EPTWhat is the definition of an incredibly weak meta read?
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Tictock
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What is the definition of an incredibly weak meta read? | ||
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That is on the level of "he only posts this seal as town" Sure, maybe it is true. But there is absolutely no reason why it can't be wrong. | ||
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On November 28 2020 16:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: idk, when anyone tries to meta rayn? My bad, I thought I was playing jeopardy there. Your post I quoted there was the answer | ||
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Unfortunately this puts us at something of an impass as my own poorly formed town reads on Vivax/FF (actually I am fairly confident on Vivax but FF is more tonal) leaves me looking at Jock. | ||
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I only get that you see him being hypocritical, which to me is standard human behavior so I am gonna need a bit more | ||
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Have to leave for work in 5 hours >.< | ||
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On November 28 2020 16:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yes i think he is being hypocritical. Let me ask you, do you think you are being hypocritical when you play mafia? In sense of gameplay and what you believe makes people mafia? I have definitely found myself focusing on lurkers while lurking themselves. I generally hate meta reads but I have to admit I use them myself to some extent. So yes. I also think that when people change their thinking or are reacting to an immediate situation they often behave in ways that contradict what they say | ||
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Tictock
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On November 28 2020 17:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay whenever you get to this think about it: Trfel wants to lynch jock. He was also okay with lynching Vivax and didnt really care if FF dies. There has to be at least one town there. Unless you want to believe there is 3 mafia. Do you think Trfel ever actually tried to discern which is the push that is incorrect? I think he has very clearly preffered to lynch Jock. I can absolutely understand having a scum read as well as a handful of people you just don't know how to read and are thus ok with multiple targets. Like it's probably not a 1 to 1 comparison but you had a similar position with your mayor submission last phase right? I definitely recall you asking for input as you weren't too locked in on one person How is this situation different? | ||
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On November 28 2020 17:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: Of course, i think people in this game (you too -- actually towards me) have been using this as a scapegoat to call someone mafia. That's why i asked you if it bothers you that you call me mafia for having reads and other people call me mafia for NOT having reads. It just doesnt mean anything lol ^^ For as much as you play mafia it always amazes me that you expect people to behave rationally. I understand what you mean though. I thought I had more to add here but I think sleep is finally beconing as I am loosing focus | ||
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On November 28 2020 09:13 Trfel wrote: Noooo, talk to me.....  @ShoCkeyy, why are you changing votes (assuming you are)? I know you said you can see both Jockmcplop and Vivax as mafia, but it's hard for me to see you actually caring about who gets lynched, you just seem to be willing to vote for whoever thread sentiment is against. On one hand it's good to be willing to consolidate in a majority lynch game, on the other hand it seems suspect to not even care... Honestly if this is what you are talking about, then.... No, Trfel is just over wording a question about Sho changing votes. I think the wishy-washy language is what is triggering you here. I don't think he is trying to imply Sho is scum he just doesn't understand what Sho is thinking | ||
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On November 28 2020 17:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: I know he is preferred in lynching jock. However he is "giving chances" on Vivax and FF. I know that's fine, but there comes in the live as you preach. shockeyy somehow is not allowed to consolidate, or at least it is questionable. I find it weird from someone who would root for rayn in case i switched my vote now (100% sure  ).I dont think mayor shit is comparable. I kinda wish i executed FF instead of Grack even if it was worse for town because i think i would have more say with lynching mafia. Now i feel useless and i think i have done most of what i can to not lynch town. :/ This is definitely different than mayoral lynch if that's what you are talking about. As for the mayor thing, I just mean in terms of having scum reads not voting mechanics. This is also why I was pushing to kill FF D1 and made that post about Grack being more readable as the game goes on whereas I suspect FF will always be a question mark. However we are where we are now. | ||
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We do need to consolidate though due to majority. I won't be able to post or read much but I can change my vote if so have to. | ||
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I talked about my Hapa read with you already Trfel? Plus the roleblock thing seemed legit, even though you could argue Hapa was using that as cover to dodge the game. It's a weird time though and we just lynched a townie who had disappeared so prob not a good metric. | ||
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I thought his second entry to the thread was more compelling as it suggested he had forgotten he'd already made a few posts. Now I am not so sure why that made more sense to come from from mafia but that is where my head was at then. FF seems like a good lynch tomorrow, though since we will be in mylo we should try and make the best of the time we have. I might put in some time this phase but will probably try at Day. | ||
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On November 25 2020 16:41 Alakaslam wrote: Sadly I think I’m a classic case of Zenigata though, as much as everyone wants to be Lupin Figured I'd take a quick look at slams filter just kus I thought him being killed N1 might have been a bit revealing but I have to assume this post tipped off mafia that he was cop. Otherwise I am the only person implicated by this kill, by way of me being Slams major scum read. | ||
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On November 29 2020 17:59 ShoCkeyy wrote: TT let’s go back to rayns Trfel is mafia. Going back to Slams posts, this one stood out the most to me, since that’s what happened if Trfel is mafia. It seemed like forewarning too. I’m willing to train the though of Trfel being mafia and the pardoner I am willing to entertain Trfel being mafia, but I don't see how pardoner matters really. Kus if he uses it it's a scum claim. Should be 4v2 tomorrow. If the lynch is prevented it's 3v2 d4 and clear who to lynch Even if he were to wait and allow his partner to be lynched then it's 3v1 D4 and pardoning his own lynch would also not win a scum!Trfel the win. | ||
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Rayn is right about his "who voted Jock and why post" as it is very much so FF using Jock flipping town to push people as mafia which is ironic when FF was the first on the wagon. | ||
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In other news Sho is a weird kill... not totally sure what I make of it yet but seems like that points to Hapa being scum to me. I say that as I feel like a Sho kill indicates mafia was blue hunting. As I assume we should have All claims happen today, I am VT. And I will be decently happy if my yolo scum team D1 is correct. | ||
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On November 30 2020 07:59 Hapahauli wrote: Ooooh interesting. I am a Mad Hatter. My intent in playing as I did (not running for mayor) was to have a chance of using my role. I targeted Vivax N1 (roleblocked) on the basis of my scumread. I targeted Shockeyy N2, in that if I was killed, I would rather leave town in a position where they had to worry about one less lurker. Plus, if I take someone down with me (even if my read is incorrect), it's still LYLO as opposed to MYLO. I do not think Trfel's claim necessarily makes him mafia. I'm also not sure why someone else being roleblocked tonight would confirm "one of me or Trfel" as mafia. More thoughts when I'm home tonight. Why would mafia leave you alive after you claimed? Like if I try and look at a world where both of you are town, then mafia is going "why did this guy claim rb" D2 and yet somehow they decide to RB Trfel and Shoot Sho last Night? That makes no sense | ||
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On November 30 2020 08:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: why does mafia always know there is a jailkeeper?can you explain it to me as i am dumb and 5y? The only situation I can see where Trfels pov here is wrong is that both he and mafia targeted Hapa. What would be really interesting here is if Hapa is mafia RB and got blocked then used his RB on Trfel last night. If Trfel is mafiaRB here I again don't get why Hapa wasn't the kill last night after claiming he was RBd. | ||
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