[M][T] Aperture Mafia 4, Episode 2

On October 26 2020 11:12 GlowingBear wrote:


My playstyle doesnt match the playerlist's. It would be a bit overwhelming for me lol

On October 27 2020 09:31 GreYMisT wrote:


I mean don't think I don't wish for that. but as long as potential hosts are ok with it I will host another game following this one - it will probably be a pick your power.

On October 27 2020 11:43 Alakaslam wrote:


What

What is that? How do you get it? My daughter will be born jn a couple weeks

On October 28 2020 02:06 GlowingBear wrote:


I'd love to visit Denmark and possibly spend a year there. I've read only good things about your country. The only downside for me is the cold weather because the coldest part of the year where I live would be around 18 Celsius lol

On October 29 2020 01:37 iamperfection wrote:

Wtf why bother posting

On October 29 2020 01:40 iamperfection wrote:

So?

On October 29 2020 01:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:

i think you should stop the memes if you are town

On October 29 2020 01:44 iamperfection wrote:

No because It looks like your just posting for the sake of posting which is pretty mafia oriented

On October 29 2020 01:47 iamperfection wrote:

Is that your way of saying your bad?

You have commented on nothing. Posted that you are busy but then stick around when a tiny bit of heat gets put on you???? Seems like mafia thinking to me

On October 29 2020 01:57 iamperfection wrote:

How are you trying to get a conversation you haven't talked about anything but yourself

On October 29 2020 01:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:

and here?

On October 29 2020 02:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:

in mafia games i havent seen him as one tbh.... (no offense shockeyy)

On October 29 2020 02:18 iamperfection wrote:

It seems just silly to think and somewhat disrespectful to acro and Rayns potential mafia play.

On October 29 2020 02:32 iamperfection wrote:

You agree that everyone posting is town?

On October 29 2020 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i cannot "prove it" i agree. i just dont think it fits.
can you show how analytical you are shockeyy and provide some reads?

On October 29 2020 02:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:

But you said something else?

On October 29 2020 02:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:

i am asking him of any reads at all, because there is 10 pages of content, and i dont personally feel like shockeyy is "analytical" as he claims.

On October 29 2020 02:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:

So you dont want to make any decisions N0? Or what are you saying?

On October 29 2020 02:40 iamperfection wrote:
I'm very confused

On October 29 2020 03:26 Alakaslam wrote:

Why is ShoCkeyy both busier than me and capable of more activity?

And hapa duh dude lol.

On October 29 2020 03:44 Hapahauli wrote:
Rayn and Iamp get A's.

Acro gets a B.

Grack gets a C+.

Shockey gets an Incomplete.

On October 29 2020 03:49 Hapahauli wrote:
Yeah yeah whatever. I know you’re town and that’s all I care about for now. Have fun screaming at a wall.

On October 29 2020 04:05 Alakaslam wrote:

ShoCkeyy is a likely candidate and Hapa is not town by his own claim

On October 29 2020 04:24 Hapahauli wrote:
The fuck are you smoking?

On October 29 2020 04:25 iamperfection wrote:
The fuck you talking about timing of posts?

On October 29 2020 04:53 yamato77 wrote:

Why do you think you're a good candidate?

On October 29 2020 05:07 iamperfection wrote:
Btw if it's revealed that there is more than one mafia team like in the first game of this kill hapa.

On October 29 2020 04:39 ShoCkeyy wrote:
So I have one question about the game:

"Other factions may be able to use the database in their own ways."

So is there more than just town/mafia? :D

Btw I commit to checking out the database. I personally think I'm the best person to check it out.

On October 29 2020 05:12 Hapahauli wrote:
I don't understand you both.

You spend all this time talking about the importance of making scumreads, and then you talk about incredibly speculative setup stuff. Why?

On October 29 2020 05:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ah yes, shockeyy too is mafia most likely

On October 29 2020 06:24 ShoCkeyy wrote:


Where did he even post this? I don't find it in his filter.

On October 29 2020 06:26 yamato77 wrote:
@Shockey

On October 28 2020 23:06 Acrofales wrote:

Ideally I'd send 3 mafia! (1) they can't use night actions, (2) they are almost certain to survive the night, and (3) even if they lie about their findings, catching a scummer in a lie like that is great info.

So please, if you're mafia, volunteer to go to the TL Mafia Database tonight. It'll be a huge help!

(obviously, volunteering for this duty is *not* a scumtell).

On October 29 2020 06:42 yamato77 wrote:
Shockey do you know why Rayn thinks you are town?

On October 29 2020 08:26 Alakaslam wrote:

I believe your claim. You’re not town and it’s complicated but you may as well be town.

ShoCkeyy I scumread.

On October 29 2020 13:40 yamato77 wrote:
If I had a gun I would shoot Shockey. His posts read as smug and flippant and that's a general scumtell in my book. I no longer really want to send him because he refuses to be more open about much of anything.

On October 29 2020 14:44 yamato77 wrote:
Anyway as a note I must sleep now and I won't be back for quite a while. I can't post or read the thread during work so it will be something like 15 hours before I will be back. I hope if anyone has any Day 0 actions they use them well. Don't kill controversial people just because things got heated.

If somehow I die, an eventuality I do not discount, my only real scumread is Shockey. There's really not much to go on so far and about a third of the thread is one player's posts SO there's a lot of noise. The only person I'm confident enough to townread at the moment is iamp. I was suspicious of his seeming parroting of rayn early on but his break with rayn's line and his general demeanor since rayn left the thread gives me the impression he's honestly trying to solve the game.

I think Hapa is generally pro-town as well and I don't think it's a good idea to kill him when he can win with us. I doubt that Hapa's plan as mafia was to fakeclaim 3P on D0. That said I would like to know HOW he can win with town. I assume that means he can win if he's alive when town wins, and if that's the case then we should probably protect him. If he continues to be a voice of reason in the thread and gives out honest reads there's no reason mafia wouldn't target him and any town ability to save him could be truly useful, essentially allowing us an edge in numbers.

On October 29 2020 22:36 iamperfection wrote:
Rayn you can replay a cycle and you choose night 0 ????????????????????????????

On October 30 2020 01:42 iamperfection wrote:

I don't know that. How do you know that.

On October 30 2020 03:38 Hapahauli wrote:
I know why I would want Onegu shot. Why do you?

On October 30 2020 03:39 ShoCkeyy wrote:


Cause Onegu is known to afk as mafia? :D

On October 30 2020 04:35 Onegu wrote:
LOL, People saying I am more likely to not do shit as scum is funny. Day 1 I never do shit almost regardless of alignment. And this isnt even day 1 trolololol.

On October 30 2020 04:35 iamperfection wrote:

thats not what it says

If no players visit the Database, it will continue to destabilize, causing the Corruption Counter to increase by 1. In addition, if too many people (half a majority of players alive - for example, 4 players with 12 players alive) visit the database, the corruption counter will increase by 1. At corruption levels of 1, 3, and 5, a special effect will occur that will modify the game in some way.

if more than half then the majority goes it increases more then 1 it says nothing about it being additive

On October 30 2020 04:42 Dirkzor wrote:


well its stupid. And you should think so too. You voted for a guy who lied and turned out to be town. There is nothing wrong with voting on a guy who lies.

Regarding you alignment (just skimmed your filter):Im leaning scum. You list of read are so low effort its laughable. YOu dont even react to my claim even tho you mention it. Your posts dont make sense. You said you are the best person to go check the database but then later it "whatever".

On October 30 2020 04:59 iamperfection wrote:
your ability doesn't sound that good to me dirkzor.

On October 30 2020 05:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why are you the best person to check the database shockeyy?

On October 30 2020 05:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Does it heavily help the town in case you go?

On October 30 2020 05:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Mafias actions this night?

On October 30 2020 05:37 Onegu wrote:
Is it bad if I say I have no idea what anyone is talking about visiting and corruption?

On October 29 2020 09:10 Alakaslam wrote:

Why do you feel the need to mention inactivity if you can multitask like you showed me?

That’s it so far and I think it’s enough frankly. Day will tell, there’s also total lurkers like Ticktock and Koshi.

Either the team is you and those three or Onegu, or I am wrong about someone. 3P have an easy time convincing me though, I admit 1. Being pretty bad at this and 2. Hypocrisy. I am a full blown hypocrite.

On October 30 2020 11:05 Onegu wrote:



Nah you must have forgot I am VT

On October 29 2020 08:25 Onegu wrote:
Then I will no longer be vt because I got something. See how this works?

On October 30 2020 07:40 yamato77 wrote:
Trusting Dirk is difficult for me. The aware miller-ish aspect adds a layer of strangeness to what is already quite a convoluted role. If anything his post seems to be focused mainly on keeping himself alive for a vague promise of maybe helping town in 5 cycles, which is a long time. This sounds more like an actual survivor claim than any "actually town but may appear 3p" like he said. I don't think he's telling the 100% truth. Then again, the precedent in this very game is to hide one's own power level, so to speak, so I don't exactly think that means he's mafia. Another great candidate to check with the Library.

I don't think we should be asking about what corruption will do when we have so many claims to evaluate. Perhaps if it increases to 2 we could see what would happen at 3 but right now at 1 there's not much point if I read the OP correctly.

Rayn's return to the thread has been less than inspiring. Among a litany of list posts his seems mostly aimed at staying stuck in his reads he made hours ago and dismissing anything that has happened since. That said he is no stranger to confirmation bias so it's not particularly alignment indicative for him to not have developed further.

What's hilarious about this is that I actually find myself agreeing with him about the corruption level now that I think about it. I might choose to go myself and gain some information. I don't think I'm going to take any action involving my role as it exists now. That may change later on, because I don't know much about my role!

I didn't realize a different mini actually had multiple scum teams, but the OP reads as if there's only one (especially given the stated 1 KP) so until I have reason to believe otherwise I am going to play under that assumption. I don't see much merit in speculating about the two scum team theory.

I already stated why I take Hapa's claim at face value and dismissing that read because it looks like buddying is absurd. If I am indeed mafia, why would I buddy with a competing alignment? If we were both mafia, why would we need to "buddy up"? Rayn's reasoning here is obviously flawed, and as he himself admitted he has too many scumreads for them all to co-exist.

Shockey's list post was particularly awful. It is early sure but that was a series of thin one-liners that displayed a lack of critical thought about the game, especially as it pertains to me. I have not refused to cooperate with anyone. I have stated how I wanted to play the game and I have done so. Rayn's meta-defense of my scumread of Shockey for his posting leaves me less than enthused if this is what I should expect from a player who thinks they are analytical. Rayn's seeming certainty of Shockey's alignment is unsettling, to say the least. I have to assume knowledge outside of the thread, and the withholding of that knowledge is inherently anti-town in my opinion.

There are a lot of players in this game I don't have much of an opinion on because of their sparse, conversational and interaction based posting. Grack seems to be solely reactive. Onegu, likewise, seems to be mostly reactive outside of his claim. Ticktock's posting appeared rather bland and inoffensive, but was more substantive in comparison.

One person I absolutely do not care for is Acro. He is hyper-focused on Hapa's claim to a fault. His comments on anything outside of that since the early parts of the game are sparse. He wrote a whole bunch of nothing about my spat with Rayn and has followed up on literally nothing except his evaluation of a single 3p claim. This fixation is something that appears genuine, but could easily come from mafia. I do not trust him.

On October 30 2020 11:34 Onegu wrote:



Meh I can kinda understand where you are coming from with the question, but it is really reachy to go from you are town to you get a item and become 3p...

I will be more clear. I am VT currently. When I get my item I become blue. Not black, not red, not italics.

On October 30 2020 11:39 Grackaroni wrote:
There didn't seem to be much of a consensus.

On October 30 2020 11:52 Grackaroni wrote:

What do you mean?

On October 30 2020 12:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So you going to the database or not shockeyy?

On October 30 2020 13:46 Tictock wrote:
Ok, so I don't think I have the focus for this game right now. I couldn't sleep last night and tried finish catching up with the game and was freaking out for a bit because I was convinced that rayn had ended the phase 6 hours early. That said I did finish reading and here is where I am at.

It seems like the only really relevant thing right now is night actions and database stuff and the sense I get from the game is that everybody is just doing their own thing.

My understanding that the corruption counter can only go up by 1 per night so I don't really see much issue with many people using the option to check the database as we would go to 2, but 3 is the next threshold for whatever so maybe that's fine.

All I know is that corruption doesn't seem to be relevant to me (nothing seems to have changed with the counter going to 1) and I'm starting to worry about what it might mean for others to get the counter up. I think I still would like to check the corruption but am less sure that's the best thing, especially when rayn is now randomly gung-ho about doing this himself.+ Show Spoiler +

This leads me to Dirk's role. I really dislike 2 things about his claim, first and formost for me is that his ability pushed us to the next corruption level and potentially changed things. Second is that he says he is a named town yet part of his ability makes him return as 3rd party now.

I was already thinking corruption is related to a 3rd party mechanic due to the way the rules talk about the database.


This just seems to back that up.

I also noted that Dirk's thinking about how many people to send and attitude about corruption increasing was pretty inconsistent, though I don't feel like filter diving to back that up atm. So I have this sense that he is either playing a bit dumb about the mechanic or is putting out seeds of chaos about it.

On October 30 2020 14:29 Tictock wrote:


I think so, but it is moreso that I'm having problems understanding his train of thinking regarding how many to send.

Like didn't he talk about sending everybody at one point? Which to me kinda makes sense, kus it would only add one corruption and possible give a bunch of info.

Then later say "only sending 1" is the best way to get info? Which just makes no sense to me, besides being able to confirm that yes they did go... but why wouldn't scum or whoever just go anyways to be like "see I did as told"

Honestly though, I just dont think I get the whole mechanic. Which is why I was wanting to avoid corruption and spend actions checking what it did for now. So my big issue is that we got pushed forward into further unknown territory by dirk's actions.

On October 30 2020 15:05 yamato77 wrote:
Shockey if you're town you should at least explain something about your role at this point.

On October 30 2020 15:14 yamato77 wrote:

Why would you think your night action is worse than visiting the database if your claim is true?

On October 30 2020 15:28 Onegu wrote:
Hey question. I know I'm a idiot but with the corruption at 1 right now and it only having shit happen at 1,3,5 don't we want as many people as possible going tonight? To get the most clues?

On October 30 2020 20:28 Acrofales wrote:
Sweet! No NK and I wasn't roleblocked. Something weird happened. Shockeyy isn't supposed to be here, I don't think. It isn't entirely clear how the split works, but I thought it was by player list, and we should have Iamp here, not Shockeyy... Bus driver or something?

Oh, and I got a PM that I'm a planeteer. Lets explore space together.

@Koshi: you can't answer me, but pretty sure your ability can't have been this. This is about as close to an innocent child role I'm gonna get in a greymist game. It's absurd how good this ability is. We should even be able to use it afterward as a list cop ability, as I assume each side has at least 1 mafia or it'd screw over town. Too bad I got stuck with all the scummers over here.

@dirkzor: still think you're town, and I think hapa is 3p. So has to be onegu, grack or shockeyyy, who got put here through some kind of voodoo.

I smelt town on grack early on, so we lynch onegu or shockeyy. Will filter them this afternoon.

On October 31 2020 03:03 Acrofales wrote:

"Bait"? Lol. Kinda a classic goto for scum when they got caught with their pants down.

On October 31 2020 03:06 Acrofales wrote:

Wrong animal, you should be posting baby seals, not cats. But I did my job, caught scum. Will let other people chip in.

On October 31 2020 03:18 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Shockeyy

1) Did you visit the TL Mafia Database last night?
2) Please describe the "trap" that you set for Acro.

@ Acro

1) Your posting suggests that your town read on Grack is strong enough that you wouldn't consider lynching him today. This appears to be based on the "speed" by which he volunteered to go to the Database. Is this true?
2) Today, you state that Onegu is a "blank void". Yesterday, you stated to the effect that I should shoot him because he's a scummy void. What changed your mind?

On October 31 2020 03:51 Hapahauli wrote:
Lynching me would be part of town's win-con, so you'd have to do it, and today is as good of a day as any other.

On October 31 2020 03:55 Dirkzor wrote:


Wait what? Your role protects and redirect. Makes no sense really. If someone shoots the one you protected they would shoot you. You are claiming you can protect self and target and also bus drive? Seems super convoluted.

Anyway i think we lynch acro or shockey now.

Im leaning acro for now but im at dinner with friend and only glanced quickly. Well check again to tomrrow.

On October 31 2020 04:05 Acrofales wrote:

Well, there was no KP. So either you were legit roleblocked, or you are not an SK. So yeah, not a priority.

On October 31 2020 03:41 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Ok so I protected iamperfection, and him and I did switch spots, my role also redirects actions. However, the no kill can either be mafia held their shot (idk if they can do this, I'll re-read the op), or they shot me and I didn't die cause I can't die due to the power of insurance.

On October 31 2020 11:08 Grackaroni wrote:
My thought that mafia didn't have KP and that corruption would increase it was from after seeing the no-kill and a double lynch.

On October 31 2020 15:11 Dirkzor wrote:
Shockey and acrofales:
Ive read your interaction where you call eachother scum. To be honest i dont understand either of your perspectives.

Can you guys explain it like im 5?

It also seems like you have both backed off. Why?

On November 02 2020 02:48 Alakaslam wrote:

Comes up half the time I try to send a PM. It’s in bold red at the top of the site when a PM gets cocked up.

Do none of you use your phones to play this? I do so exclusively. I’ve seen people clearly think I am online when I am not because they are using activity loggers.



My phone is online just not me

On November 02 2020 03:59 Dirkzor wrote:
I don't know what to believe about slam.

Some things really don't add up:

He couldn't remember who he voted for in the first place (TT). So he just voted "whatever" (Koshi) hours later because of error and message field empty.
But he can remember that the 2nd time around he voted for koshi. (this also being hours later)

He doesnt know what PM's went through and which one didnt. Maybe both maybe none.

This all means he didnt actually just checked his "sent" messages to see what went through, but he still remembered his 2nd vote (Koshi) off the top of his head.

I don't buy it.

Also trying to throw shit around on Shockey/Iamp and then later Onegu/TT/Koshi.

On November 02 2020 23:57 Koshi wrote:
Like wtf could I have done that is mafialike or pushes mafia agenda. Pretty sure nothing. Not even by accident.

Just this weird idea I should care more as town. lol.

On November 03 2020 00:05 Koshi wrote:

Oh and to build on to that.

You had Acro 100% pegged and trapped as mafia.
Why did you vote Dirk?

On November 03 2020 00:12 Dirkzor wrote:


It was a hidden vote. How would you know if acro was voted or not?

On November 03 2020 02:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I think this indicates that Acrofales already knows or assumes his thread is going to be Grack vs Onegu.

On November 03 2020 02:55 iamperfection wrote:

i really am speechless

On November 03 2020 02:57 Dirkzor wrote:
but we arent voting on the 4 for lynch. it for mayor who decides lynch. So 4 town for mayor seems good? Noone have claimed changing it to mayorlynch tho

On November 03 2020 03:18 Koshi wrote:

No.

On November 03 2020 04:01 Hapahauli wrote:
Did we ever resolve from Night 0 why the corruption counter went up?

On November 03 2020 05:37 Hapahauli wrote:
That all aside, and mathematically speaking, it is optimal to lynch into "Thread B", since (assuming a standard 3p mafia team) there are 1-2 mafia present in that thread, vs. 0-1 in "Thread A". Therefore, we should look to killing Slam/Koshi before addressing Grack.

However, I do not believe Grack is clear.

On November 02 2020 21:47 Hapahauli wrote:
I shot TT.

On November 02 2020 18:54 Tictock wrote:
I checked Dirk, and it seems corruption is good for scum as the next level boosts their KP.

Assuming somebody is already assigned to checking tonight so I will not visit again.

On November 02 2020 22:51 Grackaroni wrote:
It seems like Acro was trying to vote off ShoCkkey so I doubt he's mafia. I also didn't get the impression that the reaction over the bus driving between the two of them was pre-planned.

Dirkzor/Hapa aren't teammates with Acro, but I've never thought either of them would be red to begin with.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if Onegu hammered his teammate. Otherwise there's 2 in the other thread.

On November 03 2020 06:26 iamperfection wrote:

so according to you. You haven't visited anyone besides ticktcok because you were roleblocked correct?
Just for the record.

On November 03 2020 11:03 iamperfection wrote:
rayn you haven't voted for yourself ?

On November 03 2020 13:52 Alakaslam wrote:

Before lylo is all I am saying. I’m not a fan of killing you now.

But your role seems really powerful as described? Would expect scum to shoot you soon frankly?

On November 04 2020 04:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:



Do you disagree?

On November 04 2020 05:02 Dirkzor wrote:

Shockey, you want to move back as a scumread.

You think both me, Yamato and Hapa is scum? How in any world does that fit in anything?

On November 04 2020 05:04 Hapahauli wrote:
Among the mayoral candidates, do you have any town reads?

Or do you have any town reads in general for that matter?

On November 04 2020 05:35 Koshi wrote:

We are up 1-0 and have an immortal doctor. And dirkzor is going to rain nukes on mafia in 2 days now?

Ez game ez life

On November 04 2020 06:06 iamperfection wrote:

he gave insights you just hate them.

On November 04 2020 06:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
shockeyy help pls

On November 04 2020 06:13 iamperfection wrote:

wouldnt that make you think he is more likely to be scum!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

On November 04 2020 05:52 iamperfection wrote:
you need to just embrace the chaos my friend.

On November 04 2020 06:49 Koshi wrote:
Dirk is not mafia.

On November 04 2020 06:51 iamperfection wrote:

his posts were to good. if i had to guess he actually isnt though looking through his filter real quick.

On November 04 2020 07:06 iamperfection wrote:

i dont know ask him

On November 04 2020 07:06 iamperfection wrote:

i dont know ask him

On November 03 2020 06:17 Hapahauli wrote:


I was going to shoot TT or Onegu that night. What made me decide on TT was the following:
1) Acro goading me into trying to shoot Onegu didn't sit right with me.
2) Onegu's behavior had been, pretty attention seeking in the early game. Yes he was lurking, but he was not contributing and getting in people's faces about it.
3) I wanted to essentially "un-do" the no-lynch in Thread B so we would have some information to work with from the votes.

So I submitted my night action and was asleep while TT did his posting last night. I woke up and he was dead.

In retrospect, I regret not waiting until N2 to take the shot, since it was rash to do so when I didn't yet know Acro's alignment.

On November 02 2020 07:39 iamperfection wrote:
in addition to the above post


Being dumb is now policy lynched any BS about i didnt read the thread i didnt send my vote i changed my vote without telling anyone will die.

On November 02 2020 21:59 Hapahauli wrote:


My gun has nothing to do with Onegu... it’s not really a “gun”. It’s more like a zergling all-in.

I presume I was RB’d by mafia N0, so that would indicate some level of fear (see Acro’s fixation on directing my KP).

On November 03 2020 00:24 Hapahauli wrote:
OP says that roleblocks are notified.

On October 30 2020 21:16 Hapahauli wrote:
I was roleblocked.

Acro, does your ability allow you to control who goes into what thread?

On November 04 2020 07:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
why cannot there be 2 mafia teams of 2 ppl?

On November 04 2020 07:35 iamperfection wrote:
I presume I was RB’d by mafia N0 means hes presuming that mafia did it not that hes presuming he was role blocked at all

On November 04 2020 07:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:

it's shockeyy

On November 04 2020 07:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:

explain?

On November 04 2020 07:38 iamperfection wrote:

THEN HE WAS ROLEBLOCKED BY MAFIA

On November 04 2020 07:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:

why does that throw the theory out of the window?

On November 04 2020 07:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:

i stand by this. good night for real now

On November 04 2020 08:07 Koshi wrote:

How did Hapa killing TTTTT further mafia agenda?

On November 04 2020 07:47 ShoCkeyy wrote:


This can be explained if TT instead got rb n0. Looking at the post history, it's quite possible TT didn't even read Hapa's rb claim. Day1 post was at 700, TT enters thread past 1000. That's far fetched, but that's the closest I've gotten to explaining it.

On November 04 2020 08:19 Koshi wrote:

stop drinking the rayn koolaid

On November 04 2020 08:21 Hapahauli wrote:
Can someone tell me if anything of value was accomplished in the last 20 pages of filter?

On November 04 2020 08:54 Onegu wrote:


Because would be really dumb for scum to claim it. I flip town time traveler it would focus attn on him. Scum wouldn't want to do this...

My problem with rayn is and I say this in the best possible way even though he is normally a asshole he is never obtuse and he is this game and it's bothering the crap out of me.

On November 04 2020 11:00 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm probably not going to read this because I'm frantically f5ing a bunch of different election things.

Anything important I should know?

On November 04 2020 15:34 Alakaslam wrote:
Ok may as well hash it out.

I can undo ShoCkeyy’s role. Fortunately I targetted Hapa n0. No one tried to redirect anything from him, or I am the reason he was RB despite whoever else can redirect things.

Once I knew what ShoCkeyy was doing I did not use my power.

Let me read it again and explain what it does. It gets better with corruption but I feel like it is a swing-balance-damage-control role.

On November 04 2020 15:37 Alakaslam wrote:
Each night I can “sap power” from another player. Any attempts to redirect actions targeting that player will fail as 1.1 volts is only enough power for sarcasm core functions.

But at 3 and 5 corruption, I can sap more power from the database and gain further abilities.

On November 05 2020 01:59 Grackaroni wrote:

I should have phrased that as a question for ShoCkkey

On November 05 2020 22:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:

You were not roleblocked?

On November 05 2020 22:57 iamperfection wrote:

just claim clearly please.

lay out every part

On November 05 2020 22:57 Grackaroni wrote:

You bus drove yourself with Iamp on that night.

On November 05 2020 22:59 iamperfection wrote:

so the check is on you then you pepeg

On November 05 2020 23:09 Grackaroni wrote:

It sounds like ShoCkkey's role inverses actions (makes them do the opposite). So a heal turns into a kill.

On November 05 2020 23:28 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Shockeyy

Just to confirm how your role works - any action done to me tonight would have been inverted, correct? And any actions that I would take towards others (tracking Koshi) would not be inverted... correct?

On November 05 2020 23:35 Koshi wrote:
Why are you 2 so together all the time?

On November 05 2020 23:36 Koshi wrote:

lol

On November 05 2020 23:41 iamperfection wrote:

im not saying post his role pm im just saying use the actual words given.

On November 07 2020 04:21 Dirkzor wrote:

Was it deliberate that your first claim was so.... incoherent? I thought you were scum since your roles seemed way to OP. And the way you claimed was also "along the way" sorta claim.

On November 07 2020 06:17 Hapahauli wrote:
Bottom line was that the no-lynch was bad, and I needed to "re-create" the lynch. I didn't really think about TT's alignment much, and I'm glad I didn't. When I started reading his filter, I started thinking "well damn, if TT is mafia, he spent 80% of the game going after my scumreads and bussing Acro".

On November 07 2020 07:31 GlowingBear wrote:


Who are you?

On November 07 2020 18:20 Tictock wrote:


You were actually the worst to go though...

You wanted to sell that insurance every night man.

I also think Slam made a mistake in actually visiting the Database. He literally fake claimed a role that ment he could say he went but actually used his role every night... Had he not gone Rayns trap would not have worked.