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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 22:34 GMT
#1860
On November 04 2020 07:33 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 07:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 04 2020 07:31 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 07:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If TT is not mafia why is yamato not there?

i said i am guessing he isnt im not sure.

Yamato is town why would he bus acro like that it wasnt needed. He caused the suspicion to be raised on acro in the first place after you.

i dont think i caused suspicion on acro?

yes you did i called him town and you disagreed

how is that causing suspicion? i think it was weak
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 22:36 GMT
#1863
On November 04 2020 07:35 iamperfection wrote:
I presume I was RB’d by mafia N0 means hes presuming that mafia did it not that hes presuming he was role blocked at all

it's shockeyy
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 22:37 GMT
#1866
On November 04 2020 07:36 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 07:35 iamperfection wrote:
I presume I was RB’d by mafia N0 means hes presuming that mafia did it not that hes presuming he was role blocked at all


I don't think town has a rb ability sadly. There's only been one roleblock a night. That throws your theory out the window.

explain?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 22:43 GMT
#1871
On November 04 2020 07:40 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 07:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 04 2020 07:36 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 04 2020 07:35 iamperfection wrote:
I presume I was RB’d by mafia N0 means hes presuming that mafia did it not that hes presuming he was role blocked at all


I don't think town has a rb ability sadly. There's only been one roleblock a night. That throws your theory out the window.

explain?


Only one claim of rb per night has happened, and I doubt that town would have it unless mafia is actually stupid strong. But i just don't think town does have a rb, because I got rb second night, but that's it, one claim of rb per night can only mean there's only one roleblocker.

why does that throw the theory out of the window?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 22:45 GMT
#1873
iamp, why does hapa need to claim roleblocks are notified about 3 days after he is roleblocked?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 22:50 GMT
#1879
On November 04 2020 07:31 ShoCkeyy wrote:
So, check this out.

Hapa claims RB without even knowing if RB gets a pm, then immediately knows to vote Acro D1.

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On November 02 2020 21:59 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 02 2020 21:54 Koshi wrote:
Question Hapa:

Is there a reason for mafia to fear your shot? This is not the gun Onegu was talking about earlier right?


My gun has nothing to do with Onegu... it’s not really a “gun”. It’s more like a zergling all-in.

I presume I was RB’d by mafia N0, so that would indicate some level of fear (see Acro’s fixation on directing my KP).


Why do you need to presume you were RB?

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On November 03 2020 00:24 Hapahauli wrote:
OP says that roleblocks are notified.


Why do you need to check 4 days later if RB are notified? You definitely would have been notified.

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On October 30 2020 21:16 Hapahauli wrote:
I was roleblocked.

Acro, does your ability allow you to control who goes into what thread?


Hapa?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 22:53 GMT
#1880
true
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 22:54 GMT
#1882
yeah kill slam.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 22:55 GMT
#1883
+ Show Spoiler +
kill hapa
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 22:58 GMT
#1884
On November 04 2020 06:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On November 03 2020 05:17 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 03 2020 02:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
1.Iamperfection
2. Hapahauli
3. Grackaroni
4. Onegu
5. Dirkzor
6. Acrofales (mafia)

7. ShoCkeyy
8. Alakaslam
9. Tictock
10. Koshi
11. Raynpelikoneet
12. Yamato77

now who gets lynched who is not mafia in each thread? maybe shockeyy was the assumed scapegoat in the second thread. Maybe acrofales was the only mafia in first thread? I wouldnt bank on onegu/grack 1v1 and you definitely dont want to lynch yourself and you cannot pretty much lynch anyone out of iamp/hapa/dirk.


This is really interesting, and I think it heavily discounts the Onegu mafia theory. If you are Acro and set up the threads in this way, who is the mislynch target in 1-6? Onegu and Grack are the only realistic mislynch targets here.

Acro doesn't really attempt to push Grack at all, and instead pushes Onegu and Shockeyy for most of the day.

So we have to believe that Onegu and Acro had a plan to bus each other hard for town cred (unlikely, given how inactive Onegu was and generally is), or that Acro's motivations have more face-value to them.

This is all nothing but what i said. Literally nothing else than what i said before, hapa just +1'd me. NOTHING. NOT A SINGLE THING.
if you take out the below, which is completely role-related:
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The other thing that sticks out to me is Acro's attempt to goad me into shooting Onegu:

On October 30 2020 03:35 Acrofales wrote:
If so shoot onegu.


On October 30 2020 03:46 Acrofales wrote:
On October 30 2020 03:38 Hapahauli wrote:
I know why I would want Onegu shot. Why do you?

He has no intention to play the game. I know onegu is often like this, but more likely he is *completely* useless when scum. He is now *completely* useless and I don't want to waste time, thought or effort on him. So having a self-claimed 3p shoot him seems like a neat solution! And then when he flips scum, you are super unlikely to be scum with him, and it is also less likely you have some weird cultist crap. Could still be SK, but that sounds easy to deal with.


Now I was Roleblocked (seemingly by mafia), so this may have been an "empty" play by Acro. However, if Acro seriously thinks I have KP, and he successfully "convinces" me into shooting Onegu, mafia is committed to Roleblock me for the rest of the game.

I am inclined to take Acro's words at face value once again - mafia generally don't goad third parties into shooting scumbuddies.

he was roleblocked, seemingly by mafia. Okay what else?
Analysis of how he was rb'd by mafia and what it means. super deep lengths? okay you may say that, how is that deeper than my analysis when i dont know what he does?

in the end he wants to take acro's words by face value, i do too, to some point, iamp DOES NOT, but still hapa went to different lengths in analysis than i did. What the fuck man?

i stand by this. good night for real now
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 04 2020 12:49 GMT
#2006
I am gonna take a break until tomorrow. Need to do stuff at the apartment today. I think Slam and only should be forced to go to the database. Thretened by getting lynched if he doesn't go.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 05 2020 05:52 GMT
#2096
On November 05 2020 00:40 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2020 00:16 Grackaroni wrote:
There's no reason why Rayn would be mafia though. He helped get rid of TTTTT. We already know Hapa is 3rd party because he called his alternate win condition his 3rd party win-con. Maybe he can win with town as well maybe not.

If it's not Slam then it's going to be Dirkzor. I know I'm not mafia. Dirkzor poked around a few places for the day1 lynch and probably moved his vote to Acro because the townies in the other thread were all pushing for lynching him. There was no indication that Onegu/I were going to come in and vote on Hapa, and I think he had every reason to believe the lynch could still move around with time to somebody else.

Slam/I need to be cleared out anyway and it seems like town has a big enough lead at the moment to do that.

What about yamato. 2 friends rip and he talks carrot. Coincidence?

yamato is confirmed town
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 05 2020 06:23 GMT
#2097
On November 05 2020 10:48 iamperfection wrote:
so just slam and grack go to the database agreed ?

Yes. Slam and Grack go.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 05 2020 08:08 GMT
#2104
Well then you probably have no other option than call me mafia because yamato is literally confirmed town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 05 2020 08:12 GMT
#2105
On October 31 2020 02:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
People who went to the database:

Alakaslam (no)
Tictock
Koshi (no)
Raynpelikoneet (no)
Yamato77 (yes)
Iamperfection (yes)

Hapahauli (roleblocked, so no)
Grackaroni (no)
Onegu
Dirkzor (no)
Acrofales (confirmed no)
ShoCkeyy (no)

Now use your brain for a moment.
Let me help you a little bit, iamp is also confirmed town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 05 2020 08:38 GMT
#2107
We know that roleblock happened N0.
From mafia TT went to database, Acrofales couldnt have gone because otherwise he couldnt have used his role.

TT went confirmed because 4 people went and corruption went up. So everyone who said they went actually went.

TT is not a eoleblocker, so because of the corruption going up yamato, iamp (and onegu) cannot be mafia roleblocker either.

Unless you want to claim either 2 mafia teams or that mafia doesnt have a roleblocker...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 05 2020 08:41 GMT
#2108
So yamato basically killed a dude who would be confirmed town now.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 05 2020 09:06 GMT
#2110
It doesnt look good on me that someone else is town? WTF is that even?

Do you realise that TT would be 100% alive (regardless of Hapa) D2 if i hadnt pushed his lynch D1 AND N1???? Thats literally more townie than ehat snyone in this game has done, aside from being confirmed town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 05 2020 12:04 GMT
#2122
iamp?
Slam?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 05 2020 12:06 GMT
#2124
Its time to lynch motherfucking liar slam.
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