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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 28 2020 17:44 GMT
#270
On October 29 2020 02:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 02:40 iamperfection wrote:
I'm very confused

i am asking him of any reads at all, because there is 10 pages of content, and i dont personally feel like shockeyy is "analytical" as he claims.


yea 10 pages of noise data.

What is an analytical person?
What is an analytical person? An analytical person wants to gather and consider information at length before making a big decision. Even in small choices, they will tend to look to the numbers or data for guidance, rather than making an off-the-cuff choice.


If you're truly say I'm not analytical, then I don't think you know what it actually meant.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 28 2020 17:47 GMT
#272
On October 29 2020 02:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 02:43 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:36 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i cannot "prove it" i agree. i just dont think it fits.
can you show how analytical you are shockeyy and provide some reads?


Bruh... You ask me this every game even when I'm town. It's literally N0. I need more training data for my models.

But you said something else?


Dude, in order to make an informed decision on my reads, I need more data outside of just N0 and the current posters. You know this, and we literally talk about this every time I'm playing. Yet here you questioning me once again on the same thing.

So you dont want to make any decisions N0? Or what are you saying?


What decision am I going to make on N0? There's nothing I can do on N0. I can give my reads towards the end when everyone has posted, but we've only have like what 66% of people posting? the other 4 are very likely to also be in that mafia list.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 28 2020 17:51 GMT
#274
On October 29 2020 02:40 iamperfection wrote:
I'm very confused


I'm always defending myself in every game, no matter what role I have. Rayn always says I'm mafia since I've started to play with him, I'm quite used to it already.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 28 2020 17:53 GMT
#276
I mean asking for reads this early in the game is like asking to be shot by mafia if you get it correct. I don't want to die N0
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 28 2020 18:35 GMT
#288
On October 29 2020 03:26 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 03:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 29 2020 03:20 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:32 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:31 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:18 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:16 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 28 2020 23:57 Acrofales wrote:
Slam, what gives you any indication scum hasn't posted? That means you have town reads on dirk, rayn, lamp and myself from like... 2 pages. I don't buy it.

That’s fine, my opinion is out there. You may not buy it but I obviously do.

It’s my gut read on people’s posting plus. Sure, it’s early and bold.

I still feel that dirk, rayn, Iamp, and acro are all town. Scum can lurk and plenty of players still havent posted (as far as I have caught up to, which is like page 8)

I don’t like discussing our plans openly however. Why tell scum and any 3P what we are doing?

It seems just silly to think and somewhat disrespectful to acro and Rayns potential mafia play.


meh, I can agree with Slams statement, I've watched mafia literally AFK (including myself) all game and let town destroy itself.

You agree that everyone posting is town?

Which by this point I obv no longer believe. More people have posted since 8

Who is mafia then?

Why is ShoCkeyy both busier than me and capable of more activity?

And hapa duh dude lol.


This is how!

+ Show Spoiler +
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It's called multitasking in a meeting :D
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 28 2020 18:46 GMT
#291
On October 29 2020 03:44 Hapahauli wrote:
Rayn and Iamp get A's.

Acro gets a B.

Grack gets a C+.

Shockey gets an Incomplete.


I'm an incomplete person.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 28 2020 18:50 GMT
#297
On October 29 2020 03:49 Hapahauli wrote:
Yeah yeah whatever. I know you’re town and that’s all I care about for now. Have fun screaming at a wall.


How do you know he's town? The only way you know he's town 100% is if you're mafia :O
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 28 2020 19:09 GMT
#303
On October 29 2020 04:05 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 03:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 29 2020 03:26 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 29 2020 03:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 29 2020 03:20 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:32 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:31 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:18 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:16 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 28 2020 23:57 Acrofales wrote:
Slam, what gives you any indication scum hasn't posted? That means you have town reads on dirk, rayn, lamp and myself from like... 2 pages. I don't buy it.

That’s fine, my opinion is out there. You may not buy it but I obviously do.

It’s my gut read on people’s posting plus. Sure, it’s early and bold.

I still feel that dirk, rayn, Iamp, and acro are all town. Scum can lurk and plenty of players still havent posted (as far as I have caught up to, which is like page 8)

I don’t like discussing our plans openly however. Why tell scum and any 3P what we are doing?

It seems just silly to think and somewhat disrespectful to acro and Rayns potential mafia play.


meh, I can agree with Slams statement, I've watched mafia literally AFK (including myself) all game and let town destroy itself.

You agree that everyone posting is town?

Which by this point I obv no longer believe. More people have posted since 8

Who is mafia then?

Why is ShoCkeyy both busier than me and capable of more activity?

And hapa duh dude lol.

i dont get it.

is someone mafia in your opinion or not?

ShoCkeyy is a likely candidate and Hapa is not town by his own claim


Is this before or after my multitasking post?
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 28 2020 19:26 GMT
#313
Lamp and Hapa confirmed mafia.

On October 29 2020 04:24 Hapahauli wrote:
The fuck are you smoking?


On October 29 2020 04:25 iamperfection wrote:
The fuck you talking about timing of posts?


Rayn posted near 4:20, you should know what he's smoking.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 28 2020 19:39 GMT
#329
So I have one question about the game:

"Other factions may be able to use the database in their own ways."

So is there more than just town/mafia? :D

Btw I commit to checking out the database. I personally think I'm the best person to check it out.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 28 2020 20:01 GMT
#352
On October 29 2020 04:53 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 04:39 ShoCkeyy wrote:
So I have one question about the game:

"Other factions may be able to use the database in their own ways."

So is there more than just town/mafia? :D

Btw I commit to checking out the database. I personally think I'm the best person to check it out.

Why do you think you're a good candidate?


I just am. I have no malintent for our database.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 28 2020 20:07 GMT
#367
On October 29 2020 05:07 iamperfection wrote:
Btw if it's revealed that there is more than one mafia team like in the first game of this kill hapa.


On October 29 2020 04:39 ShoCkeyy wrote:
So I have one question about the game:

"Other factions may be able to use the database in their own ways."

So is there more than just town/mafia? :D

Btw I commit to checking out the database. I personally think I'm the best person to check it out.


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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 28 2020 20:14 GMT
#375
On October 29 2020 05:12 Hapahauli wrote:
I don't understand you both.

You spend all this time talking about the importance of making scumreads, and then you talk about incredibly speculative setup stuff. Why?


I would like to know if I gotta play against two mafia teams or w.e...
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 28 2020 20:26 GMT
#383
On October 29 2020 05:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ah yes, shockeyy too is mafia most likely


[image loading]
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 28 2020 21:24 GMT
#416
On October 29 2020 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2020 20:02 Acrofales wrote:
Ded gaem



Where did he even post this? I don't find it in his filter.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 28 2020 21:25 GMT
#418
On October 29 2020 06:24 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 28 2020 20:02 Acrofales wrote:
Ded gaem



Where did he even post this? I don't find it in his filter.


oh... I'm blind as fuck.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 28 2020 21:28 GMT
#422
On October 29 2020 06:26 yamato77 wrote:
@Shockey

Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 05:37 yamato77 wrote:
On October 29 2020 05:01 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 04:53 yamato77 wrote:
On October 29 2020 04:39 ShoCkeyy wrote:
So I have one question about the game:

"Other factions may be able to use the database in their own ways."

So is there more than just town/mafia? :D

Btw I commit to checking out the database. I personally think I'm the best person to check it out.

Why do you think you're a good candidate?


I just am. I have no malintent for our database.

I wish for you to be more forthcoming about your claim here. What do you intend to do if you do go to the database? Why should we trust you?



Just trust me yo. If you're town, you'll trust me. If I'm mafia then Acro's post here becomes more relevant.

On October 28 2020 23:06 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2020 23:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean mafia, town, who?

Ideally I'd send 3 mafia! (1) they can't use night actions, (2) they are almost certain to survive the night, and (3) even if they lie about their findings, catching a scummer in a lie like that is great info.

So please, if you're mafia, volunteer to go to the TL Mafia Database tonight. It'll be a huge help!

(obviously, volunteering for this duty is *not* a scumtell).

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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 28 2020 21:56 GMT
#451
On October 29 2020 06:42 yamato77 wrote:
Shockey do you know why Rayn thinks you are town?


fuck no, but he's definitely bipolar :D
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 28 2020 23:50 GMT
#469
On October 29 2020 08:26 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 07:39 Hapahauli wrote:
On October 29 2020 07:30 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 29 2020 06:25 Hapahauli wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:16 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 28 2020 23:57 Acrofales wrote:
Slam, what gives you any indication scum hasn't posted? That means you have town reads on dirk, rayn, lamp and myself from like... 2 pages. I don't buy it.

That’s fine, my opinion is out there. You may not buy it but I obviously do.

It’s my gut read on people’s posting plus. Sure, it’s early and bold.

I still feel that dirk, rayn, Iamp, and acro are all town. Scum can lurk and plenty of players still havent posted (as far as I have caught up to, which is like page 8)

I don’t like discussing our plans openly however. Why tell scum and any 3P what we are doing?


On October 29 2020 02:17 Alakaslam wrote:
In other words, I agree with Iamp. Scum hunt not mechanics discussion.


In these two posts, Slam establishes a preference for "scum hunting" rather than talking about the setup. This should mean that his posts should be geared to finding mafia, and his attitude should generally be positive towards any discussion geared toward finding mafia.

The problem is that his subsequent post is the opposite:

On October 29 2020 03:26 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 29 2020 03:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 29 2020 03:20 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:32 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:31 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:18 iamperfection wrote:
[quote]
It seems just silly to think and somewhat disrespectful to acro and Rayns potential mafia play.


meh, I can agree with Slams statement, I've watched mafia literally AFK (including myself) all game and let town destroy itself.

You agree that everyone posting is town?

Which by this point I obv no longer believe. More people have posted since 8

Who is mafia then?

Why is ShoCkeyy both busier than me and capable of more activity?

And hapa duh dude lol.


This post is completely mentally incongruent with his previous attitude. It is basically designed to shut down and brush off substantive discussion, particularly the "duh" portion of the post.

In his first post, he talks about scum hunting.
In his next post, he is explicit that his scum-read on me should be so obvious that is not even worth discussion.

That does not sound town to me.


Had to step out by the time you posted the first instance of this, then caught up.

Hapa do you notice that the comment on ShoCkeyy is a reply to a very specific question by rayn regarding my post pointing out that I think non town have started playing?

If you read it in that light (the truth) you’ll see the error in your logic with this.

Still catching up. Workday almost done


I'm not getting this.

It is true that earlier in the conversation, Rayn asked whether or not you felt non-town started playing. However, you didn't quote that post. You quoted Rayn's post that asked you "who is mafia?"

Do you think I'm mafia or not?

I believe your claim. You’re not town and it’s complicated but you may as well be town.

ShoCkeyy I scumread.


Why do you scumread me? What did I do to make you think I'm mafia yo...
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 29 2020 06:00 GMT
#507
On October 29 2020 13:40 yamato77 wrote:
If I had a gun I would shoot Shockey. His posts read as smug and flippant and that's a general scumtell in my book. I no longer really want to send him because he refuses to be more open about much of anything.


Of course you would, and it still wouldn’t do any good for town.
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