• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 19:42
CEST 01:42
KST 08:42
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists8[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy21
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers5Maestros of the Game 2 announced22026 GSL Tour plans announced3Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail0MaNa leaves Team Liquid18
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists 2026 GSL Tour plans announced Maestros of the Game 2 announced Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail MaNa leaves Team Liquid
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) SEL Doubles (SC Evo Bimonthly) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Data needed A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone [ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro16 Group B [ASL21] Ro16 Group A [ASL21] Ro24 Group F [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Reappraising The Situation T…
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2758 users

[M][T] Aperture Mafia 4, Episode 2 - Page 25

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 23 24 25 26 27 34 Next All
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 22:34 GMT
#1860
On November 04 2020 07:33 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 07:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 04 2020 07:31 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 07:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If TT is not mafia why is yamato not there?

i said i am guessing he isnt im not sure.

Yamato is town why would he bus acro like that it wasnt needed. He caused the suspicion to be raised on acro in the first place after you.

i dont think i caused suspicion on acro?

yes you did i called him town and you disagreed

how is that causing suspicion? i think it was weak
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 22:36 GMT
#1863
On November 04 2020 07:35 iamperfection wrote:
I presume I was RB’d by mafia N0 means hes presuming that mafia did it not that hes presuming he was role blocked at all

it's shockeyy
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 22:37 GMT
#1866
On November 04 2020 07:36 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 07:35 iamperfection wrote:
I presume I was RB’d by mafia N0 means hes presuming that mafia did it not that hes presuming he was role blocked at all


I don't think town has a rb ability sadly. There's only been one roleblock a night. That throws your theory out the window.

explain?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 22:43 GMT
#1871
On November 04 2020 07:40 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 07:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 04 2020 07:36 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 04 2020 07:35 iamperfection wrote:
I presume I was RB’d by mafia N0 means hes presuming that mafia did it not that hes presuming he was role blocked at all


I don't think town has a rb ability sadly. There's only been one roleblock a night. That throws your theory out the window.

explain?


Only one claim of rb per night has happened, and I doubt that town would have it unless mafia is actually stupid strong. But i just don't think town does have a rb, because I got rb second night, but that's it, one claim of rb per night can only mean there's only one roleblocker.

why does that throw the theory out of the window?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 22:45 GMT
#1873
iamp, why does hapa need to claim roleblocks are notified about 3 days after he is roleblocked?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 22:50 GMT
#1879
On November 04 2020 07:31 ShoCkeyy wrote:
So, check this out.

Hapa claims RB without even knowing if RB gets a pm, then immediately knows to vote Acro D1.

Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 21:59 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 02 2020 21:54 Koshi wrote:
Question Hapa:

Is there a reason for mafia to fear your shot? This is not the gun Onegu was talking about earlier right?


My gun has nothing to do with Onegu... it’s not really a “gun”. It’s more like a zergling all-in.

I presume I was RB’d by mafia N0, so that would indicate some level of fear (see Acro’s fixation on directing my KP).


Why do you need to presume you were RB?

Show nested quote +
On November 03 2020 00:24 Hapahauli wrote:
OP says that roleblocks are notified.


Why do you need to check 4 days later if RB are notified? You definitely would have been notified.

Show nested quote +
On October 30 2020 21:16 Hapahauli wrote:
I was roleblocked.

Acro, does your ability allow you to control who goes into what thread?


Hapa?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 22:53 GMT
#1880
true
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 22:54 GMT
#1882
yeah kill slam.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 22:55 GMT
#1883
+ Show Spoiler +
kill hapa
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 22:58 GMT
#1884
On November 04 2020 06:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2020 05:17 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 03 2020 02:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
1.Iamperfection
2. Hapahauli
3. Grackaroni
4. Onegu
5. Dirkzor
6. Acrofales (mafia)

7. ShoCkeyy
8. Alakaslam
9. Tictock
10. Koshi
11. Raynpelikoneet
12. Yamato77

now who gets lynched who is not mafia in each thread? maybe shockeyy was the assumed scapegoat in the second thread. Maybe acrofales was the only mafia in first thread? I wouldnt bank on onegu/grack 1v1 and you definitely dont want to lynch yourself and you cannot pretty much lynch anyone out of iamp/hapa/dirk.


This is really interesting, and I think it heavily discounts the Onegu mafia theory. If you are Acro and set up the threads in this way, who is the mislynch target in 1-6? Onegu and Grack are the only realistic mislynch targets here.

Acro doesn't really attempt to push Grack at all, and instead pushes Onegu and Shockeyy for most of the day.

So we have to believe that Onegu and Acro had a plan to bus each other hard for town cred (unlikely, given how inactive Onegu was and generally is), or that Acro's motivations have more face-value to them.

This is all nothing but what i said. Literally nothing else than what i said before, hapa just +1'd me. NOTHING. NOT A SINGLE THING.
if you take out the below, which is completely role-related:
Show nested quote +
The other thing that sticks out to me is Acro's attempt to goad me into shooting Onegu:

On October 30 2020 03:35 Acrofales wrote:
If so shoot onegu.


On October 30 2020 03:46 Acrofales wrote:
On October 30 2020 03:38 Hapahauli wrote:
I know why I would want Onegu shot. Why do you?

He has no intention to play the game. I know onegu is often like this, but more likely he is *completely* useless when scum. He is now *completely* useless and I don't want to waste time, thought or effort on him. So having a self-claimed 3p shoot him seems like a neat solution! And then when he flips scum, you are super unlikely to be scum with him, and it is also less likely you have some weird cultist crap. Could still be SK, but that sounds easy to deal with.


Now I was Roleblocked (seemingly by mafia), so this may have been an "empty" play by Acro. However, if Acro seriously thinks I have KP, and he successfully "convinces" me into shooting Onegu, mafia is committed to Roleblock me for the rest of the game.

I am inclined to take Acro's words at face value once again - mafia generally don't goad third parties into shooting scumbuddies.

he was roleblocked, seemingly by mafia. Okay what else?
Analysis of how he was rb'd by mafia and what it means. super deep lengths? okay you may say that, how is that deeper than my analysis when i dont know what he does?

in the end he wants to take acro's words by face value, i do too, to some point, iamp DOES NOT, but still hapa went to different lengths in analysis than i did. What the fuck man?

i stand by this. good night for real now
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 04 2020 12:49 GMT
#2006
I am gonna take a break until tomorrow. Need to do stuff at the apartment today. I think Slam and only should be forced to go to the database. Thretened by getting lynched if he doesn't go.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 05 2020 05:52 GMT
#2096
On November 05 2020 00:40 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2020 00:16 Grackaroni wrote:
There's no reason why Rayn would be mafia though. He helped get rid of TTTTT. We already know Hapa is 3rd party because he called his alternate win condition his 3rd party win-con. Maybe he can win with town as well maybe not.

If it's not Slam then it's going to be Dirkzor. I know I'm not mafia. Dirkzor poked around a few places for the day1 lynch and probably moved his vote to Acro because the townies in the other thread were all pushing for lynching him. There was no indication that Onegu/I were going to come in and vote on Hapa, and I think he had every reason to believe the lynch could still move around with time to somebody else.

Slam/I need to be cleared out anyway and it seems like town has a big enough lead at the moment to do that.

What about yamato. 2 friends rip and he talks carrot. Coincidence?

yamato is confirmed town
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 05 2020 06:23 GMT
#2097
On November 05 2020 10:48 iamperfection wrote:
so just slam and grack go to the database agreed ?

Yes. Slam and Grack go.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 05 2020 08:08 GMT
#2104
Well then you probably have no other option than call me mafia because yamato is literally confirmed town.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 05 2020 08:12 GMT
#2105
On October 31 2020 02:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
People who went to the database:

Alakaslam (no)
Tictock
Koshi (no)
Raynpelikoneet (no)
Yamato77 (yes)
Iamperfection (yes)

Hapahauli (roleblocked, so no)
Grackaroni (no)
Onegu
Dirkzor (no)
Acrofales (confirmed no)
ShoCkeyy (no)

Now use your brain for a moment.
Let me help you a little bit, iamp is also confirmed town.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 05 2020 08:38 GMT
#2107
We know that roleblock happened N0.
From mafia TT went to database, Acrofales couldnt have gone because otherwise he couldnt have used his role.

TT went confirmed because 4 people went and corruption went up. So everyone who said they went actually went.

TT is not a eoleblocker, so because of the corruption going up yamato, iamp (and onegu) cannot be mafia roleblocker either.

Unless you want to claim either 2 mafia teams or that mafia doesnt have a roleblocker...
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 05 2020 08:41 GMT
#2108
So yamato basically killed a dude who would be confirmed town now.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 05 2020 09:06 GMT
#2110
It doesnt look good on me that someone else is town? WTF is that even?

Do you realise that TT would be 100% alive (regardless of Hapa) D2 if i hadnt pushed his lynch D1 AND N1???? Thats literally more townie than ehat snyone in this game has done, aside from being confirmed town.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 05 2020 12:04 GMT
#2122
iamp?
Slam?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 05 2020 12:06 GMT
#2124
Its time to lynch motherfucking liar slam.
table for two on a tv tray
Prev 1 23 24 25 26 27 34 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 18m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft183
SpeCial 20
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 2207
Calm 2122
Artosis 561
ivOry 10
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox417
C9.Mang0240
AZ_Axe39
Other Games
summit1g11418
tarik_tv3636
Day[9].tv576
shahzam327
ViBE191
Maynarde86
Livibee62
Mew2King35
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick448
Counter-Strike
PGL97
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 83
• musti20045 36
• RyuSc2 24
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 28
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Other Games
• imaqtpie1153
• Scarra783
• Day9tv576
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
18m
CranKy Ducklings
9h 18m
Kung Fu Cup
12h 18m
Replay Cast
1d
The PondCast
1d 10h
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
1d 11h
Replay Cast
2 days
Escore
2 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
2 days
OSC
2 days
[ Show More ]
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
3 days
IPSL
3 days
WolFix vs nOmaD
dxtr13 vs Razz
BSL
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
4 days
Ladder Legends
4 days
BSL
4 days
IPSL
4 days
JDConan vs TBD
Aegong vs rasowy
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Bisu vs Ample
Jaedong vs Flash
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Barracks vs Leta
Royal vs Light
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-04-13
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W3
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
WardiTV TLMC #16
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.