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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 14:49 GMT
#137
On October 28 2020 23:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
hmm, i actually read on of Dirkzor's posts wrong, he was not really saying he wants the corruption counter to increase. So ditch that town read.

Why does that change your thinking that much though. Isnt it just that he was gunhoe about it it not being that anti town shouldn't matter much
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 14:53 GMT
#139
Am I retarded or was kitaman in this game?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 14:57 GMT
#144
I am waiting for people to feed my ideas. I'm much more lazy these days.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 14:57 GMT
#145
Acro is probably 3p he always is.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 14:59 GMT
#148
On October 28 2020 23:58 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2020 23:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i think iamp is town though.

also it was not shockeyy who replaced kitaman, who was it????


Onegu.

Please remember this post as my immortal contribution to the town.

Hello world.

What a downgrade lul
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 15:00 GMT
#149
On October 28 2020 23:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2020 23:57 iamperfection wrote:
Acro is probably 3p he always is.

Is there any meat around the bones because i kinda thought of the same :D

I was just joking 2 games I had with him he was 3p. His legendary chrono trigger game and some other one I can't remember
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 15:19 GMT
#153
Did he really just post to post?
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 15:19 GMT
#154
Oh nevermind
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 15:22 GMT
#156
On October 29 2020 00:21 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't really have anything to do tonight, so I could go to the database if we're looking for volunteers.

Do you want to go?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 15:27 GMT
#160
On October 29 2020 00:24 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 00:19 Hapahauli wrote:
Slightly town.

I did like his thoughts about the game mechanic. However, him thinking critically about the game mechanic can mean any number of things:
1) Pro-town contribution from a player who is thinking about how to get information for the town;
2) A third-party who's win-condition is somehow tied to usage of the TL Mafia Database;
3) A mafia member who has enough extra information about the Database to know that his idea is either pro-mafia or ultimately harmless to mafia's objectives.

I lean towards #1, because the information deficit of town is a disadvantage to town in the theme games I have played.

Do you always post this... constructed?

The book on him is he is slower to react as mafia which is why I needled him for not responding quickly but I would say he usually puts a lot of thought in his posts. They just come out slower as mafia and he loses the story eventually.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 15:28 GMT
#162
On October 29 2020 00:26 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 00:22 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:21 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't really have anything to do tonight, so I could go to the database if we're looking for volunteers.

Do you want to go?

I don't really care either way.

From what I gather the corruption levels are probably the most important thing from the database and making sure the right number of people goes there probably makes more of a difference than any of options you get to choose from.

I won't be doing anything though so if other people don't want to go then I'll go.

It just says something happens I don't think it's that important
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 15:28 GMT
#163
On October 29 2020 00:27 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 00:26 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:22 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:21 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't really have anything to do tonight, so I could go to the database if we're looking for volunteers.

Do you want to go?

I don't really care either way.

From what I gather the corruption levels are probably the most important thing from the database and making sure the right number of people goes there probably makes more of a difference than any of options you get to choose from.

I won't be doing anything though so if other people don't want to go then I'll go.

I wonder if the scumteam already figured out their night actions? If that is unlikely, this seems pretty townie.

Why? I don't understand.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 15:31 GMT
#165
On October 29 2020 00:30 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 00:28 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:27 Acrofales wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:26 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:22 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:21 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't really have anything to do tonight, so I could go to the database if we're looking for volunteers.

Do you want to go?

I don't really care either way.

From what I gather the corruption levels are probably the most important thing from the database and making sure the right number of people goes there probably makes more of a difference than any of options you get to choose from.

I won't be doing anything though so if other people don't want to go then I'll go.

I wonder if the scumteam already figured out their night actions? If that is unlikely, this seems pretty townie.

Why? I don't understand.

Scum has to (1) use roles, and (2) carry KP. So unless they already figured out who is carrying KP and what roles they're using, a scum!Grack shouldn't volunteer to go on a town mission.

Oh that's a good point.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 15:33 GMT
#166
On October 29 2020 00:31 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 00:30 Acrofales wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:28 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:27 Acrofales wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:26 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:22 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:21 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't really have anything to do tonight, so I could go to the database if we're looking for volunteers.

Do you want to go?

I don't really care either way.

From what I gather the corruption levels are probably the most important thing from the database and making sure the right number of people goes there probably makes more of a difference than any of options you get to choose from.

I won't be doing anything though so if other people don't want to go then I'll go.

I wonder if the scumteam already figured out their night actions? If that is unlikely, this seems pretty townie.

Why? I don't understand.

Scum has to (1) use roles, and (2) carry KP. So unless they already figured out who is carrying KP and what roles they're using, a scum!Grack shouldn't volunteer to go on a town mission.

Oh that's a good point.

I would doubt extremely that they would have actions figured out yet too
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 15:36 GMT
#169
On October 29 2020 00:34 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 00:24 Acrofales wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:19 Hapahauli wrote:
Slightly town.

I did like his thoughts about the game mechanic. However, him thinking critically about the game mechanic can mean any number of things:
1) Pro-town contribution from a player who is thinking about how to get information for the town;
2) A third-party who's win-condition is somehow tied to usage of the TL Mafia Database;
3) A mafia member who has enough extra information about the Database to know that his idea is either pro-mafia or ultimately harmless to mafia's objectives.

I lean towards #1, because the information deficit of town is a disadvantage to town in the theme games I have played.

Do you always post this... constructed?


I try to present my reads in a very constructed format.

That all being said, I'm having a bit of a hard time thinking about how I want to approach this game, because my role has two win conditions. One is that I can win with town, and the other is... a bit strange, but potentially pro-town. I may choose to reveal more as I learn more about the setup.

Lol your basically saying your a survivor
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 15:36 GMT
#170
On October 29 2020 00:36 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 00:33 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:31 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:30 Acrofales wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:28 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:27 Acrofales wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:26 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:22 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:21 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't really have anything to do tonight, so I could go to the database if we're looking for volunteers.

Do you want to go?

I don't really care either way.

From what I gather the corruption levels are probably the most important thing from the database and making sure the right number of people goes there probably makes more of a difference than any of options you get to choose from.

I won't be doing anything though so if other people don't want to go then I'll go.

I wonder if the scumteam already figured out their night actions? If that is unlikely, this seems pretty townie.

Why? I don't understand.

Scum has to (1) use roles, and (2) carry KP. So unless they already figured out who is carrying KP and what roles they're using, a scum!Grack shouldn't volunteer to go on a town mission.

Oh that's a good point.

I would doubt extremely that they would have actions figured out yet too

Lemme check the QT. Oh wait.


I mean it's likely that not everyone has even read their role pm yet that was my thinking
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 15:42 GMT
#172
On October 29 2020 00:39 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 00:34 Hapahauli wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:24 Acrofales wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:19 Hapahauli wrote:
Slightly town.

I did like his thoughts about the game mechanic. However, him thinking critically about the game mechanic can mean any number of things:
1) Pro-town contribution from a player who is thinking about how to get information for the town;
2) A third-party who's win-condition is somehow tied to usage of the TL Mafia Database;
3) A mafia member who has enough extra information about the Database to know that his idea is either pro-mafia or ultimately harmless to mafia's objectives.

I lean towards #1, because the information deficit of town is a disadvantage to town in the theme games I have played.

Do you always post this... constructed?


I try to present my reads in a very constructed format.

That all being said, I'm having a bit of a hard time thinking about how I want to approach this game, because my role has two win conditions. One is that I can win with town, and the other is... a bit strange, but potentially pro-town. I may choose to reveal more as I learn more about the setup.

I hate survivor claims. But yeah, feel free to afk all game. Zzzzz.

What no we force him to win with town I will make him
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 15:55 GMT
#177
On October 29 2020 00:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 00:30 Acrofales wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:28 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:27 Acrofales wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:26 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:22 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:21 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't really have anything to do tonight, so I could go to the database if we're looking for volunteers.

Do you want to go?

I don't really care either way.

From what I gather the corruption levels are probably the most important thing from the database and making sure the right number of people goes there probably makes more of a difference than any of options you get to choose from.

I won't be doing anything though so if other people don't want to go then I'll go.

I wonder if the scumteam already figured out their night actions? If that is unlikely, this seems pretty townie.

Why? I don't understand.

Scum has to (1) use roles, and (2) carry KP. So unless they already figured out who is carrying KP and what roles they're using, a scum!Grack shouldn't volunteer to go on a town mission.

I dont understand who decided this is a "town mission"?

He's saying he wouldn't volunteer to do an action as he might have to carry kp
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 15:55 GMT
#178
On October 29 2020 00:55 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 00:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:30 Acrofales wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:28 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:27 Acrofales wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:26 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:22 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:21 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't really have anything to do tonight, so I could go to the database if we're looking for volunteers.

Do you want to go?

I don't really care either way.

From what I gather the corruption levels are probably the most important thing from the database and making sure the right number of people goes there probably makes more of a difference than any of options you get to choose from.

I won't be doing anything though so if other people don't want to go then I'll go.

I wonder if the scumteam already figured out their night actions? If that is unlikely, this seems pretty townie.

Why? I don't understand.

Scum has to (1) use roles, and (2) carry KP. So unless they already figured out who is carrying KP and what roles they're using, a scum!Grack shouldn't volunteer to go on a town mission.

I dont understand who decided this is a "town mission"?

He's saying he wouldn't volunteer to do an action as he might have to carry kp

At least this early that is
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 15:59 GMT
#183
On October 29 2020 00:57 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 00:49 Acrofales wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:42 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:39 Acrofales wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:34 Hapahauli wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:24 Acrofales wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:19 Hapahauli wrote:
Slightly town.

I did like his thoughts about the game mechanic. However, him thinking critically about the game mechanic can mean any number of things:
1) Pro-town contribution from a player who is thinking about how to get information for the town;
2) A third-party who's win-condition is somehow tied to usage of the TL Mafia Database;
3) A mafia member who has enough extra information about the Database to know that his idea is either pro-mafia or ultimately harmless to mafia's objectives.

I lean towards #1, because the information deficit of town is a disadvantage to town in the theme games I have played.

Do you always post this... constructed?


I try to present my reads in a very constructed format.

That all being said, I'm having a bit of a hard time thinking about how I want to approach this game, because my role has two win conditions. One is that I can win with town, and the other is... a bit strange, but potentially pro-town. I may choose to reveal more as I learn more about the setup.

I hate survivor claims. But yeah, feel free to afk all game. Zzzzz.

What no we force him to win with town I will make him

Okay... lead the way. But color me skeptical that you can force a survivor to do much of anything. I briefly entertained the idea that he's a scummer fake claiming early on to afk all game but it just seems so... lazy. I mean. Maybe? I guess we just don't let him use it as a "get out of lynch free" card.

For starters, @Hapa: you have to visit the TL Database tonight. You don't get to use your Night Actions as I don't trust you.


I wish I could say I was purely a survivor, but my alternate win-con is a good deal more complicated than that. After all, it's a Greymist game.

That all being said, I don't mind visiting the database, but I have a couple of questions:

1) I thought we were playing "resistance" for Database slots.
2) Why do you believe you can force me to do anything, if you freely admit that you can't generally force survivors do to anything?
3) Why do you discount the possibility that my win-con may have something to do with the Database?

Why do you care why he cares ?
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