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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
I am interested in the Jock stuff as he is the person I most forget is in this game (actually he might be tied with Sho). Mildly worried about the potential of mafia playing well and us slackers are in fact town but that is just a bit of fear and paranoia. Part of this is from the shot on Slam, but I think for now I will just assume he was a blue snipe | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
However the same could be said of multiple people. I don't really see mafia switching a vote last min or calling to make Grack Pardoner so the role dies either, but that's kinda wifom. Lastly, I think a Vivax/Jock team is unlikely given some of vivax's posts on Jock. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On November 27 2020 08:55 Trfel wrote: Does this feel weird to anyone else? Tictock was scumreading Fecalfeast and townreading Grackaroni. On one hand, I could see Tictock trying to word his argument in a way that's persuasive to me, but on the other hand, shouldn't he be restating his reasons to scumread Fecalfeast and townread Grackaroni? And this, which Tictock threw in 11 minutes to end of day. If he didn't want Grackaroni to die (by the way, he just said a few posts previously that he was okay with Grackaroni dying), shouldn't he prefer killing Fecalfeast to ShoCkeyy? Given that he actually has reasons to suspect Fecalfeast and ShoCkeyy is just a lurker? Both of these basically come down to me trying to motivate a kill I was comfortable with in a situation where it was ultimately out of my control. I find myself thinking FF might be town here as well, not really sure when that started. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
That...seems reasonable actually. Glanced through Sho's filter and dont get much from it. It seems like he might just be following thread sentiment with his reads but I am not really able to go check right now. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On November 27 2020 07:00 Hapahauli wrote: The point is that in addition to having this attitude of "lets lynch any one of these people", he also takes opposition to town's attempt to consolidate on the Grack lynch. It is the combination of these two things that is anti-town, because he shits on Town's one effort to consolidate while providing no alternative. It's purely criticism as opposed to anything constructive. This bit reads as a bit disengenuis. Vivax's post was trying to tell Rayn (who was not his pick as Mayor) who he wanted to see flip. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
I don't see why a mafia!vivax would push away from a mislynch on someone he has only stated is a null read. Going to look into the Jock stuff tomorrow. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
Had some minor shit come up this morning but I should have some time today. I will not be around for deadline tomorrow however. Oh and before I filter, I don't find Rayns case on FF very compelling either. Ff is low effort but his tone has been reading as town to me. @Rayn Do you think FF has a better chance at being mafia then Sho? | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
I kinda even want to say Rayn is mafia for saying Jock is town. There is like no reason.the Ryan I know could say the filter I just read is a confident town read. Jock is like the definition of blendy sidelining. I see at most 2 interesting posts (not a simple question or fluff) and one of those is softing a scum read on Trfel for changing his mind... ##Vote: Jock | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
I'm don't quite get the same "blendy lurker" vibe as I get from Jock. It is more a low effort town vibe. Best thing I can point to is the post FF pinged out where Jock made a list post of mayor lynch prefferrance. Which I agree with FF is a type of "helpful but not real content" post mafia like to make. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
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Tictock
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
Honestly I am not totally sure how to read them well. I have only played with Hapa once and I was mafia so him not feeling as obviuse town as I was him that game is not a good basis for a read. Still that feeling and not really liking/agreeing with his reads this game has me a little sus. As for Rayn I have been able to see where Rayn is coming from in general and have agreed with his reads, so is most likely town. However his play does feel in line with his mafia play in that he doesn't have as clear a focus as I tend to see him have and was willing to do what other people wanted over his own prefferrance as Mayor. None of that is really sufficient to call him scum but it does keep me from having a lock town read on him. Right now I do not understand where Rayn is coming from and disagree with his reads but am wanting to see his responses before I go much further on that. And just for a disclaimer: None of this effects the current state of the game where we should be lynching Jock kus he is super likely to flip mafia. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On November 28 2020 10:31 Trfel wrote: Sorry I'm a bit distracted, started playing Magic with some guys, I'll be around here still though. Nice! I recently introduced my roommates to MtG and they have proceeded to spend thousands of dollars on it. Was cool to see the enthusiasm but I sorta created a monster. We are starting to move into EDH so I expect this problem to get worse before it gets better. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On November 28 2020 14:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: I just got home but i have really no care level to talk with mafia. This is a very mafia!Rayn post. Hasn't shared much of a reason to backup his recent Trfel scum read, moved from Vivax to FF with little reason (also splitting the votes further on a majority lynch) also the Vivax stuff kinda just evaporated. Even said D1 he doesnt have the clearest scum reads. So, yea this post is bullshit as I don't believe Rayn has this strong of a scum read on anyone this game. Seems like an excuse. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
No offense man, if you are beat after a long day I am not going to sit here antagonizing you more than this. Go rest, I am clearly not opposed to proritizing this game last. I will still call out shit and go off on whatever theory I dam well please. Besides, you have to admit that was a bad post. Whenever you have given proper attention to your real life needs Rayn and feel you have time for the game I would love to hear why you town read Jock. I for one am 100% for lynching Jock, and given I won't be around for deadline I would like for town to be consolidating more. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
I mean like even i understand what jock's question for me was about and it is actually smart (if i was dumb mafia). If you cannot grasp it, then i am sorry you will probably continue on your path and shit the bed anyways.... This is the reason why people dislike playing with you rayn | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
And about the end of your post, please don't misconstrue me calling out one bullshit post by you as me saying all your posts are bullshit. Now, I have made a bunch of posts about my read on Vivax. My FF read is weak, but I don't see why he stands out of Jock/Sho/FF. To me Jock is the clear blendy mafia here. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On November 28 2020 16:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: Then why dont they ask me? Jock thinks at this point that i am being too "soft" for hapa. I said i think hapa might be scum, he asks if it's a scumread or not and i answer. He doesnt push it further because my answer is okay for him. Had i said "no not really do i think it looks bad for hapa" then he had called me mafia. That's that. No I was referring to the way you act like you hold some secret that makes you smart and if we don't we aren't. Then you imply I will shit the bed. I have asked you multiple times for your town read on Jock as well as other things but you are putting on a show right now. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
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