) came out and said at least one of me, shockeyy, sent needs to be lying about being vt. this game was really boring for me because i dint have anything except that i had to look into wrong places all d1.
On April 19 2021 16:22 Vivax wrote: Rayn overexplained my shitposting and feels like he needs to make a case out of it.
TT cites something irrelevant to the conclusions he's making (=I'm scum) with no discernable logic behind it so that looks like a half-assed + 1 to rayns summary from where I'm standing. As if that's the best thing he could come up with while agreeing to vote me without saying he was voting me for rayn's reasons.
Shockeyy right at the beginning of the day somehow manages to not realize I was having the same opinion as him while accusing me of sniffing something out, for some reason.
On April 17 2021 06:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On April 17 2021 05:38 Vivax wrote: I'm feeling like I got shot in the spine for a week now and can barely do anything. It's like fast forwarding to being 90. /rant
That said if mafia had a kill I'd have said we should all shut up for the night. What's the game plan here with this setup? Ideas? Getting an agreement on a single target both cops should be checking doesn't seem like a good idea with the framer.
What are you trying to sniff out here? I don't think agreeing on a single target is going to be useful where mafia can frame...
I don't know who's town of you three but whoever is, is playing very lazily.
I asked you a question, which you didn’t answer, and then I agreed with you. How is that a problem?
That's not worded at all as if you were agreeing with me.
We’re literally saying the same thing, how is that not agreeing?
So when you agree with someone you just ask them what they're trying to sniff out, then repeat what they just said? Okay, interesting. Are you more of a dog or a cat person?
Btw you claimed cop didn't you.
I mostly swapped to Vivax because I realized nobody was consolidating, but this post made me pretty locked it >.<
If DrH somehow appears you need to convince him that you are confirmed town. Should be easy because the game would be over already in case me or you were the other mafia.
Sooooo... I fucked up the hosting in this game by not doing the deadline on time today.
Therefore, I'm going to, perhaps controversially, no-contest this game.
Rayn (VT) TT (Sane Cop) DrH (Insane Cop) Shockeyy
DrH going completely AFK created a really frustrating scenario for me as a host. I would normally modkill an inactive slot without hesitation, however, modkilling him as town effectively wins the game as mafia.
Therefore, we are left in a very dumb situation at LYLO where first person to vote (between TT and Shockeyy) wins. TT and Rayn definitely understood this, and by all accounts should have won the game for town. My work emergency kinda fucked this, and it would be kinda dumb for me to post the daypost right now and create a random race to win the game. That's not really playing mafia.
Shit happens, and I thought it was super lame to end the game based on a "who votes first" case anyhow.
I don't care how you decide to rule the game, I am really happy with my reads (was only wrong on Vivax becuase I was convinced he was partners with Sho even though in retrospect that was stupid) and nailed Sho off one post. Me and Rayn worked well together so in my mind Town won.
Forget what I said earlier Rayn, was happy to play with you. I was just a little irked and the narrative fit, I know you are a better person than that.
On April 24 2021 08:19 Tictock wrote: Forget what I said earlier Rayn, was happy to play with you. I was just a little irked and the narrative fit, I know you are a better person than that.
On April 25 2021 01:04 Alakaslam wrote: Sorry rayn I read you badly
I'm good, but this habit of never policy lynching annoys me. Then one wouldn't just be looking at what active players post (you always find something if you go in looking for it).
On April 26 2021 20:52 Vivax wrote: I'm good, but this habit of never policy lynching annoys me. Then one wouldn't just be looking at what active players post (you always find something if you go in looking for it).
In retrospect that may have been the best call, however in a game this small the very fact that a player joining and not playing is the larger issue. As being "forced" to lynch out of policy is very detrimental to the game especially in this case where town would be down a lynch, a role, and just as demotivated to try.
So, I think the lesson here should be Don't join a game unless you can put in a bare minimum of effort. Of course life still will happen though.
I also didn't feel like you were proposing to lynch DrH out of policy this game, but that may just have been due to my own perspective of the game at that point.
EPT
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