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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9300 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-19 20:04:41
January 19 2021 22:06 GMT
#1
Host: Hapahauli

Setup:

On April 15 2021 22:17 Hapahauli wrote:
...

7 player setup: "Good Cop, Bad Cop, Insane Cop"

2x Mafia "Bad Cops" (Goons with 1x nightly factional RB and 1x nightly factional frame)
v.
1x Cop
1x Insane Cop
3x VT

Cops are unaware of sanity.
Town cops flip "Cop" upon death (sanity is unknown upon flip).
Game starts at N0.
Targets of roleblocks are not notified.


Player List:

1. Shockeyy
2. Vivax (Lynched D1)
3. TicTock
4. [UoN]Sentinel
5. Alakaslam
6. Rayn
7. DrH

Obs:
1. Blazinghand
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7814 Posts
January 19 2021 22:10 GMT
#2
/in
Life?
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
January 20 2021 16:23 GMT
#3
/in
I'm adorable.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Austria19302 Posts
January 21 2021 09:01 GMT
#4
/in
the fish stinks from the head
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
January 21 2021 21:42 GMT
#5
/in

See if this starts before I finish Hollow Knight or not.
I can take that responsibility.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7814 Posts
January 25 2021 20:23 GMT
#6
1v3 lets gooo
Life?
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9300 Posts
January 25 2021 20:58 GMT
#7
Happy to host a super-mini if y'all want to play. Also happy to wait. Your choice.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
January 25 2021 21:45 GMT
#8
On January 26 2021 05:58 Hapahauli wrote:
Happy to host a super-mini if y'all want to play. Also happy to wait. Your choice.


I would gladly play a super mini with the player roster
I'm adorable.
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2296 Posts
January 26 2021 09:43 GMT
#9
On January 26 2021 05:58 Hapahauli wrote:
Happy to host a super-mini if y'all want to play. Also happy to wait. Your choice.


I've past being upset.
I won't have any time until like mid summer. If this doesn't start until after February I'll have a better idea. I'm ok with being the resident lurker :p..
Life's to short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7289 Posts
January 26 2021 23:33 GMT
#10
I'm still waiting to see what happened to Lucca Gallo...
lol, clueless in The Prism!
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7814 Posts
January 27 2021 06:51 GMT
#11
/confirm
Life?
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
January 28 2021 22:10 GMT
#12
On January 26 2021 05:23 ShoCkeyy wrote:
1v3 lets gooo


Seems like that'd be a meh game. Maybe with a Doc in the mix it'd be interesting.

Otherwise, my levels of apathy are astounding.

Spent way longer than I care to figure out on Traitor Lord but am otherwise on a cleanup phase before finishing Hollow Knight. Wish I had something to spend my 10k+ Geo on.

I can take that responsibility.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7814 Posts
February 04 2021 03:19 GMT
#13
the end of an era?
Life?
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9300 Posts
February 04 2021 21:53 GMT
#14
Activity ebbs and flows here. I'll keep signups open for as long as we need.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
February 05 2021 00:44 GMT
#15
On February 04 2021 12:19 ShoCkeyy wrote:
the end of an era?


Not the end, just the start of something new and uncertain ...

Unwelcome and uncomfortable.
I can take that responsibility.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25536 Posts
February 10 2021 08:28 GMT
#16
/obs
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7814 Posts
February 15 2021 19:50 GMT
#17
1v3 lets go
Life?
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
February 21 2021 15:26 GMT
#18
[image loading]
I can take that responsibility.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11319 Posts
April 07 2021 05:23 GMT
#19
/in if it's still going

Otherwise I can host something
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9300 Posts
April 07 2021 15:13 GMT
#20
Alive?? It's alive?

Yeah I can still host this.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11319 Posts
April 07 2021 16:39 GMT
#21
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States16071 Posts
April 08 2021 15:52 GMT
#22
Fine /in

I will try not to get pissed or political or dissappe
Drinking food, eating water; tomé leche, come lechuga
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9300 Posts
April 08 2021 18:35 GMT
#23
That's 6 - I'll hold this open for a few days (and make sure everyone confirms), and then we can run a small game.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
April 09 2021 21:12 GMT
#24
I'll still play
I can take that responsibility.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 10 2021 01:19 GMT
#25
fu is 7 better than 6?
if it is i /in, if not /obs
table for two on a tv tray
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9300 Posts
April 10 2021 01:56 GMT
#26
I can create an entertaining 7 man setup
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7814 Posts
April 11 2021 03:38 GMT
#27
Let’s fucking go
Life?
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9300 Posts
April 12 2021 14:21 GMT
#28
Waiting to hear from Vivax/GB. Then i'll start things up.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 12 2021 17:28 GMT
#29
Add another player binch I’m in now
RIP Aaliyah
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7814 Posts
April 12 2021 21:16 GMT
#30
DrH, this is going to be a very great game :D
Life?
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9300 Posts
April 13 2021 18:08 GMT
#31
Just waiting on GlowingBear - I'll run a 7 or 8 man depending on his response.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7814 Posts
April 13 2021 18:12 GMT
#32
Just auto confirm him, i'm sure he'll play with DrH
Life?
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9300 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-15 20:58:37
April 15 2021 13:17 GMT
#33
Haven't heard from GB so I'm going to start this tomorrow. Role PM's going out.

7 player setup: "Good Cop, Bad Cop, Insane Cop"

2x Mafia "Bad Cops" (Goons with 1x nightly factional RB + 1x nightly factional frame)
v.
1x Cop
1x Insane Cop
3x VT

Cops are unaware of sanity. Town cops flip "Cop" upon death (sanity is unknown upon flip). Game starts at N0.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9300 Posts
April 15 2021 13:35 GMT
#34
Role PM's out:

VT:
Vanilla Townie


Mafia:
Mafia Bad Cop /w [player]

QT Link


Cop/Insane Cop:
Cop

You may ##Check the identity of a player every night. Your sanity is unknown.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9300 Posts
April 15 2021 13:44 GMT
#35


Game Start Countdown
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States16071 Posts
April 15 2021 13:48 GMT
#36
On April 15 2021 22:44 Hapahauli wrote:


Game Start Countdown

Huzzah
Drinking food, eating water; tomé leche, come lechuga
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25536 Posts
April 15 2021 16:50 GMT
#37
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2296 Posts
April 15 2021 17:16 GMT
#38
Life's to short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
April 15 2021 17:33 GMT
#39
Insane inverts check?
I can take that responsibility.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11319 Posts
April 15 2021 17:46 GMT
#40
On April 15 2021 22:17 Hapahauli wrote:
Game starts at N0.

Wait so one player is already out by the beginning of the voting phase?
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9300 Posts
April 15 2021 20:58 GMT
#41
On April 16 2021 02:33 Tictock wrote:
Insane inverts check?


Correct.

On April 16 2021 02:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2021 22:17 Hapahauli wrote:
Game starts at N0.

Wait so one player is already out by the beginning of the voting phase?


No Mafia NK on n0, forgot to specify. Only check/RB/Frame.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9300 Posts
April 15 2021 21:00 GMT
#42
Added a mafia factional ##Frame ability for balance.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7814 Posts
April 15 2021 21:04 GMT
#43
Oh yea, I'm ready to get this party started.
Life?
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11319 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-16 18:09:47
April 16 2021 05:09 GMT
#44
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States16071 Posts
April 16 2021 14:22 GMT
#45
On April 16 2021 14:09 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
:pop

: l u r k :
Drinking food, eating water; tomé leche, come lechuga
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11319 Posts
April 16 2021 18:09 GMT
#46
oops
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11319 Posts
April 16 2021 18:10 GMT
#47
pls no ban for edit it was too embarassing to leave up
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9300 Posts
April 16 2021 18:23 GMT
#48
Night 0:

I have a meeting that may run most of the afternoon. Starting early.

It is now Night 0. Everyone may speak.

Cops may submit night actions. There is no N0 kill, however, mafia may submit ##Frame and ##RB actions.

PM all actions to host.


Night 0 Ends:
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7814 Posts
April 16 2021 19:06 GMT
#49
Thankfully this started right after all my meetings. Literally have been in 4 meetings, all an hour long. Holy fuck what a drain. Anyways. Hi, I'm VT. Going to try my best in figuring out who's mafia and needs to be lynched. The first person I want to question is Rayn.

Rayn, why are you AFK?
Life?
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
April 16 2021 19:52 GMT
#50
That's a lot of words.

I think I will be treating this as a pure vanilla game.
I can take that responsibility.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Austria19302 Posts
April 16 2021 20:38 GMT
#51
I'm feeling like I got shot in the spine for a week now and can barely do anything. It's like fast forwarding to being 90. /rant

That said if mafia had a kill I'd have said we should all shut up for the night. What's the game plan here with this setup? Ideas? Getting an agreement on a single target both cops should be checking doesn't seem like a good idea with the framer.
the fish stinks from the head
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7814 Posts
April 16 2021 21:33 GMT
#52
On April 17 2021 05:38 Vivax wrote:
I'm feeling like I got shot in the spine for a week now and can barely do anything. It's like fast forwarding to being 90. /rant

That said if mafia had a kill I'd have said we should all shut up for the night. What's the game plan here with this setup? Ideas? Getting an agreement on a single target both cops should be checking doesn't seem like a good idea with the framer.


What are you trying to sniff out here? I don't think agreeing on a single target is going to be useful where mafia can frame...
Life?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Austria19302 Posts
April 16 2021 21:57 GMT
#53
On April 17 2021 06:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2021 05:38 Vivax wrote:
I'm feeling like I got shot in the spine for a week now and can barely do anything. It's like fast forwarding to being 90. /rant

That said if mafia had a kill I'd have said we should all shut up for the night. What's the game plan here with this setup? Ideas? Getting an agreement on a single target both cops should be checking doesn't seem like a good idea with the framer.


What are you trying to sniff out here? I don't think agreeing on a single target is going to be useful where mafia can frame...


jumpy much?
the fish stinks from the head
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
April 17 2021 00:13 GMT
#54
It's basically a 3 day D1 and with multiple forms of cop hate I think assuming all vanilla is best.
I can take that responsibility.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11319 Posts
April 17 2021 17:16 GMT
#55
Happy Saturday frens
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9300 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-17 20:05:34
April 17 2021 20:05 GMT
#56
Day 1 Start.

Day lasts 48 hours. Will update with countdown timer.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States16071 Posts
April 17 2021 20:14 GMT
#57
Hold checks for a while, lots of insanity...


Anyone else want to play?
Drinking food, eating water; tomé leche, come lechuga
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States16071 Posts
April 17 2021 20:14 GMT
#58
On April 17 2021 09:13 Tictock wrote:
It's basically a 3 day D1 and with multiple forms of cop hate I think assuming all vanilla is best.

I can get behind this btw.
Drinking food, eating water; tomé leche, come lechuga
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Austria19302 Posts
April 17 2021 20:19 GMT
#59
Yeah I want to play but it's hard to tell if the game filled lol.

Maybe rayn got conceded.
the fish stinks from the head
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
April 17 2021 21:59 GMT
#60
It's ok, this game was 4 months in the making.

This is picking up so much steam right now guys.
I can take that responsibility.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7814 Posts
April 17 2021 23:46 GMT
#61
I think I got Rayn first try
Life?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 18 2021 03:47 GMT
#62
First time ever i dont remember i joined a game. :D
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 18 2021 03:49 GMT
#63
Im vt, everyone needs to claim role asap.
table for two on a tv tray
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
April 18 2021 06:21 GMT
#64
On April 18 2021 12:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Im vt, everyone needs to claim role asap.


Go play Town of Salem for that shit
I can take that responsibility.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 18 2021 06:36 GMT
#65
Well i don't think it's my "fault" for the setup to be what it is. It's the correct play for town.
table for two on a tv tray
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
April 18 2021 06:39 GMT
#66
As an alternative, I suggest we ##Vote:Shockeyy

Because...


Especially...
On April 17 2021 04:06 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Thankfully this started right after all my meetings. Literally have been in 4 meetings, all an hour long. Holy fuck what a drain. Anyways. Hi, I'm VT. Going to try my best in figuring out who's mafia and needs to be lynched. The first person I want to question is Rayn.

Rayn, why are you AFK?


When you have nothing to say.
I can take that responsibility.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 18 2021 06:46 GMT
#67
TT you really dont see the benefit of everyone claiming their role?
table for two on a tv tray
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
April 18 2021 06:51 GMT
#68
I just don't want to play claim wars, I've never wanted to.

That's not what mafia is about to me.
I can take that responsibility.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Austria19302 Posts
April 18 2021 06:59 GMT
#69
Should prolly wait for Dr. Herpetica to post too before pestering rayn.
the fish stinks from the head
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 18 2021 07:06 GMT
#70
On April 18 2021 15:51 Tictock wrote:
I just don't want to play claim wars, I've never wanted to.

That's not what mafia is about to me.

It is not about it being claim wars. The game is unsolvable with claims or checks. However it gives us advantage in opposition to the situation as it is now. Do not worry, there needs to be and will be scumhunting. The idea however is that because of the roles being "useless" -- since even if youre a cop you dont know and cant know which cop you are (basically meaning there should pretty much never be any trust to any check) -- you have the option to do this:

Instead of (from townies perspective) figuring out who are 2 mafia in a pool of 7 players you have to either:
- Figure out who is one mafia in a pool of X players and one mafia in a pool of Y players, or
- Figure out who are two mafia in a pool of A players and you instantly have B players who are clear

Both of those options are better than trying to figure out who are 2 mafia in 7 players, because the logical deduction becomes easier, especially if/when we manage to lynch mafia.

I think it is pretty obtuse to not try to use the mechanics to your advantage, it's like saying in a normal game that you didnt use your cop role because you think it's unfair... The why join a game like that at all?
table for two on a tv tray
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
April 18 2021 07:07 GMT
#71
On April 10 2021 10:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
fu is 7 better than 6?
if it is i /in, if not /obs

On April 13 2021 02:28 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Add another player binch I’m in now


Honestly I'm more inclined to take issue with the 2 people who insulted Hapa as part of their /ins being the 2 people who seem to least want to play this game.

Disrespectful
I can take that responsibility.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 18 2021 07:09 GMT
#72
##vote Vivax
table for two on a tv tray
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
April 18 2021 07:10 GMT
#73
On April 18 2021 16:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2021 15:51 Tictock wrote:
I just don't want to play claim wars, I've never wanted to.

That's not what mafia is about to me.

It is not about it being claim wars. The game is unsolvable with claims or checks. However it gives us advantage in opposition to the situation as it is now. Do not worry, there needs to be and will be scumhunting. The idea however is that because of the roles being "useless" -- since even if youre a cop you dont know and cant know which cop you are (basically meaning there should pretty much never be any trust to any check) -- you have the option to do this:

Instead of (from townies perspective) figuring out who are 2 mafia in a pool of 7 players you have to either:
- Figure out who is one mafia in a pool of X players and one mafia in a pool of Y players, or
- Figure out who are two mafia in a pool of A players and you instantly have B players who are clear

Both of those options are better than trying to figure out who are 2 mafia in 7 players, because the logical deduction becomes easier, especially if/when we manage to lynch mafia.

I think it is pretty obtuse to not try to use the mechanics to your advantage, it's like saying in a normal game that you didnt use your cop role because you think it's unfair... The why join a game like that at all?


I don't have an issue with roles, or claims being part of the game.

But forcing the game to be about Mass Claims D1 feels against the spirit of the game to me.

I don't care if it's the "fastest path to victory"
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
April 18 2021 07:12 GMT
#74
On April 18 2021 16:07 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2021 10:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
fu is 7 better than 6?
if it is i /in, if not /obs

Show nested quote +
On April 13 2021 02:28 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Add another player binch I’m in now


Honestly I'm more inclined to take issue with the 2 people who insulted Hapa as part of their /ins being the 2 people who seem to least want to play this game.

Disrespectful


I know rayn is playing, but
On April 18 2021 12:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
First time ever i dont remember i joined a game. :D


I think the point stands
I can take that responsibility.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 18 2021 07:16 GMT
#75
I dont really get how that's disrespectful, as it seems i was pretty tired when i joined the game. I'm sorry if it looks like that.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 18 2021 07:18 GMT
#76
Vivax asks "What's the game plan here with this setup? Ideas?"
rayn gives ideas.
Vivax trashes on rayn.

Pretty sure that's mafia Vivax talking. First post in itself is quite suspect to me already but the "follow up" is even more.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 18 2021 07:19 GMT
#77
On April 18 2021 05:14 Alakaslam wrote:
Hold checks for a while, lots of insanity...

Slam what's the logic here?
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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
April 18 2021 07:24 GMT
#78
On April 18 2021 16:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax asks "What's the game plan here with this setup? Ideas?"
rayn gives ideas.
Vivax trashes on rayn.

Pretty sure that's mafia Vivax talking. First post in itself is quite suspect to me already but the "follow up" is even more.


My Gut read on Sho is a bit stronger to me.

But I can get behind this as well.
I can take that responsibility.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 18 2021 07:28 GMT
#79
So how about we figure out if Vivax and Shockeyy can be mafia together or not?
Hey... there is an easy way to do that!
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Austria19302 Posts
April 18 2021 09:10 GMT
#80
The two reactions to my posts so far are just lack of reading comprehension.
1 x by shockeyy and 1 x by rayn.

I was dessiccating waiting for someone to point out the one instance by shock.
the fish stinks from the head
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11319 Posts
April 18 2021 16:33 GMT
#81
On April 18 2021 16:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2021 15:51 Tictock wrote:
I just don't want to play claim wars, I've never wanted to.

That's not what mafia is about to me.

It is not about it being claim wars. The game is unsolvable with claims or checks. However it gives us advantage in opposition to the situation as it is now. Do not worry, there needs to be and will be scumhunting. The idea however is that because of the roles being "useless" -- since even if youre a cop you dont know and cant know which cop you are (basically meaning there should pretty much never be any trust to any check) -- you have the option to do this:

Instead of (from townies perspective) figuring out who are 2 mafia in a pool of 7 players you have to either:
- Figure out who is one mafia in a pool of X players and one mafia in a pool of Y players, or
- Figure out who are two mafia in a pool of A players and you instantly have B players who are clear

Both of those options are better than trying to figure out who are 2 mafia in 7 players, because the logical deduction becomes easier, especially if/when we manage to lynch mafia.

I think it is pretty obtuse to not try to use the mechanics to your advantage, it's like saying in a normal game that you didnt use your cop role because you think it's unfair... The why join a game like that at all?

I can get behind this

Assuming all claims we either end up with 2 cop claims and lynch out of 5 or we end up with more than 2 cop claims and what rayn said

VT here
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 18 2021 17:45 GMT
#82
On April 17 2021 05:38 Vivax wrote:
I'm feeling like I got shot in the spine for a week now and can barely do anything. It's like fast forwarding to being 90. /rant

That said if mafia had a kill I'd have said we should all shut up for the night. What's the game plan here with this setup? Ideas? Getting an agreement on a single target both cops should be checking doesn't seem like a good idea with the framer.

I had an idea on how to play this game but unfortunately it is for a different setup. Useful much?
On April 17 2021 06:57 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2021 06:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On April 17 2021 05:38 Vivax wrote:
I'm feeling like I got shot in the spine for a week now and can barely do anything. It's like fast forwarding to being 90. /rant

That said if mafia had a kill I'd have said we should all shut up for the night. What's the game plan here with this setup? Ideas? Getting an agreement on a single target both cops should be checking doesn't seem like a good idea with the framer.


What are you trying to sniff out here? I don't think agreeing on a single target is going to be useful where mafia can frame...


jumpy much?

Saying nothing here.
On April 18 2021 05:19 Vivax wrote:
Yeah I want to play but it's hard to tell if the game filled lol.

Maybe rayn got conceded.

Something useless about an inactive.
On April 18 2021 15:59 Vivax wrote:
Should prolly wait for Dr. Herpetica to post too before pestering rayn.

Again something useless about an inactive.
Now here is the crucial part, at this point of the game i have done what Vivax asked and gave a strategy for the game. Me and TT have discussed it. Also TT has given a read on shockeyy. There actually IS stuff happening in the game, two things, both of what Vivax has shown interest in. Next he says:
On April 18 2021 18:10 Vivax wrote:
The two reactions to my posts so far are just lack of reading comprehension.
1 x by shockeyy and 1 x by rayn.

I was dessiccating waiting for someone to point out the one instance by shock.

Let's say Vivax is indeed talking to TT instead of me in his "pestering" post. That doesn't even make any sense since -- once again -- TT has discussed the game plan with me (which Vivax showed interest in his first post in the game already), and TT has made a read on shockeyy (which Vivax here claims he was interested in already -- in shockyy as in " waiting for someone to point out the one instance by shock"). He doesn't take any stance or show any interest in any of the things discussed by me or TT, and brushes the whole discussion off by saying that we should wait for DrH to post.

Why on earth should we ever wait DrH to post for ANY reason at this point???? Either me, or TT, or any other player in the game??? It doesn't make any sense at all unless Vivax is just posting nonsense for the sake of posting. Basically everything he has said has been just filler posts about inactives and the things he has shown even relative interest in, when people start talking about it he doesnt actually want to talk about it "because DrH hasnt posted". I think that's quite bs and i think it makes him mafia.

That being said i am going to consider sentinel and shockeyy confirmed town until someone comes and says "hey i am a VT at least on of you must be a liar". Sorry TT if you dont like this (especially since you dont sound like mafia this game) but i am not gonna pass an opportunity to use the setup to my advantage if it allows it.
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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
April 19 2021 00:37 GMT
#83
Nah, I'll even ##Unvote

and ##Vote: Vivax

On April 18 2021 18:10 Vivax wrote:
The two reactions to my posts so far are just lack of reading comprehension.
1 x by shockeyy and 1 x by rayn.

I was dessiccating waiting for someone to point out the one instance by shock.

"lack of reading comprehension" kinda implies he doesn't think you 2 are mafia

Though I like the auto-correct.
I can take that responsibility.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Austria19302 Posts
April 19 2021 02:53 GMT
#84
Rayn is looking for usefulness in my posts in a semi empty game. ok lol. And needs a wall of text to point it out.


On April 19 2021 09:37 Tictock wrote:
Nah, I'll even ##Unvote

and ##Vote: Vivax

Show nested quote +
On April 18 2021 18:10 Vivax wrote:
The two reactions to my posts so far are just lack of reading comprehension.
1 x by shockeyy and 1 x by rayn.

I was dessiccating waiting for someone to point out the one instance by shock.

"lack of reading comprehension" kinda implies he doesn't think you 2 are mafia

Though I like the auto-correct.


No, it doesn't? What kind of conclusion is this?
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States16071 Posts
April 19 2021 05:50 GMT
#85
On April 18 2021 16:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2021 15:51 Tictock wrote:
I just don't want to play claim wars, I've never wanted to.

That's not what mafia is about to me.

It is not about it being claim wars. The game is unsolvable with claims or checks. However it gives us advantage in opposition to the situation as it is now. Do not worry, there needs to be and will be scumhunting. The idea however is that because of the roles being "useless" -- since even if youre a cop you dont know and cant know which cop you are (basically meaning there should pretty much never be any trust to any check) -- you have the option to do this:

Instead of (from townies perspective) figuring out who are 2 mafia in a pool of 7 players you have to either:
- Figure out who is one mafia in a pool of X players and one mafia in a pool of Y players, or
- Figure out who are two mafia in a pool of A players and you instantly have B players who are clear

Both of those options are better than trying to figure out who are 2 mafia in 7 players, because the logical deduction becomes easier, especially if/when we manage to lynch mafia.

I think it is pretty obtuse to not try to use the mechanics to your advantage, it's like saying in a normal game that you didnt use your cop role because you think it's unfair... The why join a game like that at all?

Rayn is scum, TT is town, we win
Drinking food, eating water; tomé leche, come lechuga
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States16071 Posts
April 19 2021 05:52 GMT
#86
On April 18 2021 16:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2021 05:14 Alakaslam wrote:
Hold checks for a while, lots of insanity...

Slam what's the logic here?

I'm not mafia so I don't need to fish for roles and want cops to have enough checks before claiming to parse out the insanity/framing potential.

You're fishing for our roles though amirite
Drinking food, eating water; tomé leche, come lechuga
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Austria19302 Posts
April 19 2021 07:22 GMT
#87
Rayn overexplained my shitposting and feels like he needs to make a case out of it.

TT cites something irrelevant to the conclusions he's making (=I'm scum) with no discernable logic behind it so that looks like a half-assed + 1 to rayns summary from where I'm standing. As if that's the best thing he could come up with while agreeing to vote me without saying he was voting me for rayn's reasons.

Shockeyy right at the beginning of the day somehow manages to not realize I was having the same opinion as him while accusing me of sniffing something out, for some reason.

On April 17 2021 06:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2021 05:38 Vivax wrote:
I'm feeling like I got shot in the spine for a week now and can barely do anything. It's like fast forwarding to being 90. /rant

That said if mafia had a kill I'd have said we should all shut up for the night. What's the game plan here with this setup? Ideas? Getting an agreement on a single target both cops should be checking doesn't seem like a good idea with the framer.


What are you trying to sniff out here? I don't think agreeing on a single target is going to be useful where mafia can frame...


I don't know who's town of you three but whoever is, is playing very lazily.
the fish stinks from the head
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Austria19302 Posts
April 19 2021 07:38 GMT
#88
On April 19 2021 14:50 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2021 16:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 18 2021 15:51 Tictock wrote:
I just don't want to play claim wars, I've never wanted to.

That's not what mafia is about to me.

It is not about it being claim wars. The game is unsolvable with claims or checks. However it gives us advantage in opposition to the situation as it is now. Do not worry, there needs to be and will be scumhunting. The idea however is that because of the roles being "useless" -- since even if youre a cop you dont know and cant know which cop you are (basically meaning there should pretty much never be any trust to any check) -- you have the option to do this:

Instead of (from townies perspective) figuring out who are 2 mafia in a pool of 7 players you have to either:
- Figure out who is one mafia in a pool of X players and one mafia in a pool of Y players, or
- Figure out who are two mafia in a pool of A players and you instantly have B players who are clear

Both of those options are better than trying to figure out who are 2 mafia in 7 players, because the logical deduction becomes easier, especially if/when we manage to lynch mafia.

I think it is pretty obtuse to not try to use the mechanics to your advantage, it's like saying in a normal game that you didnt use your cop role because you think it's unfair... The why join a game like that at all?

Rayn is scum, TT is town, we win


I'm in Shockeyy + Sent world or one of them + DrH right now.

Because I'm sure Shockeyy is reading the thread but just choosing not to post. Sent on the other hand just doesn't have an opinion on anything or make himself attackable for anything.

TT + rayn just going for stuff that doesn't people mafia, but not unlikely to be from town for now. Currently I think it's the usual fallacy where townies get hooked on stuff active people post because they forgot yet again that they can't find anything if you don't give them anything. Then because they're wrong they do stuff that isn't logical and get called mafia for it and the cycle perpetuates etc.

So I'm trying to not perpetuate that cycle just cause they're wrong on me or do stuff suggestive of mafia like reading early posts in a tryhard context or mentioning something 1. illogical and 2. irrelevant to the read on me like TT did.
the fish stinks from the head
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
April 19 2021 08:44 GMT
#89
On April 19 2021 16:22 Vivax wrote:
Rayn overexplained my shitposting and feels like he needs to make a case out of it.

TT cites something irrelevant to the conclusions he's making (=I'm scum) with no discernable logic behind it so that looks like a half-assed + 1 to rayns summary from where I'm standing. As if that's the best thing he could come up with while agreeing to vote me without saying he was voting me for rayn's reasons.

Shockeyy right at the beginning of the day somehow manages to not realize I was having the same opinion as him while accusing me of sniffing something out, for some reason.

Show nested quote +
On April 17 2021 06:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On April 17 2021 05:38 Vivax wrote:
I'm feeling like I got shot in the spine for a week now and can barely do anything. It's like fast forwarding to being 90. /rant

That said if mafia had a kill I'd have said we should all shut up for the night. What's the game plan here with this setup? Ideas? Getting an agreement on a single target both cops should be checking doesn't seem like a good idea with the framer.


What are you trying to sniff out here? I don't think agreeing on a single target is going to be useful where mafia can frame...


I don't know who's town of you three but whoever is, is playing very lazily
.


Lmao, so you have no opinion on who is town but call us lazy?

Please excuse me for actually doing anything in this game where less than 12 hours left in a 3 day cycle almost nobody has voted or stated clear opinions.
I can take that responsibility.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Austria19302 Posts
April 19 2021 09:10 GMT
#90
On April 19 2021 17:44 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2021 16:22 Vivax wrote:
Rayn overexplained my shitposting and feels like he needs to make a case out of it.

TT cites something irrelevant to the conclusions he's making (=I'm scum) with no discernable logic behind it so that looks like a half-assed + 1 to rayns summary from where I'm standing. As if that's the best thing he could come up with while agreeing to vote me without saying he was voting me for rayn's reasons.

Shockeyy right at the beginning of the day somehow manages to not realize I was having the same opinion as him while accusing me of sniffing something out, for some reason.

On April 17 2021 06:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On April 17 2021 05:38 Vivax wrote:
I'm feeling like I got shot in the spine for a week now and can barely do anything. It's like fast forwarding to being 90. /rant

That said if mafia had a kill I'd have said we should all shut up for the night. What's the game plan here with this setup? Ideas? Getting an agreement on a single target both cops should be checking doesn't seem like a good idea with the framer.


What are you trying to sniff out here? I don't think agreeing on a single target is going to be useful where mafia can frame...


I don't know who's town of you three but whoever is, is playing very lazily
.


Lmao, so you have no opinion on who is town but call us lazy?

Please excuse me for actually doing anything in this game where less than 12 hours left in a 3 day cycle almost nobody has voted or stated clear opinions.


How did I imply that i don't think Shock + rayn are mafia for saying they didn't read properly?
Is it your experience that mafia never misreads or skips things or how otherwise did you arrive to that conclusion?
the fish stinks from the head
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Austria19302 Posts
April 19 2021 09:11 GMT
#91
And why do you think it's something worth mentioning in the same post you're voting for me?
the fish stinks from the head
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7814 Posts
April 19 2021 11:07 GMT
#92
On April 19 2021 16:22 Vivax wrote:
Rayn overexplained my shitposting and feels like he needs to make a case out of it.

TT cites something irrelevant to the conclusions he's making (=I'm scum) with no discernable logic behind it so that looks like a half-assed + 1 to rayns summary from where I'm standing. As if that's the best thing he could come up with while agreeing to vote me without saying he was voting me for rayn's reasons.

Shockeyy right at the beginning of the day somehow manages to not realize I was having the same opinion as him while accusing me of sniffing something out, for some reason.

Show nested quote +
On April 17 2021 06:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On April 17 2021 05:38 Vivax wrote:
I'm feeling like I got shot in the spine for a week now and can barely do anything. It's like fast forwarding to being 90. /rant

That said if mafia had a kill I'd have said we should all shut up for the night. What's the game plan here with this setup? Ideas? Getting an agreement on a single target both cops should be checking doesn't seem like a good idea with the framer.


What are you trying to sniff out here? I don't think agreeing on a single target is going to be useful where mafia can frame...


I don't know who's town of you three but whoever is, is playing very lazily.


I asked you a question, which you didn’t answer, and then I agreed with you. How is that a problem?
Life?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Austria19302 Posts
April 19 2021 11:59 GMT
#93
On April 19 2021 20:07 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2021 16:22 Vivax wrote:
Rayn overexplained my shitposting and feels like he needs to make a case out of it.

TT cites something irrelevant to the conclusions he's making (=I'm scum) with no discernable logic behind it so that looks like a half-assed + 1 to rayns summary from where I'm standing. As if that's the best thing he could come up with while agreeing to vote me without saying he was voting me for rayn's reasons.

Shockeyy right at the beginning of the day somehow manages to not realize I was having the same opinion as him while accusing me of sniffing something out, for some reason.

On April 17 2021 06:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On April 17 2021 05:38 Vivax wrote:
I'm feeling like I got shot in the spine for a week now and can barely do anything. It's like fast forwarding to being 90. /rant

That said if mafia had a kill I'd have said we should all shut up for the night. What's the game plan here with this setup? Ideas? Getting an agreement on a single target both cops should be checking doesn't seem like a good idea with the framer.


What are you trying to sniff out here? I don't think agreeing on a single target is going to be useful where mafia can frame...


I don't know who's town of you three but whoever is, is playing very lazily.


I asked you a question, which you didn’t answer, and then I agreed with you. How is that a problem?


That's not worded at all as if you were agreeing with me.
the fish stinks from the head
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7814 Posts
April 19 2021 13:55 GMT
#94
On April 19 2021 20:59 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2021 20:07 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On April 19 2021 16:22 Vivax wrote:
Rayn overexplained my shitposting and feels like he needs to make a case out of it.

TT cites something irrelevant to the conclusions he's making (=I'm scum) with no discernable logic behind it so that looks like a half-assed + 1 to rayns summary from where I'm standing. As if that's the best thing he could come up with while agreeing to vote me without saying he was voting me for rayn's reasons.

Shockeyy right at the beginning of the day somehow manages to not realize I was having the same opinion as him while accusing me of sniffing something out, for some reason.

On April 17 2021 06:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On April 17 2021 05:38 Vivax wrote:
I'm feeling like I got shot in the spine for a week now and can barely do anything. It's like fast forwarding to being 90. /rant

That said if mafia had a kill I'd have said we should all shut up for the night. What's the game plan here with this setup? Ideas? Getting an agreement on a single target both cops should be checking doesn't seem like a good idea with the framer.


What are you trying to sniff out here? I don't think agreeing on a single target is going to be useful where mafia can frame...


I don't know who's town of you three but whoever is, is playing very lazily.


I asked you a question, which you didn’t answer, and then I agreed with you. How is that a problem?


That's not worded at all as if you were agreeing with me.


We’re literally saying the same thing, how is that not agreeing?
Life?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Austria19302 Posts
April 19 2021 14:30 GMT
#95
On April 19 2021 22:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2021 20:59 Vivax wrote:
On April 19 2021 20:07 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On April 19 2021 16:22 Vivax wrote:
Rayn overexplained my shitposting and feels like he needs to make a case out of it.

TT cites something irrelevant to the conclusions he's making (=I'm scum) with no discernable logic behind it so that looks like a half-assed + 1 to rayns summary from where I'm standing. As if that's the best thing he could come up with while agreeing to vote me without saying he was voting me for rayn's reasons.

Shockeyy right at the beginning of the day somehow manages to not realize I was having the same opinion as him while accusing me of sniffing something out, for some reason.

On April 17 2021 06:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On April 17 2021 05:38 Vivax wrote:
I'm feeling like I got shot in the spine for a week now and can barely do anything. It's like fast forwarding to being 90. /rant

That said if mafia had a kill I'd have said we should all shut up for the night. What's the game plan here with this setup? Ideas? Getting an agreement on a single target both cops should be checking doesn't seem like a good idea with the framer.


What are you trying to sniff out here? I don't think agreeing on a single target is going to be useful where mafia can frame...


I don't know who's town of you three but whoever is, is playing very lazily.


I asked you a question, which you didn’t answer, and then I agreed with you. How is that a problem?


That's not worded at all as if you were agreeing with me.


We’re literally saying the same thing, how is that not agreeing?


So when you agree with someone you just ask them what they're trying to sniff out, then repeat what they just said? Okay, interesting. Are you more of a dog or a cat person?

Btw you claimed cop didn't you.
the fish stinks from the head
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Austria19302 Posts
April 19 2021 14:38 GMT
#96
Either way I won't be around this EoD I'm afraid. I'll just be voting off the crazy bro who went on a posting spree all over the website and then disappeared.

Maybe, big maybe then we can start tryharding.
the fish stinks from the head
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Austria19302 Posts
April 19 2021 14:38 GMT
#97
##Vote: DrHelvetica
the fish stinks from the head
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States16071 Posts
April 19 2021 15:01 GMT
#98
Vivax Rayn?

So few posts anything is possible

##Vote: Raynpelikoneet
Drinking food, eating water; tomé leche, come lechuga
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Austria19302 Posts
April 19 2021 15:13 GMT
#99
Dunno rayn pushing me early would be a town rayn thibg to do. I don‘t feel him being a d1 lynch here.
Why go for rayn here and not a less risky lynch?
the fish stinks from the head
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States16071 Posts
April 19 2021 15:18 GMT
#100
Nah not vivax. In fact he may be right about drh
Drinking food, eating water; tomé leche, come lechuga
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States16071 Posts
April 19 2021 15:22 GMT
#101
On April 20 2021 00:13 Vivax wrote:
Dunno rayn pushing me early would be a town rayn thibg to do. I don‘t feel him being a d1 lynch here.
Why go for rayn here and not a less risky lynch?

Lurker lynch is usually good but in this game?

Everyone is lurking.
Drinking food, eating water; tomé leche, come lechuga
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States16071 Posts
April 19 2021 15:24 GMT
#102
But Dr. H has NOT POSTED.

If we lynch lurker I prefer Sentinel who has basically fulfilled "not get modkill" and then vanisht
Drinking food, eating water; tomé leche, come lechuga
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Austria19302 Posts
April 19 2021 15:57 GMT
#103
i think im good with drh for now. appreciate that someone isaround for more than one post tho.
the fish stinks from the head
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 19 2021 17:01 GMT
#104
Well. Slam's basically a cop, so is TT. I believe shockeyy and sentinel claims since noone is calling (one or more) of us liar, which should be done if youre vt.

Slam just doesnt get this game cannot be solved with checks 99,9%. But thats okay.

Vivax hilariously suspects a mafia team of TWO unccd VTs when noone has shown any interest of saying one of us is lying. He should do that if he is VT 100% of the time so Vivax is not VT. If and when vivax is not VT he should never as town suspect the pool of unccd players.

Easily best chance Vivax + DrH, DrH is not a bad lynch here imo but i dont play to lynch no posters. I can prolly be arpund for last hour of the phase but thats mu 2c and i doubt anything is gonna change.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 19 2021 17:10 GMT
#105
Well at least TT knows i am town here.

If i am mafia i cannot be mafia with DrH because DrH needs to be the remaining VT, and i am definitely not mafia with slam or vivax or any other VT claim.

There you go TT, easy read for you.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11319 Posts
April 19 2021 17:29 GMT
#106
On April 19 2021 16:38 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2021 14:50 Alakaslam wrote:
On April 18 2021 16:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 18 2021 15:51 Tictock wrote:
I just don't want to play claim wars, I've never wanted to.

That's not what mafia is about to me.

It is not about it being claim wars. The game is unsolvable with claims or checks. However it gives us advantage in opposition to the situation as it is now. Do not worry, there needs to be and will be scumhunting. The idea however is that because of the roles being "useless" -- since even if youre a cop you dont know and cant know which cop you are (basically meaning there should pretty much never be any trust to any check) -- you have the option to do this:

Instead of (from townies perspective) figuring out who are 2 mafia in a pool of 7 players you have to either:
- Figure out who is one mafia in a pool of X players and one mafia in a pool of Y players, or
- Figure out who are two mafia in a pool of A players and you instantly have B players who are clear

Both of those options are better than trying to figure out who are 2 mafia in 7 players, because the logical deduction becomes easier, especially if/when we manage to lynch mafia.

I think it is pretty obtuse to not try to use the mechanics to your advantage, it's like saying in a normal game that you didnt use your cop role because you think it's unfair... The why join a game like that at all?

Rayn is scum, TT is town, we win


I'm in Shockeyy + Sent world or one of them + DrH right now.

Because I'm sure Shockeyy is reading the thread but just choosing not to post. Sent on the other hand just doesn't have an opinion on anything or make himself attackable for anything.

TT + rayn just going for stuff that doesn't people mafia, but not unlikely to be from town for now. Currently I think it's the usual fallacy where townies get hooked on stuff active people post because they forgot yet again that they can't find anything if you don't give them anything. Then because they're wrong they do stuff that isn't logical and get called mafia for it and the cycle perpetuates etc.

So I'm trying to not perpetuate that cycle just cause they're wrong on me or do stuff suggestive of mafia like reading early posts in a tryhard context or mentioning something 1. illogical and 2. irrelevant to the read on me like TT did.

I don't see anything wrong with this

FWIW I am busy yesterday + today but promise to be more active starting tomorrow evening, both because I will have free time but also because it won't be Day 1 anymore

But at least for now my finger of suspicion is on TT for being in the thread without really doing anything
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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
April 19 2021 19:05 GMT
#107
Worked like 20 hours over the weekend and I dont feel like doing anything today, this game included.

Rayn and Slam seem like they are town to me, Sho/Vivax is my guess for the scum team

Already said my only thought re:DrH, Vivax pushing him just seems defensive and a little desperate to me. As in he doesn't want to make reads and so pushes the guy who hasn't posted.

Sentinel is being a pot.
I can take that responsibility.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7814 Posts
April 19 2021 19:44 GMT
#108
On April 20 2021 04:05 Tictock wrote:
Worked like 20 hours over the weekend and I dont feel like doing anything today, this game included.



On April 18 2021 15:39 Tictock wrote:
As an alternative, I suggest we ##Vote:Shockeyy

Because...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvPaEsuz-tY

Especially...
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2021 04:06 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Thankfully this started right after all my meetings. Literally have been in 4 meetings, all an hour long. Holy fuck what a drain. Anyways. Hi, I'm VT. Going to try my best in figuring out who's mafia and needs to be lynched. The first person I want to question is Rayn.

Rayn, why are you AFK?


When you have nothing to say.


What a joke. I open the game with some inside joke between Rayn and I and TT then thrashes me for it, then goes and does the same exact thing anyways. Lol...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 19 2021 19:54 GMT
#109
On April 20 2021 04:05 Tictock wrote:
Already said my only thought re:DrH, Vivax pushing him just seems defensive and a little desperate to me. As in he doesn't want to make reads and so pushes the guy who hasn't posted.

I dont think Vivax is really pushing him. He is or was just using him as an excuse to not do anything when he could have actually done something useful..
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9300 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-19 20:02:30
April 19 2021 20:00 GMT
#110
Deadline.

Votecount:
Vivax (2) - Rayn, TT
DrH (1) - Vivax
Rayn (1) - Slam

Not Voting: [UoN]Sentinel, Shockeyy, DrH

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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9300 Posts
April 19 2021 20:03 GMT
#111
Vivax (VT) has died.

It is now Night 1. PM Host all night actions.

until end of Night 1.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 19 2021 20:05 GMT
#112
Still, i think if Vivax genuinely feels like two mafia is in shockeyy/Sentinel/drh he HAS to be VT. He like literally has to be, and if he was he would come out (or had already did that) and say he is a VT. Otherwise it doesnt make any sense because there is simply NEVER two mafia in those three people and Vivax should know that.

Unless one of Slam / TT is being really really stupid rn and not claiming VT while being one. But i dont really see that too since i dont understand why they would let us (or at least me) look into wrong places.

This is still the situation: me, shockeyy and sentinel have claimed VT. If someone knows at least one of us is lying they should come out and say that!!!! It is the right thing to do because chekcs are never ever gonna solve this game. Cops would need to randomly check into same person AND neither of them would have to get roleblocked. It is basically impossible. Therefore there cannot be two mafia in me/sentinel/shockeyy/drh. That's how it is. Hell there cannot even be ONE mafia unless drh happens to be VT.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 19 2021 20:05 GMT
#113
Oh fuck you Vivax...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 19 2021 20:06 GMT
#114
Next time please put the countdown timer as you promise so i know when the deadline is. Stupid DST always.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7814 Posts
April 19 2021 20:20 GMT
#115
On April 20 2021 05:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Next time please put the countdown timer as you promise so i know when the deadline is. Stupid DST always.


This, totes my bad... but wow on the vivax kill :\
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 19 2021 20:22 GMT
#116
Well who's mafia shockeyy?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9300 Posts
April 19 2021 20:30 GMT
#117
On April 20 2021 05:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Next time please put the countdown timer as you promise so i know when the deadline is. Stupid DST always.


That's my bad. Sorry.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11319 Posts
April 19 2021 22:48 GMT
#118
Fuck forgot to vote
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States16071 Posts
April 20 2021 00:11 GMT
#119
Hijole

Rethink time

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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11319 Posts
April 20 2021 01:19 GMT
#120
On April 20 2021 09:11 Alakaslam wrote:
Hijole

Rethink time

Sent helvetica go go go

TT bad rayn good
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7814 Posts
April 20 2021 02:09 GMT
#121
On April 20 2021 05:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Still, i think if Vivax genuinely feels like two mafia is in shockeyy/Sentinel/drh he HAS to be VT. He like literally has to be, and if he was he would come out (or had already did that) and say he is a VT. Otherwise it doesnt make any sense because there is simply NEVER two mafia in those three people and Vivax should know that.

Unless one of Slam / TT is being really really stupid rn and not claiming VT while being one. But i dont really see that too since i dont understand why they would let us (or at least me) look into wrong places.

This is still the situation: me, shockeyy and sentinel have claimed VT. If someone knows at least one of us is lying they should come out and say that!!!! It is the right thing to do because chekcs are never ever gonna solve this game. Cops would need to randomly check into same person AND neither of them would have to get roleblocked. It is basically impossible. Therefore there cannot be two mafia in me/sentinel/shockeyy/drh. That's how it is. Hell there cannot even be ONE mafia unless drh happens to be VT.


/wink /wink.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States16071 Posts
April 20 2021 04:00 GMT
#122
On April 20 2021 11:09 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2021 05:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Still, i think if Vivax genuinely feels like two mafia is in shockeyy/Sentinel/drh he HAS to be VT. He like literally has to be, and if he was he would come out (or had already did that) and say he is a VT. Otherwise it doesnt make any sense because there is simply NEVER two mafia in those three people and Vivax should know that.

Unless one of Slam / TT is being really really stupid rn and not claiming VT while being one. But i dont really see that too since i dont understand why they would let us (or at least me) look into wrong places.

This is still the situation: me, shockeyy and sentinel have claimed VT. If someone knows at least one of us is lying they should come out and say that!!!! It is the right thing to do because chekcs are never ever gonna solve this game. Cops would need to randomly check into same person AND neither of them would have to get roleblocked. It is basically impossible. Therefore there cannot be two mafia in me/sentinel/shockeyy/drh. That's how it is. Hell there cannot even be ONE mafia unless drh happens to be VT.


/wink /wink.


Well I'm vt
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 20 2021 05:29 GMT
#123
On April 20 2021 13:00 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2021 11:09 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On April 20 2021 05:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Still, i think if Vivax genuinely feels like two mafia is in shockeyy/Sentinel/drh he HAS to be VT. He like literally has to be, and if he was he would come out (or had already did that) and say he is a VT. Otherwise it doesnt make any sense because there is simply NEVER two mafia in those three people and Vivax should know that.

Unless one of Slam / TT is being really really stupid rn and not claiming VT while being one. But i dont really see that too since i dont understand why they would let us (or at least me) look into wrong places.

This is still the situation: me, shockeyy and sentinel have claimed VT. If someone knows at least one of us is lying they should come out and say that!!!! It is the right thing to do because chekcs are never ever gonna solve this game. Cops would need to randomly check into same person AND neither of them would have to get roleblocked. It is basically impossible. Therefore there cannot be two mafia in me/sentinel/shockeyy/drh. That's how it is. Hell there cannot even be ONE mafia unless drh happens to be VT.


/wink /wink.


Well I'm vt

Are you being serious?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 20 2021 05:29 GMT
#124
Like if you are serious you need to say so right now.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 20 2021 05:47 GMT
#125
On April 20 2021 14:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like if you are serious you need to say so right now.

Actually no you dont need to, you can hold to D2.
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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
April 20 2021 19:59 GMT
#126
If I die, consider Shockeyy.

Need to rethink Rayn, but my gut still says town.

Overall we are pretty screwed with DrH not playing, well if he is town.
I can take that responsibility.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9300 Posts
April 20 2021 20:17 GMT
#127
Slam (VT) has died.

until end of Day 2.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 20 2021 20:18 GMT
#128
Oh dear.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 20 2021 20:18 GMT
#129
well game is solved and we will lose because drh is afk.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 20 2021 20:18 GMT
#130
##vote shockeyy
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 20 2021 20:19 GMT
#131
Actually we win, vote quick TT.
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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
April 20 2021 20:30 GMT
#132
##Vote: Shockeyy
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
April 20 2021 20:32 GMT
#133
I am a cop

Phone bugging out, will post che ks later
I can take that responsibility.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 20 2021 20:32 GMT
#134
You and drh are effectively clear. Two out of shockeyy/sentinel/me need to be mafia.
I dont care which one of those two you want to vote, if you want to change to sentinel (if you think there is a chance i am mafia) i am also up for it. Just make sure i am here when you vote since we have to assume drh is not gonna be here this phase either. rn we kill shockeyy with having voted first even if/when him and shockeyy vote together.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 20 2021 20:33 GMT
#135
EBWOP:
rn we kill shockeyy with having voted first even if/when sentinel and shockeyy vote together.
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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
April 20 2021 20:38 GMT
#136
Yea my thinking as well, even if you are mafia

Sho returned mafia
Rayn returned town

Obviously subject to sanity or framing
However pretty likely there is mafia between them
I can take that responsibility.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 20 2021 20:50 GMT
#137
We three have claimed VT, two VT's have died.
Two of us have to be mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 20 2021 20:52 GMT
#138
I just wish Vivax (and Slam) would have said they are VT, this would have been a lot easier. Hell Vivax even got it right in the beginning, i am sorry i just couldnt see it townie when he clearly didnt call VT claims liar. I think he should have done that.
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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
April 20 2021 20:57 GMT
#139
I get it.

I also noticed both Sho and Sent setting me up as a badguy.y

Was secretly.hoping DrH was getting modkilled and we could more easily shrug this game off
I can take that responsibility.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7814 Posts
April 20 2021 20:59 GMT
#140
Rayn, really? as a mafia, why the fuck would I not get the chance to vote out town vivax? Also killing slam was Tictocks easiest task to frame me as mafia. We still havent even had the second cop come out and yet some how I'm automatically mafia because slam died. Like how does that make sense?
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7814 Posts
April 20 2021 21:03 GMT
#141
On April 21 2021 05:38 Tictock wrote:
Yea my thinking as well, even if you are mafia

Sho returned mafia
Rayn returned town

Obviously subject to sanity or framing
However pretty likely there is mafia between them


Of course I return mafia if you frame me... btw, I'm cop, and I checked you, and rayn and guess what?
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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
April 20 2021 21:07 GMT
#142
On April 21 2021 06:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2021 05:38 Tictock wrote:
Yea my thinking as well, even if you are mafia

Sho returned mafia
Rayn returned town

Obviously subject to sanity or framing
However pretty likely there is mafia between them


Of course I return mafia if you frame me... btw, I'm cop, and I checked you, and rayn and guess what?


It had better be as good as I think it's gunna be
I can take that responsibility.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 20 2021 21:27 GMT
#143
On April 21 2021 06:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2021 05:38 Tictock wrote:
Yea my thinking as well, even if you are mafia

Sho returned mafia
Rayn returned town

Obviously subject to sanity or framing
However pretty likely there is mafia between them


Of course I return mafia if you frame me... btw, I'm cop, and I checked you, and rayn and guess what?

You already said you are a VT so i am not going to believe you.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7814 Posts
April 20 2021 21:36 GMT
#144
On April 21 2021 06:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2021 06:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On April 21 2021 05:38 Tictock wrote:
Yea my thinking as well, even if you are mafia

Sho returned mafia
Rayn returned town

Obviously subject to sanity or framing
However pretty likely there is mafia between them


Of course I return mafia if you frame me... btw, I'm cop, and I checked you, and rayn and guess what?

You already said you are a VT so i am not going to believe you.


Why would i claim cop n0 lol
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7814 Posts
April 20 2021 21:37 GMT
#145
On April 21 2021 06:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2021 06:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On April 21 2021 05:38 Tictock wrote:
Yea my thinking as well, even if you are mafia

Sho returned mafia
Rayn returned town

Obviously subject to sanity or framing
However pretty likely there is mafia between them


Of course I return mafia if you frame me... btw, I'm cop, and I checked you, and rayn and guess what?

You already said you are a VT so i am not going to believe you.


and technically im still part of town, so VT isn't too far off.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7814 Posts
April 20 2021 21:38 GMT
#146
Of course tictock had to claim cop first cause he knew his strategy. Honestly do you believe if DrH, Sent or I are mafia together, we'd all be afk for vote?... At least one mafia needed to be there to vote, and that was TT.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7814 Posts
April 20 2021 21:40 GMT
#147
On April 20 2021 04:44 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2021 04:05 Tictock wrote:
Worked like 20 hours over the weekend and I dont feel like doing anything today, this game included.



Show nested quote +
On April 18 2021 15:39 Tictock wrote:
As an alternative, I suggest we ##Vote:Shockeyy

Because...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvPaEsuz-tY

Especially...
On April 17 2021 04:06 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Thankfully this started right after all my meetings. Literally have been in 4 meetings, all an hour long. Holy fuck what a drain. Anyways. Hi, I'm VT. Going to try my best in figuring out who's mafia and needs to be lynched. The first person I want to question is Rayn.

Rayn, why are you AFK?


When you have nothing to say.


What a joke. I open the game with some inside joke between Rayn and I and TT then thrashes me for it, then goes and does the same exact thing anyways. Lol...


He's going to try to manipulate you Rayn, here is is basically being a hypocrite.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7814 Posts
April 20 2021 21:43 GMT
#148
On April 20 2021 05:00 Hapahauli wrote:
Deadline.

Votecount:
Vivax (2) - Rayn, TT
DrH (1) - Vivax
Rayn (1) - Slam

Not Voting: [UoN]Sentinel, Shockeyy, DrH



Vivax and Slam are both 100% VT, then there's TT the only other person to vote.

Then I honestly believe that either Sent or DrH are the second cop/mafia. TT needed to obviously make a move here since his partner was AFK for the vote anyways.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 21 2021 17:42 GMT
#149
If youre truly a cop you need to vote for either me or sentinel because there is only 1 vt left and we have definitely both hard claimed vt. I can do sentinel instead of you, because i know for certain he is mafia.

What were tour checks again?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 21 2021 21:54 GMT
#150
So is this how the game is gonna go?
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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
April 21 2021 22:34 GMT
#151
Sure seems to be
I can take that responsibility.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 21 2021 22:43 GMT
#152
TT, do you want to vote for Sentinel instead of shockeyy?
I think there is like 0,1% chance shockeyy is town, but Sentinel hard claimed VT and i know he is lying atm.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 21 2021 22:43 GMT
#153
On April 19 2021 01:33 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2021 16:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 18 2021 15:51 Tictock wrote:
I just don't want to play claim wars, I've never wanted to.

That's not what mafia is about to me.

It is not about it being claim wars. The game is unsolvable with claims or checks. However it gives us advantage in opposition to the situation as it is now. Do not worry, there needs to be and will be scumhunting. The idea however is that because of the roles being "useless" -- since even if youre a cop you dont know and cant know which cop you are (basically meaning there should pretty much never be any trust to any check) -- you have the option to do this:

Instead of (from townies perspective) figuring out who are 2 mafia in a pool of 7 players you have to either:
- Figure out who is one mafia in a pool of X players and one mafia in a pool of Y players, or
- Figure out who are two mafia in a pool of A players and you instantly have B players who are clear

Both of those options are better than trying to figure out who are 2 mafia in 7 players, because the logical deduction becomes easier, especially if/when we manage to lynch mafia.

I think it is pretty obtuse to not try to use the mechanics to your advantage, it's like saying in a normal game that you didnt use your cop role because you think it's unfair... The why join a game like that at all?

I can get behind this

Assuming all claims we either end up with 2 cop claims and lynch out of 5 or we end up with more than 2 cop claims and what rayn said

VT here

Sentinel needs to be mafia 100% of the time.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 21 2021 22:46 GMT
#154
If you agree with me please dont just change your vote, you need to have me here since we need to assume drh can be town and if that's it, if one of us votes withouth the other one then were fucked if shock/sent mafia team consolidates.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 21 2021 22:51 GMT
#155
On April 21 2021 06:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2021 05:38 Tictock wrote:
Yea my thinking as well, even if you are mafia

Sho returned mafia
Rayn returned town

Obviously subject to sanity or framing
However pretty likely there is mafia between them


Of course I return mafia if you frame me... btw, I'm cop, and I checked you, and rayn and guess what?

you go girl!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 21 2021 22:53 GMT
#156
nah TT it is just shockeyy and Sentinel.
shockeyy is not having fun, he is holding on his check against "scum"
nonono.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 21 2021 22:54 GMT
#157
shockeyy is mafia final answer. so is sentinel.
sorry vivax but next time just say youre a vt.
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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
April 21 2021 22:58 GMT
#158
I mean seems pretty clear to me Sho/Sent are mafia and DrH is the other cop.

My only concern had been if you were mafia with DrH

Sho is clearly lying about being a cop

But I don't care how this plays out

I can take that responsibility.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 21 2021 23:02 GMT
#159
you want to keep voting shokceyy?
i need to go for today so i just want to know.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 21 2021 23:03 GMT
#160
technically me and drh can be mafia.
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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
April 21 2021 23:08 GMT
#161
On April 22 2021 08:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
technically me and drh can be mafia.


Only if I believe Sho is a cop, or Sent is an afk cop.

The window on that closed for me yesterday

I just don't care because the process of playing this out seems tedious. Otherwise I think we just stay on Sho
I can take that responsibility.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 21 2021 23:37 GMT
#162
for me the best play is to vote sentinel.
dont worry i think shockeyy is mafia too, i am just 100% sure sentinel is mafia because he hard claimed vt.

i dont think you can be mafia so its up to you, shockeyy is still like 99,3% mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 21 2021 23:39 GMT
#163
shockeyy hasnt claimed his checks still so lets stay on him, maybe he will find the need to dot hat at some point :p
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 21 2021 23:39 GMT
#164
On April 22 2021 07:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2021 06:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On April 21 2021 05:38 Tictock wrote:
Yea my thinking as well, even if you are mafia

Sho returned mafia
Rayn returned town

Obviously subject to sanity or framing
However pretty likely there is mafia between them


Of course I return mafia if you frame me... btw, I'm cop, and I checked you, and rayn and guess what?

you go girl!

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 21 2021 23:55 GMT
#165
On April 22 2021 08:08 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2021 08:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
technically me and drh can be mafia.


Only if I believe Sho is a cop, or Sent is an afk cop.


sent is always either vt or mafia.
i am always vt or mafia.
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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
April 22 2021 00:53 GMT
#166
I will be around before deadline if you really want to switch
I can take that responsibility.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 22 2021 18:57 GMT
#167
I would prefer that, but i am at friends place let me get home first.
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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
April 22 2021 19:16 GMT
#168
I am around
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
April 22 2021 19:19 GMT
#169
On April 21 2021 06:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2021 05:38 Tictock wrote:
Yea my thinking as well, even if you are mafia

Sho returned mafia
Rayn returned town

Obviously subject to sanity or framing
However pretty likely there is mafia between them


Of course I return mafia if you frame me... btw, I'm cop, and I checked you, and rayn and guess what?


Since he never bothered to actually claim checks, I will point out Sho's implied checks here would mean He and I cannot both be cop. He is implying I returned mafia and you Town. Which would be impossible for both cops to get the same return on one person checked the same night.

I still don't care, just pointing that out.
I can take that responsibility.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 22 2021 19:30 GMT
#170
I know. I also know people can do stupid things and that's all implications. I however also know that sentinel claimed to be vt 100% knowing what he was doing (my plan) and he must be lying. Although, you dont know that for 100% sure and i need to stick with you anyways.

So are you up for changing votes?
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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
April 22 2021 19:35 GMT
#171
sure, rdy to go
I can take that responsibility.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 22 2021 19:36 GMT
#172
##unvote
##vote sentinel
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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
April 22 2021 19:36 GMT
#173
##Unvote

##Vote: [UoN]Sentinel
I can take that responsibility.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 22 2021 19:38 GMT
#174
On April 21 2021 06:38 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Of course tictock had to claim cop first cause he knew his strategy. Honestly do you believe if DrH, Sent or I are mafia together, we'd all be afk for vote?... At least one mafia needed to be there to vote, and that was TT.

For future this also doesnt even make any sense, since if shockeyy and sentinel are mafia they dont need to be around to vote (even though they were around, at least shockeyy was -- as per his own words). The people having votes D1 were Vivax, DrH, and rayn. Why does shockeyy or sentinel "need to vote"?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 22 2021 19:40 GMT
#175
On April 20 2021 05:20 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2021 05:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Next time please put the countdown timer as you promise so i know when the deadline is. Stupid DST always.


This, totes my bad... but wow on the vivax kill :\

like this guy was for sure around for the deadline.
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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
April 22 2021 19:43 GMT
#176
On April 23 2021 04:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2021 06:38 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Of course tictock had to claim cop first cause he knew his strategy. Honestly do you believe if DrH, Sent or I are mafia together, we'd all be afk for vote?... At least one mafia needed to be there to vote, and that was TT.

For future this also doesnt even make any sense, since if shockeyy and sentinel are mafia they dont need to be around to vote (even though they were around, at least shockeyy was -- as per his own words). The people having votes D1 were Vivax, DrH, and rayn. Why does shockeyy or sentinel "need to vote"?


I realized this too, but at that point was only going to respond when he posted checks.

If no mafia are up for lynch then they have very little incentive to care or vote
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
April 22 2021 19:49 GMT
#177
I'm even ok if you and Sho are in fact mafia (pretty unlikely) and this ends the game

The way they were both making posts like this though...
On April 20 2021 10:19 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2021 09:11 Alakaslam wrote:
Hijole

Rethink time

Sent helvetica go go go

TT bad rayn good

On April 20 2021 11:09 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2021 05:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Still, i think if Vivax genuinely feels like two mafia is in shockeyy/Sentinel/drh he HAS to be VT. He like literally has to be, and if he was he would come out (or had already did that) and say he is a VT. Otherwise it doesnt make any sense because there is simply NEVER two mafia in those three people and Vivax should know that.

Unless one of Slam / TT is being really really stupid rn and not claiming VT while being one. But i dont really see that too since i dont understand why they would let us (or at least me) look into wrong places.

This is still the situation: me, shockeyy and sentinel have claimed VT. If someone knows at least one of us is lying they should come out and say that!!!! It is the right thing to do because chekcs are never ever gonna solve this game. Cops would need to randomly check into same person AND neither of them would have to get roleblocked. It is basically impossible. Therefore there cannot be two mafia in me/sentinel/shockeyy/drh. That's how it is. Hell there cannot even be ONE mafia unless drh happens to be VT.


/wink /wink.


Just makes it seem like I was the predetermined target for them today for some reason. Likely because you said you were considering them locked town at one point.
I can take that responsibility.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 22 2021 19:56 GMT
#178
yeah, i would have really liked if vivax or slam (pref both) came out and said at least one of me, shockeyy, sent needs to be lying about being vt. this game was really boring for me because i dint have anything except that i had to look into wrong places all d1.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9300 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-22 20:01:09
April 22 2021 20:00 GMT
#179
[UoN]Sentinel was lynched.

until end of Night 2.

Votes:
[UoN]Sentinel (2) - Rayn, TT
Not Voting (3) - Shockeyy, [UoN]Sentinel, DrH
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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
April 22 2021 20:01 GMT
#180
Woot
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
April 22 2021 20:01 GMT
#181
On April 19 2021 23:30 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2021 22:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On April 19 2021 20:59 Vivax wrote:
On April 19 2021 20:07 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On April 19 2021 16:22 Vivax wrote:
Rayn overexplained my shitposting and feels like he needs to make a case out of it.

TT cites something irrelevant to the conclusions he's making (=I'm scum) with no discernable logic behind it so that looks like a half-assed + 1 to rayns summary from where I'm standing. As if that's the best thing he could come up with while agreeing to vote me without saying he was voting me for rayn's reasons.

Shockeyy right at the beginning of the day somehow manages to not realize I was having the same opinion as him while accusing me of sniffing something out, for some reason.

On April 17 2021 06:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On April 17 2021 05:38 Vivax wrote:
I'm feeling like I got shot in the spine for a week now and can barely do anything. It's like fast forwarding to being 90. /rant

That said if mafia had a kill I'd have said we should all shut up for the night. What's the game plan here with this setup? Ideas? Getting an agreement on a single target both cops should be checking doesn't seem like a good idea with the framer.


What are you trying to sniff out here? I don't think agreeing on a single target is going to be useful where mafia can frame...


I don't know who's town of you three but whoever is, is playing very lazily.


I asked you a question, which you didn’t answer, and then I agreed with you. How is that a problem?


That's not worded at all as if you were agreeing with me.


We’re literally saying the same thing, how is that not agreeing?


So when you agree with someone you just ask them what they're trying to sniff out, then repeat what they just said? Okay, interesting. Are you more of a dog or a cat person?

Btw you claimed cop didn't you.


I mostly swapped to Vivax because I realized nobody was consolidating, but this post made me pretty locked it >.<
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
April 22 2021 20:02 GMT
#182
Well now we wait a day, see who dies, and repeat this process once more...

Weeeeeee!
I can take that responsibility.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 22 2021 20:04 GMT
#183
On April 23 2021 05:02 Tictock wrote:
Well now we wait a day, see who dies, and repeat this process once more...

Weeeeeee!

yeah we are also both confirmed town now because we could have easily won if scum.

that was my good read from d1.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11319 Posts
April 22 2021 20:10 GMT
#184
GGWP sorry I couldn't be more active
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 22 2021 20:15 GMT
#185
Do we know if Sentinel is a roleblocker or not?
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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
April 22 2021 20:25 GMT
#186
I believe the RB and Frame were faction based and the mafia are both just goons
I can take that responsibility.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 22 2021 20:34 GMT
#187
oh right, factional rb and ONE factional frame.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 22 2021 20:39 GMT
#188
You know what you need to do TT, right? On D3.
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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
April 22 2021 20:40 GMT
#189
Yea I get it, I should be capable
I can take that responsibility.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 22 2021 20:42 GMT
#190
If DrH somehow appears you need to convince him that you are confirmed town. Should be easy because the game would be over already in case me or you were the other mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 23 2021 11:41 GMT
#191
+ Show Spoiler [bump so maybe DrH will magically arriv…] +
Very Finnish problems.
Yesterday +20C, today:
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le tits now!

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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
April 23 2021 20:32 GMT
#192
Ok, so I am at work and have done my best to refresh this waiting for daypost.

if I am alive I am voting for sho
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
April 23 2021 20:32 GMT
#193
##Vote: Shockeyy
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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
April 23 2021 21:21 GMT
#194
I think Hapa conceeded
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 23 2021 21:37 GMT
#195
me too
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9300 Posts
April 23 2021 23:01 GMT
#196
Ack sorry I had a work emergency
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 23 2021 23:05 GMT
#197
##vote shockeyy
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 23 2021 23:06 GMT
#198
i really need to go to bed so if this is gonna decide the game then be it.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9300 Posts
April 23 2021 23:08 GMT
#199
Sooooo... I fucked up the hosting in this game by not doing the deadline on time today.

Therefore, I'm going to, perhaps controversially, no-contest this game.

Rayn (VT)
TT (Sane Cop)
DrH (Insane Cop)
Shockeyy

DrH going completely AFK created a really frustrating scenario for me as a host. I would normally modkill an inactive slot without hesitation, however, modkilling him as town effectively wins the game as mafia.

Therefore, we are left in a very dumb situation at LYLO where first person to vote (between TT and Shockeyy) wins. TT and Rayn definitely understood this, and by all accounts should have won the game for town. My work emergency kinda fucked this, and it would be kinda dumb for me to post the daypost right now and create a random race to win the game. That's not really playing mafia.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9300 Posts
April 23 2021 23:09 GMT
#200
Again, apologies to the players involved. Plz don't flame me too bad.

Happy to host another one again, though hopefully with active players.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
April 23 2021 23:19 GMT
#201
Shit happens, and I thought it was super lame to end the game based on a "who votes first" case anyhow.

I don't care how you decide to rule the game, I am really happy with my reads (was only wrong on Vivax becuase I was convinced he was partners with Sho even though in retrospect that was stupid) and nailed Sho off one post. Me and Rayn worked well together so in my mind Town won.

Forget what I said earlier Rayn, was happy to play with you. I was just a little irked and the narrative fit, I know you are a better person than that.
I can take that responsibility.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8566 Posts
April 24 2021 00:02 GMT
#202
On April 24 2021 08:09 Hapahauli wrote:
Plz don't flame me too bad.




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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 24 2021 16:03 GMT
#203
We need to CPR these forums
I'm adorable.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States16071 Posts
April 24 2021 16:04 GMT
#204
Sorry rayn I read you badly
Drinking food, eating water; tomé leche, come lechuga
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
April 25 2021 12:09 GMT
#205
On April 24 2021 08:19 Tictock wrote:
Forget what I said earlier Rayn, was happy to play with you. I was just a little irked and the narrative fit, I know you are a better person than that.

On April 25 2021 01:04 Alakaslam wrote:
Sorry rayn I read you badly

Dont worry it's cool.
gg and sorry Vivax. :/
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11319 Posts
April 26 2021 03:40 GMT
#206
I was honestly hoping to be more active but last week was probably my most intense week at work to date.

GG
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Austria19302 Posts
April 26 2021 11:52 GMT
#207
I'm good, but this habit of never policy lynching annoys me. Then one wouldn't just be looking at what active players post (you always find something if you go in looking for it).
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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-27 01:29:41
April 27 2021 01:24 GMT
#208
On April 26 2021 20:52 Vivax wrote:
I'm good, but this habit of never policy lynching annoys me. Then one wouldn't just be looking at what active players post (you always find something if you go in looking for it).


In retrospect that may have been the best call, however in a game this small the very fact that a player joining and not playing is the larger issue. As being "forced" to lynch out of policy is very detrimental to the game especially in this case where town would be down a lynch, a role, and just as demotivated to try.

So, I think the lesson here should be Don't join a game unless you can put in a bare minimum of effort. Of course life still will happen though.

I also didn't feel like you were proposing to lynch DrH out of policy this game, but that may just have been due to my own perspective of the game at that point.
I can take that responsibility.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7814 Posts
April 27 2021 19:27 GMT
#209
I could of still won...

Vivax got lynched, that's a win for me.
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