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Like where the fuck in my filter to I read TT as town for "reading Rayn's filter?!"
On December 01 2020 21:27 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2020 14:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 01 2020 14:23 Trfel wrote:On December 01 2020 13:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 01 2020 13:19 Hapahauli wrote: Sigh. Let me start by saying this: Hapa is saying we should definitely lynch into TT/Vivax because if we hit mafia there the game is practically solved. This is obviously smart from mafia perspective because he then isnt lynched and town can still make the wrong decision with TT/Vivax. From town perspective though; Lets say we lynch Vivax and he flips mafia. Trfel jails Hapa (or whoever) and the NK goes through. How is the game solved? Did Hapahauli ever say this? I thought he was advocating lynching Tictock or Vivax because he thinks they are mafia and he is town (presumably) so that would be a superior lynch? He doesnt outright say it but implies it over and over again by trfel's jail and in his discussion with TT. Like he says we lynch vivax and trfel jails him and if he is mafia it's gg. But it doesnt even come to it if vivax is NOT mafia. Again, flawed reasoning to make tou look elsewhere other than him. "Hapa didn't say it, but I'm just going to read into what he said until I think he is scummy".
Oh there... probably there.
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Meant to make an angry face. Not a sad face. I'm like 5% sad and 95% raging, so it is emotionally inaccurate.
Thx.
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On December 01 2020 22:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2020 21:27 Hapahauli wrote:On December 01 2020 14:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 01 2020 14:23 Trfel wrote:On December 01 2020 13:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 01 2020 13:19 Hapahauli wrote: Sigh. Let me start by saying this: Hapa is saying we should definitely lynch into TT/Vivax because if we hit mafia there the game is practically solved. This is obviously smart from mafia perspective because he then isnt lynched and town can still make the wrong decision with TT/Vivax. From town perspective though; Lets say we lynch Vivax and he flips mafia. Trfel jails Hapa (or whoever) and the NK goes through. How is the game solved? Did Hapahauli ever say this? I thought he was advocating lynching Tictock or Vivax because he thinks they are mafia and he is town (presumably) so that would be a superior lynch? He doesnt outright say it but implies it over and over again by trfel's jail and in his discussion with TT. Like he says we lynch vivax and trfel jails him and if he is mafia it's gg. But it doesnt even come to it if vivax is NOT mafia. Again, flawed reasoning to make tou look elsewhere other than him. "Hapa didn't say it, but I'm just going to read into what he said until I think he is scummy". I think i provided explanation to this one. Yes you were talking to TT and from TT's pov the game is solved then yeah, but after that you say "now we just need Trfel on board" and that's where you in my opinion imply that. Sure you're gonna say it's something else as either alignment but that's still what i think. This post here: Show nested quote +On December 01 2020 08:56 Hapahauli wrote:@ TTOn December 01 2020 08:35 Hapahauli wrote: Let's make a deal TT.
I think Vivax is mafia. You think Vivax is mafia.
Let's kill Vivax. After that, since we both think that Trfel is the JK, he can simply block me tomorrow and "confirm me as mafia". Sounds good?
Game solved and over from your perspective. No need to argue or do anything. The offer stands. If I were to get Trfel to endorse this plan, will you vote Vivax?Yes or no.
I am saying that the game is solved from TT's perspective you numbskull. It's not even that hard to infer.
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On December 01 2020 22:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: Hapa you are right about the Jock read and the TT thing in my case. I misread your TT post on phone and i took what FF said at face value and didnt look at it properly back then because i thought FF was mafia at the time and the whole "people who voted for jock" post was weak in my opinion.
Now you said earlier that you cannot be mafia with anyone in the game. Why can't you be mafia with: - me - vivax - TT ?
How good of an actor do you think I am as mafia? How do you perceive my scum play to be?
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On December 01 2020 22:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2020 22:20 Hapahauli wrote:On December 01 2020 22:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: Hapa you are right about the Jock read and the TT thing in my case. I misread your TT post on phone and i took what FF said at face value and didnt look at it properly back then because i thought FF was mafia at the time and the whole "people who voted for jock" post was weak in my opinion.
Now you said earlier that you cannot be mafia with anyone in the game. Why can't you be mafia with: - me - vivax - TT ? How good of an actor do you think I am as mafia? How do you perceive my scum play to be? What does that matter? In the mafiascum game i wasn't able to catch you because i let go of your scummy things when you bussed and made some good psots i would expect town!hapa to make. That's the latest news on that front for me. I havent seen you as mafia in ages before that. Now can you answer my question?
I think we have vastly different interpretations of what I am capable of as scum.
In that "mafiascum game", how do you perceive I played? I recall making some long-form posts and largely lurking until I got lynched. Is that what you think I'm doing this game?
My sense of your analysis of my play is that "if Hapa does something that I don't expect him to do, he is mafia". The problem is that I do stupid shit all the time. I put barely any care into my posts as town, since I'm often firing off responses on sight. So obviously I have "inconsistencies" or stupid shit in my filter all the time as town.
And you damn well know this, because I've rolled town every game I've played this year, and you've tunneled me for extended periods of time in every damn game I've played this year despite my alignment.
My perception of my scum play is that I would not be capable of acting "rage" or "tilt" in the way that I am interacting with you, TT, or Vivax. But that is obviously a self-serving argument, which makes your whole question incredibly stupid for making me make a self-serving argument.
It is plainly obvious that I have been try-harding the fuck out of this game since the holiday weekend has ended. If you want to ignore that context, and if you want to believe that scum-Hapa is capable of that, then you are scum or you don't know me or anything about my playstyle at all.
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Like one of your "suspicions" this game is that I wouldn't botch a blue claim. Do you realize that I literally just did that in Aperture last game, in which I botched a power role claim by thinking I rolled a 3p?
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The last few games that we have played should tell you that you know jack shit about how I play as mafia or town.
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On December 01 2020 22:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2020 22:36 Hapahauli wrote: Like one of your "suspicions" this game is that I wouldn't botch a blue claim. Do you realize that I literally just did that in Aperture last game, in which I botched a power role claim by thinking I rolled a 3p? Where did i say this?
That is the implication of this:
Doesnt want to be mayor just because he [i]doent want responsibility and hecause he cannot then use his role, while trying to convince me into lynching grack for "i have historically very good accuracy of hitting mafia D1"? Why doesnt he think he will get shot N1 anyways?
You are basically saying that my blue claim doesn't make sense in the context of my play, when it is very easily explained by me posting the first thing that comes to my mind when I play as town.
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On December 01 2020 22:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2020 22:35 Hapahauli wrote: If you want to ignore that context, and if you want to believe that scum-Hapa is capable of that, then you are scum or you don't know me or anything about my playstyle at all. Show nested quote +On December 01 2020 22:37 Hapahauli wrote: The last few games that we have played should tell you that you know jack shit about how I play as mafia or town. ???
How many times did you tunnel me in our last 3 games? What was my alignment in our last 3 games?
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On December 01 2020 22:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:Why can't you just answer me why you cannot be mafia with me, TT or Vivax? You explicitly said there is no player you are mafia with so can we hear why is that? Show nested quote +On December 01 2020 21:16 Hapahauli wrote: What people should understand if they read my filter in context is that it is really unlikely for me to have any scum-buddy this game. Therefore, how the fuck am I mafia?
I answered you.
We are going to play this the opposite way, in which you tell me how I can be mafia with TT or Vivax, and then I tell you how stupid you are.
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On December 01 2020 22:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2020 22:45 Hapahauli wrote:On December 01 2020 22:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 01 2020 22:36 Hapahauli wrote: Like one of your "suspicions" this game is that I wouldn't botch a blue claim. Do you realize that I literally just did that in Aperture last game, in which I botched a power role claim by thinking I rolled a 3p? Where did i say this? That is the implication of this: Doesnt want to be mayor just because he [i]doent want responsibility and hecause he cannot then use his role, while trying to convince me into lynching grack for "i have historically very good accuracy of hitting mafia D1"? Why doesnt he think he will get shot N1 anyways? You are basically saying that my blue claim doesn't make sense in the context of my play, when it is very easily explained by me posting the first thing that comes to my mind when I play as town. No i am saying that regardless of your affiliation you didnt read that not all roleblocks are notified. I think you'd want to be mayor regardless of your role because you think youre really good and if you hit mafia you'll be killed anyways on N1.
And that's the problem and why you know jack shit about how I play and my playstyle.
I give half of a shit about power roles and mechanics and do whatever comes first to my mind regarding them.
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Apparently I need to step away from the thread.
Do what you will Rayn. Apparently I cannot interact with you without going on full tilt, so I will not interact with you any further.
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Oh look, lazy-Vivax has returned.
Well I'd rather talk to mafia than Rayn I suppose.
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How cute. He's protecting his ego.
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I'm glad I brought you some joy Vivax
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On December 02 2020 01:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:dont buddy me when you just did unbuddy me
Hey Rayn, let’s argue for 20 more posts and we’ll clinch the game.
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