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I tried to figure out who pushed the idea of KP going to +1 instead of just "more powerful". It seems to have just sorta materialized by its own. So i don't think anyone on any side knew/know what the actually change will be. Was hoping to catch someone there.
either way, i think "more powerful" does not mean +1 kp. I think a 2 KP mafia side in a 12 player game (even if its only later in game) is too overpowered. What it means, i have no clue. I'm not that strong in roles and it being a greymist game makes it even harder to guess.
My best lynch right now would be onegu. I don't like his claim. Considering my own role (and a read through of older aperture roles) his own claim seems so underwhelming. I got the ability you have already seen AND a night action. Onegu have nothing until he gets an item? There must be something more. Maybe my role is the odd one out but who knows.
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I am not going to the database
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Okay seems like all flips are delayed 1 phase.
Acro being scum is nice. We also learned he controlled the groups. He choose to make them 1-6 7-12. ended up a bit different due to shockeys ability. This gives us some info.
There can maximum me one more scum in 2-7. There can maximum be 2 scum on 1+8-12. (see below)
It also saids there are maximum 4 scum (in acrofales team, tho i doubt there are 2 scum teams at this point)
I now firmly believe that shockeys claim was true. He is town. I have had a town read on Hapa most of the game (despite his claim). He does and think the same way i do.
So i think we can find scum in Grack or Onegu. To be honest it could be either. I've had scum read on grack most of this game. His stupid town move did gave me pause. Onegu i explained before.
In the 1+8-12 it isnt as clear cut for me. After TickTocs flip we will know more.
Iamp have been acting protown the whole game. Don't think we will find scum here. Him not being dead does give me some doubts tho.
Rayn is a bit of a rollercoaster for me. His posting is quite town but his claims have been all over and are still giving me a headache how you can do that as scum? I'm still waiting for him to reveal his grand master plan... I don't think we should look here for scum
This leaves Koshi, yamato and slam.
If TT flips scum i guess Slam is our scum. If TT flips something else we can look at the other 2.
2. Hapahauli
3. Grackaroni
4. Onegu
5. Dirkzor
6. Acrofales
7. ShoCkeyy
1.Iamperfection
8. Alakaslam
9. Tictock
10. Koshi
11. Raynpelikoneet
12. Yamato77
I don't think scum would KP TT. Seems weird. So did scum not KP (again) this night? Shockey did you block again? Or what am i missing
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On November 02 2020 21:56 Koshi wrote:
Dirkzor also Question:
Do you have to be alive for the good thing to happen?
Yes. it will be sent to me.
Also i see now that Hapa shot TT.
So scum didn't kill again. (or hapa is scum, but i don't believe he is)
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On November 02 2020 22:07 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2020 22:06 Koshi wrote:
Where did you read each group had to have 1 scum? 3 mafia in a mini. 6 players in a group. More than half equals 4. So 3 could easily be in 1 group.
You may not, through the use of this power, knowingly cause there to be a thread in which the members of Aperture Science is equal to or greater than the number of town in that thread.
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Well to be fair the word knowingly does throw my analysis a bit off. Shockeys move did changes it a bit. But the goundwork is still the same.
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To be fair mafia team could also just be 2 people. But i dont think so with this many powerful abilities.
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On November 02 2020 23:09 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2020 23:07 iamperfection wrote:
im pretty sure yamato is claiming he has to write like that. -licks fondly-
I'm sorry for my outburst earlier then. I was just tired of people not really even trying.
Ok yamato now we can talk:
Did you do any action this night?
Did someone do an action against you?
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About the mayor thing. I think those we can choose from are the planeteers if i remember correctly? Who did that?
I dont mind voting for rayn but i want to agree on who we want to lynch first anyway.
Also this fell out while looking at other stuff:
On November 02 2020 10:41 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2020 05:08 Hapahauli wrote:
The Acro lynch no-flip is... annoying. However, I don't see any reason to speculate on it for now, since it looks like he will flip alignment at some point down the road. It puts me in a position where I feel I have very little new information to go on to second check my reads. My reads haven't changed all that much. I think we can find 2 mafia in the group of TT/Onegu/Grack. My thoughts and paranoia may change if Acro flips town.
I do think Slam's story is fine (or at the very least, non-alignment indicative). It would make a lot more sense for mafia slam to swear that he voted, thereby creating a scenario with extra paranoia about all four voters on the TT wagon. Slam being "honest" about his fuck-up doesn't strike me as mafia motivated.
I also have been thinking about Shockeyy's claim more, and I do believe he is town. I do not see how targeting Iamp with a redirect ability (which seemingly checks out) is mafia-sided.
The "database plan" of sending Iamp alone is fine. I would be interested in getting information about Dirkzor's role, both to check his story and to get an idea of what the "reward" may be.
Onegu/I both voted for Acro. Why would Acro being town change your thoughts? Wouldn't it be if Acro was mafia?
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On November 02 2020 23:20 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2020 23:18 Dirkzor wrote:About the mayor thing. I think those we can choose from are the planeteers if i remember correctly? Who did that? I dont mind voting for rayn but i want to agree on who we want to lynch first anyway. Also this fell out while looking at other stuff: On November 02 2020 10:41 Grackaroni wrote:On November 02 2020 05:08 Hapahauli wrote:
The Acro lynch no-flip is... annoying. However, I don't see any reason to speculate on it for now, since it looks like he will flip alignment at some point down the road. It puts me in a position where I feel I have very little new information to go on to second check my reads. My reads haven't changed all that much. I think we can find 2 mafia in the group of TT/Onegu/Grack. My thoughts and paranoia may change if Acro flips town.
I do think Slam's story is fine (or at the very least, non-alignment indicative). It would make a lot more sense for mafia slam to swear that he voted, thereby creating a scenario with extra paranoia about all four voters on the TT wagon. Slam being "honest" about his fuck-up doesn't strike me as mafia motivated.
I also have been thinking about Shockeyy's claim more, and I do believe he is town. I do not see how targeting Iamp with a redirect ability (which seemingly checks out) is mafia-sided.
The "database plan" of sending Iamp alone is fine. I would be interested in getting information about Dirkzor's role, both to check his story and to get an idea of what the "reward" may be.
Onegu/I both voted for Acro. Why would Acro being town change your thoughts? Wouldn't it be if Acro was mafia? its ok for me to role hunt it aint ok for you. why you do that?
What?
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On November 02 2020 23:15 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2020 23:11 Dirkzor wrote:On November 02 2020 23:09 yamato77 wrote:On November 02 2020 23:07 iamperfection wrote:
im pretty sure yamato is claiming he has to write like that. -licks fondly- I'm sorry for my outburst earlier then. I was just tired of people not really even trying. Ok yamato now we can talk: Did you do any action this night?
Did someone do an action against you? -eats carrot- -poops- Show nested quote +On November 02 2020 23:12 iamperfection wrote:
oh if anyone wants to claim an action on yamato i suggest you do that now too. Show nested quote +On October 29 2020 14:35 yamato77 wrote:On October 29 2020 14:33 iamperfection wrote:On October 29 2020 14:30 yamato77 wrote:On October 29 2020 10:23 Hapahauli wrote:
I asked GreYMist, and choosing "what effect the next stage of corruption level will cause" is not an option of choice.
You have to choose a player to target. Hapa's post, for reference. Forgot to add it in my last post. i havent gotten an answer i dont think i will get one either. I think you can target a player and choose that option though. I think what it means is that you will learn what the next level of corruption will do to that player's role. My personal belief is that Corruption could potentially lead to negative effects on certain roles. Reading my role PM carefully, I think that I must be careful wrt corruption levels.
I think thats a no on both fronts but i'm not really sure.
What im getting is that corruption level increase made it so that yamato can only write this way. Not anyone elses ability. I will check when he started to talk like dog....
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On November 02 2020 23:29 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2020 23:24 Dirkzor wrote:On November 02 2020 23:20 iamperfection wrote:On November 02 2020 23:18 Dirkzor wrote:About the mayor thing. I think those we can choose from are the planeteers if i remember correctly? Who did that? I dont mind voting for rayn but i want to agree on who we want to lynch first anyway. Also this fell out while looking at other stuff: On November 02 2020 10:41 Grackaroni wrote:On November 02 2020 05:08 Hapahauli wrote:
The Acro lynch no-flip is... annoying. However, I don't see any reason to speculate on it for now, since it looks like he will flip alignment at some point down the road. It puts me in a position where I feel I have very little new information to go on to second check my reads. My reads haven't changed all that much. I think we can find 2 mafia in the group of TT/Onegu/Grack. My thoughts and paranoia may change if Acro flips town.
I do think Slam's story is fine (or at the very least, non-alignment indicative). It would make a lot more sense for mafia slam to swear that he voted, thereby creating a scenario with extra paranoia about all four voters on the TT wagon. Slam being "honest" about his fuck-up doesn't strike me as mafia motivated.
I also have been thinking about Shockeyy's claim more, and I do believe he is town. I do not see how targeting Iamp with a redirect ability (which seemingly checks out) is mafia-sided.
The "database plan" of sending Iamp alone is fine. I would be interested in getting information about Dirkzor's role, both to check his story and to get an idea of what the "reward" may be.
Onegu/I both voted for Acro. Why would Acro being town change your thoughts? Wouldn't it be if Acro was mafia? its ok for me to role hunt it aint ok for you. why you do that? What? did i stutter?
No, but i dont understand anyway. I'm trying to figure shit out just like you and you attack me.
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What im reading is that Yamato is now a dog. Someone give him a bone?
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How do you accidently make someone a rabbit... ? And why did you wait this long to claim? And you did it during the night not as a night action.
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On November 03 2020 00:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2020 00:05 Koshi wrote:On November 03 2020 00:04 Koshi wrote:On November 03 2020 00:01 ShoCkeyy wrote:On November 02 2020 23:57 Koshi wrote:
Like wtf could I have done that is mafialike or pushes mafia agenda. Pretty sure nothing. Not even by accident.
Just this weird idea I should care more as town. lol. Well first, you can stop pushing the town insurer as mafia. I’m certain I helped find Acro as mafia. Your role is a very big ??? I don't believe it except the busdriving part. Oh and to build on to that. You had Acro 100% pegged and trapped as mafia. Why did you vote Dirk? Cause Acro was getting voted out anyways. And my role isn’t very big if I get roleblocked like I did last night.
It was a hidden vote. How would you know if acro was voted or not?
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Yamato must be running out of carrots soon. And poop. Anyone have a magic carrot?
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On November 03 2020 00:19 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2020 00:12 Dirkzor wrote:On November 03 2020 00:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:On November 03 2020 00:05 Koshi wrote:On November 03 2020 00:04 Koshi wrote:On November 03 2020 00:01 ShoCkeyy wrote:On November 02 2020 23:57 Koshi wrote:
Like wtf could I have done that is mafialike or pushes mafia agenda. Pretty sure nothing. Not even by accident.
Just this weird idea I should care more as town. lol. Well first, you can stop pushing the town insurer as mafia. I’m certain I helped find Acro as mafia. Your role is a very big ??? I don't believe it except the busdriving part. Oh and to build on to that. You had Acro 100% pegged and trapped as mafia. Why did you vote Dirk? Cause Acro was getting voted out anyways. And my role isn’t very big if I get roleblocked like I did last night. It was a hidden vote. How would you know if acro was voted or not? One could also wonder how he knows he is being roleblocked except if it is notified. Or he protected TTTTT. But your question is fine as well.
Hapa was roleblocked the first night and was notified i believe. But the missing KP does raise questions.
Shockeys claim explained the missing KP the first night. But him being roleblocked this night does not explain away anything. There should be a kill this night.
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On November 03 2020 00:23 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2020 00:12 Dirkzor wrote:On November 03 2020 00:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:On November 03 2020 00:05 Koshi wrote:On November 03 2020 00:04 Koshi wrote:On November 03 2020 00:01 ShoCkeyy wrote:On November 02 2020 23:57 Koshi wrote:
Like wtf could I have done that is mafialike or pushes mafia agenda. Pretty sure nothing. Not even by accident.
Just this weird idea I should care more as town. lol. Well first, you can stop pushing the town insurer as mafia. I’m certain I helped find Acro as mafia. Your role is a very big ??? I don't believe it except the busdriving part. Oh and to build on to that. You had Acro 100% pegged and trapped as mafia. Why did you vote Dirk? Cause Acro was getting voted out anyways. And my role isn’t very big if I get roleblocked like I did last night. It was a hidden vote. How would you know if acro was voted or not? People literally posted who they were voting for... even you.
Yes we did that. But you didn't know how the votes went. We would have had the same issue the other thread had now if someone had fucked up. So the best town thing was to consolidate and make sure we got the lunch.
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But how do you explain the missing KP then?
Hapa killed him as scum?
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Hapa killed TT as scum and claimed it was a vig shot*
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