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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
November 02 2020 14:28 GMT
#1181
On November 02 2020 23:26 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 23:24 Onegu wrote:
It makes sense if scum will never shoot you... ANd you want to be shot...

-poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops-

Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 21:47 Hapahauli wrote:
I shot TT.


-licks fondly-

How did I miss that
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 02 2020 14:29 GMT
#1182
On November 02 2020 23:24 Dirkzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 23:20 iamperfection wrote:
On November 02 2020 23:18 Dirkzor wrote:
About the mayor thing. I think those we can choose from are the planeteers if i remember correctly? Who did that?

I dont mind voting for rayn but i want to agree on who we want to lynch first anyway.

Also this fell out while looking at other stuff:

On November 02 2020 10:41 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 02 2020 05:08 Hapahauli wrote:
The Acro lynch no-flip is... annoying. However, I don't see any reason to speculate on it for now, since it looks like he will flip alignment at some point down the road. It puts me in a position where I feel I have very little new information to go on to second check my reads. My reads haven't changed all that much. I think we can find 2 mafia in the group of TT/Onegu/Grack. My thoughts and paranoia may change if Acro flips town.

I do think Slam's story is fine (or at the very least, non-alignment indicative). It would make a lot more sense for mafia slam to swear that he voted, thereby creating a scenario with extra paranoia about all four voters on the TT wagon. Slam being "honest" about his fuck-up doesn't strike me as mafia motivated.

I also have been thinking about Shockeyy's claim more, and I do believe he is town. I do not see how targeting Iamp with a redirect ability (which seemingly checks out) is mafia-sided.

The "database plan" of sending Iamp alone is fine. I would be interested in getting information about Dirkzor's role, both to check his story and to get an idea of what the "reward" may be.



Onegu/I both voted for Acro. Why would Acro being town change your thoughts? Wouldn't it be if Acro was mafia?



its ok for me to role hunt it aint ok for you. why you do that?


What?

did i stutter?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 02 2020 14:29 GMT
#1183
his first post during the night phase he started...
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 02 2020 14:30 GMT
#1184
On November 02 2020 23:27 Dirkzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 23:15 yamato77 wrote:
On November 02 2020 23:11 Dirkzor wrote:
On November 02 2020 23:09 yamato77 wrote:
On November 02 2020 23:07 iamperfection wrote:
im pretty sure yamato is claiming he has to write like that.

-licks fondly-

I'm sorry for my outburst earlier then. I was just tired of people not really even trying.

Ok yamato now we can talk:

Did you do any action this night?

Did someone do an action against you?


-eats carrot-

-poops-

On November 02 2020 23:12 iamperfection wrote:
oh if anyone wants to claim an action on yamato i suggest you do that now too.


On October 29 2020 14:35 yamato77 wrote:
On October 29 2020 14:33 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 14:30 yamato77 wrote:
On October 29 2020 10:23 Hapahauli wrote:
I asked GreYMist, and choosing "what effect the next stage of corruption level will cause" is not an option of choice.

You have to choose a player to target.


Hapa's post, for reference. Forgot to add it in my last post.

i havent gotten an answer i dont think i will get one either. I think you can target a player and choose that option though.

I think what it means is that you will learn what the next level of corruption will do to that player's role.

My personal belief is that Corruption could potentially lead to negative effects on certain roles. Reading my role PM carefully, I think that I must be careful wrt corruption levels.



I think thats a no on both fronts but i'm not really sure.

What im getting is that corruption level increase made it so that yamato can only write this way. Not anyone elses ability. I will check when he started to talk like dog....


-eats carrot-

On October 29 2020 14:35 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 14:33 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 14:30 yamato77 wrote:
On October 29 2020 10:23 Hapahauli wrote:
I asked GreYMist, and choosing "what effect the next stage of corruption level will cause" is not an option of choice.

You have to choose a player to target.


Hapa's post, for reference. Forgot to add it in my last post.

i havent gotten an answer i dont think i will get one either. I think you can target a player and choose that option though.

I think what it means is that you will learn what the next level of corruption will do to that player's role.

My personal belief is that Corruption could potentially lead to negative effects on certain roles. Reading my role PM carefully, I think that I must be careful wrt corruption levels.


On October 29 2020 14:29 yamato77 wrote:
Yeah we have to be able to reasonably trust who we send and I do not trust Shockey.

Also, like Hapa said below, you can't choose to find out about corruption you just have to target a player.

Like I said before Hapa is a great choice for finding out more about his role and I would add Rayn and Shockey to that as well since there is definitely something strange going on between them given how Rayn's read changed.

I could potentially go (my role doesn't require the night action I thought it did) but it seems a lot of people null read me at best so I would have to do some convincing. I suppose I could force the issue but I'd rather do so with the full faith of town.


On October 30 2020 07:40 yamato77 wrote:
Trusting Dirk is difficult for me. The aware miller-ish aspect adds a layer of strangeness to what is already quite a convoluted role. If anything his post seems to be focused mainly on keeping himself alive for a vague promise of maybe helping town in 5 cycles, which is a long time. This sounds more like an actual survivor claim than any "actually town but may appear 3p" like he said. I don't think he's telling the 100% truth. Then again, the precedent in this very game is to hide one's own power level, so to speak, so I don't exactly think that means he's mafia. Another great candidate to check with the Library.

I don't think we should be asking about what corruption will do when we have so many claims to evaluate. Perhaps if it increases to 2 we could see what would happen at 3 but right now at 1 there's not much point if I read the OP correctly.

Rayn's return to the thread has been less than inspiring. Among a litany of list posts his seems mostly aimed at staying stuck in his reads he made hours ago and dismissing anything that has happened since. That said he is no stranger to confirmation bias so it's not particularly alignment indicative for him to not have developed further.

What's hilarious about this is that I actually find myself agreeing with him about the corruption level now that I think about it. I might choose to go myself and gain some information. I don't think I'm going to take any action involving my role as it exists now. That may change later on, because I don't know much about my role!

I didn't realize a different mini actually had multiple scum teams, but the OP reads as if there's only one (especially given the stated 1 KP) so until I have reason to believe otherwise I am going to play under that assumption. I don't see much merit in speculating about the two scum team theory.

I already stated why I take Hapa's claim at face value and dismissing that read because it looks like buddying is absurd. If I am indeed mafia, why would I buddy with a competing alignment? If we were both mafia, why would we need to "buddy up"? Rayn's reasoning here is obviously flawed, and as he himself admitted he has too many scumreads for them all to co-exist.

Shockey's list post was particularly awful. It is early sure but that was a series of thin one-liners that displayed a lack of critical thought about the game, especially as it pertains to me. I have not refused to cooperate with anyone. I have stated how I wanted to play the game and I have done so. Rayn's meta-defense of my scumread of Shockey for his posting leaves me less than enthused if this is what I should expect from a player who thinks they are analytical. Rayn's seeming certainty of Shockey's alignment is unsettling, to say the least. I have to assume knowledge outside of the thread, and the withholding of that knowledge is inherently anti-town in my opinion.

There are a lot of players in this game I don't have much of an opinion on because of their sparse, conversational and interaction based posting. Grack seems to be solely reactive. Onegu, likewise, seems to be mostly reactive outside of his claim. Ticktock's posting appeared rather bland and inoffensive, but was more substantive in comparison.

One person I absolutely do not care for is Acro. He is hyper-focused on Hapa's claim to a fault. His comments on anything outside of that since the early parts of the game are sparse. He wrote a whole bunch of nothing about my spat with Rayn and has followed up on literally nothing except his evaluation of a single 3p claim. This fixation is something that appears genuine, but could easily come from mafia. I do not trust him.

Writer@WriterYamato
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 02 2020 14:31 GMT
#1185
When the fuck do I ever play like a good townie?

My role is get shot and then I can sacrifice myself to prevent all day and night kills including the lynch for a full day night cycle.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 02 2020 14:32 GMT
#1186
On November 02 2020 23:31 Onegu wrote:
When the fuck do I ever play like a good townie?

My role is get shot and then I can sacrifice myself to prevent all day and night kills including the lynch for a full day night cycle.

so you didnt visit anyone then correct ?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 02 2020 14:32 GMT
#1187
On November 02 2020 23:31 Onegu wrote:
When the fuck do I ever play like a good townie?

My role is get shot and then I can sacrifice myself to prevent all day and night kills including the lynch for a full day night cycle.

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Writer@WriterYamato
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 02 2020 14:33 GMT
#1188
What do you mean? I visited koshi night one... I am a vet so I didnt have a action to make.

Koshi has a role from a previous game.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 02 2020 14:34 GMT
#1189
sorry night 0
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 02 2020 14:34 GMT
#1190
Yamato, is your "transformation" temporary?

For "yes" - eat a carrot
For "no" - poop.

God that was weird to write.
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Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
November 02 2020 14:35 GMT
#1191
On November 02 2020 23:29 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 23:24 Dirkzor wrote:
On November 02 2020 23:20 iamperfection wrote:
On November 02 2020 23:18 Dirkzor wrote:
About the mayor thing. I think those we can choose from are the planeteers if i remember correctly? Who did that?

I dont mind voting for rayn but i want to agree on who we want to lynch first anyway.

Also this fell out while looking at other stuff:

On November 02 2020 10:41 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 02 2020 05:08 Hapahauli wrote:
The Acro lynch no-flip is... annoying. However, I don't see any reason to speculate on it for now, since it looks like he will flip alignment at some point down the road. It puts me in a position where I feel I have very little new information to go on to second check my reads. My reads haven't changed all that much. I think we can find 2 mafia in the group of TT/Onegu/Grack. My thoughts and paranoia may change if Acro flips town.

I do think Slam's story is fine (or at the very least, non-alignment indicative). It would make a lot more sense for mafia slam to swear that he voted, thereby creating a scenario with extra paranoia about all four voters on the TT wagon. Slam being "honest" about his fuck-up doesn't strike me as mafia motivated.

I also have been thinking about Shockeyy's claim more, and I do believe he is town. I do not see how targeting Iamp with a redirect ability (which seemingly checks out) is mafia-sided.

The "database plan" of sending Iamp alone is fine. I would be interested in getting information about Dirkzor's role, both to check his story and to get an idea of what the "reward" may be.



Onegu/I both voted for Acro. Why would Acro being town change your thoughts? Wouldn't it be if Acro was mafia?



its ok for me to role hunt it aint ok for you. why you do that?


What?

did i stutter?


No, but i dont understand anyway. I'm trying to figure shit out just like you and you attack me.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 02 2020 14:35 GMT
#1192
last night I didnt go as I didnt want to make it to lvl 3. Lvl 2 I was fine putting it on I would have had every single person visit n0
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 02 2020 14:35 GMT
#1193
On November 02 2020 23:34 Hapahauli wrote:
Yamato, is your "transformation" temporary?

For "yes" - eat a carrot
For "no" - poop.

God that was weird to write.

-poop-
Writer@WriterYamato
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 02 2020 14:35 GMT
#1194
Sniff if you have no clue...
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 02 2020 14:36 GMT
#1195
because he just bolded he doesnt know all his role does and it looks like it changes depending on corruption
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 02 2020 14:36 GMT
#1196
On November 02 2020 23:35 Onegu wrote:
last night I didnt go as I didnt want to make it to lvl 3. Lvl 2 I was fine putting it on I would have had every single person visit n0

so you did no action last night correct ?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 02 2020 14:37 GMT
#1197
On November 02 2020 23:36 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 23:35 Onegu wrote:
last night I didnt go as I didnt want to make it to lvl 3. Lvl 2 I was fine putting it on I would have had every single person visit n0

so you did no action last night correct ?



Correct
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 02 2020 14:37 GMT
#1198
On November 02 2020 23:36 Onegu wrote:
because he just bolded he doesnt know all his role does and it looks like it changes depending on corruption

-poops-
Writer@WriterYamato
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 02 2020 14:38 GMT
#1199
On November 02 2020 23:35 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 23:34 Hapahauli wrote:
Yamato, is your "transformation" temporary?

For "yes" - eat a carrot
For "no" - poop.

God that was weird to write.

-poop-

-poop- = this is bull shit
Carrot = i somewhat agree/ good thinking
Licks fondly = I completely agree.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
November 02 2020 14:38 GMT
#1200
What im reading is that Yamato is now a dog. Someone give him a bone?
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
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