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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
November 03 2020 21:11 GMT
#1781
On November 04 2020 06:10 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 06:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i actually like them a lot because i made them first

yes but he expanded on them and made them easier to understand we are going in a circle and your starting to bore me.

show me how? show me one thing he expanded on in comparison to me please.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 03 2020 21:12 GMT
#1782
I was starting to think rayn was scum but now he says he is also a time traveler I am second guessing it
Try TL Mafia!!!
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
November 03 2020 21:12 GMT
#1783
On November 04 2020 06:12 Onegu wrote:
I was starting to think rayn was scum but now he says he is also a time traveler I am second guessing it

i am also saying i am immortal.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
November 03 2020 21:13 GMT
#1784
On November 04 2020 06:12 Onegu wrote:
I was starting to think rayn was scum but now he says he is also a time traveler I am second guessing it

wouldnt that make you think he is more likely to be scum!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
November 03 2020 21:13 GMT
#1785
On November 04 2020 06:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 06:10 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i actually like them a lot because i made them first

yes but he expanded on them and made them easier to understand we are going in a circle and your starting to bore me.

show me how? show me one thing he expanded on in comparison to me please.

the whole thing that started this conversation im on phone
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 03 2020 21:13 GMT
#1786
On November 04 2020 05:37 Koshi wrote:
Pretty sure mafia will start killing townies the longer the games takes and destabilation goes up. That's why Onegu is just mafia or not thinking.



Wait so you mean I can prevent more NKs as the game goes on if I am shot?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
November 03 2020 21:13 GMT
#1787
On November 04 2020 06:11 yamato77 wrote:
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On November 04 2020 04:49 Hapahauli wrote:
Dear Rayn,

Everyone takes different joys from a game of mafia. Personally, I get my sole satisfaction from this game from lynching correctly, and nothing else in this game comes close. From my conversations with you, you seem to, rather admirably, enjoy the arguments, the drama, and the "puzzle" of the thread. Maybe there is some grand conspiracy in this game. Maybe Acro was part of a larger scheme. Maybe I am the leader of a sleeper cell slowly finding my compatriots. Maybe I have some nefarious 3p mechanic that is slowly converting townies to my cause and turning into my Army of horse minions. I already got Yamato clearly. Who's next?

But unfortunately, I either know or doubt most of that to be true. Why? Because this is a boring game.

This is a boring game where a mafia player got lynched on Day 1.

There was zero resistance to his lynch on a day with hidden ballots.

There was zero resistance to his lynch on a day where town was thrown into chaos with parallel worlds.

This is not because of some grand conspiracy. This is because mafia is likely playing inactively and badly.

If you want to look down rabbit holes, then so be it. You find it fun, so part of you no doubt wants to believe the game isn't boring and explore those holes.

But it's not fun for me. It shits up the thread, makes it harder for me to read, and harder for me to find mafia. And I won't play that game with you, even if I get lynched for it.

Warmest Regards,
Hapa

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you probably like this a lot yamato, because you dont like me. but it doesnt really say anythig.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
November 03 2020 21:14 GMT
#1788
On November 04 2020 06:13 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 06:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:10 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i actually like them a lot because i made them first

yes but he expanded on them and made them easier to understand we are going in a circle and your starting to bore me.

show me how? show me one thing he expanded on in comparison to me please.

the whole thing that started this conversation im on phone

you mean the post where he basically quoted me and wrote it on his own words?
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
November 03 2020 21:14 GMT
#1789
On November 04 2020 06:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 06:13 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:10 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i actually like them a lot because i made them first

yes but he expanded on them and made them easier to understand we are going in a circle and your starting to bore me.

show me how? show me one thing he expanded on in comparison to me please.

the whole thing that started this conversation im on phone

you mean the post where he basically quoted me and wrote it on his own words?

yes but it was much better
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
November 03 2020 21:15 GMT
#1790
On November 04 2020 06:14 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 06:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:13 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:10 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i actually like them a lot because i made them first

yes but he expanded on them and made them easier to understand we are going in a circle and your starting to bore me.

show me how? show me one thing he expanded on in comparison to me please.

the whole thing that started this conversation im on phone

you mean the post where he basically quoted me and wrote it on his own words?

yes but it was much better

better or worse, smart person can tell it is the same.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
November 03 2020 21:16 GMT
#1791
like literally everything i said + something about his role which i cannot know lol
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
November 03 2020 21:21 GMT
#1792
On November 03 2020 05:17 Hapahauli wrote:
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On November 03 2020 02:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
1.Iamperfection
2. Hapahauli
3. Grackaroni
4. Onegu
5. Dirkzor
6. Acrofales (mafia)

7. ShoCkeyy
8. Alakaslam
9. Tictock
10. Koshi
11. Raynpelikoneet
12. Yamato77

now who gets lynched who is not mafia in each thread? maybe shockeyy was the assumed scapegoat in the second thread. Maybe acrofales was the only mafia in first thread? I wouldnt bank on onegu/grack 1v1 and you definitely dont want to lynch yourself and you cannot pretty much lynch anyone out of iamp/hapa/dirk.


This is really interesting, and I think it heavily discounts the Onegu mafia theory. If you are Acro and set up the threads in this way, who is the mislynch target in 1-6? Onegu and Grack are the only realistic mislynch targets here.

Acro doesn't really attempt to push Grack at all, and instead pushes Onegu and Shockeyy for most of the day.

So we have to believe that Onegu and Acro had a plan to bus each other hard for town cred (unlikely, given how inactive Onegu was and generally is), or that Acro's motivations have more face-value to them.

This is all nothing but what i said. Literally nothing else than what i said before, hapa just +1'd me. NOTHING. NOT A SINGLE THING.
if you take out the below, which is completely role-related:
The other thing that sticks out to me is Acro's attempt to goad me into shooting Onegu:

Show nested quote +
On October 30 2020 03:35 Acrofales wrote:
If so shoot onegu.


Show nested quote +
On October 30 2020 03:46 Acrofales wrote:
On October 30 2020 03:38 Hapahauli wrote:
I know why I would want Onegu shot. Why do you?

He has no intention to play the game. I know onegu is often like this, but more likely he is *completely* useless when scum. He is now *completely* useless and I don't want to waste time, thought or effort on him. So having a self-claimed 3p shoot him seems like a neat solution! And then when he flips scum, you are super unlikely to be scum with him, and it is also less likely you have some weird cultist crap. Could still be SK, but that sounds easy to deal with.


Now I was Roleblocked (seemingly by mafia), so this may have been an "empty" play by Acro. However, if Acro seriously thinks I have KP, and he successfully "convinces" me into shooting Onegu, mafia is committed to Roleblock me for the rest of the game.

I am inclined to take Acro's words at face value once again - mafia generally don't goad third parties into shooting scumbuddies.

he was roleblocked, seemingly by mafia. Okay what else?
Analysis of how he was rb'd by mafia and what it means. super deep lengths? okay you may say that, how is that deeper than my analysis when i dont know what he does?

in the end he wants to take acro's words by face value, i do too, to some point, iamp DOES NOT, but still hapa went to different lengths in analysis than i did. What the fuck man?
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
November 03 2020 21:24 GMT
#1793
i found his post easier to understand i didn't get what you were going with the first post at first.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
November 03 2020 21:26 GMT
#1794
On November 04 2020 06:24 iamperfection wrote:
i found his post easier to understand i didn't get what you were going with the first post at first.

i even made multiple posts after that on the same subject, it's not my fault you cannot understand them. Also if my post there is less "readable" than hapa's (even if i dont speak english as my mother tongue) then lol... i might have wanted to use other words but just lol...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
November 03 2020 21:28 GMT
#1795
On November 04 2020 06:24 iamperfection wrote:
i found his post easier to understand i didn't get what you were going with the first post at first.

you even talked about it with me before he posted????
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
November 03 2020 21:29 GMT
#1796
i give up. do whatever you guys want.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
November 03 2020 21:30 GMT
#1797
shockeyy help pls
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 03 2020 21:33 GMT
#1798
On November 04 2020 06:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
shockeyy help pls


Thankfully they rescheduled my meeting right now, so I can be around.
Life?
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 03 2020 21:34 GMT
#1799
On November 04 2020 06:13 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 06:12 Onegu wrote:
I was starting to think rayn was scum but now he says he is also a time traveler I am second guessing it

wouldnt that make you think he is more likely to be scum!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!


Not really, look at my role.
Life?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
November 03 2020 21:36 GMT
#1800
who is mafia iamp?
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