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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 29 2020 21:01 GMT
#835
Starts from here:
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/565699-a-mostly-normal-game-of-mafia?page=30#595
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 29 2020 21:06 GMT
#837
Why would mayor have some pressure they wont otherwise in lylo?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 29 2020 21:08 GMT
#839
Also let's assume FF's bg claim is legit. Who's mafia between TT and Vivax? Or do you think i am mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 29 2020 21:19 GMT
#841
Have you ever scumread TT this game Trfel?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 29 2020 21:24 GMT
#842
On November 27 2020 08:55 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2020 04:24 Tictock wrote:
On November 26 2020 04:05 Trfel wrote:
On November 26 2020 04:03 Hapahauli wrote:
I think lynching into TT/FF is a bad idea based on recent posting. Neither of them really have that survivalist instinct that I'd associate with mafia in this position.

I once again would like Grack lynched.
Yeah, I can get behind that. The main reason I would prefer lynching Fecalfeast to Grackaroni is that if Fecalfeast continues to play in this manner, I'm not sure he will be any easier to read in the future. I have higher hopes for Grackaroni to make his play more clear.

Outside of that though I guess Grackaroni seems to have a higher chance of flipping mafia.

I will submit Grackaroni as the lynch in case I end up being elected.


If you do get elected plz kill FF over Grack.

FF is unlikely to suddenly start playing more, Grack is probably readable after enough time
Does this feel weird to anyone else? Tictock was scumreading Fecalfeast and townreading Grackaroni. On one hand, I could see Tictock trying to word his argument in a way that's persuasive to me, but on the other hand, shouldn't he be restating his reasons to scumread Fecalfeast and townread Grackaroni?

Show nested quote +
On November 26 2020 04:49 Tictock wrote:
Resub FF/Sho?
And this, which Tictock threw in 11 minutes to end of day. If he didn't want Grackaroni to die (by the way, he just said a few posts previously that he was okay with Grackaroni dying), shouldn't he prefer killing Fecalfeast to ShoCkeyy? Given that he actually has reasons to suspect Fecalfeast and ShoCkeyy is just a lurker?

Why did you back off from this one?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 29 2020 21:27 GMT
#845
On November 30 2020 06:24 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2020 06:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Have you ever scumread TT this game Trfel?
I don't think so? I had some questions for him yesterday that I'd still like him to answer. He's been kinda in the null/slightly town area.

I like his play, he was suspicious of Hapahauli yesterday without ever seeming to doubt the blue claim so that seems a bit suspect, knowing that Hapahauli is mafia. Otherwise, pending his answers to my questions, I don't really think he is mafia.

You realise that i dont know if Hapa is mafia so this doesnt mean much to me.
On November 30 2020 06:25 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2020 06:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 27 2020 08:55 Trfel wrote:
On November 26 2020 04:24 Tictock wrote:
On November 26 2020 04:05 Trfel wrote:
On November 26 2020 04:03 Hapahauli wrote:
I think lynching into TT/FF is a bad idea based on recent posting. Neither of them really have that survivalist instinct that I'd associate with mafia in this position.

I once again would like Grack lynched.
Yeah, I can get behind that. The main reason I would prefer lynching Fecalfeast to Grackaroni is that if Fecalfeast continues to play in this manner, I'm not sure he will be any easier to read in the future. I have higher hopes for Grackaroni to make his play more clear.

Outside of that though I guess Grackaroni seems to have a higher chance of flipping mafia.

I will submit Grackaroni as the lynch in case I end up being elected.


If you do get elected plz kill FF over Grack.

FF is unlikely to suddenly start playing more, Grack is probably readable after enough time
Does this feel weird to anyone else? Tictock was scumreading Fecalfeast and townreading Grackaroni. On one hand, I could see Tictock trying to word his argument in a way that's persuasive to me, but on the other hand, shouldn't he be restating his reasons to scumread Fecalfeast and townread Grackaroni?

On November 26 2020 04:49 Tictock wrote:
Resub FF/Sho?
And this, which Tictock threw in 11 minutes to end of day. If he didn't want Grackaroni to die (by the way, he just said a few posts previously that he was okay with Grackaroni dying), shouldn't he prefer killing Fecalfeast to ShoCkeyy? Given that he actually has reasons to suspect Fecalfeast and ShoCkeyy is just a lurker?

Why did you back off from this one?
I never backed off. This wasn't a scumread, this was an "I'm looking into you." He just never answered

Shouldn't a no-answer ring some bells?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 29 2020 21:29 GMT
#846
I can say though that i thought TT is my bodyguard.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 29 2020 21:38 GMT
#850
On November 30 2020 06:32 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2020 06:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 30 2020 06:24 Trfel wrote:
On November 30 2020 06:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Have you ever scumread TT this game Trfel?
I don't think so? I had some questions for him yesterday that I'd still like him to answer. He's been kinda in the null/slightly town area.

I like his play, he was suspicious of Hapahauli yesterday without ever seeming to doubt the blue claim so that seems a bit suspect, knowing that Hapahauli is mafia. Otherwise, pending his answers to my questions, I don't really think he is mafia.

You realise that i dont know if Hapa is mafia so this doesnt mean much to me.
On November 30 2020 06:25 Trfel wrote:
On November 30 2020 06:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 27 2020 08:55 Trfel wrote:
On November 26 2020 04:24 Tictock wrote:
On November 26 2020 04:05 Trfel wrote:
On November 26 2020 04:03 Hapahauli wrote:
I think lynching into TT/FF is a bad idea based on recent posting. Neither of them really have that survivalist instinct that I'd associate with mafia in this position.

I once again would like Grack lynched.
Yeah, I can get behind that. The main reason I would prefer lynching Fecalfeast to Grackaroni is that if Fecalfeast continues to play in this manner, I'm not sure he will be any easier to read in the future. I have higher hopes for Grackaroni to make his play more clear.

Outside of that though I guess Grackaroni seems to have a higher chance of flipping mafia.

I will submit Grackaroni as the lynch in case I end up being elected.


If you do get elected plz kill FF over Grack.

FF is unlikely to suddenly start playing more, Grack is probably readable after enough time
Does this feel weird to anyone else? Tictock was scumreading Fecalfeast and townreading Grackaroni. On one hand, I could see Tictock trying to word his argument in a way that's persuasive to me, but on the other hand, shouldn't he be restating his reasons to scumread Fecalfeast and townread Grackaroni?

On November 26 2020 04:49 Tictock wrote:
Resub FF/Sho?
And this, which Tictock threw in 11 minutes to end of day. If he didn't want Grackaroni to die (by the way, he just said a few posts previously that he was okay with Grackaroni dying), shouldn't he prefer killing Fecalfeast to ShoCkeyy? Given that he actually has reasons to suspect Fecalfeast and ShoCkeyy is just a lurker?

Why did you back off from this one?
I never backed off. This wasn't a scumread, this was an "I'm looking into you." He just never answered

Shouldn't a no-answer ring some bells?
Yeah, I get that. You just asked me what my read was though :/ Which at this point does involve associations.

I assumed we would be lynching between me and Hapahauli today, but I suppose it doesn't have to be that way. In fact, actually, it makes sense to not do it that way. So we probably should lynch between Tictock and Vivax today.

Actually i asked what your read on TT was, not what it was on Hapa.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 29 2020 21:51 GMT
#851
Why do you think TT is not mafia with Hapa?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 29 2020 21:54 GMT
#853
I need to head to bed soon, but:
You are at Hapa being mafia, i dont know why you read TT as town, and Hapa your top scum read made a big case on Vivax D2. So Hapa + Vivax why?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 29 2020 21:56 GMT
#854
On November 30 2020 06:51 Trfel wrote:

I think right now I'd prefer lynching Tictock due to the Hapahauli and Vivax read changes. But other than that, Tictock feels like town to me. It's close.

Okay i missed this. Disregard my last question.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 29 2020 22:03 GMT
#856
On November 30 2020 06:32 Trfel wrote:

I assumed we would be lynching between me and Hapahauli today, but I suppose it doesn't have to be that way. In fact, actually, it makes sense to not do it that way. So we probably should lynch between Tictock and Vivax today.

If you know -- as you seem to know, that hapa is at least almost 100% mafia, why do you prefer this?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 29 2020 22:04 GMT
#857
lol
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 29 2020 22:04 GMT
#858
On November 30 2020 07:02 Trfel wrote:
Once Hapahauli claims his role I can claim mine and then it'll be easier to discuss together.

yes, as quickly as possible please.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 29 2020 23:19 GMT
#864
On November 30 2020 08:14 Trfel wrote:
Regardless of Hapahauli's alignment, mafia knows there is a jailkeeper because Hapahauli claimed roleblock (town roleblocker is not a possible role). If Hapahauli is town, assuming mafia didn't roleblock him (very likely), then his roleblock claim indicates to them that there is a jailkeeper who did. If Hapahauli is mafia, which is my current belief, then he got roleblocked and thus knows there is a town jailkeeper.

why does mafia always know there is a jailkeeper?can you explain it to me as i am dumb and 5y?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 29 2020 23:21 GMT
#865
On November 30 2020 07:59 Hapahauli wrote:
Ooooh interesting.

I am a Mad Hatter. My intent in playing as I did (not running for mayor) was to have a chance of using my role. I targeted Vivax N1 (roleblocked) on the basis of my scumread. I targeted Shockeyy N2, in that if I was killed, I would rather leave town in a position where they had to worry about one less lurker. Plus, if I take someone down with me (even if my read is incorrect), it's still LYLO as opposed to MYLO.

Explain this
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 29 2020 23:23 GMT
#866
On November 30 2020 07:59 Hapahauli wrote:
Ooooh interesting.

I am a Mad Hatter. My intent in playing as I did (not running for mayor) was to have a chance of using my role. I targeted Vivax N1 (roleblocked) on the basis of my scumread. I targeted Shockeyy N2, in that if I was killed, I would rather leave town in a position where they had to worry about one less lurker. Plus, if I take someone down with me (even if my read is incorrect), it's still LYLO as opposed to MYLO.

I do not think Trfel's claim necessarily makes him mafia. I'm also not sure why someone else being roleblocked tonight would confirm "one of me or Trfel" as mafia.

More thoughts when I'm home tonight.

On November 24 2020 09:38 Hapahauli wrote:
oh baby yeah give it to me more

and baby you will have it this time!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 29 2020 23:24 GMT
#867
Why would you be killed Hapa, on N2?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 29 2020 23:29 GMT
#870
nonono hapa.... you target shockeyy so N3 you can get rid of alurker,. but the game is already over by then.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 29 2020 23:30 GMT
#871
sorry you are mafia.
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